This game is fucking great, I just finished it and the ending was fantastic.
which ending?
What actually even is this game? Can you make quality waifus?
I remember a lot of buzz about it around 2011, but people were just mostly shitting on it in comparison to Dark Souls
>>335972001
This happened to me with Valmiro, this game is so progressive
>>335971705
this is the worst game I've played in a long time
It's literally Korean grinding MMO: Singleplayer version
Worst $29.99 spent
Fuck off
>>335972001
TheKilling people as godend. But holy shit post more OC that's amazing
>>335972131
I honestly liked it more than Dark Souls but it's honestly neck and neck. Dragons Dogmas gameplay is better while the lore and shit in Dark Souls is better, though DD's is quite good as well.
>>335971705
For a game with such a ho-hum story throughout, the ending was satisfying as fuck.
>>335972131
Not only can you make waifus you can make a side kick waifu and add other people's waifus to your party
>>335972304
>It's literally Korean grinding MMO: Singleplayer version
It's literally not
Now take this (You) and fuck off
>>335972501
shut the fuck up capcom
>>335972386
Exactly man, after the Dragon the ending reminded me of the Eclipse in Berserk.
Played the game mainly as yellow classes and now I'm going to wipe everything and restart. Planning on going Mystic Knight or one of the red classes. What do you think I should make my main pawn, which inclinations and skills?
>>335972304
>Korean grinding MMO: Singleplayer version
Is there actually an MMO out there with combat as good as Dragon's Dogma? I'd be very interested in it if so. Honestly, I enjoyed Dragon's Dogma one hundred times more than Witcher 3 based on how much more depth the combat had.
>>335973041
>Is there actually an MMO out there with combat as good as Dragon's Dogma?
Dragons Dogma Online, maybe?
>>335973041
>Dragon's Dogma combat
>depth
fucking lmao nigger are you trying to tell me that spamming 2-3 buttons over and over + occasionally pressing 1 additional button to climb a monster has any "depth"
>>335973191
It just sucks that there's no English version of DD Online, same with Monster Hunter Online. Capcom would make a killing if they brought those two over to the West. I know you can use a workaround but even then all the text/dialogue would still be Japanese.
>>335972501
Not him, but it actually is.
The way damage and stats are calculated is fucking retarded.
For example, if an enemy has 50 defense and you do 50 damage, your damage is not 25 like it would be in a normal game, it's literally zero, you do zero damage.
If you do 51 damage, he takes one point of damage. You level up, you now do 52, he now takes 2 points of damage. etc.
Gear and stats are literally everything in the game. You can have all the skill you want, but unless you're stats are higher, you will do no fucking damage no matter how good you are.
I really like Dragons Dogma (BBI is boss as fuck), but the mechanics of the game are fucked.
>>335973296
Alright, name an arpg with more combat depth. Souls would be a good example, but DD's combat depth still puts games like Witcher to absolute shame.
>>335973453
That doesn't really make it any more similar to an MMO than it does any kind of RPG.
And Bitterblack is shit. It's the same levels over and over again and full of annoying enemies that are impossible to deal with without specific weapons, while the main bosses are all easy outside of Daimon who is still easy on certain classes and broken hard for others.
>>335971705
I don't like post game. Too hard, too many hellhounds, nothing to do except fight impossible enemies that rape me.
>>335973296
>I will just ignore all the technology the game has because I'm too dumb to see it
You can throw vials of water at wolves to get them wet. Once wet they'll shake to dry themselves off (like a dog would). During which they are totally defenceless.
Harpies can only lift a certain amount of weight. If you're a large character and holding a lot of stuff, you can run and grab onto harpies as they fly past, doing this will drag them to the ground.
Of course, you didn't know this because you never bothered to even learn. Every enemy in the game has shit like this or more.
And lets not forget for it's genre (open world RPG) it still has the best, most fun to play combat. It's competition is shit like Skyrim and The Witcher series, which don't even come close to DDs combat.
