Do you think it would be easier to have actual discussion about videogames on /v/ if we had thread IDs?
I keep thinking about it, and I feel like it would drastically reduce shitposting and falseflagging, or at least make it harder to do.
Would you try to have actual conversation about games again if there was less shitposting?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10090282
On that note, what are some games or other things that you wish you could talk about on /v/ but can't because of memes or shitposting?
Personally I wish I could have talked about Xenoblade Chronicles X more before it was released, but every thread was shitposted to death by CENSORSHIP shit
>>336017275
>On that note, what are some games or other things that you wish you could talk about on /v/ but can't because of memes or shitposting?
My Wii U
>>336017581
That's Nintendo in general.
>>336017275
/v/ is for shitposting and memes, if you want to actually discuss videogames try /vg/ or /vr/, or better yet a different website.
Everyone who voted yes is a reddit nigger. There's been a gradual increase in the infestation of those coons. They don't think it's anything wrong or that they should stay the fuck out. Crossbrowsers are the real problem.
/v/ is pretty much a lost cause at this point.
I wouldn't want IDs, but I do agree they'd kill off a lot of samefaggers and false flaggers.
I would appreciate thread IDs, but its not going to change that much. I mean, look at /pol/
>>336017963
>Everyone who voted yes is a reddit nigger
Or maybe there are some people that miss talking about games here.
Not everyone is a le epic shitposter like this guy >>336017963
>>336018162
>I wouldn't want IDs
Boardwide IDs would piss me off, but I don't see a problem with thread IDs
>>336017275
>what are some games or other things that you wish you could talk about on /v/ but can't because of memes or shitposting?
I wish I could bring up my Vita without the thread devolving into dumb shit
>>336018162
I'd take the IDs over shitposting any day.
At this point anything is worth a try, I'd just like to see /v/ improve a bit
But wouldn't they make almost no difference since phoneposters would just reset their IP before every post?
>>336017275
Am I fucking crazy or are those cats doing the dance from that National Aerobics video?
>>336018558
The simple solution is to ban all mobile posters.
In fact, that would be better than thread IDs.
>>336017953
>I've been here for maybe a year straight from Reddit and EVERYONE knows /v/ is just for shitposting
Jesus fuck I remember when there weren't people like this. There was a point in time when /v/ was always bad was tongue in cheek, and everyone knew it.
>>336017275
It would but the children here dont want to talk about videogames. They would either make shitposting threads and cry about how /v/ is now so "no fun allowed ;_;" or false flag regardless of the fact that everyone can see it.
>>336018792
>Jesus fuck I remember when there weren't people like this
>tfw we can never go back to 2006 /v/
Shitposting is a byproduct of the current state of the industry.
Make it so that the OP of the thread can enable ID's for his thread if he wants to.
Its so fucking simple im suprised the fuck heads that run this site havent already done it.
>>336018792
Yeah, the whole "/v/ hates video games" joke got way out of hand.
damn, this is the opposite of how I expected this poll to go, I'm proud of you /v/
I don't see any downsides in having IDs, so yes.
But even so, there would still be shitposting and falseflagging. Unfortunately, they are part of "/v/ culture".
Not only that, we have others problems too, like the huge amount of off-topic stuff that isn't removed by mods. Because of that, people don't bother with reporting since mods can't be competent.
I would love if Hiro nuke this board, leave it dead for months or even years, and then, revive it. That could resolve the problem.
>>336018996
>Make it so that the OP of the thread can enable ID's for his thread if he wants to.
I've been saying this for fucking years.
If OP wants to have an actual discussion, let him check a box that turns IDs on,
If OP wants to have a tongue in cheek thread that is inherently silly and would benefit from no IDs? Don't check the box
>>336017275
Stupid whiny meta-threads are ruining /v/ actually
>Xenoblade Chronicles
A fucking nintenshit. Go back to your nintendo approved forums if you can't just ignore the shitposting, like you are supposed to.
>>336019038
It'd still be there, but any obstacle will cut down on the number of people doing it. Half the people shitposting do it because they can do it quickly.
What if they made you log in to an account, like other sites, but when posting on the board you remained anonymous?
Wouldn't that fix things? Bans would actually hold some weight at least.
>>336019038
>Not only that, we have others problems too, like the huge amount of off-topic stuff that isn't removed by mods.
They try anon, but you have to understand that the mods can only do so much.
They're only human, and there aren't that many of them
And a large, large portion of /v/ exclusively shitposts and does it all day long.
It might seem like the mods aren't doing their jobs, but I think the problem is that the shitposters are just working way too hard to make sure that the mods can't keep up
>>336019038
>But even so, there would still be shitposting and falseflagging.
Sure, but instead of someone having to reset their IP every time they get banned, they would have to reset it every time they want to post, which would make falseflagging and shitposting WAY more inconvenient
>>336019038
>That could resolve the problem.
Confirmed for having no idea how 4chan works.
>>336019206
Accounts go against what 4chan is all about, I'd be pissed if they did that.
>>336017275
ID's make every board better
>>336019038
>he thinks the mods don't have lives and are watching /v/ 24/7
Nigga, /v/ is the fastest board on this website and theydo it for free
Its amazing that /v/ gets the level of moderation that it already gets
>>336018906
/vg/ kinda fucked it. The generals were usually more serious. With those gone, it's just the garbage. The best threads on /v/ are often the ones that don't have much to do with videogames.
The thread about lava and radiation sickness the other day for example was great.
>>336019291
You're a minority though. Many of us come from reddit, the account could be shared.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10090529
>>336019410
>/vg/ kinda fucked it. The generals were usually more serious. With those gone, it's just the garbage.
Fucking this
/vg/, /vp/, and /vr/ should be merged back into /v/
Whats the point of /v/ if you take any active communities that talk about games and force them to go to a different board?
>>336018792
the scientology and aots fags came here around 06ish and started branching out around 09 when even they realized how shit they've made /b/
because gaming is such a hot topic we're suffering from it the most
there are literally people on this board now that like MGS2, it's not even 4chan anymore
>>336019438
This has to be bait.
>>336019161
When a thread is 50% garbage you cant just ignore it, everyone jettisons and all that's left are an echo chamber of people false flagging and shouting. Don't be stupid.
