PC gaming literally dying bros.
How do we save it?
>>335954918
PC gamers have shit taste
If it doesn't have Dark Souls or GTA in its name, and if it isn't a Valve game, there is little hope of it selling well.
>>335954918
2015 was a very shitty year with little good games so of course revenue is lower.
>>335955084
Look at OP pic and reread what you just wrote m8
>>335954918
Valve isn't trying to make money selling games anymore.
They want everything to be a service. Their games are all micro-transaction shit and that is what they are encouraging. They are going to throw paid mods on there again soon to get money from you suckers instead of making, selling or advertising new games.
>valve has ever released any information about how much money it makes
>>335954918
>PC gaming literally dying bros.
Fucking good. Less faggots infesting the superior platform.
Won't have to deal with retards who get scared of computer parts or faggots who think they're "nerdy" cause they can put together a computer.
>>335955209
It does not matter OP pic is bullshit.
Valve has never released sales figures publicly and probably never will until it goes public after gabe dies.
>>335954918
>random website trying to guesstimate how much steam makes
top kek
>>335954918
>Literally 0 public information on Steam profits
>Make this claim
So what retarded metric did you use for this? Steamspy?
I feel like I own everything on Steam. I can't buy anything else until they make more games. I own double the amount of games on Steam that the PS4 has games total.
>>335956153
>what is steamspy
Valve doesn't release sales data officially because it's a sinking ship.
Concurrent users rising constantly but no one's buying games
>>335956258
>Valve doesn't release sales data officially because it's a sinking ship.
>>335956324
>revenue down 30% YoY
>i-it's totally f-fine guys!!!
>>335956258
It's because it's a privately owned company. Private companies don't release their data publicly. Only publicly traded companies do that. Welcome to business 101.
>>335956402
>I get my information from steamspy and they toss random sale prices onto everything based on an average, without accounting major expensive games won't have sales like that at all in the first year
>>335954918
everything in Valve HQ is probably made of gold
there's no way to spend what they make
>>335954918
Digital only fags btfo
Physical media will always be superior
isn't this just because of all the shit indie games and weaboo-pandering?
>>335956492
What the hell are you talking about? They constantly crawl Steam and price is updated in real time, It's just updated once a day.
>>335956258
>>335956402
>comparing April 2015 with April 2016
Either they haven't gotten all the years data yet or Steam made $365 million in one month, in which case yeah, they really are doing fine
good job OP i almost browsed half the catalog without finding a console warrior thread.
>>335956838
PSN made over $5b last FY, so that's not that much, especially with how much it's down YoY
>>335954918
>the month where fucking GTA V was out
Woahhhh
>>335956806
They only crawl open accounts. All private accounts are invisible. And the private accounts are the most active accounts.
>>335956946
>And the private accounts are the most active accounts.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
They extrapolate for the full Steam userbase and countless publishers and indie devs have vouched for their accuracy
>>335955074
>implying valve still makes games
>>335956931
>$365 million a month is not much for just selling other people's games
'not much' for what exactly?
>>335956402
Honestly we just don't know Valve's situation, if this were a public company they'd be fucked as everyone would be pulling out, it isn't even the loss of revenue that matters it's the lack of growth.
With them being private they aren't beholden to shareholders, the market, or anyone but the owners. Add into this that Valve isn't actually that big of a company, and the fact that they deal in digital goods, I'd wager they could take a 75% hit in sales and still be perfectly fine.
>>335954918
>steam represents all of PC game sales
GOG and other services have increased their reach over time. It's called competition, it's a good thing.
The sales suck now
>>335956931
>especially with how much it's down
I haven't used it EVERY single day, but I haven't seen PSN down in the past year. The outages were more during the first 2 years.
>>335957092
Because all the freebie accounts are open by default. People with common sense have private accounts. Especially people who own valuable trade items who don't want to become targets of hackers, scammers, and trade spam.
>>335957131
Not much for industry leader in PC gaming. Steam is synonymous with PC gaming yet they're down 33% YoY even as concurrent users climb
Games are priced too high at launch AND during sales, indie shit has turned the store into the Apple/Android marketplace, GoG is now a very strong rival for sales and some of the most popular games for PC aren't even sold on Steam at all.
key resellers are getting bigger
why buy from steam when i can buy from 5 other sites selling for 50% less
>>335957150
>>335957453
>GOG shills
>>335957241
So no, no facts to back that up beyond baseless speculation and anecdote.
