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>>336029196
He works with Miyamoto
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Didn't le yakuza man promote him recently?
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>>336029914
Wait shit to what?
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>>336030163
dunno specifically, I swear I heard something about him doing something new in the wake of Kimishima taking over though. Give me a minute.
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>>336030163
>>336030332
http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1182063

Yeah so nothing about a promotion but Kimishima seems to want to give him some stuff to do at least.
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>>336030769
Awesome. He deserves to have a bigge role on projects.
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>>336029196
>I just feel that the Mario games are something that should be a much more bright and active experience. With the Mario games, you don’t need to have such a complicated setting where you have these particular characters with complicated backstories that can weigh down the bright and fun feel of the game.
>Mr. Koizumi is the type of person who, whenever we’re working on a new Mario game, he always wants to bring more story elements into it, as he did with Super Mario Galaxy. But in talking with him this time, he agrees and feels that with Galaxy 2, there won’t be a need for as deep of a story.
>“Well, I put a stop to that at the beginning, this time,” Miyamoto said, and for emphasis punched the air with his fist.
>They always want to have these dramatic scenes where Princess Peach gets kidnapped, but I always tell them, no, it’s fine — Princess Peach likes cake, so you can just have them use cake as bait to kidnap Princess Peach, and that’s enough. [...] I was thinking they could have these big ships come in, and they’ve got these big chains all over them, and they drop a plate down with cake on it.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/06/miyamoto_borking_super_mario_galaxy_2s_story
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>>336030769
lets hope so, hes the only one left at nintendo with any talent now.
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Is it true that Miyamoto threw a chair at him when he snuck in Rosalina in SMG? ... Or at least got pissed at him?
Also, is it true that Iwata hated Koizumi?


I think he should take over the Zelda series, because I am so fed up with Aonuma's bullshit.
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>>336031141
God damn it. God fucking damn it.

The one person at Nintendo who understands better than anyone else how to tell a video game story, and this is what he gets stuck with.
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>>336031194
He asked, Aonuma didn't let him because there is no justice in the world.
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>>336031194
>Koizumi: Aonuma-san, wanna switch with me on Super Mario Bros. sometime?
>Koizumi: I'll make the next Zelda game. Then you can enjoy playing it.
>Aonuma:No way. (firmly)
>Everyone:(laughs)

http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/zelda-ocarina-of-time/1/7
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>>336031194
What exactly has Aonuma done? I know Zelda's been on a decline but I'm not familiar with the specifics of why people criticize him.
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>>336031141
To be fair he's right when it comes to the platform games, you play it for the gameplay mainly. The problem is that he stuck his nose in the RPGs where story and character focus should be. Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are amazing regardless of Rosalina's story
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>>336031141
why would anyone care about story in a mario game anyways? these aren't exactly deep characters.
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>>336031737
No hes not right. All those tiny stories didnt affect the gameplay at all, it just added personality to the game.
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>>336029196
Shitty controllers
Levels are more restricted / segmented
Camera is restricted, can't rotate it like I want
Lame powerups (a fucking Bee Mario)
Overworld suck
Waggling
Boring levels
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>>336031479
I think both men are right in their own way and there needs to be a balance struck. I thought Rosalina's story being to the side waiting to be discovered was great, and that was a compromise between them. It's Miyamoto squashing any sign of it in Galaxy 2 that gets me.
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>>336031735

excessive streamlining of gameplay, pretty much getting rid of the exploration aspects that made the original zelda so fun to play

2 hour tutorial at the start of a game

emphasis on a weak 'story' that never really goes anywhere

constant hand holding
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>>336031793
your right, but to miyamoto even the slightest hint at anything is considered too much. Theres nothing wrong with rosalina, the lore, and atmosphere added to the game. Even what was there was considered shit to miyamoto despite rosalina becoming a huge character in the mario games now.
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>>336031861
enjoy the pachinko level in sunshine eternally in hell.
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>>336031141
>“Well, I put a stop to that at the beginning, this time,” Miyamoto said, and for emphasis punched the air with his fist.
Literally worse than Hitler
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If you had to compare Miyamoto's, Koizumi's, and Aonuma's interpretations of Zelda to a book in regards of tone what would they be?
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Koizumi is the only man at Nintendo with actual talent
He should break off and form his own company, Nintendo is just stifling him with shovelware
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>Galaxy 1 is almost 10 years old

Do you think Koizumi lost his touch?
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>>336032584
Can't be worse than the current crop of hacks, can he?
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>>336031194
>And so that was my first experience doing the kind of work that we would now call "event design." But there were not too many people at the time with expertise in that area, so I really had free reign to do what I wanted, so long as I didn’t make Miyamoto angry.

