Don't forget about me assholes.
I'm still releasing this year
>>336035829
everyone that cared about paper mario already killed themselves.
>There are actually people who exist, and have some what functional brains that are excited for this shit
>>336035829
Literally no one cares unless it had a complete overhaul
>>336035829
Nobody is gonna buy this game.
>>336035829
>>336035829
It's the Wii U's must-buy holiday title!
Are you? Nintendo hasn't made a peep about this since that reveal trailer, which they never even released online.
They either took it back to retool, or are waiting for people to forget.
>>336035829
>How do you want your videogame series, pham?
>>336037494
>They either took it back to retool, or are waiting for people to forget.
That's what people said about FedForce.
Are you ready for another 5 minutes video explaining how the game is great and you just don't get it?
>>336035829
Could be cool, we'll have to see more.
>>336037774
Fed Force looked fun, and most of the hate came from people that literally though Metroid was never getting another game and that Fed Force was a soccer game. Like you.
Just rip the visuals off of the disk and make your own paper mario? That would be a quick project. Oh wait. It's just going to be generic shy guys, generic goombas, generic koopas, nothing fun. RIP the entire IP
>>336037774
Yes. Will I like it? No. But I fully expect it.
Is anyone going to buy this? After Sticker Star I just can't
>>336037774
See, Federation Force negative reception isn't because it's some watered down Prime Hunters or something.
It's simply because it's the first thing we get since Blunder M. Just some crappy DSiware spin-off
>>336038175
Are you from the future?
The chances of CS being even decent are astronomically small. The only way it could be would be the combat becoming something like MMBN or Chain of Memories but that's highly unlikely. They'll probably stick with the bullshit combat centered around consumable items.
The next South Park game is going to be a better Paper Mario.
>>336037603
>It's like romance
>>336037943
>Fed Force looked fun
No it didn't.
>and most of the hate came from people that literally though Metroid was never getting another game and that Fed Force was a soccer game. Like you.
I'm fully aware of what the game is.
Here's your (You) anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwmG_0IddSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFKqJ_-Epoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZObXHeTwfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_cuimF47qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9SgQB3Oo6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_l2uomPPxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JBbcaLsyZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1z5dessZCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvIIl-8A6Gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugiujb1vGiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h-_Vxvjmjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTpTX_3I06o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONHh0JAem8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsv4kCovLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p93JrIkSC0
Never forget.
I gotta admit, the graphics look really nice
>>336038601
Nintendo doesnt care.
>>336037494
>which they never even released online.
They also never released a Planet Robobot trailer. I bet they're real ashamed of that too huh? They do this for every fucking Direct, some games just don't get standalone trailers.
>>336037943
it doesnt, I could give less shits about metroid as a series and it ironically looks worse than the Halo rip off on iPhone NOVA, look up either of the 3 titles in this series and they look and play better than this shit
https://youtu.be/Fzzm_O815Xo
four outlins
four
>>336038853
You'd think they would have, what with this being pretty much all the WiiU has left.
Which is so damn sad.
>ACTION
>>336038741
They cared enough not to post the trailer on their channel.
>>336038853
Robobot is getting constant trailer anticipating its release, Metroid Trash and Paper Sticker Star havent gotten shit
>>336038424
>I became one with Toad (laughs)!
>well it looks like nobody wants paper mario, starfox, metroid, or any atlus crossovers in the future due to poor sales. Let's just cancel those series
>also nobody bought fast racing neo, let's kill Fzero as well
>>336035829
paper mario is dead, cause IS keeps shitting the bed
>>336039060
Go look at NoA's youtube, there's no Robobot trailer at all. There is however a Fed Force trailer.
>>336039256
>Wants to make Tingle, Sticker Star-eque Paper Mario, and Chibi Federation Force popular in the West
>Actually thinks he can pull it off
Expect to see him damage controlling this E3
>>336038874
I'm not sure what makes you think that looks more fun than Federation Force, but I'm sorry for your loss.
>>336039259
Thats Capcom.
Nintendo just throws shit at the wall and sees what sticks, fans be damned.
>>336039390
I don't think they're even aware of the hate for Color Trash.
>>336039539
Well he seems to already know what the game is like in whole based on a 2 minute section of early gameplay snippets and running about. He must be from the future if he knows. Nobody could be so presumptuous.
DUDE TOADS LMAO
>>336037774
>I WORK ON CUHRU SPRASH FOR SEVEN YEARS. YOU RIKE GAME, I PROMISE.
