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Did your weaponfu get absolutely raped in Dark Souls 3? I know
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Did your weaponfu get absolutely raped in Dark Souls 3? I know mine did.
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>>335981421
Basic Scimtar is still GOAT in my book.
>Combos for days
>Speed AND power
>Good movement combos, if you know them
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>>335981591

good luck killing me =] i'm using a Estoc without locking on
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>>335981753
You probably kill yourself when you get parried scrub
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>>335981421

At least your weaponfu is one of the best parrying tools.
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>>335981421

Your weaponfu was never good.
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>>335981934
>fight estoc scrub
>allow self to get caught in R1 chain
>just mash L2
>win
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>>335981421
>DS1 first time doing new londo
>get spooked and find out that you have to fuck yourself over to even hit them
>ghosts don't have much HP when you're able to actually hit them, decide to meme my way through with punches
>mfw caestus is actually legit
And then I found out that they can turn into the dragon fists
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Mine came back.
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>Decide I'm going to use the Corvian Great Scythe
>Get to deacons
DROWNING IN MY SKIN
THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL!
had to summon
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>>335982110
>get spooked and find out that you have to fuck yourself over to even hit them
You got yourself cursed with half HP rather than using a Transient? They drop from the ghosts and there's several scattered over the area.
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MLGS was slightly fucked.

Also, can I get some help at the Church of Yorshka? I have no sense of direction, I haven't played in a couple weeks SL71
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>>335981421
i don't know how it is in 2 but coming from 1 the greatscythe is kind of garbage for pve

basically have to switch to a shortsword whenever i want to beat a boss.
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>>335981421
Claymore is trash, but im glad the sheath is back.
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>No Dragon Bone Fist OR Champ ring
>claws/caestus only good for cosplay or parry duty
>closest thing to a cool fist weapon has split damage and garbage scaling
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>>335982295
Had to summon on Deacons, it's that bad?
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All Great Hammers suck now. My usual build is ruined.

I've converted to Great Axes.
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>>335982406
This was way back when it first came out and I didn't know fucking anything, I was just following what the npc gave as advice and got coughed on by lizards.
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>>335982615
Why do all the good looking weapons have to be shit?
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No, I got a new weaponfu from this game and it's shit.
>tfw Dancer's blades L2 is shit
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>>335982670
The scythe causes bleed to build up on you on each hit.
Trying to hit the one glowy guy in the crowd of other guys mean either I swung twice and injured myself, swung once, back off, and risk the glow transferring to a new guy.
Fight was easy as hell on my great club character.
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>>335982295
Fellow greatscythe user. It's not the scythe making you suck.
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It's alright.
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>>335982486

A lot of weapons on the larger side pretty much got fucked due to higher stamina usage, and AR that isn't much higher than a "1-handed" weapon type. Doesn't help that all three Scythes have shitty WAs, either.

Although, I don't think Hand-to-hand is all that terrible. Nerfed a little due to slower startup, but the damage is still decent and the stamina usage per hit is hilariously small. Since almost all fists weapons are auto-dual wield, there's even further use out of Bleed/Luck builds. Bleed accumulates on every hit, so mashing L1 builds Bleed super fast, leading to some moderately impressive DPS.
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>>335982589
Wait, whys it trash? I started another character and using it, pretty alright so far. I just made it to the area outside the abyss watchers fight.
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>>335981421
Nah, Black Knight Sword is just as average as ever. I still love it, though.
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>buying a new game just to use the same weapon you used before
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>>335982053
>>335981934
Does caestus have more active parry frames than shields, or even parry shields? I've been keeping the stupid looking small leather shield around just for estoc users but I hate how it looks and I never really bother guarding anyway. A caestus might be nice for quick pokes, especially if it can parry well.
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>>335981421
I'm enjoying my butcher knife, it's been doing a pretty serious amount of damage with good speed and range, plus the ability to heal up on trash mobs is nice
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>>335982813
Try pressing R2 after it. It will change your life.
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>>335982615
What actually makes split damage bad?

