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Hardest Dark Souls Boss of All Time?
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Is it the nameless king?
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He was pretty fucking easy desu, took me 3 tries to figure out the dragon form and then 3 more tries to figure out the human form.
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Lud and Zallen was harder.
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I don't get it.

I beat him in 5 tries.


There are PLENTY of souls bosses it took more me many more attempts to beat
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>>335984283

beat him first try, people bitching about the camera are just babies

so easy to read, attacks on foot are telegraphed to fuck
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Sulyvahn is literally impossible
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>>335984557
He is litearlly Gwyn-tier if you parry him
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He is extremely slow and well-telegraphed. This fight was hyped way too much. Soul of Cinder is 10x better.
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Abyss Watchers were way harder
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but everyone on /dsg/ told me he was the hardest boss in the series

are they that bad?
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>>335984732
at one point I was this close to killing him
then I got gud
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>>335984732
>0 flasks

Ya ok bro.
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>>335984861
I'm guessing they think it's the hardest because it's easy to lock yourself out of being able to summon help.

So this was probably one of the only bosses they had to do without a player's help.
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>>335984283
Nigga
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>>335984283
he was hard my first time, but then on ng plus he was easy. killed him on my second try ng plus.
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He's only hard because you have to go through King of the Storm's slow, tedious ass first.
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>>335984916
It was my 3rd try
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>>335984283
Magic makes this guy the easiest boss in the game.
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>>335985004
literally one of the easiest bosses in the game
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>>335984998
You can lock yourself out of being able to summon for it? How?
I did it solo because I play offline but now I'm interested.
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>>335985118
I don't want to completely spoil it but an old NPC from Firelink black-crystals you out of being able to summon. If you find and kill him before ringing the bell you can summon for the boss fight fine.
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>get summoned for deacon
>people still don't know to hit the red glowing one
cucks
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I just finished deacons of the deep and now I don't know where to go. Where should I head next?
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>>335985283
It's easier to kill ALL the enemies so you don't get them poking you in the back all the time or spamming pyromancies.
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>>335985115
No.
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>>335985353
you have to buy the tower key from the old lady and open the tower door. from the roof there's a ladder that leads to a sewer area

enjoy, it's one of the most annoying places in the game ;D

>>335985383
they don't even do much damage, and my attacks do collateral damage to the surrounding deacons
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>>335985283
>help people fight molnir
>host doesn't attack his rings
>host dies to his dark fog

i swear like 15 people did this.
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>>335985383
Good luck with that on ng+7 with broken longsword.
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>>335985383
It's not really. Rush the red, back away, rush the red, back away and so forth
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>>335984283
He's only difficult because HP bloat and a Dragon to kill. If you could waltz in and take him on immediately people would knock him down to being only an okay boss.

Lothric bros and THE CHAMP are two better bosses.
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>>335984602
which bosses can you parry in this game?
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>>335985353
Go back and explore Road of Sacrifices better
>>335985502
is full of shit, you don't ever have to buy that key. That key does net you some good stuff though
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>>335984635
I got the last boss on try one right before class. Huge letdown, I have no idea what happened. I really expected phase three.
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>>335984602
>being a parrycuck
You didn't beat DS1 or 3.
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I believe his nameless cause he's the easiest boss in the game.
beaten him at Lv47 with an arcade stick
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>>335985502
>enjoy, it's one of the most annoying places in the game ;D
What are you talking about, it's short and easy.
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>>335984283
Deacons of the deep is the hardest.
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>>335984283
Had more trouble with the Pontiff.
And currently having more trouble with Soul of Cinder. I mean this guy can parry me.
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>>335984283
nope. hes bird is simply annoying but he himself is not that tough.

as far as that game goes THE CHAMPION might be the hardest. he isnt too hard either, but he can punish bad play pretty quickly.
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>>335985679
I just beat him, you can do it too anon.
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>>335985638
forgot pic
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>>335985645
I'm not just talking about the sewer familia, it leads to the childless pits, I fucking hate those zombie babies that keep spawning. FUCK.
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>>335984283
Accidentally beat him first try.
I can't even say git gud, I'm pretty sure he had a stroke halfway through his first phase.
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>>335985583
abyss watchers can be parried.
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>>335985725
the babies are easy, it's those damn fetishes that shoot toxic darts at you that's annoying, 2 shots and you're practically dead
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>>335985679
>Had more trouble with the Pontiff.
But when you knock him down about halfway his shadow comes out and telegraphs the moves for you. I only died to him 4 times plus the time when I did to him twice.
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>>335985725
childless pits is great for invading though, bait cuckold hosts into the ghosts and gangrape their ass.
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>>335984732
I haven't even beat the King yet, but Abyss Watchers literally fight themselves and can be backstabbed, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
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>>335984283
Easy as fuck compared to Dancer.
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>>335985679
Huh, didn't know he could parry. As much as I like that fight thematically it really isn't that challenging for a final boss, certainly miles ahead of the rest of the series(unless you count Gerhman)
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>>335984283
He was Fume Knight tier. Only retards who don't know how to dodge, or spam circle have trouble with him. He was probably one of the harder bosses in the game, but I found Pontiff, Gundyr, and Lorian and Lothric harder. He was at least harder than Soul of Cinder though.
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>>335985506
>he uses vape breath
>host and other two phantoms run away
>I run in
>they all die
>I break his last bracelet as a fuck you to the host
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>>335985541
Maybe it was because I was using a greatsword but I just swung and killed 3-4 enemies at a time.
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>>335984732
Definitely agree. Nameless King is easier to consistently dodge, even if he hits harder. Abyss Watchers also has a slightly harder first phase.