Many pubs and indies have vouched it's very accurate within the given range.
>>335957183
Revenue down YoY you fucking clown. PSN and Steam servers are pretty much never down
>>335957324
Where is anything shown year on year? It's just a snapshot of two months a year apart with zero information on what the rest of the time is like
You're right man, I'm gonna go out and buy a PS4 tonight.
>>335957481
wonder how long until the government intervenes against sites like G2A and GMG
>>335957481
OP is fucking retarded, but keys activated ON Steam count as "sales"/"owners" on Steamspy.
>>335957526
>being a retarded shitposter
Remember to do your part in making PC gaming a better place! Buy more GOOD games like pic related!
>>335954918
Games never go on sale for reasonable prices, even the really old ones. Companies like Activision buying all competitors and milking their IPs and previous releases is the reason everything sucks. Piracy is going up.
I'm completely fine with 90% of Steam just fucking collapsing, the hypersaturation with shit games is something they brought on themselves.
>>335957535
>Many pubs and indies have vouched it's very accurate
[citation needed]
>>335957701
B-b-b-but denuvo!
>>335957481
steam keys count towards owners which is what steamspy uses
>>335957582
Comparing one month this year to one month last year would be comparing YoY. They're down YoY. I could see if Steamspy has posted these stats for other months, but I highly doubt April 2015/2016 is some far outlier especially given the software lineup of April 2015.
>>335954918
get rid of indie trash
>>335957683
Why not play CP with PSP emu? Better art and voice acting.
>>335957805
They CAN'T release stats for other months, as Steamspy started collecting data in April 2015.
>>335957535
M8 you literally have no fact backing yourself up.
>>335957635
where do these sites buy/get the keys from in the first place?
>>335954918
>not getting your facts from the annual report.
>>335954918
Can steam just die and be replaced by DRM-free blu ray based media already?
>>335957635
As soon as they intervene with the whole item crate system that barely circumvents anti-gambling laws
>>335954918
Refunds
It's a good thing Valve isn't owned by public stockholders or hedge fund managers
>>335957856
Its just different. I plan on getting the PC version and the 3DS version to see the differences. I think there's some appeal in the PC version's art and voice acting. The PC version also has an extra exclusive chapter not present in the PSP/3DS versions.
>>335957757
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1022509
If anything, they overestimate a tad
>>335957897
Damn, forgot steam spy was so new. Hope he continues to do this monthly, it's really insightful, especially when paired with NPD/GfK/Chart track/Media Create data and PS Store top downloads.
>>335958046
they buy keys with stolen CC's and sell it on their site's marketplaces
>>335958107
That extra chapter is coming in the new 3DS edition.
Holy shit, does this mean that Steam does ~$4bn in revenue each year?
>>335957635
the government doesn't care about gray area sites. only they would go near is the pixel trading that is effectively unregulated gambling.
>>335954918
Less open world stuff, more actual content. Half Life 3. Origin and UPlay haven't helped.
>>335958145
Absolutely, it's even better when you compare to the original stats that guy from Arstechnica did.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/steam-gauge-addressing-your-questions-and-concerns/2/
Look how little CS:GO sold at the time.
>>335958145
>neogag
>>335958190
SHUT UP
DELETE THIS
OY VEY
>>335954918
that's what happens when only mediocre games come out and you complete screw up steam sales. No daily/flash/community deals completely killed the hype for a lot of people
>>335958173
You sure?
http://forum.marvelous-usa.com/index.php?showtopic=27571&st=150#entry919878
>>335957683
>Shitty MH clone
>Butter up da POOPER: Shittier Art Edition
>anyone with taste played it on Vita already
>What in the fuck is DIS?
>>335956631
No, it's because they ruined steam sales.
>>335954918
Steam sales are down because it is too hard to find the games in all that so deep pixel indyshit
sales suck and most people on steam are either playing CS:GO, DotA, TF2, or spending their entire life playing skyrim or civ 5
>>335957805
>Comparing one month this year to one month last year would be comparing YoY
Except that's totally meaningless with videogames since Steam's revenue depends on what games are released when and how popular they are. Comparing two months to each other shows nothing
April 2015
>GTA V PC release
>DS2 Scholar of the First Sin
>Crypt of the Necrodancer
>Kerbal Space Program
April 2016
>DS3
>......
>OMG REVENUE IS DOWN!