I see this is loads of threads.
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>>335982615
Bone Fist was some entertaining shit. I loved baiting scrubs into doing a flying kick over a cliff ledge.
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>>335982486
In 2 everything was good, could beat niggas with a fucking spoon if you wanted to, caestus was OP if you rollpunched, was still fucking savage even if you didn't, up to 700 damage a combo, if you had a good build.
I am extremely mad about the new fist weapons.
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Never really had a weaponfu in Dark Souls 1, but in Dark Souls 2 I would have to say it was the Mirrah Greatsword, and they made it even better in Dark Souls 3 so I'm pretty happy.
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>>335983097
Caestus has the fastest parry frames and almost fairly fast recovery frames. Not much hard data exists yet so it's possible it doesn't have the fastest, but it's pretty fast and fairly reliable at punishing R1 spammers.

https://youtu.be/cXBn_1GALRs?t=23s
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>>335981421
I don't seem to be dealing much damage when I PVP, yet they all seem to hit so fucking hard. What have I done wrong?
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I loved the Dark Sword because of the way it looks but since Dark Souls 3 I just can't bring myself to use it.

So yes, it was raped. Gang raped.
and there are people better than me at handling her too
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>>335983491
>Dark Sword
>Bad
???
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Greataxe. Damage for days, guard break for days with the Tsorig ring.
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>>335981421

are you guys telling me you can parry and do fancy combos with this fist weapon? why am I not using it right now?
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>>335983291
Absorption.
One damage type only gets absorbed by one defense.
Dual uses two defence types so gets double absorbed, deals a lot less damage.
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>>335982589
Fuck you nigger claymore is only bad for the early game.
After a few upgrades and levels it's GOAT
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>Fume's UGS is back
>SS isn't

REEEEEE
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Not very useful anymore. A shame really, I was rather fond of it because it's probably the only time a halberd was unique compared to other weapons in a game.
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>>335982681
Man, Dragonslayer Great Axe has some retardedly high damage.
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>>335983721
Thank God, that shit was so annoying in 2.
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>no balder baller sword
>no snake greatsword
>whips still shitty

At least I like the Evangelist stick so Im ok but I want Ciaran and Chester sets back
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>>335983721
I literally thought I was the only person that used that.
Great for a SL60 run.
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>>335983659
You can only parry if it's in your left hand and you're not two-handing it, i.e. you use it like you would a parry dagger.
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>>335983793
Same with me and lucerne. I made it work fairly well in DaS1, but it feels different and lackluster in DaS3.

I think it's because the game uses the BB engine tbqh.
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>>335983423
>that stam usage on exile great sword

What the fuck, this thing is twice as heavy as my claymore and requires half the stamina to swing and does more damage, it probably has better reach too
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>mfw people call DS3 claymore bad

Guess you're just shit, I've been stabbing skeletons in the dick for days
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>>335983813

Lothric Knight Sword has the same moveset as the Balder Straight Sword.
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>crymore and zwei
I'm sure I'm a living meme, but I'm having fun.
and with dancer armor I can actually have both equipped.
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>>335981421
>Broadsword
Nah, i think it's still pretty good.
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>>335981421
>Deacons
>Caestus
Is there a greater hell?
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>>335983574
think he was implying the opposite anon.

It's one of the go-to weapons for shitty players because of its strong R1 spam.
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>>335983885

can you have a fist weapon to parry in one hand, and another fist weapon in the other?
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>>335983813
Whips aren't that bad. They don't do oodles of damage but their hitboxes, especially for the weapon art, are fucking all over the place.
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>>335983906
>Guess you're just shit
>I'm bragging about PvE

It's decent at PvE, it's also completely outperformed by everything in PvP.
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So what people are saying is that Caestus is good for parries?
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My Weapon is fine, it's still mediocre
Scythes. I'm hoping it's good if I go Pyro and Chaos Gem it.
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>>335984049
the claymore is not decent at pve you're directly making the game harder by using a greatsword let alone one of the worst ones
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>>335983386
It took a whole 'nother game, but Lucatiel has proven that she is best girl by having the best fucking sword in the game.