Nameless King is probably the third most difficult boss in DS3, behind Abyss Watchers and the Champ.
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For some reasons the bosses that seemed more bloodborne like were easier for me...

Abyss watchers and sully I beat in like 3-4 tries.

Aldrich killed me. Fuck that fucker. Wolnir and the tree took a few tries to figure out. I've only killed 2 of the 4 lords so far.

What are your favorite str based weapons, for having fun?
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>>335984283
No boss is hard when roll roll attack is on the job.

5 minute till next retarded thread
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>>335986021
it's funny how there are so many first timers playing this one.
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>>335985998
>Dancer
>hard
All you do is stay away from her and wait for her to do an attack that leaver her open, move in and hit her, and move back out and repeat. I killed her in one fucking try right after Yhorm. Nameless King at least took me 5.
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>>335984732
>>335986090
>Abyss watchers were harder
I have no fucking clue how anyone thinks this. If you go in gorilla mashing maybe but they give you a fucking helper in the 1st phase, and the 2nd phase can be backstabbed along with being hit during his rolls. Abyss watchers are among the easiest bosses in this game, not even meme'ing.
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>>335985998

>Keep your dick firmly pressed against Dancers ass
>She suddenly can't do shit
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>>335984283
Orphan of Kos
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>>335985506
What's the range on that breath attack anyway? I saw some dude take no damage when he went off the the side instead of back to the wall.
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He's really not that hard it's just a long fucking fight and there's opportunity for things to go wrong

So in that sense its difficult but his attacks are some of the easiest to dodge, i think its something about visual cues on attack timing and nameless is king is just a monster riding a monster but what he's using to attack you is never ambiguous
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>>335986230
Ludwig, OoK and Gerhman are harder than any souls boss. Only ones that come close in this game are Pontiff,Lothric bros and maybe Nameless but I discount Nameless because its more his massive HP(and the dragons HP) that makes him difficult. Nameless is a terribly designed fight.
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>>335985679
He will only parry if you mash r1 too much when he's staggered
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>>335986274
i know that if you're by his arms the breath won't hit you. I'm pretty sure it's kind of like a V range starting at his head and spreading out so maybe you don't get hit if you're far enough to the side. I never paid attention to it.
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>>335984557
I feel sick because I couldn't beat him from dodging so I went to circle strafing and beat him first try no estus needed.
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>>335986218
I mean, the Nameless King telegraphs much harder than either phase of Abyss Watchers. Every one of his attacks except the impale dash are easily avoided, and if he uses that you were too far away. Abyss Watchers was much harder to consistently dodge once his sword was on fire.
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>>335986497
I don't understand this, Watchers telegraph everything they do twice as much and you get a nice flame-trail to signifiy the attack. But hey, I guess its just going to be one of those things I never understand.

You play bloodborne? Feel like most people that had problems with Watchers didn't
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>help host with the ancient wyvern (aka ride along for a sunlight medal because lol ancient wyvern)
>host stops at the plunge attack point
>pulls out a fucking bow
>starts shooting
Nigga. If your stupid ass bow shots weren't distracting his head from where it should be, I'd have stolen your glory in slaying the fucking thing.
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>>335985583
Watchers
Pontiff
The Champ & Iudex
Lorian technically, no critical followup
A bunch others get staggered and can be riposted after they get hurt enough.
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>>335986625
Not that guy, but I didn't play Bloodborne and I had no trouble with Watchers. It's just a fancy version of Lost Sinner.

Nameless destroyed me for reasons I still can't quite comprehend. He's easy to read, but delayed attacks just fuck me up so bad, and this game seems to have more issues with buffered inputs than the previous iterations. I beat Champion on my first try, I can't be that bad, right?

