We can at least agree 3 had better bosses than one and 2 right, even though half were pretty shit?
This is a terrible tier list.
Nameless King, Twin Princes, Rotted Greatwood are are top tier. Wolnir, Crystal Sages, Aldritch are good. Champion Gundyr, Pontiff, Dancer are low tier but still decent, everyone else is meh.
>>336069059
Oh, and I agree on better bosses than 2, but idk about 1. It's pretty close. 1 had better boss design, but I guess the fights in 3 are much more fun and fair.
>>336069059
>Nameless King, Twin Princes, Rotted Greatwood are are top tier
>Wolnir, Crystal Sages, Aldritch are good.
>Champion Gundyr, Pontiff, Dancer are low tier but still decent
I haven't read such a backwards, embarrassingly terrible opinion on /v/ in at least 2 days, that's impressive.
>>336068587
Deacons of the deep was the hardest boss.
>>336068587
Even the bad bosses in this game are stillfun
I haven't played DS3 yet but do they actually make you fight Ornstein again?
>>336069508
Gundyr, Pontiff, Dancer - single humanoid, "dodge their thing, attack, repeat", not interesting or creative
Rotted Greatwood, Princes, Nameless King - cool, Zelda-esque gimmicks and interested design not seen before in DaS
Wolnir, Crystal Sages, Aldritch - really cool design, fun to dodge attacks, prioritizing time to strike
It's all opinion senpai. I just couldn't care less about humanoid "big guy with swords" bosses. All I care about is originality. I even liked the Ancient Wyvern and Yhorm, even though they were way too easy. At least they were unique and fun to fight.
>>336068587
Fixed it for you
>>336068587
Shit opinions the thread?
>>336069974
>Aldrich
>top tier
>>336068587
Why is everyone such a fan of Gundir? His moveset is as barebones as it gets, and there's nothing particularly interesting about him.
The only really bad ones were deacons and greatwood.
>Champion Gundyr not in THE CHAMP tier
Heres a better way of looking at it
>DeS
False King
>DaS
O & S, Gwyn without parrying
>DaS2
...
>BB
Gascoigne, Logarius, Gerhman
>DaS3
Champ Gundry, Dancer, Dragon Slayer, Nameless King, Twin Princes, Pontiff, Soul of Cinder, Abyss Watchers
You can dislike DaS3 all you want, but it undeniably has by far the best roster of bosses out of all the base games.
Twin princes need to be bumped up a notch, and armour down.
Nameless king should get his own tier at the bottom.
And yes, it certainly has more bosses that are enjoyable than 1. And since it has some, obviously more than 2 as well.
Why are people basing how good a boss fight is, by how difficult it is?
That's how /v/ actually rates a boss fight? The harder, the better? Even if it's a really boring one?
Then for a lot of people, Bed of Chaos must have been the most top tier fight of all time.
>>336069974
I can agree with this. Better than OP's shit list, and you acknowledge that the Dragon, Yhorm, and Wolnir are still fun.
>>336071064
Bed of chaos wasn't hard you shitter, it was just dumb. It even had fucking checkpoints.
>>336068587
>I only like big dudes with swords: the ranking
Deacons is one of the funnest battles in the game and if you think otherwise you're a fuccboi.
>>336071469
>hitting a lot of the same enemy you've already fought tons of until you can hit a defenseless pope
Yeah, real fun.
Here's a real list. Not basing on fucking difficulty like you faggot rank yours.
>CHAMP GOD TIER
THE CHAMP
>GOD TIER
Nameless King
Soul of Cinder
Twin Princes
>GREAT TIER
Pontiff Sulyvahn
Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Abyss Watchers
Aldrich the Devourer of Gods
>I DON'T CARE IT WAS STILL A GOOD FIGHT
Yhorm the Giant
>GOOD TIER
Dragonslayer Armour
Oceiros the Consumed King
Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Iudex Gundyr
>OK TIER
Old Demon King
Deacons of the Deep
>MEH TIER
Crystal Sages
Wolnir
Ancient Wyvern
Curse-Rotted Greatwood
There, a proper fucking list.
I thought the mechanic of Yhorm was fucking awesome even though the fight itself was extremely easy.