Now if only she had better fanart.
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>>335984043
You can, but its one handed moveset sucks.
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>Always liked simple straight swords
>They're meme level now in DS3
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>>335981421
It's the best off hand available though.
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I wish they would nerf Straight Swords, or buff poise. They are so stupidly op in PvP.
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>>335983242
Nah, I know that extends the spin. It's still shit, doesn't do much damage at all. Better off using the L1 attack. It does look fancy at least.
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Well, the Tracers are on disc DLC, but they manifested in the base game as the Dancer's Swords. Which, aside from the terrible scaling, are really, really cool.
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>>335984214
I read a couple days ago that poise is turned off or something in game. It would explain a lot.
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>>335984214
>buff poise
You mean turn on poise.
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WHY DOES ARTORIAS ARMOR STILL HAVE CHICKEN LEGS?! Why have they not fixed this yet? What are some good legs that can match with the armor that aren't toothpicks?
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>>335984142

so no fiery spinny attacks?
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>>335984214
Get hit twice, parry the third hit because you know they're going to go for it, one shot them with a riposte

Works like 70% of the time against okay players and like 95% of the time against r1 spammers
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>Weaponfu comes back
>You just can't use it because silver knights drop everything except their weapons
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>>335984307
It's a tad more than that, Armor Poise is turned off.
Poise from your Weapon only applies during L2 2-Handed Animations.
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>>335984268
Speaking of dual wielding, are Gotthard Swords any good? I've upgraded one to max, refined recently. It seems fairly good for pve but for pvp it fails to "click" for me tbqh. Maybe cause I am too used to zwei and its stupid hyperarmor.
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>>335984307
There's a single variable in the code that is currently turned off that would give players the same kind of poise as enemies, yes. Whether it's an intentional design choice or a mistake is unclear, but this is the same group of people who released a patch that broke the PS4 version, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they actually fucked up that hard.
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>>335982615
>>335982615
DLC's will probably add the crazy shit
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>>335981421
>try to use the dark sword in dark souls 1 because it was my favorite weapon appearance wise
>it was hot garbage so I dropped it after trying to make it work
>it's back in 3 but has a negative stigma around it like the drake sword

Liking the dark sword has brought me nothing but suffering.
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>>335984137

or more fanart for that matter.
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>>335983813
Whips were fucking awesome in DS2. Powerstanced poison-infused Spotted Whips in DS2 pretty much poisoned instantly, then Old Whips wreck anything Hollow, and Notched Whips bleed the shit out of everything else.

And then they became shit again in DS3.
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>>335984125
But its the best looking greatsword. :/
Why is it so mediocre
Tfw Dark Sword does 9 less damage at 40/40
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>>335984386
I know, and that's what I do usually.

But it really is vastly different from the early Souls games tbqh, and it takes a while to get used to.
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>>335984445
They're pretty good. Rolling L1 is fast and has good damage and double the parry window, but no one realises that and the weapon art has enough of a spin to catch a lot of people when they try to roll to your side.
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>>335983950

Sound cool, gonna give it a try

>their hitboxes, especially for the weapon art, are fucking all over the place.

So a buff whip deals ok damage? Is the Scaling even that good?

>>335984578
They are but fuck me if the animation is so fucking horrible to the point castlevania 64 had better whip animations
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>>335984698
>Pouring liquids hotter than the flames of Hell into your Waifu
No.
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>>335984698
Emerald looks retarded there.
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How to win as an invader:

>pump up strength and dex, put on weapon with very high AR on right hand (BKGA is my fave for this)
>knightslayer/horsehoof rings for guardbreaking, hornet ring for one hit kills, obscuring ring for element of surprise
>caestus on left for parrying

Like 50% of people I invade are straightsword/katana R1 spammers. All you gotta do is tank the first two hits of the R1 spam, mash L1 so you parry their third hit, then GG. People who say invading is too hard need to adopt scummier tactics
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>>335982615
Is there even a game with fist weapons among swords, axes and other shit where the fists are a viable option and not just a way to purposefully gimp yourself?
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>>335984780
she always looked retarded, and she has no place in the series anyway
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>>335984698
>dolljoints
Bueno
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>>335984349
Knight Leggings or Silver Knight Leggings
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>>335984617
It doesn't feel too different to me but I played a lot of PvP in DaS2 so I'm used to the two hit stunlock and hyper armor system

It's different but not too much of a jump
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>>335984479
just use it and have fun with it, i have it as my secondary if I need the speed during pvp. works well.
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The greatsword feels a bit shit this time around, but maybe it didn't change at all and I'm being crazy. Switched to Yohrm's fuckhuge cleaver and shit's good.
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>>335984698
>>335984878
Doll a best.
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Is it true summons now have a limit?
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>>335984734

Whips are fine. In fact, their moveset is the best its ever been.