Right? ;_;
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>>335986625
I did, but I haven't beaten any of the Old Hunters bosses. I'll do a third run through and do it at some point.
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How do you dodge the dragons flame breath? Gets me every time
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>>335985949
It's the second phase that buttravaged me. As someone who doesn't use shields that delayed flame at the end of every attack the Abyss Watcher had was guaranteed to kill me if I got hit even once.
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Stay close to the dragons head
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>>335986872
Well look forward to Maria is all I'll say. Prepare for the most challenging bosses and best bosses in the series though.
>>335986809
I got slammed by a few delayed attacks as well, honestly they are the only attacks that hit me in this game. The overly long retarded tracking attacks.
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>>335986907
2nd phase is literally just an easier version of Maria
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>>335986881
If you're by it's feet, you can anticipate the noise the dragon makes or the sudden leap.
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>>335984283
Yes but only because of the horrible depth perception in that fight, so many missed hits because of that.
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What game has the hardest bosses in the series?
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>Camera doesn't zoom out while locked on to a massive enemy.
It would be such an easy thing to change.
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>>335984283
Oprhan of Kosm
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>inb4 1000 edgemasters saying: best him first try lol git gud

yeah although I found manus harder
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>>335986402
I'm glad he gives you lots of room to react to it
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Mod that changes Soul of Cinder's model into Giantdad when?
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>>335987283
>I bet you thought you were tough shit for parrying Gwyn back in the first game
>GET FUCKED NIGGA

Like pottery.
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>>335984283
It is if you count out Bloodborne

But Bloodborne has monopoly on hard bosses
Gehrman
Logarius
Ebrietas
Ludwig
Shadows of Yharnam

All harder than Nameless King
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The camera was honestly the main reason it took me so many tries to beat Nameless. Soul of Cinder and the twins seemed legitimately tougher. As far as the whole series goes, it would probably be something in the DS2 DLC, but I didn't actually buy it so I can't say for sure.
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I want the morphable Soul of Cinder sword. Damnit FROM
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>>335984283
>Hardest Dark Souls Boss of All Time?
if they didn't give him a poise break he'd be among the hardest but even then not the hardest. it he didn't have his stagger he'd be my favorite boss in DaS3.
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>>335984283
Dark Souls is trial and error shit. You memorize unfairly telegraphed moves, bosses usually have like three, same with Nameless King. Takes five attempts at most. And then you ALWAYS beat them, it iwll ALWAYS be easy. Because it's trial and error, you know the trick. It's not dynamic.

>>335984385
This.
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>>335987497
>beat literally all those Bloodborne bosses excluding Gehrman on my first attempt
>get my ass kicked by Nameless, Twins, and Soul of Cinder
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>>335987589
>I legitimately thought the weapon art on the firelink greatsword was going to be it morphing between its forms
WA's were a fucking mistake, what a let down the entire system is.
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>>335987497
>Logarius
>Harder thab nameless


Always funny how subjective difficulty actually is.
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>>335987497

Only one that took me more than 2 tries was Ludwig.
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>>335987687
They could've been cool, most of them are pretty underwhelming
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>>335984283
Why are Souls players so fucking bad at video games? Nameless King is like a bad joke compared to the hardest Bayonetta (secret) bosses.

Or of course Monster Hunter 140 monsters.

Are Souls fans really just NeoGAF users that play those games because of the "le if you don't like this game, you are a casual" marketing and believe they are badass?
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I seriously cannot beat this guy. His dashes are way too fast for me and deal 80% of my life.
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>>335987869

Monster Hunter actually being difficult is one of the greatest memes perpetuated on this board.
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>>335987680
>>335987772

Why lie on an anonymous imageboard.
If you were at least a tripfag ,it would be for glory.
But you're just an anonymous user who's lies even if someone was naive enough to believe them would be forgotten about after this thread dies


>>335987694
He is if you don't parry
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>>335987674
I needed more than 5 tries with nameless.

I was underleveled before I beat him but his combos felt unintuitive to me. It took me a long time to get used to his combos because he oftentimes takes longer to attsck than I expected.
Like his dash around you, he finishes the dash and instead of attacking, he walks a few steps and THEN attacks.
Or his slow ass stab after a 2 hit combo.

He always cought me when my roll ended because of his delayed attacks.

this was mainly a subjective thing tho
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>>335987884
Holy shit, Souls players are bad.

Higher your magic defense (armor, ring). He does an attack with a huge magic aura thing that lets you hit him like five times. You receive some magic damage but it's laughable.

Beat it on second attempt.

>>335987912
Cool, then turn on your 3DS and let's do a 140 quest. Are you ready?
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>>335984283

Beat him fast. Twin princess gave me the most trouble in the whole game. They took me just about an hour, while Nameless King was around 20mins of trying.