>>336019438
>You're a minority though.
Only on /v/
>Many of us come from reddit, the account could be shared.
Holy fucking shit. You had better be baiting
>>336017581
Bloodborne always gets bonbarded with retardation when America is out of school.
>>336019549
Why are you answering if you actually think it's baiting?
>>336019438
>Many of us come from reddit, the account could be shared.
>>336019038
>problems too, like the huge amount of off-topic stuff that isn't removed by mods
off-topic threads are the best threads on /v/ by a mile
>>336019410
But those sort of emergent threads have always been a thing and aren't the problem. That kind of shit is what makes 4chan great, not the epic memepocalypse garbage,mans everyone who's been here for more than a couple of years knows it.
>>336019549
>>336019573
I spot many fellow redditors posting. The images they post never get traction outside of popular subreddits. It's pretty easy to see who is who.
>>336019709
I get that they can be fun, but I really wish you people would just go to different boards if you don't want to talk about games.
There are too many newfags that exclusively browse /v/ and spend all day trying to skirt around the rules and talk about everything and anything but videogames
>>336019769
Anon pls, just stop.
If you like reddit so much you should honestly just stay there.
>>336019494
Didn't people always like MGS2? I thought WoW was the game everyone hated.
May as well try IDs but you can't stop shitposters that easily. /v/ is just too big these days.
>>336019771
but the beauty of those threads is organically finding another common interest with people you already share a different interest with
it's like hanging out with friends to play vidya but getting onto a completely different topic of conversation and having a blast
going to specifically seek it out somewhere else takes away some of the magic
>>336019751
And to further elaborate, those sorts of threads are like icing on a cake, when the cake was made of video games threads. But when the majority of cake become fucking garbage, people live for those moments of sweet, sweet icing.
>>336020038
>Didn't people always like MGS2? I thought WoW was the game everyone hated.
The MGS2 wound was still relatively fresh in 2006, back then people still thought OoT was the best game ever for real, I remember getting in frequent arguments with zelda fans in the timeline threads about how Majora's Mask was better
>>336018504
IDs would not shit shitposting
>>336019494
Fuck off MGS2 haters were stupid fucks back then and still are now. Literally a bunch of 12 year olds crying about muh snake
>>336020104
Its fun when its actually kind of related to games like the Lava and Radiation threads, since many many games involve both of those things.
But completely off topic shit like posting comics about SJWs or BLACKED or Youtube channels, that shit is just blatantly not videogames
>>336020159
They would slow it down though.
If someone wanted to falseflag and samefag in a thread, he would essentially need to ban evade for every post, not just when he gets banned.
That would make it WAY more annoying to shitpost on /v/
>>336019554
Oh boy, using extremes to showcase an argument when right now most of the threads in the front page are game-related in some wayor another.
Hide the thread, make a thread on your own. But put some effort, because clearly your shitty games aren't interesting enough for people to actually discuss it.
Don't be stupid.
>want to start vidya thread
>regardless of what image I post, the thread will get derailed in one way or another
>abandon the idea
The only winning move is to not play.
But yeah, IDs, could help us out a bit.
I want to go back to talking aboit the 3DS without fags bringing up censorship every thread.
Nintendo's been doing this for decades for fuck's sake. I just want to enjoy vidya, even if a few costumes get altered.
>>336018792
>Jesus fuck I remember when there weren't people like this.
I've been here since like 2006, but I barely posted back then. /v/ has been getting incrementally worse each year, that anyone can tell you.
>>336020476
>Tfw I started lurking in 2006 but didn't start actively posting until 3-4 years later
Why does it feel like most new users just hop right into shitposting?
Is it because they see all of those /v/ screencaps plastered all over the internet and they think they know what this place is about already so they just act retarded?
>>336017275
How do you even define shitposting? A post you don't like?
Giving any kind of identity on an anonymous forum kills the entire point of it.
>>336019492
Fuck no, I can actually go to those other boards to talk about a video game with /v/ acting as a containment board. If those topics were back on /v/ they would get shitposted to oblivion.
>>336020620
because shitposting is fun and there are no rules that you have to lurk for a certain amount of time before posting except the ones that elitist idiots like to pretend exist
>>336020621
Check the FAQ.
>Shitposting is "knowingly contributing low quality, off-topic, or ill intentioned posts."
>>336017275
>Is shitposting ruining game discussion
im not kidding you need to kill yourself literally right now
>>336019263
The pure will most shitposters have overcomes that inconvenience.
>>336020890
>Thinking someone should die because they want video game discussion on a video game board
Woah, aren't you just the edgiest little shit?
>>336020621
You'd still be anonymous, idiot. The only difference is you can tell anons apart in individual threads. You won't keep the same ID 24/7.
>>336020834
What if someone genuinely don't consider a post of theirs low quality?
>>336018668
RIP Clover
>>336021035
Then they're just a low quality poster
But if they have good intentions and bad opinions they should just lurk more.
But we all know that shitposters do it on purpose.
/vg/ is decent for recent games, most generals either die or devolve in waifu-tripfag-shitposting
>>336020752
>because shitposting is fun
>Smash Bros
>Street Fighter
>Age of Empires
>Fire Emblem
>Bravely Default
it is impossible to actually talk about these on /v/ anymore and I hate it.
>>336021130
this, i tried to get into /vg/ but the amount of game discussions that turn into waifu threads the moment someonce posts "best girl" is pretty ridiculous
>>336020621
>How do you even define shitposting
>Saying how shit a game is while simultaneously shilling the game they think you should play instead.
It's fine to say the game is shit, but holy fuck don't shill for another company while you do it.
>You fell for the X meme
>PC master race posts in games that probably won't ever come to PC
>Any system thread being shitted up by other system fanboys
>Censorship posts in threads that try to legitimately discuss the game.
>>336021386
4chan is a shit place to talk about things in general.
>>336021534
Its that kind of attitude that makes your statement true
The problem these days is that everyone that comes here, does so with a "this place is shit anyway, the only reason people use 4chan is for memes and shitposting" mentality
>>336017275
You don't need IDs, because you can tell from miles away who's shitposting and who's just a retard. You need people to learn no to respond to every fucking post that triggers them.