>YK: When you think about the whole "save the princess" storyline of games being one of Miyamoto’s inventions, I don’t think of that as a story so much as it is a goal. It’s a way of creating a situation. There’s not necessarily a buildup and a resolution of a deeper kind, like you’d find in a novel. It’s just a situation that motivates the players. Lacking that kind of detailed nuance, that doesn’t mean I’m not interested in a story at all. It’s just that as a designer, my priorities are a little different. I tend to convey emotion in slightly different ways rather than just rely on the most obvious kind of narrative that we would think of when we think of storylines.


http://www.wired.com/2007/12/interview-super/
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>>336031989
It wasn't really a compromise, Koizumi snuck that in there.
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https://twitter.com/koizumi_yoshiak
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>>336032584
Koizumi hasn't directed a game since, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>336032584
He hasn't had a directing job since, not like he's even had the opportunity to fuck up.
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What's with all the Koizumi threads lately?
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>>336032273
I know how much you don't like the way Mario games are going by story but here is the thing. I want to make people happy and when I see NSMB skyrocketing in sales I know many people are being happy playing the game. I want those people to stay happy so I make sure the games cater to them so that they won't be distracted by much. People play Mario games not expecting a complex story, they just want funny cartoon characters saving the Princess and world from the cartoonishly scary Bowser. Happiness is a top priority that can be weighed down when the game pauses to introduce some character that wasn't needed or to stop because the plot demands it. This isn't what people who play Mario games want, they just want fun. After all the game is fine without a huge narrative or a new set of cast members, so do we even need it? After all adding all the text and characters will only delay the games release with all the translating and planning. Go read a book or watch a movie because Mario games are not meant for you.
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>>336031141

just die already
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>>336032669
>There's a person worse than Aonuma
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>>336033221
Is this from an actual interview? He's basically saying that because NSMB sold well he's trying his best to emulate it to keep profits up, completely neglecting the myriad of factors involved that contributed to NSMB's success, only one of which was story. It's also implying that making a good game isn't a priority, it's making a good selling game that is.
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>>336033221
I agree with this
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>it's a Koizumi dicksucking thread
How can anyone praise the man responsable for this piece of shit is beyond me.
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Koizumi and Miyamoto is like Steve Ditko and Stan Lee
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>>336033589
Producer credit means fucking nothing
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>>336033814
Wrong.
And doesn't stop people from blaming Aonuma for everything that is wrong in the Zelda he just produced.
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>>336029196
miyamoto couldnt stand somebody else puting mario to good use
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>>336033589
>producer
You really think the man trying to put story in everything was responsible for 3D World's direction?
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>>336033589
Everything about this picture angers me.
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>>336033504
No
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>>336033589
Rabid nintendo fanboys will eat anything modern nintendo shits out since everyone else who got disappointed stopped caring a long time ago
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>>336033589
Yeah that's why he wasn't even the director
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>>336033589

>Producer

nice bait
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>>336034852
>>336034837
>>336034269
>Aonuma produces SS
>everything about that game is his fault

>Koizumi produces 3DW
>HE WAS JUST THE PRODUCER, KOIZUMI DINDU NUFFIN, HE WAS A GUD BOI

Nice double standards, retards.
I can see why, having pushed the meme "Aonuma hack, Koizumi saviour of Zelda" for years, it might be hard to face reality, but this is just pathetic.
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>>336033589
But that was a good game. What's the problem?

And come on, tell me the problem without console wars shitflinging. Don't be a cunt.
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>>336035643
The focus on multiplayer makes the game a worthless single player experience, horrible art direction, recycled bosses, levels and assets out of the ass, no coherent theme defining the game, not even within the same world, etc.
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>>336035428
When did any of them mention Aonuma?
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>>336036497
Even leaving out Aonuma, Koizumi is the manager of the EAD studio responsable fot 3D Mario, not just the producer of the game.
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>Go on a Yoshiaki Koizumi thread on /v/
>"Oooh a Koizumi" thread
>Read through the comments
>Consider the comments
>Think to myself, "Hmmm, I wonder if youtube has anything on him..."
>Go on youtube
>Type in "Yoshiaki Koizumi" in the search bar
>This video pops up as the second choice that was uploaded four days ago
>OOOOOH, this looks good.
>Watch the video & a huge smile is plastered on my face.
>Then I'm sad when I realize that this man gets no creative power.
>Post vid on /v/
>Play the waiting game
>So what do you guys think about Koizumi?