>>335972440
Aaaand downloading now
Just started doing the post game ever fall and goofing off on BBI. Haven't got any too great gear out of either but hopefully soon. Also playing the yellow classes. Mostly assassin for that sweet cheesy masterful kill skill.
>>335973693
The issue is that there's no real reason to do this. That wolf will dodge that vial of water 90% of the time and if he doesn't, you could have taken off half his health with an attack instead. Dragon's Dogma has more depth than it has content and opportunity in which to properly apply that depth. It needs a sequel.
S'been a while.
>>335973608
morrowind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BNxpYz9rk
Video explains pretty in depth how Dragons Dogma is great idea, terrible execution though.
Hopefully the sequel sorts these issues.
>>335972336
>I honestly liked it more than Dark Souls but it's honestly neck and neck. Dragons Dogmas gameplay is better while the lore and shit in Dark Souls is better, though DD's is quite good as well.
i feel you anon
>>335971705
Oh wow, I just redownloaded the game and a thread shows up.
>>335973041
I hear Vindictus is similar.
>>335971705
You thought the main game was great?
Bitterblack is about to blow your dick clean off.
>>335973693
>>335973693
Why would I do that shit which will waste a lot of time when I can just press one button and the wolf is dead in 1 second?
Do you think making things harder and longer on purpose gives it more "depth"?
It's like having a game that's piss easy so you say "Just play blindfolded bro!"
Why would I need to drag the harpies to the ground if I can just one shot them ?
>>335974063
What a whining faggot.
>>335973952
>I would never violate his grace's privacy while he violates milady's privates
>>335973453
Wew lad, armor actually works as it shoud and you whine about it?
DT is always better than DR and more games should have it.
Any mods yet?
>>335974470
k
>>335974689
Aelinore a cute!
>>335974654
Yeah, the first thing I did when I found out was double my stamina and weight. Visual ones are really good too.
>>335974063
Some people are cursed with a bitch voice. What a grating faggot.
>>335974279
Because this works for all forms of enemy of a type. You wont be 1 shotting hellhounds and succubus, but if you're on hard mode, they can and will 1 shot you.
>>335971705
I still have a great time playing DDDA. Sunk more hours than I should have. It has its flaws, mostly with terrible pacing (it's built like a single player mmo it's uncanny), but I can get past that.
Running around killing things is fun enough.
Any advice on beating Death? Only enemy I haven't beaten yet. I'm playing Strider classes so no magic. My pawns are too retarded to use their light magic 90% of the time no matter what spells or AI I give them. I'm level 125ish on normal.
>>335974776
Aelinore a slut that gives it up to anyone that pays attention to her, man or woman
>>335975034
If you have a bow, killing Death is as simple as equipping some blast arrows and chugging 4 conqueror periapts. You'll take off a quarter or more of his health with arrow spam and then he'll run away. And he'll be stunlocked the whole time.
femboy pawns where you at
>>335974063
>armchair game design theorist
ugh. no thanks. I got enough of that shit out of egoraptor
Why is this game so fucking dark?
Beginning of the game is fun, but once you realize how little there is to actually do, and how the Drake and Griffon are the largest monsters you'll really face, it's a real let down.
The Hydra baited me into thinking that I'd actually run into shit like that, and even bigger, considering it was one of the first things it throws at you.
>>335975034
Shoot at it from a far when it's flashing its lantern or sweeping with its scythe. Death is a one trick pony: it follows you, tries to put you to sleep and then kill you. Failing that, it'll teleport behind you. Just stay away from him by running back and forth to do chip damage. He just has a shit ton of health but otherwise, no surprises. I don't even really rely on the pawns to do damage against this boss. Their AI can be really stupid and its instant death anyways.
>>335972304
100% agree with this.
Here's a video on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BNxpYz9rk
>>335975323
So you have to make actual use of your Lantern when in doors and at night. Should be fine during day time though.
