This game looks amazing, and a possible contender for best 4x game ever. Even better then Master of Orion.
Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Huuacl6oqI
>>336024728
I pre-ordered. First time in eight years I've done that. Paradox probably won't outright fuck us over so much as release a shitload of DLC. Also it's a grand strategy game not an RTS.
>>336024728
It's not out yet, too soon to judge
>>336025039
I have to agree. Paradox is one of those game developers that has yet to fuck with its fan base. In fact, they seem to go overboard to stay engaged with said fan base.
I preordered as well, even though I swore I never would again after my experience with Rome II.
>>336025406
>Rome 2
How does one fuck up release so badly
>>336025723
Creative Assembly found a way. I've heard they've "fixed" it since, but I don't even want to justify the space on my hard drive it would take to find out. Its a permanently grayed out reminder on my Steam account to what I could have spent 60 bucks on.
Like all Paradox games, I have to wait for at least 6 months to play it because I don't want to beta test this shit for them on release.
Still, I hope it's good.
>>336025406
>Paradox is one of those game developers that has yet to fuck with its fan base.
All those bullshit mechanics they keep shoveling in their games are a major fuck with a rusty spoon.
The corruption/regions/states bullshit they added to EU IV was the last straw.
>>336024728
Are there any known crazy new mechanics? I heard you can do slavery and genocide as legitimate mechanics.
>>336027106
This. I want my game shallow as a puddle. If I wanted more mechanics, I'd play Aurora or Distant Worlds.
>>336024728
>rts
>master of orion
What? Are you literally retarded?
Also, it looks like Endless Space with slightly less outdated graphics.
>>336027282
I want the game I paid money for to stay the game I bought. Not turn into some turbo-autism simulator because nolifers don't find it enough of a challenge.
>>336027170
There's nothing crazy about slavery and purging pops. Shit's as basic as one would assume.
Reddit's first Grand Strat game. Somehow CK2 was too complex.
>>336027170
They're deliberately not going into detail on a fair few things in their streams just to tease people, but yes, you can purge and genocide other aliens.
There's even a special government form, Fanatical Purists, that helps with that.
>>336027646
>tfw no CK2 in space called DUNE
>>336027106
Anon, they keep backups of most older versions of EUIV on Steam, you can just opt into an older version using the beta tab.
>>336027760
there's this http://www.moddb.com/mods/crisis-of-the-confederation. hopefully Memelaris doesn't take the wind out of its sails.
>>336025039
>it's a grand strategy game
kek. Good one kid.
>>>/4xg/
>>336027903
It looks like shit tho.
>>336027531
Employing those as legitimate mechanics (as opposed to other games where you just blast a whole planet's pop down to zero from orbit) is definitely something I've almost never seen.
>>336027660
That sounds awesome. I was hoping(and i know this is just my fetishes speaking)for some kind ofinterspecies breeding/marriage mechanic
Master of Orion was supposed to save 4x. This is not fair
>>336025406
>Paradox is one of those game developers that has yet to fuck with its fan base.
>>336027969
Except it is GSG. Paradox has said so, the details release so far suggest so, and even the preview on Steam tagged it as such.
Stay mad, 4Xfags
>>336025039
Yeah, Paradox releases a solid base game for relatively cheap and then gets their money by shitting out hundreds of DLC for years.
>>336028207
>Master of Orion was supposed to save 4x.
No. that's Amplitude.
>>336028136
I'm glad it's so hyped. There's already geeks preparing flavor mods for the game to come out within the first week on the workshop. Unless Valve goes full christian muslim hopefully our fetishes will get snuck into them.
>>336028213
The guy he was replying to addressed that. They don't outright fuck their fan base over. They just do a lot of annoying DLC.
>>336028213
lol I just pirate the DLCs. The one chump who bought them is always the one that hosts anyways.
>>336028398>you will never become the closest of allies with an alien race to such an extent that actual love blossoms between your peoples and they birth a fucking awesome hybrid race destined to rule the stars
ha ha just bombard me from orbit, f a m
>>336028378
NOOOOO I WAITED 20 FUCKING YEARS FOR THIS.
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. WHERE MY MOOBROS ARE?