The only reason they're not as popular now is because you can't powerstance them, which means its difficult to easily take advantage of the ailment-inflicting whips. Not to mention the fact that poison sucks now.

However, I think they're still worth using. Witch's Locks are amazing for pyro builds, and a regular Refined Whip does pretty good damage considering what ridiculous range it has on its one-handed R2 and WA.
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>>335984797
Iron flesh is also ridiculously good when your outnumbered. Very underrated and requires no stat investment.
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>>335985000
Delete this
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>>335985021
You can manually summon up to 3 and have up to 3 Invaders excluding location-based Invaders.
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>>335984982
Its around Lothric castle/draggo area where it starts feeling less like an ultra greatsword and more like a mediocre hunk of iron.
good luck with the archdragon big guys who have unlimited poise and make your ultra feel like a dagger
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>>335985021
A limit in what sense? Summons have always had multiple limits, what exactly are you asking?
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>>335985049
i've been doing some really silly shit with the obscuring ring too. Like in Grand Archives when the host's posse go up the elevator I wait till the last second and run in with them. Usually I only kill one or two of them in the ensuing chaos but it's funny as fuck
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>>335984821
Dark Souls 2
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Yes, mine got culled hard.

It wouldn't even be bad if I could use an alternative of the same class, but all UGS are shit now.
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>>335985000
The real debate, which was worse, those fuckers or the Masked assholes in Ithryll dungeon?
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>>335985195
Astora Greatsword is great.
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>>335985116
This. I've never felt as inadequate as I did in the Peak with my claymore and zweihander. Those fags just give no shit.

Granted, the latter still works in pvp. Your range is pretty great and it's not impossible to catch them in your first - and thus second - swing, you just have to bait their attacks and then poise through them. I have trouble with people wielding halberds but that's about it.
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Great Axe. They changed her from a hunk of metal on a stick to a hunk of metal on a stick with ornate carvings on it. Also, it's still really strong.
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The Corvian GS is the new Lifehunt Scythe from 1. They fucked Reapers in general IMO, they stole the huge sweeping R2 and made it suck HUGE ass.

>>335982848
He's using the Corvian GS. It does bleed on you for each enemy hit, like the Lifehunt Scythe, so he got bled in one hit I assume
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How shit would going pure pyromancer be in this game?
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>>335985103
So no more Hanks. Sort of.

>>335985150
Was watching a video on Youtube and in the comments someone said hosts will no longer be able to summon infinetely while being invaded. As of the latest patch.
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>>335985238
The eye fuckers. At least your health didn't keep going down after you'd killed the masked assholes
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>>335984698
Shanalottes face ruins the whole pic.
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>>335985327
Treat it like the quality built for magic.
Pretty good since it also nets you dark magic.
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>>335985327
As in, not using any weapons at all? Well it would be a lot more viable than the other games since you can cast a lot more now.
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>>335985238
Remote instableed vs Health fuckery

At least the Jailers leave you with health.
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>no Iron Golem Greataxe

Anything similar to my fun little weapon?
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>>335985327
Trivializes pretty much every boss. You can use Chaos Orb at SL5 and it does ~800 damage.
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>>335985327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UcGfrJ2-5E
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>>335985238
It's not even a debate. The jailers are easily stunned, have no health and can be snuck up on.

The Bloodborne brain dolls are a nightmare.
>a lot of health
>that grab
>come in groups in the Nightmare of Mensis

and don't fkn forget

F R E N Z Y
R
E
N
Z
Y
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>>335985484

Dragon Bone Dagger/Spear.

Both weapons have a shockwave attack. Really useful for invasions when paired with the Obscuring Ring because you can easily knock opponents off ledges.
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>>335983491
Same. I logged 100 hours into a Darkwraith cosplay build that I leveled up gradually over the course of a couple months so I could do PVP in a shitload of different areas.

And now, the Dark Hand can't parry.