Once I learned you could critical the dragon. That phase was easy. Once I learned that the nameless king is only open to attacks after he does long distances charges, he became easy. Twin princeses though, FUCK THEM. Faggot teleports every second and I couldn't tell if he was going to; wide sweep, over head slam, sword thrust or charged distance soul blade. 2 of these can be dodged by waiting a second, 2 of these will hit you if you don't dodge before the animation starts, so I would take lots of needless hits.

To beat twin princeses I put on some heavy armor and heavy shield and just tanked his unpredictable half of attacks. I didn't change any gear or play style for Gundyr part 2 nor Nameless king.
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>>335987981

I don't care what you believe, Bloodborne's bosses weren't that difficult with the notable exception of Ludwig.
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>>335988038
>meme sword user
And your opinion is supposed to mean something?
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>>335988038
Are there really people that even consider the dragon phase part of the difficulty? Does he even attack in this phase? It's literally

>flies
>comes down
>telegraphs fire attack for 20 seconds
>run to head, kill it
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>>335988109
Why don't you post a screenshot of your trophies then anon
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>>335987884
Stay close to his asshole and watch for that tailspin to roll through it
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>>335987981
He is not. First form can be staggered out of attacks and 2nd too if you interrupt his power up with a backstab. If you hit him once or twice and then follow his dashes with yours you can keep attacking. That's without parrying.

Also setting this arbitrary rule up in the first place is so fucking stupid.

>all mario bosses were harder than nameless king

no they were not


>yeah but if you don't JUMP
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>>335986375
>Gerhman

Hes fucking easy tho what the hell are you talking about
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>>335987912
Souls being difficult is the way bigger meme, though. And it's infesting every online board.
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>>335988038
>that edgy fucking character
How often do you consider suicide?
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>>335988038
How could ANY boss give you trouble with a dark sword?

Try using an UGS and come back
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>>335984283
I beat him on my first try on my most recent playthrough. I would say Champion Gundyr is harder, but only by a thread.
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>>335987912
I love Monster Hunter but I have to agree. Its honestly just tedious.
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>difficulty is literally subjective
>even more depending on play style and especially weapon choice
>these threads
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>>335986375
Agreed. DS's defensive playstyle is a lot easier than BB's offensive fast pace style. I started with BB and then moved to ds1, and I literally never died once I got a decent weapon.

BB punishes you for retreating after taking damage, allowing the general damage to be much higher, ontop of the lack of shield. The rally system define's BB and raises the difficulty cap and floor immensely.
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>>335988356
>How often do you consider suicide?

Every time I'm in your mom's room staring at the ceiling after having blown my load.
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>>335988298
I don't think you know how backstabs in BB work

Repositioning behind Logarius as he charges up his AoE and then charging up your own R2 is asking to be AoE'd

You also entirely forgot about the move where he plants a sword in the ground which summons hundreds more from thin air and hits yoh
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>>335984451
Lud and Zallen aren't hard. The Frigid Outskirts are hard.
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>>335988461
>it's tedious
>I love it
Stops hitposting, Souls kid. Turn on 3DS, we do a 140, and you again tell me which game is harder.

140 Zinogre or Diablos, maybe.
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>>335988479
>offensive style in BB

Literally just translates to mashing r1. DaS3 has the same problem but its not as bad because some of the enemies actually have poise like the front knights. BB is the second easiest game in the series ahead of DeS.
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>>335988496
>that edge character
>a literal call of duty insult
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>>335986415
No way it's way longer than that. I swear I was on the otherside of the fucking arena and got hit by it and the graphic didn't even touch me.
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>>335988130
>could beat the boss naked with no estus flasks used
>be using dark sword
>HAHA FUCKING MEME SWORD FAG GIT GUD

why do you guys think it's so bad using a sword that's good? I found the dark sword early on in my game and it was pretty comfortable. didn't even know it scaled well or anything until late game.
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Anyone on /v/ making claims about BB should start by posting a screenshot of Bloodborne 2bh

>>335988636 statements like this are the reason
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>>335988375
But using UGS is also pretty easy
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>>335988375
>Try using an UGS and come back

I use other weapons for funsies or to style on niggas when I invade but I just don't see the point in making the game harder for no reason at all. If I know I have a better weapon than others then of course I'm going to use it when I'm not fucking around.
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>>335987869
I can't speak for others but I've been with Souls since DeS and I simply play them because they're fun and I like them. That's really the main reason why I play video games. Difficulty and "hardcore gamer cred" has never been a reason. Is this really what things have come to? Not only Souls but I also like Bayonetta, DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Onimusha, Monster Hunter, Bloodborne, and most recently Nioh. I don't know why Souls always has to get shit on so much. The games have a good weapon systems and I like exploring and killing enemies and bosses. The games aren't "piss easy" nor are they "the hardest thing ever". The challenge feels reasonable to me. Some bosses are a little more difficult and take more tries while others don't.