>>336028213
>buying aesthetic DLC
>>336028378
>You will reach pefect Harmony in your lifetime.
>>336024728
I have over 3,000 hours logged in EU4 and I am fucking hype for Stellaris.
>>336028634
>releasing aesthetic DLC
>>336028378
Fuck them. I faithfully bought ES and it sucked. Now apparently with EL they became hot shit.
>>336028798
>ES and it sucked
It was a good start for a new studio's first game.
>>336028798
Endless Space was pretty meh.
Endless Legend is objectively fantastic, especially with the recent updates.
Endless Space 2 should be amazing since they've obviously learned their lesson from ES and EL.
>>336028798
EL's overrated. The only thing it has going for it are aesthetics and faction asymmetricality. Don't even get me started on their shitty expacs.
>>336028929
Disagree, I found EL very boring.
>>336028589
Would inter-species breeding even be possible? I feel like the differences between two species who developed in completely different ecosystems would make cross-breeding impossible.
If Stellaris turns out to be good it should be discussed in 4X, not GSG.
>>336024728
>tfw going to make a collectivist, spiritual alien empire that enslaves lesser races and worships dark celestial gods
Why does it feel so good to be bad bros?
>>336029032
>>336029017
Your opinions arewrong.
>>336028921
>>336028929
Endless space doesn't even launch.
Even the studios own forums and employees can't fix it when you post on their site.
>>336029067
How is it not GSG?
>>336029038
Spock is half human half vulcan, so in a videogame it should be fucking possible. Though for all intents and purposes he's just a Vulcan so I don't expect Stellaris to go balls out.
>>336028136
From what I can gather there is nothing like interspecies relationships in the game although one of the focii you can select for your government (stuff like whether or not your government is spiritualistic or scientific, militaristic or peaceful) is borderline xenophilic.
The combinations of focii will allow you to select a number of government types (Fanatical Purists, Peaceful Traders, Ruthless Capitalists etc).
I doubt xeno-on-xeno love is in the base game but there'll be mods I'm sure.
>>336029187
It is objectively 4X and has no place in /gsg/.
t. Rob
>>336029187
Have you seen GSG? Nothing good belongs there.
>>336029159
>Endless Space doesn't even launch
The hell are you on about?
>>336029305
How is it not GSG? And why do you think they can't overlap?
>>336029159
>I, out of 800,000 people that bought the game, have a problem
>this makes the game shit
>>336028793
Nobody is holding a gun to your head to buy it Anon.
Is there only one human portrait?
>>336029148
>LH did citybuilding better
>LH did quests better
>LH did combat better
>AoW3 did combat 100 times better
>AoW3 did AI better
>AoW3 did diplomacy better
>AoW3 did minor factions better
>>336029561
Doubtful. There were variations even among the Blorg in their live stream, so I am sure there is variation.
And even if they are variations on the same thing I guarantee there will be a mod to turn all the characters into Anime girls within a week.
>>336029561
Nah. Btw they're doing multiplayer streams with youtubers this wed or thurs so get hype for that. I'm sure we'll see most of the game if they aren't jews.
>>336029424
>Forum is filled with the same issue
>Steamforum has multiple threads on it
>plenty of other websites have trouble shooting advice
>J-j-just one person!
>>336029561
Because there is only one human race. d'oh.
>>336029657
>>>AoW3 did diplomacy better
>>AoW3 did minor factions better
Objectively wrong.
>4x
Can't wait for the next Victoria guys
haha, btw is there any news on EvW?
haha
>>336029705
Works for me :^)
>>336029484
That doesn't change how incredibly scummy it is to charge $2 for a bunch of shitheap assets that should've been included with the expacs they were released alongside.
>>336029159
sure thing buddy
>>336029850
It did, though. EL's diplomacy is pitifully simplistic and it's diplo victory is fucking abominable. AoW3 at least has the decency to include racial and alignment-based modifiers, as well as having victory conditions more involved than "talk to people a lot." Even Rising Tide managed to implement a better version of their resource system.
>>336025406
What paradox game is the first one you've played?
If we go back to the days of HoI2 and Vicky1 to today there hasn't been any improvement, they topped out with HoI3 and instead of fixing and improving upon the issues of micromanagement and clutter they've decided to continually dumb it down.