>>336035829
>liked Sticker Star
>will enjoy this too while you retards cry over MUH OPEN WORLD!!! MUH COMPANIONS ;(((
>>336039842
Whats it like to have shit taste?
>>336039663
Fuck off Tanabe.
>>336039615
They're probably not even aware of Sticker Star's reception.
>>336040001
I think that Japan liked it, that's all they care about.
>>336040001
Only that it was a huge seller.
Because so many people bought it not knowing what they were in for. Those people will NOT be back, but Nintendo thinks they will.
>>336039904
Why dont you ask your mother, kid?
>>336035829
Nobody cares. Wii U has no more releases. That shitty game doesn't count.
I know how much you don't like the way Mario games are going by story but here is the thing. I want to make people happy and when I see NSMB skyrocketing in sales I know many people are being happy playing the game. I want those people to stay happy so I make sure the games cater to them so that they won't be distracted by much. People play Mario games not expecting a complex story, they just want funny cartoon characters saving the Princess and world from the cartoonishly scary Bowser. Happiness is a top priority that can be weighed down when the game pauses to introduce some character that wasn't needed or to stop because the plot demands it. This isn't what people who play Mario games want, they just want fun. After all the game is fine without a huge narrative or a new set of cast members, so do we even need it? After all adding all the text and characters will only delay the games release with all the translating and planning. Go read a book or watch a movie because Mario games are not meant for you. Now that's out of the way, the reason why we toning down character variety and story is quite simple. It saves time since we can just re use a character design over and over again, kids won't mind Toads look near identical in main games anyways. Onto dialogue, localization takes time so by toning down the script the game can come out earlier for all to enjoy. Lastly, why do you want another game with a similar battle system as the first two Paper Mario games? Do you really want a rehash and make Paper Mario near identical to other RPGs or do you want a fresh and new experience? Tanabe is just experimenting with the idea of Paper Mario which is not wrong. As far as I know Super Paper Mario and TTYD didn't even feel like real Mario games.
>>336037943
It still doesn't look fun. Metroid or not. It's slow as fuck.
You know, the combat isn't what killed SS for me. It was the lack of personality in the game. There were no towns, just levels that you had to go through like a traditional Mario. It didn't feel like I was in a world that was alive
>>336040198
Sick burn brah
>>336039002
There was no trailer. Why do you people keep acting like this thing that never existed was only not posted because of you? Is it so you can pat yourselves on the back?
Just don't act all pissy like you did with Fed Force when it resurfaces and it turns out all of your "WE DID IT GUYS" was for nothing.
>>336040504
Thx m8, I worked really hard on it.
>>336040536
>There was no trailer
Did you not watch the direct?
>>336040498
>But personally, the more restrictions there were, the more excited I got. They may look the same, but we put in some elements in which their personalities are slightly different, so you can tell the difference and you think, "Hey! Are you that Toad from back then?" Toward the end of development, I could feel that I became one with Toad! (laughs)
>You can't forget them, like when they have a bad personality, even though their faces are the same.
>In addition to red, there are blue and green Toads. However, we held all but the red one in reserve, so we had to think carefully over when to use them. When we decided to put the ranger27 in the forest, there was a weird vibe, like, "Green Toad…you're up!" (laughs)
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/papermario/0/2
>>336040636
There wasn't a separate trailer for it like all the other reveals. It was an announcement that had some gameplay bits played over it.
>>336039663
If you can't already tell that this game is Sticker Star 2, you're retarded.
You can tell a piece of shit is a piece of shit from a 2 minute video.
Paper Mario fans are hardcore, man. Like, if I encountered one in the dead of night in a dark side street, I would fear for my life
>>336040832
I like how there were a few unique toads, but if this picture included them it wouldn't be cherry picked enough to catch the eye.
>>336038601
>tfw mine is never between those
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWYodEhRao4
>>336040846
I saw finite resources that had to be managed for attacking and taking actions in battle. I saw non-standard Mario locations such as Italian-style villas and a biggass train. I saw, with only about a minute of video on the overworld, more than just red toads.
So please, prove to me this is just Sticker Star again.
>>336037774
You think you don't want it, but you do
>>336041084
Why would you proudly post than on 4chan? This is seom reddit-tier shit my man.
>>336041295
4chan is reddit
>>336041173
>I saw finite resources that had to be managed for attacking and taking actions in battle.
Aren't you describing SS combat here
>>336041084
>sign my petition
>not even 400
Jesus, you anti-Nintendo boys are sad.
>>336041173
>I saw finite resources that had to be managed for attacking and taking actions in battle
So just like Sticker Star?