>>336021748
FUCKING THIS
have people not heard the term "don't feed the trolls"?
>>336021748
This, and ban mobile posting. My friend won't stop hitting with memes because he just looks at 4chan all day at work.
>>336017275
when will you fucking crybabies stay in your containment board?
>>>/qa/
>>336017275
Not related to your question but I propose Dark Souls containment board
>>336017275
trial basis to see where it goes. the shitposting is just so awful lately i think i never saw /v/ this low
>>336019263
it didn't work very well on /pol/. the place is still so ass compared to /v/
>>336022098
>p-please dont take away my memes :(
>>336017275
Game discussion ruined videogames.
>>336021748
>You need people to learn no to respond to every fucking post that triggers them.
At this point I believe that shitposters and newfags are the only people that respond to shitposters.
>>336021748
>You need people to learn no to respond to every fucking post that triggers them.
ProTip: The shitposters just reply to themselves and pretend to be 4-5 people per thread until they start baiting other people as well.
This is why IDs would be so handy. As soon as they ban evade they lose the original ID. They can't pretend to be more than two people at most because people would know that they're just changing their IP every post if they try to actually respond to people
>>336022838
As much as I hate shitposting, ID's would be the worst thing to happen to this site since cuckposting
>>336023582
>ID's would be the worst thing to happen to this site
A lot of other board already have IDs and it just made things better
Thread IDs (as in not board wide, you would get a new ID for each thread), just make it so you can keep track of who is posting what in a thread, which would help people spot shitposters and force users to actually try and have conversations instead of memeing all over each other
>>336023582
Why?
>>336023903
Because people would point out his shitposting and epic memes. He doesnt actually hate shitposting.
Thread IDs could work for a while to prevent falseflagging, but once someone remembers they have a phone capable of mobileposting, the benefit of IDs is lost.
Hell, I still say give it a shot anyway. This board is at its worst right now.
>>336024807
>but once someone remembers they have a phone capable of mobileposting, the benefit of IDs is lost.
It still essentially forces them to ban evade after every post, rather than every time they get banned.
Shitposting wouldn't be quite as much fun if you had to reset your phone in between every single "ITS NO FAIR" "DELETE THIS" "Now that the dust has settled" "What are some games where I can..."
>45 out of 55 voters at the very least want to try out thread IDs
Damn, I wonder what the results would look like if this poll was sticky'd for a day
>>336021386
You mean the same street fighter with a thread with over 300 posts right now?
>>336017275
>thinking they matter now that phones exist
It's so easy to change your IP, it'll only cause more confusion.
>>336025653
If we had IDs I could ignore you
>>336025854I genuinely believe they should ban phoneposting on 4chan
>>336017275
You know you could always go to any other chan with ID, right?
cripplechan, 421-1chan, materchan.
You are not forced to stay here, you could just go away to another version of /v/ somewhere else. They even have your ID system there and shitposting is still rampant.
>>336025989
>You are not forced to stay here, you could just go away to another version of /v/ somewhere else.
No thank you, I've been on 4chan since 2006 and plan to stay here.
And of course cripplechan still has shitposting, its entire userbase consists of shitposters
>>336021386
>All these games have giant threads on /v/
>Some of them exist right now
Oh yeah, it sure is impossible to have a discussion.
>>336017275
Yes, its not just the shit poster, it is you the stupid fuck that always respond to the shitpost and don't hide the post and ignore it.
>>336026107
Which, I assume, includes OP himself, that gets buttblasted when someone is shitposting instead of sighing, rolling his eyes, hiding and reporting.
>>336026107
>>it is you the stupid fuck that always respond to the shitpost and don't hide the post and ignore it.
>he doesn't know that most shitposters just pretend to be 4-5 different people and will have arguments with themselves
>>336026060
>No thank you, I've been on 4chan since 2006 and plan to stay here.
Good, then you should be glad knowing that /v/ will never be as bad as 2009/2010 /v/.
>>336026280
Less than 20% of the voters are against thread IDs
Obviously OP isn't the only one that is sick of /v/s rampant shitposters and falseflaggers
>Wanting higher moderation
>On /v/
Fuck no, I got banned twice in the past six days just for answering someones question in a thread but it was "deemed" off-topic"
The moderation here is out of control and should just stick to threads, not thread posts.
>>336017275
>wanting to discuss the trash that was xenoblade X
you deserve to be shitposted
>>336026369
Personally I feel like the GG shitstorm was the worst /v/ has ever been,
What happened in 2009-2010? TORtanic? That was 7 years ago, so you're going to have to give me one of the shitposting landmarks
>>336026382
>Making up a statistic
>Getting angry because one of your threads had a discussion about censorship that was relevant to the game.
>>336026451
Not liking the game was fine, but I just wanted to talk about how cool the monsters and world looked, but every thread devolved into REEEE NINTENDO NEEDS TO BE STOPPED
THIS CAN'T KEEP HAPPENING, WHY DOES NINTENDO HATE FUN. FUCK CENSORSHIP THIS IS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE.
Every
Fucking
Thread
This went on up until the game was released.
Want to talk about censorship? Fine, whatever. But keep it to one thread. Don't shitpost literally every thread about that game for 2 months straight
>>336026543
>Making up a statistic
The strawpoll is in the fucking OP
Only 17% have voted "No"
>>336017275
If you don't like shitposting, go discuss shit on Reddit you fucking faggot. ID's are cancer.
>>336026719
Maybe, just maybe, people are actually pissed about it and the games own quailties aren't enough for most people to ignore the censoring?
Maybe, just maybe you should have some self-respect and take those complaints in stride and keep on talking if you actually enjoy the game.
If you can't handle gaming discussion without people hating on your game in some way or another, go somewhere else.
>>336026820
>d-dont take my memes and s-shitposting away reeee
>>336017275
Ban anyone that's been on reddit in the last 7 days
>>336026820
>If you don't like shitposting, go discuss shit on Reddit you fucking faggot.
Sorry, unlike you I don't use Reddit.
I don't have the privilege of just shitposting on 4chan and acting like a retard in every thread, just to go to a different website to act like an actual person,
I've been using this website for over 10 years and I don't plan to stop just because you think its hilarious to falseflag as a fanboy so that you can get (you)s from other falseflaggers that then bait replies from other shitposters that are falseflagging as angry fanboys etc..