>>335975392
Have you done Bitter Black Isle yet? It has some fun enemies.
>>335974063
>>335975470
Stop shilling your shitty video
>>335975392
Yes, they completely wasted a lot of the enemies in the game. Wyrms and Wyverns come to mind. They don't exist until endgame at which point who gives a shit.
>>335975392
>the Drake and Griffon are the largest monsters you'll really face
not even close
>>335975665
I'm sorry I've triggered you.
Sometimes I forget that 4chan is a hugbox for people with shit taste.
>>335975726
I don't think he's counting stuff like the prisoner gorecyclops. He meant that he wanted stuff like the hydra in the open world.
>>335975789
His argument has some holes, though. I agree with his loot system criticism.
>>335975789
In all honesty though he's right that you should, at a very minimum, at least glance over the thread beforehand to make sure your video hasn't been posted already. Unless you deliberately reposted it, which makes you a fucktard.
MASTER
>>335976476
I'LL GET IT'S ATTENTION
>>335976476
AUGHT
>>335976476
FIRE IS BANE TO WOLVES
>>335976476
WORKS
>>335976620
ALL
>>335971705
i put it on my top 20, it really was a blast
im in bitterblack isles grinding a bit to fight the ur-dragon and it turned me off for awhile
>>335974063
Can't believe I wasted half an hour listening to this faggot.
>complains about consumables and shows him buying 300 healing grasses
>complains about wakestones and says you can carry 20 of them and never die
Literally mutually exclusive scenarios. You'll have no stamina if you carry all that shit.
>unanswered questions about the nature of the dragon
Literally explained on the tablet in BBI.
>>335971705
>fun combat
>waifu maker
>okay main plot
>great post game plot
>pawn learning system is great
Still not worth $30. Maybe $15.
>>335977251
YOU
what?
your general died already?
>>335978880
Kind of slow but we still living
>>335978736
>Still not worth $30
>>335978818
SHAN'T
>>335979291
It's an unfinished and unpolished game with some interesting and fun elements in it. It was fun but not worth even the $30 it was sold for on steam.
>>335972304it's alright
>>335980560
>Help! Help! Help! Help! Help!
>>335980560
What's even the point of those joystick waggling QTEs if it's completely impossible to do them.
>>335980410
If Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen isn't worth $30 then most games aren't worth $5.
>>335981201
It's possible with the augment that lets you escape them easier
mashing the face buttons also raises the green bar
>>335981201
its probably possible with that one augment that makes stick wiggling easier :^)
>>335971705
I agree.
>>335981595
>>335981637
>>335981201
>>335980560
You don't even need the augment. The wagglan is NOT limited to the L-stick.
Both sticks AND the bumpers+plus triggers will also help. You can just get out of this stomp with a tiny bit of time to spare.
Yes, it's one of those things that's not said anywhere and most people don't know.
>>335982028
damn i got really hype thinking she was gonna take you up to the dragon
DD>Dark Soals
>>335982156
If the dumb pawn had aggroed it, I might've.
Probably best combat in any RPG.
dang...
>>335982595
It was a big success for the company though?
>>335982595
Mustards hate non-meme games.
>>335982467
>that perfect execution on such a cool looking move
>20% of one lifebar
what the fuck were they thinking
>>335983360
The head is not a weak point in terms of defense. It's only weak for staggering. It might have taken a whole bar away if it had hit the heart.
How do I convince my cousin and friend to play this game?
Its like they are purposely trying to have shit taste by refusing to try a game I recommend.
>>335983732
one bar for hitting a very difficult to reach spot with a grounded, slow, 10-sec charge melee move with the biggest weapons in the game
i feel like there's a disparity between what we each think is "okay damage" since i was a solo assassin and you're a warrior which are the two greatest extremes, i'm used to chunking dragons for 3/4ths of a health bar with each thousand kisses hit and when i saw just how fucking bad warriors were at doing damage i just dropped them (and the game) entirely
as busted as magic archers were would it have killed them to at least let arc be cool
>>335983849
There's plenty of cool as gifs of gameplay, just look some up.