Sorry for the rant but I'm just kind of tired of seeing Souls game attract so much shitposting about "prepare to die" and "git gud". Yeah, they became popular and I'm sure we have retarded underage fags who really do play them to feel "hardcore" but I can assure you that not everyone is like that. I know this is /v/ but I actually like video games and still enjoy them.
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>>335988636
R1 mash against OoK and see how far it gets you
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>>335986375

pontiff is easy. all attacks telegraphed and slow... can parry... his spirit double telegraphs all of his actual attacks.
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Pffft easy.
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>>335984283
This guy was an ass
My +10 Claymore was doing only ~270-300 damage to this guy and his dragon

Meanwhile I saw DSP deal out 400+ damage to the dragon in 1 hit,Either I was grossly underlevelled or DSP was overlevelled.

If I had a weapon like his this fight would have been done in 2-3 tries max
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Nameless took me like 20 tries my first playthrough with a dragon crest/butcher knife.

Then took me like 3-4 on my second with a 2 handed Yhorm Machete. I just found him alot harder when the battle lasted longer because of my lack of damage out put.But when you can get 400-450 a chop hes really easy i feel like i could do it in 1-2 tries now.

Not gonna like 90% of his challenge comes from the fact you have to master the endurance round just to get a chance with the real boss each time. Which is easy now but at first was obnoxious.
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>>335988519
Did you even play thr game or watch just some streams?

You can just walk behind him and backstab him when he begins his second phase. that completely negates his powerarmor.

And if he plants the sword in the ground you just need to hit it once and it disapoears again.

3 possibilities:
you're too stupid to figure out piss easy strats and now try to defend your stupidity

you didn't play BB

you're baiting


I hope it's the latter.
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>>335988742
just shitty telegraphed moves as per usual with from soft. just like the bull shit where bosses can grab you when you're not in range.
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>>335988713
>a literal call of duty insult

The classics work the best. Nice attempt at ad hominen though.
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>>335988756
You don't think BB rewards mashing r1? Did you fight any of the enemies in the game? The wolf enemies? Any of the hunter fights? Literally all of the enemies have zero poise.

>>335988885
I was just talking about the base game. The DLC is great, as is the case with all From DLC.
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>>335987869
>Apex Zinogre
>levelled to 140

Is there even any solo run online that isn't bow?
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>>335989080
if you watch the grab animation has hand reaches pretty far behind him. it's working as intended you double nigger.
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>>335988970

Pfft, nothin' personnel, cinder.
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>>335986881

if you're close enough, just run straight ahead and you can get a couple free hits on it's neck
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>>335988151
Frankly I consider the dragon phase more fun than the actual fight aside from the jump fire ball bullshit.
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DaS3>BB>DaS=DeS>DaS2

2bhfam
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>>335989208
what boss are you talking about because I didn't say a SPECIFIC boss. I've had the dancer grab me when I wasn't in reach of her hand.
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>>335989058
>he knew he could destroy the sword on his first playthrough
Wanna know how I know you used a guide ?

You can't just walk behind anyone and backstabs them in BB

You have to attack him with a charged R2 on the back which takes considerable amount of time

You are the one who didn't play Bloodborne
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>>335989325

I think so too. BB isn't far behind, but it falters cause I really love getting weapons, using them, buffing them and collecting them. Dark Souls 3 is the better game over all, but if a person liked the horrific images and tone of BB better than I am okay with that.
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>>335984283
>Hard, harder, hardest

Why do people use this adjective for the Soulsborne series exactly?

The games aren't "hard" they are punishing. There's a difference.

If you are simply persistent and learn from your mistakes, the games are not hard at all.
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>>335984283
When will I get summoned?
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>>335989325
BB=DaS=DeS, and I agree.
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>>335985004
he's basically just a bigger version of the red eye knights
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>>335989347
i thought you were replying to the iron golem webm.
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>>335987674
>unfairly telegraphed moves

Probably should find a better place to shoehorn in that adverb.
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>>335989325
DS3 has the least replayability out of the series. Magic is trash, straightswords are the best weapons period, and frankly a lot of the areas are copy-pasted shit(demon ruins, catacombs, Irythrill dungeon) and it has some of the shorter areas in the series. Garden, graves, dragon belfry, Smouldring lake, road of sacrifices.