Switched to the Murakumo. It's not as good as other comparable ones.
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>>335985345
Oh right, and you can have up to 3 Blue Sentinels invade you as well, but you have to have summoned 0 allies manually beforehand AND had 3 Grapes/Reds invade you.
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>>335981421
>tfw you beat the entire game with +10 heavy caestus

feels good
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Im sure my weapon is just fine, right?
Im sure they didnt nerf it to the point of non existence right?
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>>335985308
Corvia gs hurts the user?
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>>335985707
It's not even in the game anon.
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>>335984598
Heavy it and never look back.
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>>335985752
Yeah it has a bleed build up.
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>>335985290
I really just dislike that area in general. I too went through it first time with a claymore, and I just didn't do any damage, wasn't fast enough to land most hits without trading, and could not stagger them. I hated the enemy layout too. Felt more like a Dark Souls 2 level, especially that stupid fucking place with like 4 big dudes and 7 little ones up to the twinkling torso stone.
Having to cheese encounters by pulling agro with a bow individually to all of them was just tedious, but theres no way in hell you're fighting more than 1-2 at a time.
Playing through it again with the greatsword and I have no motivation to fight anything unless I'm going to summon. I really like the bossfight too, just a really shitty (co-op?) area. Does anyone actually enjoy this area?
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>>335985650
That sounds like a rad play through. I wish leveling was a bit faster at the start so I could muck around with different builds
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>>335985752
It's the Lifehunt Scythe, so yes.
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>>335985308
>>335985752
Yes. For Deacons, the logical step is to swap to a normal Great Scythe. Preferably buffed with Fire/Chaos.
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>>335985535
What's up with that spell? You just run up to someone and cast it for a parry-style stun + massive damage?
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>>335984434
I hope you don't mean the [/spoiler]spear[/spoiler].
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>>335984386
>Works like 70% of the time against okay players and like 95% of the time against r1 spammers

An okay player wouldn't R1 spam so they wouldn't fall for it at all.

If you hit that R1 button more than twice you're shit.
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>>335985847
>Caestus run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKA1zW7aro
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>>335985798
But no Hp loss on hit like lifehunt scythe or chaos blade? All is well then.
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>>335985786
I did sharp, doing basically the same damage at 40 dex, and thats before I put on my sunlight blade and sacred oats, way more powerful than quality
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>>335984821
>http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Vanquisher%27s+Seal
It was a bitch to farm, but boy oh boy did it make unarmed attacks satisfying.
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>>335985879
Pretty much. Anyone who's not shit will just roll away though.
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>>335981421
its the best parrier you sped
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>>335984349
Dancer leggings work great. Basically the same legs but human sized.
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>>335985938
Lifehunt never had on-hit HP loss
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>>335985879
It has a long ass wind up time and doesn't stun unless they stand around like an idiot for 5 seconds.

The reason you use the iron skin havel is so they they r1 spam you like an idiot and you don't get interupted by their attacks
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>>335985327
As someone who is doing a pyromancy build right now, it's insane for PvE

Great Chaos Fire Orb and Chaos Bed Vestiges trivialize enemies and then you can buff your raw ASS and do plenty of damage

You can also make a chaos Astora Greatsword, Dark Sword, or murakumo and enjoy A/A scaling

Witch's Locks is also really fun to use
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>>335986038
You might want to play dark souls again.
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>>335985932
Fuck the deacons so hard. I've had an easy time with every boss but these dick heads are super resistant to my int/dex build and just annihilate me a little under the quarter health point. I don't know what to do.
it was my stopping point for today.
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>>335984091
if yo uwant to chaos it then use the corvian one, it has the best scaling for chaos

that said, im 40/40 int faith and its fucking shit still

reach is woefully sad and the WA is shit only thing its good for is style points
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>>335985028
Notched any good? I figure being able to proc bleed would make up for comparitively lower damage to other weapons.
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>>335984125
Well shit that explains why I had such a hard time.
Managed to beat the game with it at least.
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>>335985932
>Not using Alluring Skulls on that fight making it a joke with any weapon

People are legitimately stupid.
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>>335985858
I'll give you that much.