>>336026719
Why should I keep it in one thread? Do you own the board or thread? Did Hiroshima issue a one censorhip thread limit?
Fuck off, you whiny bitch.
>>336026968
>Maybe, just maybe, people are actually pissed about it and the games own quailties aren't enough for most people to ignore the censoring?
You and I both know thats not true and there was most likely just 4-5 very dedicated shitposters, and half of them probably didn't even care and just liked derailing threads.
>>336027041
I don't use Reddit either. I prefer shitposting.
>>336027016
Yeah, pretty much.
>>336027067
>Why should I keep it in one thread?
Why would you derail every thread?
What kind of literal child actual thinks "IF I DON'T LIKE IT THEN NO ONE CAN!"
Are you actually autistic?
>>336027041
>Has been around for 10 years
>Still gets pissed by shitposting instead of hiding and reporting
/a/ learned that years ago already, you should have gotten it by now, you idiot.
>>336026526
>What happened in 2009-2010?
The mods abandoned this board, and the majority of the threads on the front page weren't video games. There were double threads, there were /r9k/ threads, bait threads, 4am threads, and threads about how shitty /v/ has become. And when you did find a video game related thread, they were either a video game general that had all the bad things about generals, or a Pokemon general since Pokemon took up a quarter of this board. You couldn't really make a new thread on /v/ because it just got pushed away by these giant off-topic and general thread.
>>336027271
>Still gets pissed by shitposting instead of hiding and reporting
Reporting only gets so much done, and hiding threads only works when you're not already actively talking to people in a thread before it starts getting derailed.
I'm not even mad about anything, I just think its about time something about /v/ changed to try and stop some of the shitposting.
I get that some of you autists just like pretending to be retarded on the internet, but there are better boards for that, like an actual shitposting board.
>>336027041
>10 years
>Still replying to bait
Wait... am I being baited?
I don't even know anymore.
>>336027108
Do I?
Don't put words in my mouth, you condescending ass. Nintendo has beem screwing up for a while now and they deserve to get shit in their games threads.
Unless you are a mod, you can't say anything for sure and is just butthurt. From MY point of view.
>>336027181
>False equivalency
Wooo, this thread is ripe with argument fallacies. I'm just saying they DON'T have to limit their arguments if they don't want to.
if it's actual shitposting, report,or go whine with the mods on irc chat.
>>336027140
>I prefer shitposting.
Neo-/v/ isn't real they said.
>>336027523
This is a thread about shitposting and bait
Its on topic discussion
>>336027520
But you could always ignore.
AND IT DOES HELP WHILE A THREAD IS STILL UP, YOU LYING CUNT. I know for a fact mods delete singular posts in threads and it's your own damn fault if you complain about it instead of just going on with the discussion.
Create a thicker skin and stop fucking lying about how things work here.
>>336027550
>I'm just saying they DON'T have to limit their arguments
>arguments
They literally just spam the same images and shit in every thread they can find about that game, and then start replying to people with the same tired old bait and then reply to themselves pretending to be baited
When the CENSORSHIP people decide they want to derail topics, they do it.
In fact, they organize on cripplechan much like the GG people did. Its actual shitposting, its organized shitposting for the sake of derailing threads and trying to start another internet activism movement now that GG is dead.
>>336018847
You can't catch me.
>>336027825
Spam is shitposting, that's reportable. If you aren't reporting, you are being stupid and that's a moderation issue if they aren't, which wouldn't be fixed by IDs.
You'd just know exactly therere's a shitposter while mods ignore it. Like they've been doing for years.
You are again exagerating or straight up lying to me because I have created several discussion threads along the years where spam was deleted and banned appropratelly when abused several times.
It still sounds like you are assblasted that the issues about censoring outshine any qualities the game may have for the maority of people and making this a board issue is overblown at the very least.
>being anti-anonymity on 4chan
Go back to the big R normalcucks
>>336028163
>It still sounds like you are assblasted that the issues about censoring outshine any qualities the game may have for the maority of people
If you genuinely believe that more people care about something that has been happening since the 80s (ie: Localization), then they do about the games themselves, then I don't know what to say.
Maybe its because you personally feel very strongly about loli outfits being altered, if so then whatever, thats your deal. But personally I think its very obvious that there is a very small vocal minority that is against this shit, and a much much larger silent majority that doesn't give a shit and would just like to talk/read about a game and not babby's first political issues
>>336028408
>anti-anonymity
Thread IDs and Board IDs are two different things
>>336028408
>uses cuck
>tells people to go back to reddit
>is against an antishitposting measure
Wew, what a fucking surprise
>>336017275
>i made a shitty and got no replies QQ
You are suppose to bring something to the table with your thread if you want people to discuss it. Dump concept art, post development histories, if anything "shitposters" are giving free bumps to your thread about a dead game.
>>336027108
Make fun of me all you want, but as minor as XCX's censorship was, it did affect the gameplay for me. Lyn's altered armor and outfits were so ugly, I only used her for story missions.
In a game where you can equip armor for stats and still wear whatever you want over it, butchering a main character's wardrobe in fear of feigned outrage is both sad and ironic.
If you don't like it, don't use it. I had no such choice, thanks to NoA (and I was constantly reminded of that fact).
>meta threads`
I don't believe people are intentionally shitposting most of the time, like some anons have proposed.
I believe most people here never had a civilised discussion in their life, nor have they ever gotten into a serious argument where people actually care about raising points.
I believe most posters here are retards. I respond to them because: a) I want to train my patience, b) it's an exercise in debunking pseudo-logical thinking and pointing out flaws within, c) occasionally some of them will raise a good point and I'll have to rethink my statements.
But yes, thread IDs would curb down the shitposts, even better if they're optional. Mobile posting purge might be a bit overkill but still doable. Having permanent accounts however, would kill this fucking site and I say this as a guy who's been watching his tongue for the past 7 years.
After the Star Fox Zero 'controversy' yeah, I'd say so. Keep actual discussion of games on Based Miiverse.
Seeing people there call out faggots who can't figure out simple controls was a nice change of pace from the constant whining here from people who have never touched a Wii U.