Its easily the most flawed out of all of them and I am baffled that its considered the best in the series. It'd be another thing if it didn't rely so much on DS1 and DS2's assets and actually had a significant portion of new equipment and items, instead its 80% from old games barely anything new.

BB>DS1>DS3=DeS>DS2
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>>335989616
who's the double nigger now.
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>>335989646
>most flawed out of all of them
>it's as good as Demon's, and better than 2
Did you even read what you wrote?
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>>335988624
>wearing a gorrillion pieces of heavy armor with a gorrilion health chasing around the same basic flying/crawling/whatever gimmick doing chip damage to their gorillion healthbar for 30 minutes is hard

monster hunter takes no skill, it's just patience to run around playing hide and seek with something randomly selected from a generic monster beastiary
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Well that's pretty.
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>>335988624
interesting how you needed to compare the regular NG bosses in Dark Souls to 140 monsters in MH and not just the first versions of them you fight.
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>>335989730
DeS was the first game they made in this style whats DS3's excuse?

DeS at least was inventive and didn't stand on the legs of previous games, If you wanted to play as a mage you could, if you wanted to play faith you could, if you wanted to spec into heavy, sharp or quality you could. In DS3 its Quality or go home.

They have had 4 games and DS3 turns out like this? C'mon now.
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>>335989808
Yahargul.jpg
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>>335989808
has CHROMATIC ABBERATION gone TOO FAR?
is this image REAL or FAKE?
78% of people get this wrong...
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>This thread
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>>335989883
>Quality or go home
lol
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>>335984283
I thought Ornstein and Smough before the patch and Old King Allant without cheesing it with poison were harder.
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>>335984283
>A game series where everyone has different problems and thinks different things are hard
Man, Souls really is the GOAT isn't it.
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>>335989808
What the fuck are those things anyway? Reanimated giants' nervous systems?

They're so cool and I'm bummed we never got to fight/talk to/hold hands with one.
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>>335990520
DRAGONS!!!
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>>335988970
>Pffft easy
>shield
>dark sword
>no estus left from a +10 flask
>almost no hp left
yeah okay
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Bloodborne>DaS2>DeS>DaS3>DaS
In terms of difficulty

In terms of game quality
Bloodborne>DaS>DeS=DaS3>DaS2
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>>335990604
He was sarcastic,anon.
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>>335990619
really you thought dark souls was the easiest?
I agree with you in quality but in terms of difficulty I'd go
DaS2 > Bloodborne > DaS > DaS 3 > Des
I recently replayed through demon and dark souls one after the other and I died so many more times in dark souls. I beat demon souls with 4 deaths.
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>>335985283
I put a sign down telling people to focus on the glow and got a bunch of people disparaging it.
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>>335990604
explain to me why the dark sword is bad.


>inb4 buttmag meme sword fag
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EUUUGGGH!!!!
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>>335990619
Close.

DaS3>DaS>BB>DaS2>DeS
In terms of difficulty

In terms of game quality
DeS=BB>DaS3>DaS>DaS2

DaS3 is my favorite 2bh
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I had more trouble with 2prince.
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Hardest boss for me was crystal sage and I have zero idea why. I beat nameless and soc in one try but he took me 15
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>>335984893
>being so shit you star using ember to restore health
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>>335988151
The dragon gave me more trouble than the King. I took a few tries to learn how to avoid the dragon attacks, besides that straight down flame I could never predict, and the King took me two tries after that.
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>>335991727
I think the flame triggers when you go too far under his belly, but don't quote me on that.

I just know I could get several attempts with no flame attack whatsoever by just sticking close to dragon's head.
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Why is the Dark Sword so frowned upon when the standard Broadsword is lighter, quicker and just as damaging? I used it the whole game and had great damage against everything.
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>>335988624
Stop.
The only thing I like better about the Monster Hunter fanbase is that they don't do the "git gud" masochistic circlejerk that has become 90% of souls discussion.
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>>335991831
The first time I fought it, I ran under the dragon and hit it's feet for shit damage thinking that was how to do it. I didn't notice the head lowering because the camera would hide it while I was slashing the feet.
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>>335989507
Jesus dude all the consoles do screen shots. Why are you taking off screen shots?
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>>335985623
I wish all bosses were parryable, it's a thrill to dominate them so utterly.
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>>335991878
these fags are bad and get stomped by it in pvp.

i agree it's op in pvp, but i don't get why anyone laughs at someone using it in pve. it's perfectly viable.
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>>335990520
Pilgrim butterflies

Read the dragonslayer armor soul
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>>335991984
Once you stop hitting the feet (because that shit aint worth it), you can definitely start feeling when the dragons is gonna rise.
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>>335991497

>DeS
>High game quality

It was a buggy unbalanced mess that ran like shit. More so than other Souls games