>>336030172
>Even Rising Tide managed to implement a better version of their resource system.
When the fuck did you last play EL? AI's have personality now and react to your actions.
In AoW3 the only thing Diplomacy was for is asking for their surrender.
>>336030172
Endless space was the way IMO. Diplomatic and Economic victories are obnoxious even under lower difficulty settings compared to expansion and conquest. And utterly impossible under higher difficulties because your entire economic and scientific output is tied up building an endless array of warships to stave off the horde.
>>336024728
please buy stellaris
>>336030483
Hearts of Iron 3. It was a revelation since I was a history buff. So detailed and in depth. It made me stick through the learning curve, and I played it for years.
>>336030721
I'll pirate it first and then get it when it's on humble bundle like I did with CK2, Victoria 2 and your other games.
Oh wait, I ended buying EU4. Fucking Swedens. At least I'm pirating your DLC fucking degenerates
>>336030817
Sorry, HoI II, not 3.
Didn't know about its existence but looks promising.
Will I eventually be able to adopt organic ships and shit? I imagine a lot of hairbrained scifi tropes rattling in my head will be saved for DLC.
>>336030817
And you still stick to your delusion that paradox hasn't shat all over its fanbase?
They love and care about their reddit fans and other uninspired faggots who gladly swallow tons of dlc, the old fanbase who played hoi2 and 3 and to a degree the autists who only play vicky 2 are being ignored completely by paradox.
First CK2, which has some reedemable features, then EU4 which is an outright downgrade from EU3
HoI4 will be a disaster unless it's very moddable which I assume it wont be.
pls buy stellaris
>>336031207
>They love and care about their reddit fans
Stopped reading right there. Do you expect them to get feedback from this anonymous pisshole? Kill yourself with your weasel words.
>>336030497
Unless there have been radical changes since late March, those "personality" quirks are practically nonexistent, as is interaction with the AI in general. I played a 200 turn game and hardly ever spoke to my southern neighbor beyond him continually opening and closing his borders.
AoW3 has racial diplomacy, which can have a major impact on how you actually manage captured cities, even causing enemy cities to turn if you have a good enough relationship with their race. You can also create vassals, forge alliances, and do practically everything you can in Endless Legend.
>>336025039
There is nothing wrong with DLC for paradox titles. They stagger them through the year, so you come back to the game after a break. Spend a couple bucks, get a new experience. It's one of the best DLC plans in the industry.
It's like ice cream. The original game is plain vanilla, some people like it best. But then you can get sprinkles and butterscotch toppings and each time it's like a completely new experience.
Glad you preorderd though, I preordered as well. It's going to be a fun, good game. I hope they do lots of good, fun DLC.
>>336025406
Exactly!
Rate my empire /v/
pls buy it
>AoW3
the game is good and all, but that's not a 4X on my book.
It's still the Heroes of Might and Magic rival for me.
>>336031356
I am saying that the fanbase which I am apart of is being shat on by paradox, another part of their fanbase which gladly swallows whatever they put out is being pandered to.
So your original statement is wrong, fuck yourself.
pls buy
>>336024728
How does combat work?
That will decide much for me.
If it is gal civ style boring bs, I am not interested.
>>336031859
pls fuck off
>>336031868
Sort of like Gal civ, but you can set the AI for the ship and retreat in the middle of battle
pls
pls buy
It's Paradox, so it'll probably be a massively buggy piece of shit that needs months of patches and fan mods to work properly.
Still, I'll admit that I've wasted way more time on EU3 and 4 than I'd like to admit.
I'd wait till some massive sale unless you absolutely have to have it now.
>>336032003
AKA boring shit where you can only watch the fleets duke out.
pls do it
i'm literally starving
>>336032168
Pretty much. Kinda Hoping for something like SOTS to show up soon.
https://kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/?version=1&name=%22%22ðoses=&government=&traits=
Stellaris Government builder.
I am going with the following.
https://kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/?version=1&name=%22I%20have%20no%20idea%20what%20I%20am%20going%20to%20name%20it%20yet.%22ðoses=1,15&government=1&traits=4,5,21
>>336028207
I trust Wargaming about as far as I can throw them.