>>335957757
>steamspy is inaccurate
I LOVE this meme
>>335958501
PSN and XBL revenues are both up YoY. Using four games that sold about 4-5m total that month and damage controlling that as the reason it's down YoY is pretty pathetic.
>>335957635
GMG probably just buys retail copies or keys in bulk in order to get their discounts, G2A is a bit more shady.
Sell thousands more unfinished early access games.
And even LESS quality control. Even less than the current zero quality control.
>only 365 million in the first quarter
damn they might not even make 1.5 billion this year gaming is dead bros...
>>335958616
Oh it's just a 'muh sales' consolewar shit. I love it when you guys try and pretend that you aren't blatant neofag crossposters
>>335957453
>>335957150
>GOG
>A drop in the ocean of PC sales
lol
>>335958373
>God Eater 2
>shitty MH clone
But its faster and modern, and therefore better than MHin my opinion. I hate MH games but love most of its "clones". MH is too slow and locks players into annoyingly long animations with no proper-lock on mechanic.
>anyone with taste played it on Vita already
Not everyone has a Vita, and some people may have just not gotten around to it
>what the fuck is dis
Think Limbo, but Japanese. And instead of controlling your character, you control a fairy that guides the character.
You can play a sort of promotional demo here:
http://nippon1.jp/consumer/hotarunonikki/
>>335956946
>And the private accounts are the most active accounts.
you forgot to factor in the money from microtransactions anyway
>>335958694
Goyim, where can I buy Valve shares?
>>335958616
YoY doesn't mean much when it comes to discussing video games. What is hard to understand about this?
>>335958501
You are severely over-estimating CotN and Kerbal
If they deserve to be on that list you may as well add Gungeon to 2016
>>335954918
Round up every Indie dev and put them all in a gas chamber.push the green button
>>335958728
>get BTFO
>b-but you b-browse neogaf!!
>I s-sure told h-him!
And yes I do browse NeoGAF. Problem?
I think there's lots of factors that are hard to isolate from each other.
I think something not mentioned is that PC specs for games have gone way up since the 360 gen died. People don't have machines that can run the games so buy less.
>>335958616
I wonder if better PSN and XBL discounts are eating into Steam's sales.
>2015
>oil drops to the lowest its been since 2008, and eventually even breaks the $20/barrel 'the apocalypse is nigh' pricing.
>NA economy is hit fairly hard by this
>year two of trash economy
>HURR WHY AREN'T PEOPLE SPENDING MONEY LIKE BEFORE WHEN THE CRASH WAS PREDICTED TO ONLY LAST UNTIL Q42015
>>335954918
What the fuck is this supposed to be, a source? It isn't one
>>335958862
>>335958728
Of fucking course.
That data was released quite a few days ago, Neogaf has a thread today, then shitposters come out of the woodworks
>>335959000
but oil prices are rebounding a bit and the economy is still shit
>>335959000
I had similar thoughts, but I'm not sure it's worse since last year. I agree that games are getting hit by young people with less disposable income searching for better value for money.
>>335954918
>Paid mods platform is dying
Thank fucking god. There are other websites with deals just as good as steam. The faster Gabe's money making machine dies, the better.If I were naive, I'd even say it might encourage them to work on HL3 instead of cosmetics to make money
>>335956258
I hate valve but i don't think valve will sink in the next 15 years. There are, unfortunately, many more ways valve can make money off their users. For instance paid mods, selling user data and the likes
>>335958694
>first quarter
In a month
>>335959091
this is literally one of the worst memes
>>335958046
>buy thousands of keys for nothing during steam sale
>sell them slightly higher than what you paid
>>335954918
Obviously, it's because gamers are modding their games to enjoy them longer. So they can now justify charging for mods.
>>335958862
>>335958616
You sonyggers are a fucking cancer you know that right?
>PSN and XBL charge you money for a service that Steam just gives you for free
>'hahaha look at PSN and XBL revenue compared to Steam! This means my megacorporation makes more cash even if it's directly by fucking me in the ass!'
>'le PC gaming is dying see!'
Hang yourself.
>>335959000
why the fuck have oil prices gone down so much anyways? I heard it was about some russian regulatory thing that stopped existed for some reason
>>335956258
I'm glad someone gets it
It's just like Microsoft not releasing sales info for xbox ones anymore.
If you got it, you flaunt it. And Steam don't got it. All it's got is 12 year olds playing TF2.