>>335982295
You should have a backup weapon for tight situations where you need to not get bled. Just use the _______ _Dark_ Sword.
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>>335985920
It's still easy to parry the running attack when they ravioli run at you and sometimes they'll swing three times to catch your roll because that works insanely well due to phantom range and tracking
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>>335986174
He mentions he wasted them all earlier.
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>>335984268
>on disc dlc

this is the first i have heard of any, got anymore info on that bub?
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>>335981421
Roll roll attack
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>>335986167
Same, but it does 10-20 more damage than Straight Swords at the same weapon level and 40/40
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>>335986142
Anon, you're the one who needs to play again. Heck, you could just go look it up right now on a wiki or something. Lifehunt scythe just has bleed build up on your self, it never did damage as well.
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>Shotels don't damage through shields

Whats the fucking point
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>>335985932
how you gonna go fists and not put any points in vigor
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>>335984598
THIS is the best looking greatsword. Wolf Knight would have been had they used the True Greatsword of Artorias instead of the Abyss greatsword.
Artorias
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>>335985879
I've used this in PvP on my pyro build for a while, and it works much much better than I'd like to think it would, it really causes my faith in this player base to plummet.

As long as you condition them to try to roll behind you by throwing a few chaos balls, most hosts eventually fall for it.
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>>335986153
That's the plan, yeah.
Corvian Chaos, 50/50, 4 Attunement, max out at ~140-150.
And a Heavy normal Great Scythe on the side.
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>>335983682
No its because of the flat defense reduction that happens before absorption, which just takes off damage over the top.
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>>335981421
>sword&board
>ever getting raped

nah
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You think they'll ever decide to turn poise on so armor actually means something?
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>>335986378
you will be dissapointed
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>>335986306
Same way you make a Str/Faith build.
Wing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EzZHxJZSeA
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>>335986363
That's an Ultra, and I can't look at that without thinking of scrubs that just l1 spam
You're one of them, aren't you?
It does look good though, needs some balancing imo, its the only weapon thats weapon art doesn't use FP, which is retarded since its WA is really fucking good.
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>>335986462
They'd better do it before they release the Arcanist of the First Cinder version of the game for PS4K and XBox 1.5. I already have all of the achievements for the base game, because I'm a masochist, but I don't think I can put the gimp suit on again for the DLCs if poise still isn't working.
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>>335986513
>Pontiff Salty Pants
>This salt tho
>Last video just said "Grampa Shriveldick!"
This guy is weird.
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>>335986462
Never ever. Fashion souls is forever, you must accept this my son.
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I love sellsword twinblades move set

what's the coolestbest twinblades in the game?
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>>335986281
K knigga, it's not important.
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Still works like a charm. I pick it up and then drop it onto the enemy
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>>335986732
>Fashion souls
>Artificially locked out of the heavier armor types because lol who levels vit because lol no poise
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>>335986812
Is this a riddle
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Do the lothric knights drop their greatsword? The one in the castle. Not the fat one the paladin dude in cathedral of the deep wields.
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>>335986294
>Shotels don't damage through shields

For real? Are lighting shotels worthles now?
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>>335986937
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Lothric+Knight+Greatsword

Yup. It's alright.
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>>335986846
Vit was a mistake.
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>>335986158

It's ok. I think it's best to pair it with a really fast bleed weapon in your main hand like the Barbed Straight Sword.

WA is excellent for inflicting bleed since it the "lasso" hits twice and then the lash hits once more for a total of three hits if you use it at close range.
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>>335986527
Wespon art is parry, anon. It's good how it is, on of the only non straight swords that can be classified in the same tier of viability. The L1 takes so much stamina (I need 29 vit to complete the combo and roll with RoFAP.) I think mincing ultras and normal greatswords is kind of splitting hairs in terms of appearance.

And no, I dont spam l1. That shit gets you parried. The R2 is extremely good with the hyper armor it gets and sometimes plain ass r1s followed by the l2 which initiates the second l2 spin instead of the first is the best way to go.


I have been known to come whirling out from behind the obscuring ring and spamming l1 as soon as the host gets staggered by an enemy though.
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Winged spear in DS2
>Good damage
>Good critical
>Good speed
Winged spear in DS3
>Less damage than the normal spear wich already does no damage
>much slower
>weapon arts is a long charge that does less damage than a normal attack, drains all your stamina and leaves you open to be hit
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>>335986937
You can buy it from the Handmaiden after you retrieve Greirats ashes from the Grand Archives.
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Is kb+m viable this time?