>>336035829
>Don't forget about me assholes.
I'm trying to.
>>336041437
I wasn't aware Sticker Star had points that needed to be used to use attacks. Tell me more.
>>336041618
Finite resources describes both points and stickers
>>336041084
post the full picture of goombella
>>336040001
They're aware it sold like gangbusters which is the only thing they needed to know.
Sticker Star isn't even the game that killed the franchise. SS was just a result of them taking Club Nintendo surveys for Super PM seriously.
Additioonally the director said he had wanted to get rid of XP and levels for quite a while. He came to the conclusion that gathering stronger stickers was better than character growth
>>336041852
It didn't sell gangbusters, it sold barely more than TTYD on a platform with 3 times the userbase of the GC.
>>336037774
>That's what people said about FedForce.
To be fair, this is IS, not EAD/Nintendo proper. The first trailer for Sticker Star had partners (although they were generic enemies) and yet they were completely removed in the final game. It's not rare for them to revamp games even after their first showing.
>>336042192
2 million in sales is "gangbusters" for modern Nintendo.
>>336042192
That's all they need sadly
Which is why we still get absolute garbage Artoon Yoshi titles over another Super Princess Peach
>>336037943
>most of the hate came from people that literally though Metroid was never getting another game
I love this meme
>>336041295
Pretty sure reddit gets triggeredd with any Hatred related shit.
>>336041840
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1803233#search=goomba
Just because you asked nicely.
>>336039842
Worst b8 in existance
>>336042416
YNI didn't sell well did it?
>>336039842
>MUH open world
I don't get it though
Sticker Star WAS open world
Having a map doesn't make the level any less open, you can have large towns and areas within the levels
>>336042792
funny enough; that game sucked aswell
>>336042416
Thank fuck they had Good Feel do Woolly World. Better then both Artoon games significantly.
>>336042841
It's sold well enough to be part of their greatest hits
>>336042792
Funny how all the creativity disappeared from M&L too the moment he joined.
>>336042893
oh no you don't motherfucker. Shitpost about your favourite series all you want, but you better stay away from Mario and Luigi
>>336043006
>YNI: 1.3m
>WW: 1.2m
>>336043129
but the latest M&L one was pretty bad, compared to he first 2 and BiS
>>336043264
>WiiU vs 3DS
It did well enough. The Artoon game has also been out for 2 years more.
>>336043289
PiT wasn't very good, and DT was better than BIS.
I agree that PJ sucked hard.
>>336040989
Including the unique toads would be cherry picking dumbass.
There were barely any
>>336043520
>DT was better than BIS
Hello, wrong opinion.
>>336043129
It's not sticker star levels of quality drops, but M&L has been getting duller and duller
>>336043613
Nah, I'm right.
>>336035829
I know, I can't wait.
I personally have enjoyed playing all the Paper Mario games, including Sticker Star. It was different but still fun and amusing. The focus was more on gameplay and puzzles which probably isn't your cup of tea but that doesn't mean it's garbage.
You can probably buy a copy for around $15-$20 if you look around. I'd say give it a fair try. Also, Yoshi's New Island is $20 as well, also not a bad deal.
>>336043815
You're about as right as a left hand, my man.
>>336043520
>PiT wasnt very good
the only gripe is the item system, which seems to be the norm now
>DT was better than BiS
I bet you are also the kind of person who dislikes pre-xbox360 games, needs auto-save feature for every minute, demands an achievement for just starting up a game and smokes pot while playing Call of Duty.
>>336039663
Come on anon. Is it so hard to believe that I found Sticker Star to be less then what I expected for a Paper Mario game? Is it crazy to use that disappointment to lower my expectations for the next game?
>>336043930
>better combat
>better level design
>better setting
>better OST
>better 2D sections
>better giant battles
>more content
>no mandatory stylo minigames every 20 minutes
BIS wasn't really that great, the only problems with DT are the tutorials and the gyro, is a far better game.
>>336044089
>the only gripe is the item system, which seems to be the norm now
And the lack of a proper connected overworld
And the extreme linearity and lack of side content
And the tedious babies mechanics
And the poor writing
And the terrible Bowser fight
I bet you are also the kind of person who dislikes pre-xbox360 games, needs auto-save feature for every minute, demands an achievement for just starting up a game and smokes pot while playing Call of Duty.
Trying way too hard my boy.
>>336042593
thanks anon
>>336035829
It's going to flop and Nintendo will assume everyone hates Paper Mario and never make another one.