https://youtu.be/sBnxbHndCw8
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>>336037226
That video needs more views
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>>336037226
Fuck off Turbobottom
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>>336031141
Does he think that he is doing a favor for all of us?
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>>336037613
maybe
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>>336037226
>just happened to have the thumbnail
>all this self promotion

Don't be coy, we know its you
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So how would Koizumi handle Nintendo IP that isn't Mario or Zelda?
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>>336033456
He'll just leave a will to make sure Mario games follow his vision forever
They wouldn't want to be disresepctfur
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>>336037226
>pretending to be someone self-promoting their stuff
That's kind of sad
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>>336039545
LOL, check my IP address fucker.

It's not me.
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>>336039980
I'm saying you're pretending to be the guy to make him look like a cunt.

https://twitter.com/Turbo_Button/status/726493248211025921
https://twitter.com/Turbo_Button/status/726493771966349312
https://twitter.com/Turbo_Button/status/726493984860811265
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>>336031141
On one hand, Mario doesn't need to be The Last of Us or whatever. On the other, the "Bowser kidnapped someone" thing has gotten stale as hell, and anything to make that a little more interesting would be great.
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>>336040354
I'm not pretending to be anyone motherfucker.

I just happened to youtube the guy and I found the video.

If it hasn't gone through your thick skull, I'm not pretending to be anyone.
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He made a mario game instead of a Zelda game
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>>336031614
aonuma should be shot
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>>336041880
>Aonuma: Hey, that sounds good… Not!

Bully confirmed
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Has anything gone wrong with him?

He is definitely the most talented second row guy at Nintendo (and has been in the shadow of the "big guys" for far too long).
I hope he steps up in the near future.
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>>336041305
>go out of way to get high res thumbnail of the video
>write about how you jerk off to it like no one ever would when just posting a video

Try writing your post in a way that doesn't make it the most bait thing, then.
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>>336033589
its not his fault that his company forces him to make these shitty games. Since nintendo renovated their entire company around the time of the wii's release koizumi has been locked down to the mario series.
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>>336033589
That's Miyamoto's fault. Fuck him.
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>>336042265
He could have made a good Mario game than.
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>>336042421
Well memed.
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>>336033589

>A game that's meant to be a unique and different design approach

>AAAAAAH THEY RUINED IT MUH NOSTALGIA

Holy shit you fucks truly are shitstains

They make a new design every fucking gen

This time they decided to push the first design decision of Mario in 3D

You don't have to sperg like autists about it

NX is already confirmed a new style 3D Mario

Because they do it different all the fucking time
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>>336043626
You seem upset, calm down.
That problem isn't that it's different, is that it's a bad game.
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>>336042513
cant make a good mario game when your boss is telling you to make it as simply and insipid as possible
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>>336033589

>Piece of shit because it's not MUH Galaxy

>Because it's not WHAT I WANT
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>>336043994

Except it's not

It has pushed Platforming perfection as far as 3D Mario goes
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>>336044441
Not him, and I like 3D World, but the much more watered down moveset really doesn't help your case.
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>>336044098

>Simple

Except it's not

3D World has a lot of creativity and level design, you do new shit every level and doesn't over saturate, similar to Galaxy 2

Just because you don't have a hung over theme doesn't suddenly mean this game wasn't fantastic and fun, you have shit like circuses and Japanese temples for fucks sakes hat Galaxy hasn't even done yet
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>>336044441
>>336044652
>The focus on multiplayer makes the game a worthless single player experience, horrible art direction, recycled bosses, levels and assets out of the ass, no coherent theme defining the game, not even within the same world, etc.
>>336044329
What's with 3DWfags and strawmanning? Have they some kind of mental disability?
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>>336029196
Tutorial shitfest and waggle. Also controls were shit you walk around a planet into a hole
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>>336029196
Just another of Nintendo's overrated hacks.
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>>336044917
3dworld while sadly not a main title still rapes galaxy. Yes most of it is because of couch multiplayer
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>>336044972
Epic

He's just about the only talented guy there left.
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>>336037226
>Guy joined video games so he can make dramatic stories and tension
>He can't do it anymore
#FreeKoizumi
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>>336029196
He should leave and join another company that respects him.
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>>336045879
What would it take for him to snap?
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>>336031141
>>“Well, I put a stop to that at the beginning, this time,” Miyamoto said, and for emphasis punched the air with his fist.
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