>>336028910
This one isn't just "remember when /v/ was better guys?"
Its pretty relevant, shitposting is reaching a peak recently and I know a lot of people that have just dropped 4chan all together because discussion is dead and there is nothing left but reddit memes and falseflagging
>>336028643
>antishitposting measure
We already have an antishitposting measure, it's called the fucking report button. If the janitors/mods aren't busy jerking off to blacked and posting ragefaces on facebook, they'd ban someone who's samefagging and shitting up a thread.
Anonymity is the point of imageboard-type sites you retard.
>>336028541
You'd be surprised on how many people care about quality control now that companies can't jjust ignore complaints due to social media and assorted.
And also you are completely ignoring the issue of them changing dialogue and completely re-qriting some characters, for example in the lastest Fire Emblem game?
I bring up again. Maybe, just maybe, people are fed up with being fed shit and want more quailty control on their "localization" even more so when other companies, like Xseed, showed that it's completely possible to translate japanese games without sacrificing context or content.
And shitty localizations have been give shit for year, nintentoddler. I can still remember the original persona release with the blackface kid and FFT original shitti translation.
You just happen to be in a part of the internet where people care about those issues and you are simply downplaying its weigth because YOU disregard it as pointless and a minor issue.
You are a condescending idiot that is trying to push a system that isn't require on /v/ because it hurts your ability to push your opinion and disregard others opinions, so you can label people you don't agree with as shitposters.
>>336027271
I see so much stuff I consider shitposting I'm actually afraid of using reports on them all because of an overuse ban.
I just keep it to stuff that gets posted regularly to provoke shitflinging from participants, like that "SOULSTORM IS BEST 40K GAME" picture that gets reposted in most 40k threads.
>>336029197
>Reaching a peak
Any hard proof on that, son? besides anecdottal experiences?
I'm okay with thread ID's like /pol/ & disabling posting for mobile users so they can only lurk.
>>336029318
But that is arguable and actually true if you are more into modding games, since Soulstorm had a much bigger modding community.
Dark Crusade is still better, but there are good arguments for Soulstorm's superiority.
>>336029302
>You are a condescending idiot that is trying to push a system that isn't require on /v/ because it hurts your ability to push your opinion and disregard others opinions, so you can label people you don't agree with as shitposters.
How would being able to see that instead of what seems like 10 people "Disagreeing with me" its actually just 1 very dedicated guy help me "Push my opinion and disregard others"
Yeah, if someone is spamming his shit and generally sperging out in a thread instead of actually talking about something, thats low quality posting and is the actual definition of shitposting.
Just because /v/ has been 90% shitposts for a long time doesn't mean it isn't shitposting. Its like how everyone kicked and screamed back when dubs were removed "B-B-BUT ITS PART OF /v/ CULTURE!"
What's with the hate for mobile posters? I browse 4chan on my phone at work a lot and I don't ever shitpost. In fact I hate shitposting and memes in general. I just want to converse about video games. If I do it from my phone then what is the problem?
>>336029960
>One very dedicated guy
Proof? I had that happen to me and the guy was banned after I reported him several times.
And AGAIN, adding IDs wouldn't stop the shitposting, because stopping shitposting is a mod job and IDs would just encourage shitty self policy, that would lead to exclusion, which would lead to even shittier circlejerks.
You are only throwing around actual issues examples into a non-issue. Dubs were a mess and the shitposting now is nowhere near the amount of shitposting then.
Right now, 80% of the thread on the main page are game related and this shitty meta thread is actually not helping gaming discussion.
>>336030381
>What's with the hate for mobile posters?
They are by far the most active shitposters and ban evaders. This isn't even an opinion, its a straight up fact.
>I just want to converse about video games. If I do it from my phone then what is the problem?
Nothing, the problem is that for every 1 guy like you, there are 500-1,000 shitposters that are just ban evading every 5-10 minutes and reposting their oh so funny Pepes and Wojacks
>>336030409
>And AGAIN, adding IDs wouldn't stop the shitposting, because stopping shitposting is a mod job
Its pretty fucking obvious that it wouldn't outright stop it, but it would help people see when someone is just shitposting, and it would make shitposting more tedious and annoying since you would essentially need to go through the ban evasion process between every post instead of just when you get banned
>>336030668
You really need help recognizing shitposters since you are talking with one. If you want to have actual game discussion, thread IDs have no actual downsides. Only people opposing them are those who actually want to shitpost and are mortally afraid if ANYTHING that would make it more difficult is implemented.
>>336017275
I don't know if you're new or something, but this is how it works:
/v/ was turned into a containment board by moot. As he said before, /v/ has the easiest rules. You talk about video games. Now, since every teen here thinks it's "EPIC" to use ironic shitposting as their own passive-aggressive way of letting out their angst, they find it easy to ruin every topic at all times with memes and shitposts.
So then, what did moot and his team do? They made /vg/. The general opinion of the average /v/ user is that /vg/ is a place for "circlejerks", but in reality, they just keep things on topic and that angers the users here because /vg/ is what will never be. It's a place where original content is born from on-topic discussion, and has people that are actually passionate about the game series they like to follow and such. While on /v/, everything is negative or just memes and shitposts, never really having any meaning to anything.
So yes, shitposting does ruin discussion. No, it doesn't need to get better. /v/ is the containment board for all shitposts, just like moot wanted. Even the top tier "shitpost" boards like /tv/ and /sp/ stay on topic for quite some time.
/v/ has actually calmed down over the last two or so years. There was a time where /v/ was actually not vidya at all, and for every ONE video game thread, there were ten off topic threads that actually stayed alive, presumably due to mods being overworked by the massive shitpost wave.
I wish for no game to be discussed on /v/, because that's not what /v/ is for. You can make a general, or find one, on /vg/ and have a long lasting discussion.
Hell, the only reason I'm even here is because I just randomly look for vidya pictures here. I'm getting the fuck out after about 10 more minutes. And so should you.
>>336031574
>You can make a general, or find one, on /vg/ and have a long lasting discussion.
Untrue, you can't discuss old or niche games on /vg/
I tried making a Duelyst thread on there a few days ago and it got 2 replies before 404ing
>>336032125
That is why /vr/ exists anon.