I so want to play with actual controls. I fucking hate controlling a camera with a stick.
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>>335987027
>D/D scaling
Does FROM hate greatswords or something?
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>Godly in Dark Souls 1
>gets nerfed later

>still pretty bad in Dark Souls 2

>back to being great again in Dark Souls 3

What a long, strange journey it's been.
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>>335983694
Flamberge is better in every way.
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>>335983291
Armor has two components: Flat Rate Reduction & Percentage Reduction.

So your 450 purely physical damage from your mundane everyday +10 real life weapon gets reduced by 150 and then loses a percentage of that, meaning you're hitting with 275~300 damage per swing.

Meanwhile your colorful weeb weapon finely crafted from the tortured soul of a dying god and it's shit scaling 200 physical, 300 dark feelings in my skin damage are both reduced by 150, meaning you do 40~50 physical damage and 125~150 damage combined into like, 200 something damage.
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>>335986294
Surely you mean the R1 doesn't.
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>>335981421
>Can't parry with it.
>L1 Attacks with 2 caesti slow as fuck

So mad.
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>>335987276
Not when you sound like a little bitch about it
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>>335987136
I'm just sayin, the l1 is pretty much its weapon art, and it is pretty unpunishable with phantom range, unless you're playing with someone who lives with you.
Like you can't outrange it, even with a halberd (which I use most of the time), you just end up poking over them or getting phantom ranged out, and stunned for 3+ hits.
Its a cool weapon for invading yeah but please don't bring that poopoo into duels
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>>335987317
>Trying to fight Dancer with the BKGA
>Collision in the entire room is bugged to shit and it bounces off the floor every time I try to R1
>End up fighting her only with the Running attack
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>>335987491
People use it exclusively in the offhand for parrying anon.
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>>335987276
>I so want to play with actual controls
But you want to play with kb+m? kb+m is always ass for games that let the camera face a different direction to the player model. There's a reason these games come with a strong recommendation that you use a controller.
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>>335987491
Should say can't parry when using two.
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>>335987491
What are you talking about? It has insta-parry.
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>>335987523
spinsword is garbage. The entire L1 animation is counter Frames.
>Thrust weapon like the Lucerne
>Leo Ring
>Laugh at anyone using it
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>>335981421
Nah, straight swords are OP now.

My favorite weapons now the shitter weapons.
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Is grand archives optional? I hate that place. Hated the duke's. Hate this one even more. All those bookshelves, there's no sense of direction.
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>Regular old Greatswords is lacking like 100 AR

God fuck.
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Yes, Claymore is poo
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>>335987523
Except it isn't, it's thebnatural moveset because the sword is just too good senpai. It's my jam, man. Sorry. I've used some variation of Artorias's sword in every game and I'm enjoying it way too much not to use it for anythinf and everything. It replicates the moves he used in his fight better than the GoA ever has.

I really don't duel anyway, I'm a sl60 +8/+4 invader of ng playthroughs.
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>>335987747
Maybe you should stop and actually look?

Let me guess, you're stuck going in circles in the first room?
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>>335987747
>there's no sense of direction.

This is an odd complaint which I don't relate with at all so I will attack you personally.

You stink.

Also no it isn't optional to stinky people.
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What happened to katanas in this game. I used the uchi for a bit when I got it and it was incredibly unpleasant.

Damage is low and it consumes too much stamina per swing. Did they even want people using katanas or is it just the uchi?
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>>335987284
Nigga it hits hard at 40/40 and you can buff it with gold resin/lightning blade to make it insanely strong
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>>335987747
No, and stop being a faggot, the grand archives is the most well-designed area in the game.
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>>335981591
>R1 spam: the weapon class
Curved swords a shit
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>>335987898
I'd slap you if you were within reach. No to your question, I found the irithyl asshole, activated two elevators, opened like 3 bookshelves with levers a d kindled the gargoyles outside. There's just no end to the place.
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>>335987747
>ever skipping an area
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>>335988040
He was talking about the lothric Knight greatsword I thought

Greatswords are still pretty weak for the most part but the black Knight sword is pretty rad
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>>335987974
Everything hits hard at 40/40