>>336044703
>Better combat
>better level design
>better ost
>>336035829
LOL, nobody cares about this shit.Jk, I'm probably gonna buy it.
>>336044762
I see this sort of reasoning all the time but has Nintendo ever truly done something like this, or is it just pointless fearmongering?
>>336045042
Several times
Just look at Metroid
>>336045042
Star Fox was dead for a solid decade.
Also, F Zero.
>>336045042
There hasn't been a F-Zero game in over 10 years.
>>336045042
Warioland
I understand that SS sold a lot, but is Nintendo completely tone deaf? People obviously bought it because they thought it would be good and be the Paper Mario they've played on N64 and GCN since literally everybody shat on the game. The sales were no indication that the game was good.
I hope they at least notice that nobody was happy with Color Splash. Maybe they'll delay it for NX so they can make it into a real RPG.
>>336045453
>Maybe they'll delay it for NX so they can make it into a real RPG
Fat chance.
>>336044832
Yes?
The Bowser combat in BIS is barebones and super easy, it doesn't even compare to all the options of the dream battles of DT, where you can move around, face different directions with the hammer, and battle big hordes of enemies.
The standard bros combat is far better in DT too, more challenging and more creative enemy patterns. Only PJ has better combat.
The level design in BIS is super lazy, they often didn't even bother scattering around the 10 attack pieces and just gave you 5 at a time.
And bacause of Bowser's lack of mobility the overworld is extremely streamlined and simple.
And I can't even imagine how anyone can think BIS had a better OST than DT.
>>336045453
Was it well received in Japan? I know pretty much every PM fan in the west absolutely loaths Sticker Star, but Nintendo basically only cares about the Japan demographic.
Should Miyamoto have died? Because this shit is what he gave us.
>>336045297
Metroid is another case where I see people say this all the time even though it seems wholly inappropriate
>>336045402
I don't even know what you're getting at here since the Wario Land games all sold fairly well. I think it died for totally unrelated reasons.
>>336045327
>>336045374
Well, Nintendo did try (and failed) to bring F-Zero back like, 4 years ago or so, but I guess it counts
>>336045865
If Nintendo survives it will be much better off with the old fuck dying out. Unless of course his successor is a little him.
>>336045865
>his latest idea that they spent a whole time slot at E3 on ended up as a mini game bundled with a shitty Star Fox
>his other shit idea is likely to see a similar fate
>Nintendo still kisses his ass
>the crushing feeling of despair and hopelessness that is being a Nintendo fan now
>Federation Force
>another Sticker Star Paper Mario instead of a fun RPG like the first two games
>Star Fox Zero being a mixed bag because of controls and selling like shit killing the series for good
>still no new F-Zero
>all this focus on fucking amiibo and not games
>Zelda going through another TP scenario releasing on NX
>WiiU already dead
I have no sympathy for them, they did this bullshit to themselves
>>336046194
Project Guard wasn't even expanded upon at all in Star Fox Guard. Like, why didn't he try to make it more interesting? Is he out of ideas? That robot game looked really unpolished and uninspired, too.
>>336045021
I'd say you are part of the problem, but considering Nintendo's sales lately there probably aren't enough people like you left to actually matter in the end.
>>336037943
Kill yourself my man
>>336038874
Nova 3 looks better here then on my phone.
>there are more bad paper Mario games than good
>>336045940
It's exactly what happened with Metroid. Other M bombed and now the series is in a limbo and will be for god knows how long-
And Wario Land died because Nintendo started pushing NSMB as the flagship 2D platforming series, especially on handhelds.
>>336046334
>going through long game drought
>think that it'll be over soon by E3
>two E3s in a row without games we don't already know about
>that moment you realize there drought has only started
Is there a word to describe the debilitating want for a single shred of hope without the ability to actually find one?
>>336045453
Sticker Star is a much easier product to churn out than TTYD. It's a situation similar to the production of NSMB games, so it stands to reason they would go the quickest, cheapest route possible to make the most money.
Which explains how the manage to have two paper mario games in one generation and retool mario and luigi dream team into paper jam.
It's game development equivalent to copypasta post on /v/.
>>336046883
Super was good.
>>336046883
>1, TTYD, and super in good
>sticker star, in bad
>1 not released
If you're not counting the M&L crossover, it's 3-1 so far.
>>336047357
>Super was good.
>>336046967
I'd honestly pin it more on Retro stepping away from the series. Not that I believe they should have been stuck to the series forever, but I think they were the main thing keeping it afloat during that era.