>>335983849
might be japanaphobes or not like rpg's
otherwise, if they like to play mages then show them sorc gameplay, if they like to play warriors thenshow them mystic knight gameplay instead because >warriors
>>335984065
Oh shit, Warrior is a bad class? Here I was thinking I was doing crazy damage with Arc. Since I just beat DD should I just start a new game? Any point of new game plus?
>>335984065
Not any vocations or skills or weapons or play-type work with everything. Thunder-Wyvern's swoopdown are ill suited against warriors for a few reasons. In the first place, it's not a good enemy for warriors (few are).
Also, iirc the great-hammer I have in the webm was at one star and I was trying to get it dragonforged in the first place. With a full blue or golden forged weapon I might have hurt it for a full bar (it's also a blunt weapon type; lower damage per quality/rarity but more stagger and knockback).
>>335984297
Go with warrior anyway. Change the dynamic and gameplay hugely. Everybody needs to play as one for a while.
>>335984518
I mean I just beat DD with Warrior
>>335984065
Magick Archers aren't really that good in the main game. With BBI gear yeah they get pretty damn ridiculous though.
>>335983849
Tell them it's like Shadow of the Colossus with RPG elements. If they say SotC is boring, there is no hope.
Jesus, what I'd do for DD2!
>>335984625
Ah, my bad.
>>335984297
NG+ is just to go back and redo stuff you missed
and yes warrior is the worst class by far, if you really like the whole melee only bit it would be fine to just swap vocations to fighter since they use the same stats warrior did, but fighter is also pretty limited in tactics and versatility as well
basically for a class to be really good it has to have ranged and melee options, but you can overcome the limitations of both with a proper party setup
>>335984625
>>335984868
shit, i'm talking about doing BBI if by "i beat DD" you only meant the base game
if you beat real daemon though then by all means rev up that 2nd playthrough
Best Dragon character in all of vidya.
>>335985146
>>335985302
>>335985146
Great VA too.
>>335985146
If he's so great, how come he has no fanart?
>>335984518
>>335985052
>Go with warrior anyway. Change the dynamic and gameplay hugely.
Did this with the last run of BBI and boy was it completely different and fun change of pace.So different from a assassin/fighter and fuck lichs, those lfying undead bastards are glued to the cieling. Gotta also get those i-frames down with exodus slash for some of those quick shots from drakes and such too.
>>335977994
Don't forget it's explained in the endings. The Senseshal basically tells you the Dragon was made just to temper the Arisen's will to take on the mantle of the creator, and if you somehow die it fucking shows your arisen straight up becoming the dragon.
>>335985436
>The rantings of an upjumped zealot make for tedious listening.
>One path to your survival lies in my defeat. Still my heart, and you stay the coming end. Another path before you . . . is to offer up that which you hold most dear.
>Abandon all delusions of control.
What a savage. I'd let Grigori steal my heart any dayif he hadn't already.
>>335984752
I fucking wish it was more SotC like. Colossal enemies that require some platforming would have been great.
>>335985146
that was the first time i had ever really fought something that huge and menacing in an action combat game
like you saw the drake at devilfire and thought "OH SHIT SON, im fighting a DRAGON" and then you get to grigori and suddenly remember the dude is fucking massive in comparison to that shitty drake.
that coupled with the hype that's been built up for him the whole game and that ridiculously sick playable cutscene sequence leading up to the actual fight with that cool ass music was just too much. I remember having to put up holy fortress to block one move he did where he just fucking exploded the shit out of everything under him with some type of magic, and if even one tick hit me i'd die because lol hard mode. hearing my fucking barrier of a shield getting battered by that and praying i'd have enough stamina to pull through the attack was easily the highlight of that game for me.
if there was ever one game to do dragon slaying right, it was this one.
>>335986159
>sick playable cutscene
jesus fucking chirst