>>336024728
NOT TURN BASED...
I just want to true successor to Space Empires...
>>336032341
https://kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/?version=1&name=%22I%20have%20no%20idea%20what%20I%20am%20going%20to%20name%20it%20yet.%22ðoses=1,9,13&government=4&traits=8,16,24
>>336032291
Just eat the icecream you're always talking about you fuck.
>>336029265I never watched Star Trek. I though Spock was full alien.
I guess there already is a fair amount of hybrids in scifi anyways. I just always found it weird since I would think that species with completely different DNA and biochemistry and all that fancy shit would have no chance at creating offspring.That isn't to say they wouldn't try their damnedest anyways.
>>336032697
Suzu a cute
>>336033047
Who is this Cock Mancer?
>>336032327
Sots is my shit for space battles. Tech tree too.
Simulated projectile combat all the way, turns me on like nothing else as opposed to just stay based stuff.
>>336024728
It looks pretty barebones in the Blorg streams, but fun
>>336027106
I think states would've been fine, IFF it had been planned since the start of the game. States themselves help to contribute to focused expansion rather than opportunistic taking of provinces that are weak, which has led to faster blobbing.
Corruption I don't really mind, but I don't care for the estate system very much at all. It like they tried to add an interface between you and provincial governments, but instead estates don't really help you manage anything and instead constantly annoy you with demands in exchange for minor buffs. Also, I don't really like the generic nobility/church/merchants stance, I'd rather see estates be how in sync the local state government is with the central government, with each state government being dynamically generated with specific goals in mind for their local region.
>>336028798
My only real problem with Endless Space is how impersonal everything seems. The discovery of technologies that would cause massive shifts in the society of your empire are only represented in mundane bonuses to industry and wealth. Unlike older civs where unlocking technology enables things like railroads which completely changes the game, or artillery or an air force, etc, Endless Space stays pretty much a linear increase in industry, science, and military, with no real spikes or changes to the fundamentals.
>>336033560
Just remove all the estates and let them shit themselves. What, 5% less tax and manpower regen? Who gives a shit. Ignore that mechanic like you ignore the fort mechanic when you're an island nation.
>>336024728
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
EMPIRE DESIGNER TO PLAN YOUR BUILD FOR RELEASE
>>336033047
I want to violate Suzu ;_;
>>336034448
I thought they launched an actual rebellion with significant modifiers if their loyalty dropped too much?
>>336034539
>not going militant and xenophobe
Why would you choose anything else?
>>336036035
extremely xenophobe and militaristice or extremely miliitaristic is the only question really
>>336036182
If we are not alone in the Universe the only logical and safe course of action is to insure we become alone.
>>336036035
>not going militant and xenophobe
Every /pol/ memester and redditor is doing this. LE DEUS VULT LE GOD EMPORER LE HEIL HITLER
You're boring.
>>336024728
>RTS
>>336025039
>won't outright fuck us over so much as release a shitload of DLC
Hate to break it to you but that is fucking you over.
>>336034521
Thanks.
>>336028207
it did have catgrills though
>>336036415
I wanted to do something like the Automations from ES or the Yor from GalCiv. Build a massive industrial base, ignore everyone else and just pave over their worlds with factories.
It's not that I hate you or anything, it's simply that I must build things.
>>336028798
endless space had pretty cool lore though
http://endlessspace.wikia.com/wiki/Endless
>>336036403
All hail the Space Nazis
>>336029017
>The only thing it has going for it are aesthetics and faction asymmetricality
god if only Beyond Earth had factions like EL, it might have been a good game
>>336030497
>filename
kek
who thought this was a good mechanic?
>>336035640
No. You just get the tiny "Under 40%" penalty forever.
>>336031603
not bad, rate mine
>>336037094
why not prussia
>>336031603
Am I supposed to be impressed with your primitive level of gore?
>>336034521
I don't like how limited this is.
>>336037094
Your first time playing the game man?
>>336037208
Prussia has good traditions but I like the order's more. Powerful and cheap units, +1 papal influence which alongside the religious national idea tree means you will always have full curia. Its kind of ridiculous how much better catholic with all the curia bonuses is than anything you can get from any of the other religions.