>>336047539
It wasn't the Paper Mario I wanted, but it was still a good game with the best story in all of PM. At least the gameplay was solid and worked and the game design wasn't intrinsically flawed like Sticker Star. It even had that endearing quirkiness that SS so desperately lacked.
I'm not saying it's at the same caliber as TTYD, but it was still fun.
>>336047704
Retro probably would have left the series anyway, but Sakamoto moving to Tomodachi shovelware and letting Metroid to rot? That's 100% on Other M.
>>336047704
Are you implying Retro actually had a say in how long they could stick with metroid?
Retro might be able to offer suggestions in what to develop but Nintendo probably has the final say.
>>336039842
>>336048019
Are you saying that Nintendo forced them to leave the series?
>>336047928
>it was still a good game with the best story in all of PM
See >>336047539 again. It wasn't the worst story or game, but it was far from the best and the at best it was below average a game.
>>336042893
>>336043101
Nice meme
Paper Jam's entire focus was to be set in the Mario Universe and give existing charaters development
>>336048218
Do you think Nintendo gave them and option in what to make, between Prime 4 (very expensive, mediocre sales) or DKCR 2 (not that expensive, previous game alone ousold the entire Prime trilogy)?
>>336048603
>DKCR 2
I don't know why you immediately jumped to that when I'm talking about when they actually left Prime, at which point they had never even made a platformer before.
>>336037943
FF looks like shit, and the reason everyone hates the game is because after getting a top-down Zelda, 2D Mario, Kirby, DK, and Yoshi, we expected to see a 2D Metroid announced not another FPS squeezed on a handheld. They could've put Federation Force on the Wii U instead of making the same mistake they made with Hunters.
>>336048218
Yes, I'm saying that because that's kind of how japanese game development works. New employees/ teams are hired to work on a particular game or series, if it does well (or they do their particular job well) they get asked to either work on more or something more high profile.
Metroid while critically acclaimed by the west is overall more low profile compared to donkey kong and mario kart which Retro proceeded to work on after the prime games success.
Retro isn't Gamefreak, they can't work on metroid forever since it isn't their IP.
>>336039842
>>336049129
>They could've put Federation Force on the Wii U
Never would've happened. By the point this game was coming together, Nintendo had already decided they wanted nothing to do with the Wii U. Besides, I have to imagine that if Tanabe were given a full scale console game to develop, he probably would have just made Prime 4.
I won't be buying it. First Paper Mario game I'm missing out on, so they won't have my sale. You sticker star apologists better buy multiple copies.
Can somebody give me a tldr on why Sticker star is so shit? I haven't played that one. The Wii Paper Mario was awful tho, that one I played
>>336049695
I would've been fine with that while EPD could've work on Metroid: Dread for the 3DS (I still hope this is announced at e3 this year or at some Direct).
>>336050407
>(I still hope this is announced at e3 this year or at some Direct).
lol
>>336050374
It's the NSMB of the mario rpgs, where even it's main mechanic is superficial to game progression.
>>336050374
>Everything got the NSMB treatment: No new characters, no unique world themes, every area is straightforward with an end goal, there's a world map like 2D Mario has, plot is simply that Bowser kidnapped Peache with no twists or extras, Bowser has no dialogue
>There are no partners, badges, experience points, or levels. Your attacks are all one use items. This adds up to all battles being a net loss since all you get out of them is money to buy attack items, which are spent in battle, so the ideal strategy is to never battle
Those are the main things.
>>336050985
>>336050952
I guess it's basically confirmed that Color splash will be equally shitty
>>336039842
>liked sticker star
anon if you were actually this braindead you wouldn't be able to type on a keyboard
>>336049810
I bought a 3DS for what would become Sticker Star. I'm now a Monster Hunter fan and I really hate Kid Icarus.
>>336037943
>Fed Force looked fun
Explain
>>336051673
I bought a 3DS at launch for Megaman Legends 3 and for what would become Sticker Star. I know your pain.
>>336045940
>Well, Nintendo did try (and failed) to bring F-Zero back like, 4 years ago or so
What
>>336052126
Nintendo reached out to Criterion to develop an F-Zero game to be a launch, or near launch, title for the Wii U. They turned it down because they were busy with another game.
>>336051673
>I really hate Kid Icarus
Fag.
>>336051398
Aesthetically it will be better than Sticker Star but expect nothing else from it anon.
>>336052539
Sorry, I didn't like it. The stand is still in my bathroom.
Paper Mario died with SPM. RIP.
>>336052773
You're not supposed to use the stand.