>>336030527
>Straight up fact
Proof?
>>336031574
Oh yeah, I'm sure everybody in katawa shoujo general, warframe general, kerbal space program general, hearthstone general are still all passionate about games.
They are more circlejerking the /v/ yes and the fact that their memes and shitposting are game related doesn't make them any less shitposting.
I'm glad that your wishes are pointless in this discussion, where you added nothing to it.
>>336032274
>Duelyst
>/vr/
Oh wait, you are just a babbling moron. Nevermind.
>>336017275
Personally, I think these shitty meta threads are ruining /v/. Complaining about shitposting is just as stupid as shitposting, you're just clogging the catalogue with a different brand of off topic retardation.
>>336032932
Seems to me like OP has a point and roughly 4 in 5 people so far agree with him, meanwhile the 1 guy that disagreed is in this thread telling people to kill themselves, go back to reddit, and other shit.
>>336017953
>Try /vg/
This has to die. /vg/ generals are nothing but isolated circlejerks that eventually become a shitpost dumping ground for inner circles, especially for MMOs and ASSFAGGOTS.
There is no good way for human beings to communicate, digitally or in person. Just accept that this is probably the best you're going to get when it comes to sometimes discussing video games or just leave!
>>336031574
/v/ is SUPPOSED to be for everything that isn't big enough to warrant a general, and isn't old enough to go to /vr/
But as you have said, its currently such a shitty board that its pretty much exclusively for shitposting.
Personally I think IDs might help that
>>336017275
Shitposting is integral to 4chan these days. There's lots of discussion in generals, that's where I usually go if I'm not looking for random info or suggestions or funnies or whatever
>>336033040
>20 people disagree
>27 are not 100% sure
>1 guy disagreeing
The circle jerking has already started. And your statement doesn't even make sense, why would someone in favor of full anonimity go to reddit, you shitposter.
>>336033532
>Shitposting is integral to 4chan these days.
People said the same thing about dubs back when those were removed.
Shitposters just love shitposting, that doesn't mean its what 4chan is for
>>336033690
>why would someone in favor of full anonimity go to reddit, you shitposter.
Because if 4chan had IDs shitposting wouldn't be as fun. He comes here to shitpost and parrot memes and is on his best behavior while he is on reddit because he might lose his upboats if he gets banned.
Its not as if thread IDs don't already exist on 4chan, I think its about time /v/ had them on a trial basis
I love talking about nintendo.
Especially since I hacked my 3ds.
>>336033690
>1 guy disagreeing
He meant the other 1 guy from the 4/5
>>336031574
/vg/ is full of forced memes, waifufaggotry and circlejerking. I would say even worse than /v/
>>336017275
My biggest gripe are the console wars. Why do folks feel the need to argue about the platforms they play their games on instead of just enjoying playing games? You can tell that a lot of it is just trolls trolling trolls, so why do they bother?
Oh wait, le trolling is a art.
>>336034331
>used to browse a whole bunch of generals and discuss the game
>now all but one of them has gone to shit
>the one that hasn't is on /vr/, not /vg/
/v/ is hell, but whatever.
Pictured here are 2 turrets.
Any questions?
>>336034667
I mean, the gulag was fun but 90% were memes and e-celeb shit. I don't even play DotA anymore but I wish I had the video were a commentator says "sitting in the back like a cuckold" in a game with thousands of viewers
Mobile poster here.
Please ban all mobile posters.
>>336035183
Honestly, I think its fairly obvious that Mobile posters shouldn't be allowed to post without 4chan+ but should be able to lurk freely
>>336031574
Generals can run out of discussion topics and turn into autistic waifu circlejerks. You also have no idea why /vg/ was made so it's clear why you defend it
>>336019438
>Many of us come from reddit
>>336034762
The shit you find randomly...
Where are your guns?
>>336037129And for the uninformed, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFBVkXir2qs
>>336019438
>Many of us come from reddit
kill yourself newfag nigger
>>336034331
>I would say even worse than /v/
lets not get crazy now
>>336026445
If you have ever been banned on any of these boards for anything other than CP or raid bullshit you are a full on fucktard who needs to go back to school since you obviously aren't capable of playing videogames right.
>>336026445
>Fuck no, I got banned twice in the past six days just for answering someones question in a thread but it was "deemed" off-topic"
Either post what you got banned for or no one will believe you.
Also, if the ban actually went through you probably were being a shitposter, at most I get a warning
>>336017275
>IDs
>4chan
Yeah, let's ruin the concept a little more. Fucking imbecile.
>>336019642
I love Bloodborne and always assume goldenface retards and people who unironically use the term "PCuck" have not played the game at all and only want to partake in sociopathic platform war bullshit
>>336017275
>Is shitposting ruining game discussion?
Why is this even a question? Granted, it's more you guys posting ass and titty threads instead of actually talking about games, but that's part of the shitposting, I think
>implying shitposting will be fixed with thread ID's
Oh wow you canfilter them for this specific thread.
I'll tell you what will fix shitposting; more janitors and moderators. Turn them loose and let them ban over the smallest infraction; get rid of culture faggots and the retards who've treated this board like /b/ 2.0 for nearly a decade.
>>336041343
They're already on a lot of boards and have been for a long time.
Try lurking other boards a bit, /v/ isn't the only board on here. Maybe you'll find a board you like and stop posting off topic threads on /v/
>>336041387
>posting ass and titty threads instead of actually talking about games
Fucking this. Metroid threads and even some Dragon Quest threads either start out as or turn into lewd and suggestive fan art dumps with no actual discussion about the game.
>>336042417
>You will never get to actually talk about Skullgirls on /v/
>>336042675
>>336042417
>>336041387
>I'm not the only person on /v/ that wishes lewd threads and lewd posters would just fuck off
Holy shit, I thought I was alone.
Why the fuck are they even here anymore now that /aco/ is a thing?
This is a SFW board, why do they even bother trying to start lewd threads here? And lewd posters just kill the thread faster by dumping his fap folder while no one replies or cares
>all this gentrification
Reddit fuck off
>>336043232
Whats the problem, worried shitposting won't be as easy if you get an ID?