BTW I haven't played EU4 in a long while, have they changed the french wars of religion national disaster at all? Because I played hundreds of games and I think I saw an ai trigger it once.
Is this game going to let me turn aliens into second class citizens, resettle them, enslave and exterminate them? If not I'll just keep playing distant worlds. I hate space games that don't let me practice human supremacy.
>>336038337
You can do that
>>336038337
yes, yes, yes, and yes
>>336038337
From the sound of things you can enslave and exterminate depending on your factions ethics.
>>336038337
yes
>fanatic xenophobe
>Any alien influence must be ruthlessly quashed. Only by staying pure, and true to ourselves and the planet that gave us life can we guard against insidious Xeno plots. Even mastery over the Alien might not be enough to guarantee our safety...
>fanatic militarist
>The ability to project force is at paramount importance. The only way to preserve our way of life is to make everyone share it, willingly or not.
>>336037663
>"collectivist" just means you like slavery more and "individualist" just means you make more money
yeah this is stupid
>>336034521
Time to bring progress to the galaxy whether xenos like it or not and settle on every single fucking planet there is just because we can.
>>336038571
>Can't have both at the same time
I really hate this empire maker.
>>336037832
It's only really possible to get better benefits as a Catholic with a Theocracy though. Protestants get better benefits with much less effort, until you can chain the pope's blessings over your nation consistantly.
>>336038631
Bonuses and maluses aren't the focus of ethos, gameplay is. What government you can take depends on your stance on collectivist/individualist dichotomy and both of those things heavily affect diplomacy.
Also individualist pops will more likely drift away from your ethos and form factions.
So what if I want a game where there are no Xenos just humans?
Can I do that?
>>336038836
>I want to have my perfect empire at the beginning of the game
There's this thing called 'Society research', you know?
>>336039951
whatTechnically you can but why would you want that you faglord?
>>336034521
Pacifist sounds like basically playing on hard mode with those maluses
>>336040150
>>336039951
>>336039951
Yes you can do that,
https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/717774037036965889
>>336025406
>>336031524
Johan you disgust me you fat fucking faggot
Dråt helvete
>>336040150
Because xenos are boring.
>>336028630
Just go play moo2 again man. It's over.
>>336040384
Not really, pacifists are designed to form alliances and federations, uplift pre-ftl species to form protectorates and conquer other empires by opening borders and flooding their planets with your pops.
'Army damage' only applies to ground troops, not spaceships, so who cares. You can bolster ground troops with attachments and buildings too.
As for the war tolerance thing - come on now, they're basically hippies after all.
Also most of those bonuses/maluses are not really that big and you can offset them by researching technologies.
I just want the inevitable Star Wars mod
>>336040772
>xenos are boring
>humans are not boring
>>336041414
>conquer other empires by opening borders and flooding their planets with your pops
holy shit yes. playing as space mexico and destroying all the trump empires with immigration sounds like fun
Super scientist space slugs, here I come. I could have sworn they mentioned something about hive minds on stream, but I guess I heard wrong. I'll just pretend collectivism is a hive mind, then
>>336041763
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government
So far we know of 14 government types you can unlock later on.
>>336041971
>Subconscious Consensus
The fuck does that mean?
>>336029932
>That doesn't change how incredibly scummy it is to charge $2 for a bunch of shitheap assets that should've been included with the expacs they were released alongside.
>vidya company
>release dlc for $X
>yum! more dlc pls
>paradox
>release main dlc for $X-Y and optional cosmetic dlc for $Y
>fucking jews
Some players don't want cosmetics and pay less for dlc.
Some players want cosmetics and pay normal price for the entire thing.
Why you guys bitch and moan when devs give you more choice is beyond me.
>>336041763
"hive mind" is specifically used for an AI personality type
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Artificial_intelligence
collectivist ethos is basically intended for what you're thinking of though
>>336041759
That's why you get bonus to food production, bro. ;^)
>>336042359
>implying the whole DLC of mainly text boxes and a couple of stats modifiers is worth X to begin with
>>336029290
Shouldn't hybrids be possible since all the races are dynamically assembled out of a bunch of parts?