>>336048019
Yes they did, in 2013 they were given a chose between Metroid or DK, they chose the latter, now I'm hearing that they're working on a new IP. Sounds like they don't want to come back to Metroid (which I'm fine with).
>>336052874
Then why package the fucking thing with the game? Even then, Hackurai was being Hackurai. The game's controls were still ass, and no amount of muh content and muh quirky dialogue will fix the game's major flaw.
>>336053001
No idea what Retro wants but I'm pretty sure Miyamoto wants them back on Metroid.
>>336043930
What if he's standing across from you. Your left hand would be right relative to hime
>>336052874
>manufacturer a stand that is suppose to help you
>don't use the stand
>>336053198
Probably for little kids so weak they can't even hold a 3DS.
The controls are perfect, gid gud.
>>336037060
This.
/thread
Is it that hard for them to just make a paper Wario and Waluigi?
>>336037943
>Fed Force was a soccer game. Like you.
Anon is a soccer game?
>>336053305
Why would they let gaijin work on Metroid again when Other M was such an obvious success?
>>336053650
They don't care about them anymore. Not since the last Wario Land.
>>336053650
They're both party game filler, just like Daisy.
>>336053845
>nintenfags will defend this
Oh my god fuck this game. After I was dumb enough to belive that Sticker Star could be anything but a steaming pile of shit I actually played it.
And it was basicly a below average short shallow indie game without any in depth or interesting game mecanuic to make it interesting.
And now they just make the next effortless garbage that they are hiding behind a beloved series and hope to shift some more of that underpowerd pices fo shit they call handheld.
I'm not even joking I hope this game fails so hard they fire the guys who made it.
It amazes me. It really does. Why is it that Nintendo as of late just wont stop fucking up? I mean after a streak of fucking up over 100 times you'd think they would just take the time to process why they fucked up.
Seriously, how? How is it that they can't take the fucking hint? Sticker Star sucked balls, fans of Paper Mario said it sucked MAJOR balls. But they look at it as if "Dang, maybe our approach was wrong? I know! Let's try putting a gimmick!" Like, what the fuck? Are you serious? Its like looking at your prodigy son slowly spiral down into a fucking retard. And then he wonders if maybe switching his socks will make him smarter again.
I don't know what the fuck Nintendo is thinking anymore. Like seriously, tomorrow they might just release a Nintendo brand flashlight that makes "Wahoo!" and fucking mario coin sounds.
>>336053821
You know even Japan hated Other M, right?
>>336054242
Out of touch, arrogant, etc.
Same with NoA. Blame the fans for blindly supporting them in spite of all the shitty choices they made.
>>336054242
Nintendo knows the WII U has failed because its a pice of shit and have given up on it.
So they have some interns put together some shovelware with famous names in the title to trick one or two retards into still buying one.
They are probably already working on Lauch titles for the NX, hell they even pushed the next zelda game on there.
All in all the WII U had maybe 3 titles worth buying and they were all sequels.
>>336054759
The Wii U isn't even getting its own Zelda. What a fucking disaster.
I don't blame them, though. I'd want to get rid of that piece of shit console ASAP too.
>>336045830
Sold a lot in Japan due to being a handheld game with Mario in the title but the reaction is the same as in the West - non-fans like it, fans are pissed about it.
Color Splash got a terrible reaction too.
>>336051673
>I bought a 3DS for what would become Sticker Star.
I feel you man. I bought it for the same reason, when the game still looked good.
I'm glad that at least I got SMT IV.
>>336040832
Seeing the toads of the first two PM games causes me a rush of fond memories and emotions.
Seeing the toads of SS and CS makes me rage.
>>336038601
>>336041084
>Not linking the playlist instead
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLjYGJDZ2GqL9qcw4yhiCOjgBZmoFZq6P
>>336055224
>All those people that bought a 3DS for Sticker Star and Megaman Legends 3
>All those people that bought a Wii U for Zelda and SMT x FE
Buying a console for games that aren't out yet is kinda silly but damn I can't help but feel bad for these guys.
>>336055723
Saved.
>>336054406
>You know even Japan hated Other M, right?
If Nintendo heads think it's a success, then it's a success, sales be damned.
>>336055723
That picture makes me laugh every time.
>>336038601
Those stupid video splash screens piss me off more than Nintendo's rape of Paper Mario.
>>336054242
Because they don't care if it sells. Both Super Paper Mario and Sticker Star sold well. The new one will probably sell well too. Kids love their wacky cutout Mario in arts and crafts land while old neckbeards cry bitter tears.
>>336056486
It's on Wii U, it's bound to sell significantly less than those previous games.