>use a sword that was made for slaying giants to actually slay a giant
I wish they would have integrated more lore based mechanics into the fights themselves.
I really hate Pontiff Sulyvahn for some reason. You just fucking never know when he's going to pull an extra "haha, get punished nerd" attack out of his ass and his second phase is just cancer if he decides to use his sixty billion combo track like a motherfucker attack with his stand out
Yeah that and level design were probably the only things it did better than 2, I feel like I got way more "wow that was some straight bullshit" moments out if this game than I did 2
>>336071751
Yeah I actually really like the fight even with that mechanic.
Problem is people here rate bosses based on difficulty, so, yeah.
>>336071873
This. Abyss watchers is a pretty easy fight but it's fucking great and fun. Pontiff is a pretty hard fight but shit and frustrating.
Best list coming through
>GOD TIER
Soul of Cinder
>GREAT TIER
Pontiff (Would be god tier if he wasn't parryable)
Dancer
Abyss Watchers
DragonSlayer Armour
>Good Tier
Nameless King
Twin Princes
Champ Gundyr
>EVERYTHING ELSE TIER
everything else
Gundyr is the best.
>>336069059
Rotted Greatwood was a total ripoff of a Super Mario Sunshine boss fight.
Oceiros was probably the worst boss in the game since he spends the entire fight just clipping through the walls and rubble. His arena is just way too small for how he moves.
I'm ready for this 'Champion Gundyr is good' meme to end, his fight was bad.
Why do people like Nameless King so much? It wasn't a bad fight or anything but he has a tiny movepool in his second phase and telegraphs his attacks far too much.
>>336072125
Actually I change my mind the Champ is fucking great-tier
>>336072475
Because he's hard.
>>336069578
This nigga here.
Even Deacons was fun as fuck
>>336072576
Not if you were a Pyro build running an estoc. The only boss I ever had to summon for in all the souls games.
>>336068587
All the bosses are fun.
>Top
Nameless King
Twin Princes
Abyss Watchers
>High
Soul of Cinder
Champion
Aldritch
Pontiff
>Mid
Deacons
Dancer
Dragon Slayer
Vordt
Tutorial Gundyr
Tree
>Low
Yhorm
Crystal Mage
>Bottom
Ancient Wyvern
>>336072674
My heart goes out for you. Want to know a secret? I had to summon for the Crystal Sage.
>>336068587
>every boss above low tier is a guy in armor with a sword
what went wrong?
>>336072862Me too.
I was hoping in the last game, bosses that are fuck huge, with weapons x5 the size of the player, aren't parryable with a fucking target shield. Shit makes no sense.
>>336069974
THIS
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>get to pontiff
>don't have enough damage to burst down his stand as soon as he summons it
>have to get in at least two rounds of hits after it's up
>basically just have to pray sully doesn't use his sixtillion hit tracking combo that wrecks you if he has his stand up
Am I just underleveled or should I just resort to parry bitching?
>>336068587
>people calling Wyvern, Deacons and Yhorm bad boss fights
proof that /v/ has no sense of old style adventure.
Stop being such a muh difficulty faggot and take them for what they are; really fuckin fun.
>>336068587
>bad tier
>Yhorm
Nah, he just went down too fast
>Old Demon King
Literally nothing wrong with this battle
>Deacons
I liked this fight for some reason. Apart from webm related
>crystal sage
Much better version of pinwheel, nothing wrong
>wolnir
A bit too gimmicky and unforgiving with the darkness but still a cool fight
>curse-rotted greatwood
The only problem with this guy is the camera when you get close to him since you can't really see if he's starting up an attack that well
>>336070924
>only good bosses are humanoids
Wow no wonder nobody responded to this shit opinion
>>336073401
>Yhorm
totally agree
>Demon King
It's a bit of a disappointment after taking down the wurm, and it could've been harder/faster. Still fine though
>Deacons
I'm guessing when you did Deacons, you had some npc buddies with you?
That normally makes that fight heaps fun because it feels like you and your m8s are just fucking shredding through these fags.