>>335958501
>Crypt of the Necrodancer
>Kerbal Space Program
We have FotM indie games every month. Very minimal impact on total revenue
>DS2 Scholar of the First Sin
So a DLC rebundle of a Souls game? We had a mainline Souls game release this month, so what's your point?
>GTA V PC release
Yeah, because I'm sure this singlehandedly accounted for 33% of revenue that month.
>>335954918
I know most people on this board are literal children, so let me educate you.
Valve is a private company. They don't have to release numbers like public traded share holdings like Activision-Blizzard or Sony.
These numbers are not actually true.
Try again OP
>>335959202
Contracting economy, fracking and companies trying to kill fracking, OPEC countries refusing to cooperate in creating a cartel instead flooding the market.
>>335958862
surprised you've found time to shitpost on /v/ inbetween fapping over shitty spoilers from UC4
>>335959385
wow I had no idea fracking was making that big of an impact
>>335959291
Valve are a private company, they rarely release data.
>>335959297
GTA V PC was fucking huge tbqfh.
>>335959337
And private companies don't have to worry about stupid shareholders that only care about short-term gains unless Gaben wants a focus on short-term gains.
>>335958862
You aren't welcome here, neofagger
>>335959503
Even a year later it's only at 4m
For comparison, GTAV total across all platforms has sold >60m
>>335959337
They're not literally true but Steamspy's data is pretty accurate. I doubt it's *that* inaccurate.
>>335959385
>>335959481
*countries trying to kill fracking, sorry.
>>335959385
> contracting economy
Where the fuck do you live, Brazil, Venezuela, Russia?
>>335959297
>because I'm sure this singlehandedly accounted for 33% of revenue that month.
Probably not the entire revenue but definitely a substantial amount. Even a couple million copies in the first month (where the bulk of the sales occur) would account for $120 million of the difference.
>>335959607
4m*$60 = $240m. GTA V could represent the entirety of the difference. Shit adds up, man.
Much like one huge film (Toy Story 3, Frozen, Star Wars etc) can distort an entire years box office.
>>335959645
Well... no, but I was talking about 3rd world countries. China is the big one. Where do you think the oil consumption growth was coming from? I believe the 1st world is actually using less oil than it used to these days.
>>335959608
Steamspy's estimates of ownership are pretty reliable, and you can reproduce them yourself by sampling steam and doing the projecting yourself.
Estimating revenue from tracking Steam prices is not something I'd be confident in doing. Not all items on accounts on Steam were even bought through Steam. I suspect that you'd end up overestimating sale prices.
>>335959797
>>335959607
https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/34cfih/steamspygrand_theft_auto_v_has_atleast_2_million/
>April 2015, 2 weeks after GTA V Release
>2 million owners according to Steamspy
Case solved.
>>335959797
No, that would be $36m because Steam only gets a 30% cut.
>>335959981
Even worse than the sony shills from neogaf.
Kill yourself.
>>335959967
I'd say it's accurate enough to get a ballpark estimate as to whether its expanding or contracting. It's a huge difference.
I think the reasons are as complicated as fuck, though.
>>335960205
Steamspy is estimating total revenue - not Valve's cut.
>>335960205
He's talking about Total Revenue, you fucking retard, like the pic in OP.
>>335959967
>>335959967
>Steamspy's estimates of ownership are pretty reliable
assuming everyone's account is set to public
The problem with Steam is the lack of quality control. The store page gets drowned in shovelware and potential customers interested in buying games can not find good ones when looking for a new game to buy. The shrinking average price of new games on Steam is direct result of more and more trash getting onto the platform that can't even be sold at decent prices.
It doesn't help that half of Steam's features aren't even about video games, further watering down the chance getting in touch with new video games or their content. It has become an awful platform for anyone who just wants to buy and play games, it's all about social circlejerking and bragging rights nowdays.
>>335960390
>I don't know SHIT about statistics and how do they work!
>>335960390
It's public by default and very few give enough of a shit to change that.
>>335960390
>what are statistics
It wouldn't matter unless people who have private profiles have a very specific taste in mass.
April 2016 isn't even over yet!
>>335956258
If all else fails you do know Valve can just whip out HL3, right? There's no fucking way this game would be a flop, just imagine the amount of free advertising by retards via memes. This would give them at least 5 more years in the extremely unlikely case that they could go bankrupt.