I like Demon's Souls, but I don't understand why everyone puts it on such a high pedestal. It had so many wonky issues
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Only thing hard about Nameless King is killing his turkey first. Not that it's hard but your trying to get to his second phase so you start rushing on the turkey and start making mistakes.
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>>335992093
Around here, it's just to be contrarian faggots.
And I also like Demon's Souls, it's a neat game and most certainly worth playing, especially to get insight into where the series came from, but it's so unrefined in technical terms and game mechanics.
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>>335989359
>this much damage control

yeah coud could've just admitted that you're stupid and it would've been less embarrassing
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>>335991497
fucking what? dark souls 3 is the easiest souls game, bar fucking none.
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>>335984451
Those two giant rat dog fuckers in front of the aldrich faithful covenant are 10x harder than those 2 kitties
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Well Greatswords make the game harder, they don't make it hard in a fun way.

They just make fighting certain bosses really tedious.

The games balance is all fucked up right now.
Making the enemies faster and more aggressive forced them to make a bunch of reactionary changes and the caused a ripple effect and now the game is all over the place.

Still had a lot of fun though.
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Judging how hard these games are compared to one another is tough. Every new game I get a little better at souls. Like Demons Souls, I died on tower night a million times, red eye knights fucking my ass, all sorts of shit. Them as the games kept coming I kept getting better. I didn't even take a death in DS3 till undead settlement. Not because i'm some pro souls player but just because I know how the game wants to be played.
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>>335992239
So much this, DeS had so many gimmick bosses, infinite grass, shitty levels apart from Latria and Boletaria.

DaS had tons of shitty bosses apart from two or three, same goes for area.

DaS2 looked even worse then DaS in terms of graphics, animations, shitty online mechanics, boring as fuck atmosphere and story.

I can understand the love for DaS/DeS because of it establishing the IP, the establishing of lore and the npc's were pretty memorable.

But holy fuck playing through the previous souls game shows how badly they've aged.
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>All these people saying bloodborne bosses
>Not a souls game
>Most forgiving dodge in the game
>Instantaneous health regeneration
>Stun bosses easier than any Souls games
Top kek
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>>335992359
Strength weapons are just stupid hard to use in this

The attacks are so slow, and enemies hit for so much damage, that they're not worth it. Why should I spend 3 seconds for one swing of my greatsword and taking a hit from a boss' super quick attack when I can respec to dex and deal similar damage, faster, more often, with less stamina loss, and actually recovering in time to roll out of the boss attack
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>>335992465
6 months ago I would of called you a faggot but then I played Demons Souls and Dark Souls 1 again and you are spot on. Esp surprised at how shitty Dark Souls 1 aged.
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>>335992349
You can be godmode in the following way for the souls games.

DeS=grass, shield, rolling
DaS=shield, rolling
DaS2=Shields, gems, rolling
DaS3=rolling
BB=rolling

So no it isn't the easiest,i rank it the hardest because BB has too many shit-tier bosses.
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>>335991342
It's popular.
Popular and well rounded weapons in the Souls games are instantly bad.
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>>335991436
Ahh Kosm
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>>335992552
Thanks for letting everybody know you never played it, we all care so much
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>>335984283
manus was harder for me. maybe artorias too.

he's definitely the hardest in 3.
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>>335992576
I think you might be retarded.
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There is not a single better armor in the game.
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>>335984283
He wasn't even top 5 in DaS3
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I'm the best weapon in the game, straight swords are for gigantic pussies.
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>>335992350
You can pull them seperately and an unupgraded bleed weapon with Carthus rouge makes short work of them because they bleed very easily.

Not denying that it's a really shitty enemy but it's not hard.
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Quick.
I've got 60 vit, what do I do with it?
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>>335993175
Visit tiddy monster and respec it.
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>>335993175
Become Havel, equip all his shit, and wait for invaders in Archdragon Peak.
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>>335985036
First phase can be finished in like 10 seconds dude
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so I just killed Yhorm the giant and the god eater guy

I've put the abyss walkers, yorm, and god devourer on their chairs in the firelink shrine. but where do I go after this?
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>>335991690
You can use the ember only once to become kindled, retard.
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>>335984283
Hardest boss is all the crashes and From's lies about how they fixed them.
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>>335992762
For once I'd rather a souls game have LESS capes

it's nice that they mastered the simulated fabric tech, but not every armor needs a cape, From.
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>>335993907
enlighten me
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>>335994063
No fucking shit asshole. Just the fact you needed it when you got 15 estus heals means your a shitter
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>>335994353
>everyone has 15 estus heals
>using tools to your advantage is being a shitter
I guess upgrading your weapon is fucking scrub play, also armor. hell, why even use estus.
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>>335984283
How do I dodge the dragon's fire breath?
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I couldn't keep up with his delayed hits and my rapier wasn't doing jack to him.