>Sage
Agree
>Wolnir
Agree
>curse-rotted greatwood
this is definitely the worst boss in the game, becuase of the tedious shit up top with his poison ballsacks flying down, the dudes, his hands, fucking poison floor, everything.
I'll openly admit i never had fun with greatwood, because it just didn't feel like a boss in any way. Wolnir felt similar, but not nearly as bad.
>>336073249
>defending Yhorm
It took away everything that made Storm King such a great fight, completely missing the sense of scale and power. 3 has a lot of great fights but that was just shameless fan pandering.
>>336070924
did you not play ds2 or are you memeing? dark lurker, fume knight, alonne, velstadt, and ivory king are all great fights
>>336073858
Darklurker was hands down the best fight in the game. Such a fucking rush.
i really want to fight champ gundyr with his own moveset
he's a badass
>>336073858
The problem with DS2 bosses is they had no impact on their moves. I think they botched the sound design in that game.
>>336073991
Me 2 xD
>>336074014
sure, but the fight itself is still good if the mechanics of the fight are on point
>>336068587
>le gundyr is god tier meme
Seriously, he's not a bad boss but his shit was simple.
>>336069059
>Rotted great wood great
>wolnir good
Wow jesus christ dude. I dont have words
Have you played any other from game?
>>336073705
I did Deacons alone every time, just like every other boss. Shredding through fags alone was fun well, but jumping in with precision and taking one important guy down was also nice.
So did I miss anything?
DS3 feels a bit linear for some reason even though 2 and 1 weren't that different
>>336073858
>Darklurker
nah. boring design, boring fight even with the split
>Fume knight
yeah
>alonne
fuck yeah
>velstadt
I love the concept and design but dude was easy peasy
>ivory king
yeah
>>336073858
I was just talking about the base games you idiot. Also DarkLurker is just okay and velstadt is fucking shit, get better opinions.
>>336073601
>humanoid bosses are inherently bad because I watched Mathewmatosis's video on DaS2 and I think I know what I'm talking about
fuck off
Curse rotted greatwood is the worst fight in the entire series. Fuck that fuck. Fuck it to hell and back.
>>336076227
>all this projecting
Sorry I must've missed the part where I said that humanoid bosses were bad. Would you mind pointing it out to me? Thanks autismo.
Tiers are for fags, here's the bosses I just liked fighting
>Twin Princes, Nameless King, Pontiff Sulyvahn, Soul of Cinder, Dragonslayer Armor, Champion Gundyr, Dancer of the Boreal Valley, Abyss Watchers
Feel like these go without saying, even if some were easy they're just fun to fight when you put movesets, background music, and atmosphere together
>Ancient Wyvern, Deacons of the Deep
I loved running along the castle wall to reach the vantage point, like I was the knight in a fairy tale slaying a dragon. Similarly cutting through the Deacons was satisfying to me. Very subjective.
>Aldrich, Devourer of Gods
Between his magic missiles, rain of arrows, and his own movement this appealed to the bullet hell fan in me.
>Oceiros, the Consumed King
Atmospheric as fuck, great dialogue and music but admittedly pretty underwhelming gameplay wise.
The others were mostly alright but fuck Greatwood. This, as a base game, has the most boss fights I enjoyed out of any of them including Bloodborne.
>>336078285
>>Oceiros, the Consumed King
>Atmospheric as fuck, great dialogue and music but admittedly pretty underwhelming gameplay wise.
Pretty much this. He wasn't even a fun fight, but the presentation was great.
>>336068587
Wolnir, demon king, sage, and yhorm were all better boss fights than aldrich. Aldrich is piss easy and stupid.
>>336078285
>sulyvahn's moveset
Meh, just a bunch of 180 degree slashes everywhere with a stab here and there. Nothing original about it apart from the way he sometimes just never stops
>sulyvahn's background music
Don't even remember it
>sulyvahn's atmosphere
He was standing around in church. That was all
Who here was waiting for the CHAMP to just throw away his halberd and just melee you to death?
>>336078285
I loved his shoulder tackle and his donkey kick.