>>336054406
A couple of months back Nintendo did a Super Metroid vs Metroid Prime discussion and they acted like Other M didn't exist. That's a good sign that they're looking at 2D and Prime and leaving Other M where it belongs, in the trash.
>>336056486
>sell well
It's on Wii U.
Also, most Wii U owners are old neckbeards.
>>336055801
I know it's silly, but it was fucking paper mario, how could it go wrong? They even said they were going back to rpg style.
>>336056662
>>336056696
True enough. It might still sell "well for a Wii U game". I've completely checked out really. I don't even care if they make new Paper Marios that suck ass.
What the fuck has been up with Nintendo these last few years?
Are they listening to a magic conch shell with every decision?.
>>336056791
And this was back in 2007. It was just a matter of them announcing it. Holy fuck.
>>336056989
Nintendo seems like they've been struggling to figure out what they should be doing. Like they're tearing themselves apart trying to decide whether to keep chasing after the Wii audience or to give up on them and just cater to the hardcore audience.
The only thing they managed to reach a consensus on in the past few years is that the Wii U isn't worth supporting so they've basically just been skirting around it and putting all of their energy into the 3DS or the NX while leaving it with nothing but scraps.
>>336056691
When they're willing to turn Prime into something like this it doesn't really matter.
I wonder how they'll be able to rape 2D Metroid if they ever decide to make a new one.
[distant ror]
>>336043520
Borderline retarded taste
>>336057771
I'm right though, and I already explained why.
>>336037060
This pretty much
>This game will be the first paper mario experience for a shit ton of kids
>They might never experience the original game
>>336042792
Well, i wasn't even aware that existed until now. Thanks for the cancer doc.
>>336056989
Just minding their own business, as they've always done.
It just doesn't work all the time.
Also bad organization. Basically, main teams are making Wii U (and handheld mainstream titles of series that are mostly handheld-exclusive, like Kirby and Fire Emblem) games, except that for Wii U titles, they have admitted that HD development took much, much longer than they expected and they basically fucked up.
The worst case is probably Camelot and Mario Tennis Ultra Smash - they were all excited to finally make a HD Mario Tennis but basically spent the entire development time just working on models & animations.
It also doesn't help that Miyamoto had decided during Galaxy 1's development that he wanted all Mario games to be standardized (read: NSMB-fied). We know that every next Mario game has been much less ambitious than Galaxy 1, and even spin-offes took the hit (AlphaDream and Nintendo kept fighting during M&L4's development because AD wanted to do ambitious stuff with the Luigi dream theme and Nintendo wanted them to keep it simple)
And then there's Sticker Star.
I don't know why they're making Color Splash. Maybe they started development right after Sticker Star (like Nintendo did with 3D World, which started development as soon as 3D Land was finished), maybe it's the regular team's take on Sticker Star's concepts, maybe they're just really fucking stupid & stubborn.
There is no way they don't know about fan feedback however. Everyone (in both Japan and the West) whines about how shitty Sticker Star is, and Nintendo did a survey on Facebook on what was people's favorite PM and practically everyone replied TTYD.
>>336037494
>wait for people to forget
>show it randomly in a direct, acknowledge that it got mixed responses, and tell fans that they're wrong and it will be good
It's all going to happen again /v/, just you wait.
>>336057903
>The original game will be too complex for them
>These same kids got stuck in Pokemon Red/Blue
>>336035829
I never seen the internet united as one for great disappointment such as the announcement of Colour Splash.
>>336057315
The last things they did to cater to the hardcore audience were Bayo2 and W101 years ago.
Ever since they did nothing but to shit on them.
>>336035829
>Falling for the Sticker Star 2 meme
>>336057884
>calling Dream "Tutorials until the end" Team better than BiS
>Saying PJ sucked hard, despite having the best gameplay and pacing in the series
>I'm right though
Loving every laugh, anon
>>336058465
>what how do I equip the action command pendant
>how come I cant use all the badges
>why do I need all these partners
>where are my stickers
>wtf I can only use the star spirit one time then I gotta wait?
>how do I kill the cloud man
>*puts all points in HP when leveling*
>>336035829
Yes! I can't wait to save Paper Toads with stickers! Truly, the essence of Paper Mario
>>336035829
Well Color Splash, that's too bad, because Nintendo officially no longer gives a shit about you.
>>336035829
>Make an absolutely beautiful game
>Ruin the gameplay
Did they ever mention it's coming to Wii U? Might wind up being a NX game
>>336058703
>better combat
>better level design
>better setting
>better OST
>better 2D sections
>better giant battles
>more content
>no mandatory stylo minigames every 20 minutes
BIS wasn't really that great, the only problems with DT are the tutorials and the gyro, is a far better game.