>>336044348
I don't see the problem with ID's. You're still anonymous, but now you're anonymous #891387
Why are so many people in this thread acting as if Thread and Board IDs haven't been a thing for a long ass time on 4chan?
>>336044615
Exactly, it just means that you can't samefag your own posts and argue with yourself to derail threads.
I mean, you technically can, but it won't be as easy or work as well, and you'll essentially have to ban evade between every post
>>336042931
>This is a SFW board
there was a point where there was no such thing because this is 4CHAN
after /l/ was deleted, a lot of loli posting moved to /v/ and /a/, and nobody cared. Only if it was CP.
>>336018162
Except IDs make it even easier to samefag
>>336044615
having a number doesnt make you anonymous anymorei have a greasemonkey script that assigns postid's to people here so none of you are truly anonymous anyway
>>336044637
Because they're new to 4chan and only main one or two boards at best.
>>336044815
>there was a point where there was no such thing because this is 4CHAN
The reason SFW boards exist is because not every board needs to be about porn.
If porn was allowed on /v/ every thread would be full of it, and the catalogue would be clogged with porn threads.
Porn ALWAYS chokes out actual discussion.
>>336044878
>Except IDs make it even easier to samefag
Not at all.
Once you ban evade to get a new ID, your old one is lost forever.
Eventually people will notice that the shitposting reply chains all involve nothing but unique IDs for some strange reason.
It will also be a lot more of a pain in the ass then it is right now since they would need to reset their phone/router between every single post
>>336039498
For the most parts it is. There are games I can only talk about on /v/ because they're basically impossible to talk about on /vg/. When it's the otherway around it's usually online games or mobile crap.
>>336045115
>Eventually people will notice that the shitposting reply chains all involve nothing but unique IDs for some strange reason.
That's..... not how it works at all.
If anything, it just gives people with dynamic IPs or multiple IPs (also see: Ban Evaders) a greater advantage over other posters by starting threads, and then changing IDs so that no one calls them out on samefagging their own threads.
It's an extremely effective technique. See: /pol/
Trust me: IDs don't provide anything other than a false sense of security. The people who are truly shitting up the board will be able to continue what they're doing, but won't be called out on it.
>>336045115
I don't think you've ever tried to samefag using more than one IP.
You don't have to reset your phone or router for every single post while doing it.
>>336045348
So, it fucks over your average shitposter, and all that is left is the true autists that would never have stopped no matter what anyway because shitposting in 4chan is literally all they have in life?
Sounds like a good deal to me
I'd take way less shitposting over all of the shitposting
>>336045489
>I don't think you've ever tried to samefag using more than one IP.
You're right, I haven't, I'm not a shitposter and don't go out of my way to shit up threads while pretending to be multiple posters
>>336045519
Except you're trading the "average shitposter" (who rarely uses samefagging to shitpost) for giving those trueautists way more power to shitpost with. The only way to decrease shitposting on /v/ is to literally purge the amount of traffic from this board.
>>336045605
You probably shouldn't post like you know what you're talking about then. Especially when actual shitposters are telling you how they've abused it.
>>336017275
I think anonymity is a mistake and the idea of anonymous image boards is a failure. Yeah, I'd be for ID's and even a fucking account system. None of this would be needed if /v/ had the mods a board its size needs, and didn't have mods that'll turn a blind eye to tons of disruptive shit. If the following rules were actually followed
>keep /pol/ shit in /pol/
>no furshit out of /b/ or /trash/
My browsing experience would increase a thousand times
>>336033160
Haha yes anon, wink wink, /vg/ is terrible you should not go, stay on superior /v/
>>336045874
Well, thats what the trial period would be for, isn't it?
I still think it might help
>>336019438
People shit on this guy but it's just to fit in. By far the majority of /v/ at least visits reddit.
What did you think would happen when you went "HEY REDDIT, YOUR MODS ARE DAMN SJWS COME TO 4CHAN WITH US" a couple years ago?
Kirby threads are one of the rare threads where you can just talk about the game. I'm glad people there don't fall for the bullshit shitposting that happens every once in a while.
>>336046735
>By far the majority of /v/ at least visits reddit.
>this is what people from reddit actually believe
>>336041150
Nah, mods here will ban for clear favoritism reasons. I remember getting banned many times when splatoon was released solely because I tried to form an argument about the game devoid of shitty fallacies. Of course, the people screaming shitposter, faggot, bait etc didn't get a ban.
Sometimes you're going to run into the pro /pol/ mod or /pro/ furry mod or nintendo fanboy mod or valve fanboy mod and your ass is gonna get banned for not aligning with their taste
>>336046959
Generally the people from reddit are the ones telling others to go back and screaming they aren't 4chan enough. So you know, like 90% of /pol/
>>336017275
/v/ has been invaded in recent times by avid shitposters, I believe IDs would greatly aid in curtailing /v/'s current decline. If anyone is hesitant on the matter, a trial run would be the best way to test it out and determine the results from there.
>>336046629
I think you are a mistake.
>>336046629
>I think anonymity is a mistake and the idea of anonymous image boards is a failure.
naw you were a mistake and your a failure you dumb faggot
the problem is the people and how sensitive fags are now that they need to reply to shitposting.
like how fucking hard is it genuinely to self moderate and just fucking ignore the shitposting all together instead of fucking responding to it?
Not much really unless one is socially inept or has some sort of mental disorder. Like fuck its the people who have failed not the board since its the people being sensitive little nellys and unable to ignore shit is what causes so much shit.
night /v/ still alright since alot of aericas kiddos are asleep and uk brats to busy with mudslimes to shitpost on force
>>336047418
>and how sensitive fags are now that they need to reply to shitposting.
AGAIN
For like the 50th time in this thread
A lot of the time, people DON'T reply to shitposters, and the shitposters just reply to themselves.
At this point I'm starting to think anyone that says "haha, just don't reply xD" is shitposting themselves
>>336047418
>dude why can't you just hide me shitposting and spamming the thread
Why should I have to? How about we just have actual enforced rules like any other sites instead of ebin /b/ for the 11 year old retards who got to get out what they can't say on facebook. Also self moderation is shit when the board gets overrun and the majority of the board is now outsiders from other sites. You now have people trying to "self moderate" by screaming reddit or SJW or cuck at everything they deem not 4chan enough.