Magic works pretty well. Just gotta play keepaway and not get greedy.
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>>335994279
use ranged weapons and hit the head
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>>335994603
1. Don't attack his feet, the damage sucks balls
2. When his head isn't exposed, you can anticipate the fire attack, listen for the sound cue or just react to the wyvern jumping
3. Sticking by his neck will give you ample time to run if the wyvern firebombs, and ample opportunity to roll if the King makes a swing

That's just my experience, I never had trouble with the fire attack after the first time it fucking destroyed me.
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>>335987869
>Monster Hunter
Difficult =/= tedious
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>>335991436
this guy or laurence. But laurence is mainly hard because of high one shot damage and being surprised by non-cleric beast moves.
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Am I the only one completely disappointed with oceiros? He is one of the easiesy bosses in the game and I remember a fair number of people complaining he was hard. Not bragging (I got raped by Wolnir 5 times before I figured out that damn breath move so call me shit for that) but I beat him first try with only a few estus used. You stand next to him and move to the side and he will literally never hit you. The only hard part was running after him cause he charges away.
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>>335995189
Oceiros is a very RNG heavy boss. He has a few hard hitting combos but if he gets stuck in his tail-spin loop or keeps breathing ice breath then you're guaranteed an easy fight.

Running around the arena trying to hit him is a pain in the ass, for sure.
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God the pvp in this game is shit, its all the same builds. God forbid you don't feel like using a straight sword or an Estoc.
Say what you will about DS2 but it had the most balenced pvp by a landslide.
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>>335995380
Even his hard hitting combos are super easy to dodge. They're pretty much right in front of him so as long as you don't stand still you're fine. Its all based on play style though I guess
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>>335987283
Wait, that's not a glitch?
I legit shouted at the screen when that happened, thought it was lag or something. That's intentional? The fuck FROM?
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I know it's clunky compared to the other Souls games, but this motherfucker. He wrecks stamina bars if you use a shield, becomes more aggressive and combo-heavy as he loses health (which became the norm for bosses in later games), and punches you with explosions. Explosions! Maneaters are pretty bad too, since they're designed to shove you off a cliff.
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>>335995643
There are many enemies in the game that parry+riposte you
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>>335985115
>>335989568
Pretty sure he just meant the shield have 100 lightning resist
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>Want to beat all the bosses without summons
>Beat all the bosses without summons
>Fuck me self out of 3 instances of items and quests cause they require NPC summons

FUCK
THIS
SHIT

This is my reward for being gitgud and listening to you tards.
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>>335996709
It's worth beating the bosses at least once on your own, especially if it's your first time. Just summon them during NG+ or on another character.
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>>335992640
Or some say, Kos
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>>335996709
Did the same.
Also missed the "thank you" gesture because I killed the invader instead of letting him kill me.
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>>335992552
I get triggered when people say BB isn't a souls game even though it plays the same
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I don't think he is even the hardest in Dark Souls 3.
His no dragon form took me two tries.
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>>335984283
He wasn't that hard, I remember fume knight giving me the hardest time out of all the bosses.
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>>335987195
>he thinks from can code or make good games

Good goy
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>>335987497
the only two id argue that are harder than NK are OOK and Ludwig
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Vendrick was harder than Nameless King
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>nameless
>hard

He's an optional boss with highly telegraphed attacks that can easily be dodged, and he allows plenty of time for you to punish him. Lorian and Lothric are harder with their magic missile spam and teleporting attacks that drop your lock on them.

Seriously, did people try to take on Nameless at level 50 or something? Embarrassing.
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>>335999690
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>all these people using the fucking Dark Sword
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>>335985004

Man, I beat Nameless without shield (mostly because normal shields don't do shit) and it took me 18 attempts.

Later I did it coop, and used that shield. It trivializes the whole fight. In fact great shields are op as fuck.
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>>336000453
It's a good weapon, deal with it. Beside, I'm cosplaying a Darkwraith when I invade, do you want me to use something else?
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Fighting dakrlurker melee only is legit harder than orphan
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>>335995189

I beat him my first try. Then I watched my friend get shit on him over and over again. I never saw half his moveset because I just got under him and slapped him with my UGS. If you let him freak out and fly around and combo he can be tricky I suppose.
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>>335998036

>Also missed the "thank you" gesture because I killed the invader instead of letting him kill me.

m8, you get the gesture if you beat him too.
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>>336000613
I'm bracing for the inevitable nerf soon.

I hope it stays good because its a blessing to breeze through a new character.
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