Anyway I'm super hyped for this since crusader kings was too complex and normal space 4x games are too macro for me to care
>>336041763
>>336041971
>>336042392
One of the devs said that they left the 'collectivism' ambiguous on purpose so that you could roleplay whatever you want, be it communism or hivemind.
However if you're looking forNERVE STAPLING, the upgrade of Despotic Hegemony is what you're looking for...~
>>336042894
>crusader kings was too complex
I'm not autistic enough for other Grand Strat games and even I think CK2 is fucking simple. Shit plays itself.
>>336042894
>crusader kings was too complex
>>336029159
it works for me bro :)
>>336038791
>xenophile
>intelligent
>>336042834
>implying a bunch of 1s and 0s is worth anything to begin with
>>336024728
INTERGALACTIC RACE WAR!
GAS THE BLORG!
>>336043260
Have you played Crusader Kings lately?
The game is stupidly complex now and bloated to all hell.
I can hardly even play it and it made me want to go back to a saner more rational game like hearts of iron and vicky 2.
>>336037623
How do I get so big in so little time? I like to give my family the best positions in my Empire and they always hate me. Ungrateful fucks.
>>336043539
I bet the kikes are behind this
>>336043641
Last time way Way of Life
>>336043490
Good point desu
>>336034521
Haha, time for space templars
I hope you can release nations or something so you can simulate a balkanization of your xboxhueg empire and then play as one of the smaller states
>>336044068
>slow breeding
>solitary
too close to home /v/
I'm gonna start with a random empire on Ironman and just roll with the punches
>>336042203
Sounds like a hivemind sort of deal.
>>336037623
>>336031603
pft
>>336043361
>not raising a wide variety of xenos to properly colonize and exploit worlds with harsh environment for your benefit
>not conscripting strong xenos into shock assault squads and sending them to conquer hostile worlds in your name
>not doing this while the true human master race stays in their comfy laboratories and makes SCIENCE
Holy shit how pleb can you get.
The best thing you can do is make others believe they're equal and exploit them for your gain. Faggot.
>>336043641
Explain what you mean? I don't think it's too complex.
>>336043832
Yeah see, they added two major expansions, completely changed how the councils work and tacked on the EUs infamy system for no good reason.
There is so much going on the game is just retarded now.
>>336044530
>implying there is a single task that an alien could do better than a properly trained and equipped human
Enjoy getting outbred by xenos on your own homeworld lmaoCan you set different migration/settlement laws for different planets? I don't mind a few alien slaves to quickly build up my border worlds but I want my core systems to stay pure
>>336044535
Not him but that free update that popped up alongside Conclave and introduced thread and defensive pacts totally threw the game upside-down.
The worst thing about it is it's an update and not a dlc so it affects everybody. You can rollback to the earlier version but newer dlcs won't work.
Oh well, at least there are mods to fix the game, who cares for achievements anyway.
>>336044929
you can force relocate pops, but not sure about individual laws for planets
>>336045113
Threat isn't more complexity, it just artificially forces the game to be slower. It's a limit on how much you can declare war, that's it.
Hows hoi 4 looking?
>>336045580
I think it looks good, from the streams minor nations look like they are actually viable this time around
>>336044929
I remember an edict that only allowed the primary species to move to different parts of your domain. So yes your core planets will stay xeno free.
>>336045761
Oh nice, I always hated how they may as well not have been there in the other games.
>>336024728
PLS BUY
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>>336044929
>implying there is a single task that an alien could do better than a properly trained and equipped human
As much as I agree you in general terms, in game terms it's not possible, sadly.
Like the colonization I mentioned - no matter the technology you won't be able to settle all habitable planets to 100% capacity with your main species, that's where xenos come in because they have different sweetspot than your people do.
Also you can min-max different trait sets xenos have and put industrious pops into factories, agrarian pops into farms and thrifty pops into power plants for your maximum min-max pleasure, you can't really do that with only one race.Thanks to society research though, you can research bio-engineering and fully embrace transhumanism by upgrading your pops with additional traits.As for your question though,you can set-up open borders with individual ai empires and resettle pops yourself (unless you're individualistic) so you have some degree of control over that; with slaves you can do whatever you want without asking anyone for permission anyway..