>>335960418
I don't think the majority of purchases are going to be from people randomly browsing the store, or even looking at the front page. It's more likely that someone finds out about a game from some other source then goes on steam to find it rather than just searching for "RPG", or something, and trying to find a game from there. The amount of games on a digital store isn't really an issue.
>>335960354
Yes, that would be Steam's total revenue. Only 30% goes to Steam
>>335960716
Private profile people obviously play a lot more weeaboo games than everyone else... why do you think they're set to private?
>>335954918
Don't Steamspy themselves constantly say that it takes about 1 - 2 weeks for their sales data on games to be at all accurate?
So why are they trying to calculate the total revenue for April when they're potentially two weeks behind?
>>335960973
One of my sjw women friends plays a ton of Huniepop. It's confusing
>>335960523
People with more valuable accounts are more likely to keep their's private in order to protect it whereas scammers who never buy games don't care and will keep it public. This could skew the statistics.
>DENUVO WILL SAVE PC GAMING BY ENDING PC PIRACY
>PC sales down already
Toppest kek.
>>335957683
>vita is shit all it's games are terrible weeb trash
Hey guys look at these great games coming to pc
>>335961365
>cracker stopped giving a shit about denuvo games
>game have less sales
>game company silently start releasing crack for their denuvo games
>sales go up
>>335960281
You can't estimate a trend from two data points.
I also suspect that the degree to which you overestimate sale price will vary in nontrivial ways as the various other sources of steam keys shift in performance. Humble Monthly bundles may do better for average effective sale price for titles sold than a previous year's groupees dumps did for their respective titles. Policy changes by Riot might impact the perceived trustworthiness of certain key resellers, which may shift effective sales prices.
I mean you can make a really simplistic estimate, but I don't think it's necessarily valuable to anyone.
>>335961742
>soon all games become DRM free
>>335960973
I coincidentally do, but the reason my account is private is that it's dumb to leak information about yourself on the Internet.
>>335961947
id prolly buy more games if that happens
seriously, fuck logging into DRMware to play my games
>taking the average of all prices on steam
by the way im on steam, steamspy is fucking shit, stop fucking using it, its only accurate if you have more than 100000 sales, because then the margin of error is smaller
>>335962037
Same. The new Deus Ex game looks to be good, but there is no way in hell I'm buying it with any DRM on it. Hell, if they have Denuvo or whatever on it, I'll wait for a crack. Even if it takes forever. If that's the case they just actually lost a sale.
>>335961173
If it was a massive amount of people like 30%.
>>335961523
I never said the Vita was shit. They were great on the Vita, and they're great now.
>>335954918
More games came out in 2015 worth getting than 2016.
>>335962193
i wanted to buy Mad Max,Just Cause 3 and the new NFS but Denuvo made me change my mind
2 bad
>lots of people already own most of the worthwhile games on steam from steam sales of previous years which were better than the shitty sales we get now
>no new good games being released
>only shit shovelware
>everyone already owns all the popular shit shovelware
>>335962190
>by the way im on steam, steamspy is fucking shit, stop fucking using it, its only accurate if you have more than 100000 sales, because then the margin of error is smaller
You're an idiot.
>>335961173
Here, your entire argument destroyed.
>>335962541
A small percentage of Steam users are the whales that buy most of the games.
>>335962541
Bullshit. I check profiles every now and then and they're almost always private.
>>335962849
>Muh anecdote
>>335962738
Can you say with certainty that a big enough percentage of those whales have private profiles?
>>335962849
>I have more data than a fucking bot that checks hundreds of thousands of profiles daily
Okay
>>335962849
>>335962738
>>335962541
1% because 99% of Steam profiles own 0 games and used only for scamming.
>>335963054
>>335963027
He could be lying
>>335963054
No. The profiles are private, so their contents are indeterminate.
I know I'm a private Steam whale and that's it.
But Sergey's own estimates from public profiles last year was that 1% of public Steam profiles accounted for 33% of the public ownership of games on Steam. So that private 1% could represent a lot of money.
>>335963457
>But Sergey's own estimates from public profiles last year was that 1% of public Steam profiles accounted for 33% of the public ownership of games on Steam
wrong
>>335963457
It's not that I'm saying that 1% doesn't have a big number of games.
Just that it makes no sense that private profile users to just have such a disparity compared to other users.
>>335963583
It would make perfect sense for "power users" to not display their Steam profiles, to avoid hacking attempts.
>>335963665
When a truckload of those powerusers like the spotlight?