>>336078494
It reminded me a lot of Micolash but while Micolash was better presentation wise, Oceiros was definitely a better fight. Having to deal with that call beyond spam is bullshit
>>336078494
I died several times to him because his hitbox was fucking retarded and my weapon wouldn't fucking connect to him, then he'd suddenly do that zoom forward thing and I'd get killed. Cool atmosphere and lore, but shit execution because of how wonky he is.
>>336073858
>sir alonne
I never got why he is considered to be so good. sure he is good technically, and is presented very well, but he suffers from coming right after fume knight, who, is essentially a harder version of him.
>>336071873
It's a cheap callback to Demons Souls. The most hyped boss in the game and he gets to be nothing more than a cheap gimmick boss.
>>336072393
You tried to heal, didn't you?
Lets argu about something else.
What Boss(s) has the best theme?
>>336078605
I like that he's basically a stand user I guess. Dunno how else to explain it, I enjoyed him mechanically.
>>336078938
Deacons
>>336078938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2OCRmxVAY
Either this or Abyss Watchers for me.
>>336078853
Yeah and the storm ruler was bs
>used to fell Giants
>can do the super move outside the boss arena
>try it on giants outside pontiff
>50 damage
Fucking retarded
>>336078938
Gundyr.
>>336078605
>He was standing around in church. That was all
There was more to it than just that. Remember how it starts out with the slow approach with the music just being the vocals? Then theres the transition to phase 2 when the music picks up and shit gets real. That was probably my favorite moment in the entire game. It still gives me chills even on subsequent playthroughs.
>>336078938
Soul of Cinder and Abyss Watcher theme was my favorite
>>336079731
Oceiros has a magnificent theme, especially for phase 2.
>dat transition
>>336068587
So I just beat Nameless King solo today and I don't think I will ever fight him again. That was not fun, that was stressful. That was the biggest load of horse cockle I have ever encountered in one of these games.
>>336080446
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, Anon, even if it's a shit one.
>>336080446
I felt this way my first time fighting him, but once you get used to his moveset he's on par with if not easier than soul of cinder.
>>336073840
the scale and power was there. how many times have you seen shit in movies where they find the legendary item that fucks up the dude?
On a further note, if you really wanted Last Giant v2.0, then go fuck yourself.
>>336078938
>God Tier
Yhorm, Pontiff, Soul of Cinder, Oceiros, Dancer
>great tier
Iudex, Dragonslayer, Abyss watchers, Nameless King
>good tier
the rest
>Roll Melee character
>every boss fight is me standing on edge, needing to memories enemy patterns and Boss moves
>only ever manage to beat a boss by entering a state of zen and inner peace, where every move becomes easily read, perfect dodging, and poking at right times
>Roll Pyro next
>buy Chaos Fire Ball
>literally everything becomes a joke
>already at NG+4
This is perfectly fine.
>Deacons not in their own special FUN tier at the very top
Easily the funnest boss out of the entire series. Nothing better than going full Guts with any large weapon with a sweeping R2 attack
>>336069974
>Muh opinons
op's was better
>>336078938
Aldritch's theme is PERFECT
vordt's is really good too
>cheese my first few playthrough with pyro and summons
>make a new character, strict rule of no summons, no magic
>stick with zweihander and actually play the game as it should be
Anyone else? Probably the most satisfied I've been with a game in a long time.
ohhhh my goooodd
>>336071646
>Not basing on fucking difficulty like you faggot rank yours.
I like you
>>336069607
Not really. Entirely different moveset and the shield being the most dangerous part is sort of unique. Otherwise a pretty average fight, nothing special but it's not terrible.
>>336068587
LE EPIN JOHN CENA CHAMP IS AWESOME MEME XD
Fuck off
>>336075776
Connect Profaned capital with Lothric Castle.
>>336084905
you seem upset
>>336068587
>ancient wyvern and Yhorm in bad tier
I hate tryhards "fan" who put muh difficulty over atmosphere and awesomeness.
Ancient wyvern and yhorm felt good to play against. Eat shit
why do people like Dragonslayer Armour? He just seems like a easy jabroni faggot
I beat Champion on my first try, no help.
It was intense, but I'm also a shitter that died to bosses like Cinder, Pontiff, and Princes 30 times.