I like 4x games but I'm never good at them
>>336046353
>open borders
>>336043490
are you seriously implying intellectual property should have no value? Why create anything then.
>>336044489
>Roman empire
>capital isn't Rome
>letting a woman lead
>>336046353
why is arctic one step away from oceanic?
Earth is continental class?
>>336046712
You don't even know what the roman flag looks like?
>>336024728
>RTS
Isn't it a GSG?
>>336046458
>open borders
>get some xenos
>send some of your shittier pops to them so you get cheaper wargoals on their planets
>close borders
>enslave xenos
>declare war
What?
>>336047101
you're right, because I don't play shit games
what are you playing as then?
>>336047219
Carpathia, I think
>>336046991
Continental is Earth. Temperate climate.
Ocean is mostly water. Temperate.
Arctic is mostly snow and ice. Snow and ice is water. Cold.
Tundra is mostly rock and moss. Cold
Arid is mostly mountains and dust. Hot/cold.
Desert is mostly sand. Hot.
Tropical is mostly trees. Hot.
>>336046547
I was being ironic because his argument was shit.
Overall it's a pretty decent time for strategy fans.
Well maybe not RTS crowd, those guys have it rough.
>>336047916
Decided to picture your post anon.I know I did a shit job
>>336034521
>>336048473
Naah man, it's cool.
Actually I'm gonna save it for future threads because silly me couldn't figure out why species that originated on continental world couldn't settle on arid/tundra planets, when arctic and desert worlds sound way more extreme.Water, duuh.
>>336049153
hey reddit
>>336049153
>>336049468
This is LITERALLY plebbit.
*tip*
I only heard "It's not Aurora 4X"
>>336048473
Can we not Terraform?
>>336050395
You need a rare resource and there aren't enough in the galaxy to terraform all planets to suit your starting species.
It's like Uranium in Civ5.
>>336050395
You can, it can be researched
>>336050395
Pretty sure terraforming is in the game, at least in a limited capacity. I think it's more of a late-game option, and requires access to strategic resources
>>336050612
>You need a rare resource to do that* and there aren't enough in the galaxy to terraform all planets to suit your starting species.
>It's like Uranium in Civ5 - Useful but there's not enough of it in the map to build a nuclear reactor in every city*
>>336050395
You can but it's really expensive and may not be worth it.
Purging meme aside that's why xenos are useful.
>>336050395
It's limited because they specifically did not want every planet in the galaxy to be altered to your perfect gaia planet.
>>336024728
>RTS
>its clearly a 4x
>No specific information about game mechanics
>>336051023
>No specific information about game mechanics
There is almost a fucking day's worth of constant game footage on Paradox's youtube channel and they released pre-release copies to some grand strategy youtubers which will upload footage of their own games soon.
You can already get a very clear idea of how a game will go down.
>>336051023
at the start it's a 4x but when you grow your empire it becomes more like Vic 2
>>336051232
>You can already get a very clear idea of how the ratings will go down.
ftfy friend
>>336051023
>No specific information about game mechanics
>>336051313
>I'm contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
>I'm stating that ratings will go down even though I know next to nothing about the game
>I want video games to be bad because deep inside I blame them for everything that went wrong in my life
ftfy friend
what the fuck happened with GalCiv 3 anyway? I haven't heard anyone at all even mention it
I hope its more Grand strategy than 4X.
If it's too much 4x I don't think Im going to play.
>>336051828
It's... bland. Boring.
It's not bad by any stretch of imagination, it's just not very good either.
the fuck is this shit
>>336029038
Believe it or not, inter-species relationships is very common in the wild.
A lot of species are very compatible with each other.
Likewise, on the other side, some animals in the same species aren't even compatible with others within.
"Species" in general is a very blurry line that tends to end at visuals as you go deeper.
There are some obvious exceptions when the genetics get wildly far away from each other.
You won't get a human impregnating a lizard, for example.
Might need to wait a few thousand years when the global temperature explodes again so lizards can grow huge again.
