What went wrong?
>>336026504
the fact that two or more people can grab a ledge
Not muh Melee
Full priced game with mountains of pricey DLC that separates the online community.
3DS
The 3DS version, despite it having the better modes and stages.
They made yet another game with Pikachu as a high tier character but not as an easy-to-use character.
Just not fun. It doesn't have to be melee but they could at least not make things fucking retarded.
>almost no hitstun
>make a character tailor made to combo while the rest have jackshit outide of dthrow and jank setups
>>336026504
All these games and yet it's still not a game about smashing a brother.
Is this today's tourney thread?
>>336028925
I hope so, I'm looking for some /v/eekend Smash
>>336028070
Do you think this would be the case is Brawl didn't exist?
As in, would this game be accepted as the "slightly less competitive" Smash game Sakurai intended to make after Melee went against his original vision for it by becoming a highly competitive game?
>>336026504
the 3DS version killed the Wii U version, and some of the reasons were unnecessary, the wii u version should have had all the 3ds stages, gimping the wii u version in purpose so both were equal was a huge mistake, the 3ds ironically having better modes
>>336028450
>cant use fucking pikachu
whats so hard about pikachu? in fucking smahs 4 even.
>>336026504
Quantity over Quality the game
>>336026504
split playerbase
all the good maps went to the shitty handheld version
no adventure mode or SSE, instead we get that shitty board game
too many FOTM literally who anime characters and waifushit
expensive DLC
>>336026504
The Wii U holding back the 3DS version, also anime characters like Shulk who are wasted slots.
Bayo
>>336026504
Fire Emblem
>>336026504
The shit sub title and fire emblem
Nothing, other than op being a faggot
>>336026504
neutral game has barely any options.
still too much like brawl.
some of the later DLCs feel like were made too good just to sell, like Cloud being a swordfighter but none of the swordfighter flaws and Bayonetta's rule breaking attacks
To continue on:
>smash run is a lot of fun, wish we got more of it
>3ds single player is fun, granted I liked master fortress and such
>58 characters total and really none of them are truly bad like in melee and brawl, can't think of one character that can't be used well at least to some degree after all these patches.
They removed Pokemon Trainer
>>336034252
Love how people think Brawl is bad still.
>>336026504
>>336026504
Bayonetta is broken as fuck
Multicharacter stock matches being locked behind a shitty minigame
And meh new stages
>>336034672
i don't even think it's that bad, it's just that majority of the games being so different and then this being simple brawl is really disappointing
>>336034889
The goal seemed to be to make it like melee but w/o wavedashing and such. Really speed wise it is around melee's base game. It just has stuff like ledge trumping.
>>336027907
Smash 4's ledge mechanics are "fine", just need some further tweaking. And it's dumb how they fixed tethers yet removed most of them anyways.
>>336028323
>Full priced game with mountains of pricey DLC that separates the online community.
Which was developed AFTER the game went gold, and it doesn't separate anything.
>>336027907
Oh boo hoo
>muh gimping
>>336026504
consecutive rolls outpace half the rosters dash speed
dash -> shield -> drop -> option is significantly faster than dash -> brake/skid -> option because of no dash cancels
airdodges are plain broken
stun states are retarded, effectively an aerial bury with no knockback reduction and independent launch properties that put you in hitstun even after being freed from stun
dlc characters
>>336028450
>nearly unpunishable up b
>down throw to any aerial
>up throw to down b for kills
>f-smash is a free kill move to throw around because it is safe on block
>back air is the easiest aerial to use for stage spiking
>grabs against him miss half the time
There is nothing hard about pikachu
>>336026504
Nothing. It's the best game in the series with really no competition. I played Melee for over 1000 hours since launch, Brawl for over 600, and Smash 4 ALREADY for over 800. I'm amazed people could go back to Melee or Brawl after playing it.
>>336028450
what the fuck Pikachu can literally pass neutral with 1 button.
if you have problems with that you're shit
>>336026504
It was not made by HAL, which is the secret to a good Smash.
I'm not sorry.
>>336028734
Nigga what do you think Luigi is there for
>>336036319
You probably dont play competitive so its understandable. Also its single player content is also the most lackluster in the entire series.
It has the best roster and graphics, but thats about it. It doesnt have the best music, nor stages, nor single player, nor items, and absolutely not gameplay.
For the Wii U?
Nothing
For the 3DS?
THIS SHIT
>>336031267
Nigga Xenoblade chronicles was good
>>336031267
what character did you want anon?
>shit talking a range sword fighter with stat changes
yeah nah, tr4sh did alot of things wrong but the roster and moveset variety is the best in the series
No subspace emissarry
>>336026504
No Banjo