I check out a weapon's page on the wiki to look at scaling and every single one will have that one "dude this does damage at 40/40 refined woah wtf" comment.
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>>335987964
Katanas are fine, anon. You're basically expected to infuse with something and then the Uchi can cause bleed on top of that. It's not a straight sword, but the Uchi is far from a bad weapon.
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Rate my spooky waifu
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>>335988046
I disagree.
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>>335988104
Maybe you're just bad at the game? Or you're playing a caster, they get shit on in that place.
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>try to dual wield
>l1 blocks
>l2 uses only the first hit of the light attack
Who thought this was a good idea to bring back
Remove Miyazaki
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>>335988105
The Grand Archives is kinda a shitty area though, not him but I wish it was optional.
I'm not a fan of the dark souls 2 style enemy placement, its just not fun to deal with a million projectile spams while fighting other enemies melee
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I went pyromancy, so all my spellfus are ruined in PvP.
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>>335988104
If you killed the Gargoyles outside keep going on the top balcony where the knight is. Look around for an exit that leads to a stone courtyard, there's a helpful npc there that should make things a little easier after that.
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>>335988182
Pretty cool actually.
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Level with me here anons, before I get in too deep.

Are spears worth using? I haven't used one since DS1, and I wanted to go back to my first build sicne we're sort of returning to Lordran, but... but I don't want to have to git gud.
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>>335988275
Great Chaos Fire Orb and Chaos bed vestiges are supposed to be really good
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>>335988261
Or maybe it's a shitty maze area. Bet you liked valley of defilement and frigid outskirts.
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>>335988374
They're complete shit with only slightly above average range and no damage at all.
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>>335988273
>million projectile spams
There's also a million places to stand where you're totally safe from projectiles. Learn to use the environment better, anon
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>>335988385
>Chaos bed vestiges

Let's be real, the only people who get hit by this are people who dropped their controller accidentally.
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>>335988397
>Shitting on VoD
m8
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>>335988374
Dragonslayer Spear fucks shit up hard and now has an Ornstein dash associated with its lightning shot.

Drang Twinspears is two spears.
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>>335988308
Alright thanks.
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>>335988385
That's good to know. I just picked up Great Chaos Fire Orb. Now I'm just trying to get through Demon Ruins to get the last items out of the lava.
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>>335988275
Pyromancy is fantastic for PvE and workable for PvP. Sacred Flame is fucking awesome for PvP.

Chaos Vestiges does assloads of damage but I never use it because the spell effect when it lands is fucking massive and you can't see what your opponent is doing if it hits.
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>>335988397
I loved Valley of Defilement. Fuck you.
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>>335981421
>loved the twinblades
>loved the slow ass playstyle of the lances
>loved using two weapons at the same time
>Mfw seeing what they've done
I fucking hate this, why remove powerstancing, why make the left hand the ''shield'' hand again? Why the fuck would I block with a parrying dagger Miyazaki? WHY???
I miss B-Team's Multiplayer design choices.
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>>335988494
>actually likes that shithole
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>>335988347
It all came together when i realized you could use one of the scars as a glasgow smile
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>>335988385
Only black orb is good do to how fast you can cast it.

>Nigger taking a sip
>Gets black balls in the face
>Nigger using big weapon
>Black balls
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>>335988446
>You can hide from the projectiles
Okay thats cool but in order to actually progress in the level you have to face 3 casters shooting at you while you melee 2-3 little thrall niggers who do their stupid ds1 torch hollow charges constantly.
They really coulda done something better with the archives.
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>>335988440

Well that's disappointing. What about scythes? Why do all the weapons I like seem to do shit damage?
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>>335988583
No, fuck you. Anyone who likes that place should be trepanated.
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Just beat High Lord Wolfnir

Should I go to the Smouldering Lake or to Irithyll of the Boreal Valley next?
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>>335988585
Because fuck Dark Souls 2. Twin weapons > powerstance.
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>>335988627
Also huge damage for the FP used in PvE.
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>>335988397
Anon, when you have multiple people disagreeing with you, that's usually a cue to re-examine and re-consider your thoughts, not just mindlessly retaliate. You don't have to like what everyone else does, but if you can't at least take the time to understand and appreciate why others might like something, you're just a total ass.
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Mace is still pretty good I just wish the weapon art wasn't garbage I never end up using it
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>>335988685
No, fuck you!
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>>335988669
Or you could just fight the thralls behind a wall then rush the casters because they're really slow and easy to kill.
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>>335988701
get the fuck out of here, miyazaki
you're a hack
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