>you still won't get to ride a T-rex because you will be dust distributed amongst several million insects.
DNA itself seems to be the lowest-energy state for self-organizing systems, as well as the most stable.
We have created higher-energy DNA strands, even ones with metal backbones instead of sugars.
So we know that it could take on different forms given the right conditions.
>>336025406
>has yet to fuck with its fanbase
t. jewhan
>>336052654
t. based Alex
>>336025406
>Paradox is one of those game developers that has yet to fuck with its fan base.
Except when it has numerous times with gamebreaking dlc that's barely tested, balancing around multiplayer, putting no effort into AI and putting straits wherever they can...
Not to mention making the mention of counters on the HoI4 forums bannable, only to add them in because their shitty ones don't actually work. I won't even mention EvW.
Stellaris might get a pass simply because it isn't in a historical backdrop. There's nothing to moan over.
>>336024728
I cant wait for it to come out especially for the singleplayer since my internet is absolute shit.
>>336037094
how hte fuck do i play teutonic order storyline and shit?
>>336052654
such epic memes
>>336053339
what do you mean?
>>336053527
is that a mod? how could a country possibly be named "teutonic order" just because of knights
>>336053314
To be honest, I've went off multiplayer games these days.
I just don't have the patience for them.
Well, more competitive MP, MMOs, persistent worlds and such.
Organising times to play to prevent people speeding ahead of others in stats is a pain in the ass when everyone is working at inconsistent times.
Only MP I'd play are things like board games, humans vs AI (Killing Floor for example), shit party games at 3 in the morning because fuck it.
>>336053785
>how could a country possibly be named "teutonic order" just because of knights
Someone didn't do their history homework tdbqph
>>336053873
Whaat they named their fucking country after an ORDER?
>>336053785
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>336053968
I hope you're kidding me
>>336053968
2 large cheeesebuhgers pls and put some RESPECK up on it too
>>336053968
it's fucking badass, I wish there were some territorial Orders now. Deus vult motherfucker
>no tactical combat
>best 4X or RTS
TOP FUCKING ZOZ
it's just another faggot grand strategy game for autists
>>336054034
autist
>>336053785
ok anon, time for a history lesson
The Teutons were invited into the Baltic in 1220s region by a Polish ruler to help him fight against the raids made by pagan Pruthenians (Old Prussians). They almost immediately betrayed their hosts and started to raid Poland also, all while genociding Pruthenians and settling in German colonists.
In 1240s Poland was invaded by the Mongols which threw Poland into a state of collapse and perpetual civil war. Soon Poland splintered into dozens tiny duchies. The Teutons went lenghts to ensure it stays that way. However, Teutons' encroachment was one of the main reason why Poland eventually reunited. Shortly before Poland had one king again, the Teutons made their big push and seized Polish Pomerania in 1308. They massacred the city of Gdansk (renaming it Danzig and settling in Germans), severing Poland from the sea coast. Later on, they made an attempt to conquer central Poland, something that Poland beat away only with great difficulty (1333).
The next two centuries is a state of almost permanent war, pierced by longer or shorter truces and temporary peace. Poland consolidated and started to gain the upper hand, trashing the Teutons at Grunwald in 1410. In 1466 Poland scored the decisive victory, regaining her coast and turning the remnants of the Teutons into Polish vassals. The Teutons remained the hotbed of intrigue against Poland and after several rebelions Polish king reconstructed them in 1525 as secular duchy of Prussia with his nephew as the first duke. That was the beginning of Prussia that was later to reunite Germany.
It looks like a simpler Distant Worlds: Universe
>>336054463
>The graphics aren't that shit so it's simpler
>>336054346
ah very interesting desu
>>336054463
i played distant worlds extensively and watched all of paradox stellaris streams
they are about the same complexity level, unless you wanna be complete autismo and turn off automation for the micro intensive unrewarding stuff
>>336054346
but who WERE the teutons
doesnt sound like a people
sounds like a bunch of knight dudes with swords and shit
and these people sat there for 80 years until taking over poland?
>>336054346
>that one kraut with forest camo
>that one mongolian with a fucking club
Wow, just like in my animes.
>>336054093
at least grand strategy games aren't apart of a dead genre