>>336047559
That was obvious like a decade ago, anon. The people who tell you to ignore shit are generally the ones posting it and simply don't want you to bother them when they shitpost
>>336046629
I'm fine with thread IDs and agree with you in regards to mods from my experience a number of them are incapable or serving their own agenda.
However an account system is way too extreme. This website is meant to be anonymous, a safe haven for free speech without social consequence. If you have permanent identities linked to people it defeats the purpose of 4chan and you might as well be on literally any other website.
Fuck, I just wish we could get a bigger sample size for the poll without resorting to asking people outside of /v/ like on /qa/
150 people isn't enough to sway any opinions on this matter, but I would genuinely like to try presenting a case to the mods as to why using thread IDs on a trial basis would be a good idea
>>336048774
>a safe haven for free speech without social consequence.
Even moot has said that this is wrong.
He said multiple times that 4chan has rules, if you don't follow them you get banned, it was never about free speech, its just a place to talk about shit
>>336017275
This smells like an ook thread.
>>336048826
Perhaps you should try maintaining a thread/threads for the next few days to get a larger sample size of /v/?
>>336048774
I don't get why people think this site has free speech, it's actually way worse than most sites with names, because of groupthink. Groupthink is an actual phenomenon and when you combined it with anonymity, you make it even worse. You then have tons of people who falsely believe everyone believes and thinks how they do and tries desperately to chase off anyone who doesn't agree with them because "WE ARE ALL ONE VOICE". Anonymity is a great idea in theory it simply doesn't work with human psychology.
The point of 4chan is to be able to say what you want but I self censor myself here WAY more than absoluterly any site that has id's or names.
i think anonymity is good for kids because it lets them say things they normally would not because self consciousness about public image. people get older and frequently graduate to other communities and generally are more confident with being genuine and frank due to this experience
>>336048997
>This smells like an ook thread.
Whatever that is, I bet its a shitty meme
>>336049109
>because of groupthink
Except every other site on the internet also suffers from groupthink AND has an ID or in the case of twittter, tumblr, facebook usually your real name. So despite 4chan having groupthink and other similar things to that, it still has more free speech than almost any other website.
>>336049635
>it still has more free speech than almost any other website.
How? I can say shit on other sites as well. I simply might get called out or banned for it, exactly the same here
- ban threads that start with the same image and\or contain a very similar post to one that's been posted within a few days - /v/'s biggest problem is the same threads just get made over and over
- more active and more consistent moderation and ffs some threads are better without porn
- thread ids
- remove (you)
- bring back doubles and visible sages
>>336017275
>IDs
please, don't make /v/ anymore reddit than it already is
>>336049635
The difference is that when people have names you cannot attach this vast personality onto them. Something like "XD ALL OF /v/ IS GAY AND FURRY" wouldn't work if we had names and could actually see the people posting that shit were actually a small minority. By keeping every name the same you also make it INSANELY easy to force a mindset here. If I wanted I could pretty much force any idea or meme I want if I devoted myself to spamming and dodging bans for long enough. I mean that was the origin of "FUCK ANIME" back in 2012. One dude simply spammed it enough and all the newfags followed because they thought it was a bunch of people when it was just one
>>336049979
But /pol/ has ID's and it's the heart and soul of 4chan
>>336049979
Do you even know what a Thread ID is?
You should try browsing other boards
>>336049979
wordfilter reddit as well, people who think /v/ has turned into reddit generally have really stupid opinions and have this notion that anything that differs from the /v/ hivemind is reddit
>>336049801
Difference is that on other sites you are less likely to say shit that disagrees with the norm because you will suffer social consequences for it. On 4chan you can say anything and if people ridicule you for it you can just shrug it off. You could say something that most people on here disagree with but then the next day say something else and people will praise you. There is no long term punishment for disagreeing with the norm so you are free to say what you want.
Another thing is that even though you can't just casually reference things here that the majority disagrees with you can still reference those things if you back it up with solid argumentation. People will still shit on you but there will be one or two people that will have an actual conversation with you. Compare that to facebook, on facebook everyone avoids having actual conversations and voicing their true opinions because they know they will suffer long term consequences along with short term ones like people calling you stupid.
>>336050189
In my experience it's not even the /v/ hivemind, they expect you to adhere to another boards hivemind
Most recent indie games, really.
Though to be fair, when an indie game gets a fanbase with Let's Player faggots, it always gets a bit insufferable and I can see why people get sick of seeng it everywhere.No, not just Undertale.
>>336050487
This is why I never even bothered trying to make a thread for Hyper Light Drifter
>>336050285
>Difference is that on other sites you are less likely to say shit that disagrees with the norm because you will suffer social consequences for it.
Uh but the same is true here? I avoid ever stating my actual political or game based opinions here because they will simply be responded to with "XD KEK"
At the very least, other sites try to actual argue with you and prove you wrong. On 4chan it's just "ARE YOU KIDDING ME, YOU EXPECT ME TO HAVE ANYTHING BUT A CIRCLEJERK OF MY OPINIONS? YOU KEK"
I mean you can voice your opinions but you will literally get pounced on by 10 kids screaming fallacies and memes on you.
>Another thing is that even though you can't just casually reference things here that the majority disagrees with you can still reference those things if you back it up with solid argumentation
You can be banned here for saying unpopular shit if the mods think it's trolling.
>People will still shit on you but there will be one or two people that will have an actual conversation with you.
Not in my experience.
4chan is honestly the biggest circlejerk hugbox I have ever been a part of, it simply believes it isn't a hug box because it allows un-PC things.
I only come to this board to shitpost
No, moderators on this board are complete power-trippers and should not be given any more power.
>>336050719
I am 100% certain that only shitposters say this, everyone else thinks the mods don't do enough
>>336050869
i've literally never been banned in 9 years
and i've made some pretty worthless shitposts in my time
>>336050869
This. When porn threads stay up for upwards of 15 hours and you have mods defending threads with furry content, they aren't doing enough. I still see daily /pol/ shit if not hourly and at times I have like 6 furry threads hidden. Moderation here is atrocious
>>336051151
>Moderation here is atrocious
There is only so much they can do anon
/v/ is fucking fast
>>336050869
Hello Nintendo fan