The Bowser combat in BIS is barebones and super easy, it doesn't even compare to all the options of the dream battles of DT, where you can move around, face different directions with the hammer, and battle big hordes of enemies.
The standard bros combat is far better in DT too, more challenging and more creative enemy patterns. Only PJ has better combat.
The level design in BIS is super lazy, they often didn't even bother scattering around the 10 attack pieces and just gave you 5 at a time.
And bacause of Bowser's lack of mobility the overworld is extremely streamlined and simple.
And I can't even imagine how anyone can think BIS had a better OST than DT.
Regarding PJ:
>Saying PJ sucked hard, despite having the best gameplay and pacing in the series
If the entire gameplay of PJ was just combat, I'd agree.
Instead you have to suffer the awful level design, worse backtracking in the series and criminal padding that are the Toad minigames (buth not just them, there are shoehorned awful minigames basically everywhere).
Minigames that makes the pacing of PJ the absolute worst in the series.
And of course the game has the worst setting and story in the series but everyone knows that.
>>336058465
>the same kids got stuck in pokemon red/ blue
this one stung the most, just how
>>336058465
>>336058818
Honestly, I can't blame these kids. Faggot devs have been landholding them and parents got rid of all of the old systems and games so that they never learned how to actually git gud. Sadly it may be up to our generation to teach them our ways so that games stop becoming so damn casual.
>>336037060
then tell me how I'm still alive.
>>336059723
You aren't. This is hell.
>>336041173
>more than just red toads
You're right, Anon. There is a generic GREEN Toad as well.
>>336040832
The misinterpretation of that Club Nintendo statistic kills me every time.
>story in Super Paper Mario was shit
>lol let's just not make a story for them to complain about!
>>336059697
They don't need our generation for validation or insight. They can just buy gear with their parents' plastic and look up strats on official wikis.
Hardcore gaming is dead.
>>336047087
Depression.
>>336060464
>Hardcore gaming is dead.
It's hardly even gaming now. Most of them just watch LPs, and the few who do play have shitty barebones games to choose from.
>>336045865
I have never read a single interview, article, press release, or anything else that has indicated he has done anything to make a game better. Sure, he came up with cool concepts back in the day when it was as simple as "boy explores caves with puzzles and swords" or "guy jumps on enemies and platforms" but everything since then has been worse off for his involvement. I look forward to the day he officially retires or dies.
>>336035829
i unironically love the art style of color splash i think it looks terrific. the game itself, not so much
>>336041173
>I saw, with only about a minute of video on the overworld, more than just red toads.
The issue is more than just red Toads. Sticker Star had a shitload of generic Toads, most of them red, the shop keeps were all blue and a couple purples were around also (which while not always mainly messed with the Thing>Sticker machine). My point is, just recoloring a Toad doesn't make them unique or creative and even Sticker Star proved that. It has exactly 2 unique Toads and I remember them easily, the one in the desert oasis chilling and the old time-like one in the Enigmansion.
>>336060456
But wait! He was holding a flag and book!
>>336061486
>yfw in the release of the game, the green toad will be gone
>A red toad will be in his place
>We couldnt save green toad
>>336054242
what a drama queen post. fucking up over 100 times? get real sometime soon
I am unironically waiting for Color Splash. I liked Sticker Star even if it's worst than Paper Mario 64 and TTYD. I mean, it can't be worst than PM:SS right?
>>336054242
There are parents now who once played in the NES/SNES/N64 era and raise their children on Nintendo products.
These parents and children enjoy playing those games.
Nintendo know they are the "children's toy makers" now.
They make easy, simple games for easy, simple minds with little time to play, and they'll continue down that path until they hit another Wii-like success.
>>336042792
Is that Weegee and Malleo?
>>336045865
>2020
>Miyamoto on his death bed
>Having finally learned english he makes one last trip around Kyoto
>Suddenly in the middle of the street he leaps from his bed, and splits into two mini-motos "Ta-da" he smiles to everyone.
>Turns out the doctors were able to save his life by sawing him in half
>Squeeky-voiced Mini-moto becomes the new president of Nintendo while the quieter minimoto keeps to himself doing hobbies so that he can trade vidya game ideas with his other half.
>With double the moto Nintendocrashes and burns hard.
>>336058818
>*puts all points in HP when leveling*
I actually did that as a kid. I was retarded.