Nah
>>335963665
A power-user would use something called 2-step verification.
>>335959590
I miss her.
>>335963665
Power users flaunt their status.
>>335963767
I think you overestimate the number of furries interested in advertising their furry backgrounds. I'd rather not have Sergey's relatives trying to brute force my account.
>>335955209
The current year hasn't finished yet, retard.
It's because of denovo and PS4. Denovo is the most inconvenient DRM of all time and the PS4 is the best alternative to PC gaming of all time. People are dropping PC and heading for consoles.
>>335964095
Do you think that you have a point?
That doesn't stop people attempting. It doesn't stop people trying to contact you and harass you.
The Russians will even try to get into your e-mail.
>>335964152
>People are dropping PC and heading for consoles.
That has been happening since like forever
>>335964205
Oh, and they will also try to impersonate your friends.
>>335963828
2 step verification came out AFTER people started getting hacked because they had expensive items. Everyone went private to avoid the backpack scanning sites. I used to get spammed all the time because I owned a couple of Unusual hats. So I went private. Then months later we finally got 2 step verification.
>>335964205
>attempting
>harass
Oh no, I'm getting HARASSED on the Internet!
Make a Patreon and get money, faggot.
>>335956238
>I own double the amount of games on Steam that the PS4 has games total
so you have 4 games on steam?
>>335964506
I'm already pretty rich anon, so I don't think I need you to give me money. Plus my account is private so I don't have to deal with white niggers.
This is you not having a point.
>>335964335
>hey its me ur brother
errytime
>>335954918
PAY FOR YOUR SHIT
Is the PC market bigger than the console market? I would figure so, but you guys make it seem the opposite.
A few things could explain this
>Most power users likely have all the games they want by now
>Steam sales are not what they used to be and are more boring
>Community market
>Refunding shit games
>>335958734
Kind of feel the opposite. I played Toukiden first and then got into MH, and haven't looked back since.
>MH is too slow and locks players into annoyingly long animations with no proper-lock on mechanic.
You're committed to every attack/action you do, getting hit during them or healing is practically getting punished for it. If anything it makes it much more satisfying to kill a monster than it is in other games.
Camera control granted can be annoying without an accessible means of adjusting it.
But too slow? Shit can go very fast with multiple people and today's monsters are now more mobile than ever. Hardly anyone is fond of the 20-30 minute slugfests with the huge elder dragons though, that's a given.
>>335954918
>Steam is all of PC gaming
Kill yourself
>>335965408
No, but it's larger than people think.
>>335956238
You have 2024 games on Steam?
>inb4 you backpedal
>>335965408
The PC market is not as focused.
Facebook, LoL, WoW, and Steam do not necessarily have huge overlap. So LoL can bring in as much as CoD, but its users don't necessarily buy a bunch of games on Steam.
The typical master race /v/ermin probably doesn't keep tabs on the latest Facebook games.
>>335965408
It depends what you mean
Is MMO subscriptions, micro transactions, Facebook gaming, etc. more profitable than the console market?
The answer is yes.
Are game sales on PC higher or more profitable than on console?
The answer is no.
>>335965852
>more profitable
Yes.
90% of PC sales are digital.
Digital gives the most %profit to publishers and devs.
So basically 33% of Steam's previous income was games people wanted to return within 2 hours
>>335966130
And the majority of Steam sales are when games are in humble bundles or less than $5.
>>335966660
Nice lies, look at Dark Souls 3.
>>335966735
You mean the game that sold more on PS4 than any other platform?
>>335966907
What does that have to do with what he said?
>>335966907
Nice lies
>>335966907
He means the game in the #1 top sellers list at $60 contrary to your idiocy, sonypony.
wtf bros...i thought pc gaming made the most money? what do you mean people only spend money on 5 pc games and pirate or ignore everything else? thats fucking bullshit!
>>335966907
But it didn't?
>>335967060
>>335967401
>he thinks 700k is anywhere close to the console sales
>>335968021
~800k.
>>335967135
Exceptions to the rule don't disprove the rule
If Steam really were that profitable, you'd see AAA PC exclusives. Where are they?
>>335968102
Woweeeee
Meanwhile, Bloodborne sold 1m in the same time frame.
gg no re
>>335968287
Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
So bad.
>>335968190
PC gamers are conscious costumers and couldn't care less about your AAA casual pandering garbage
Theres been fuck all decent game releases at the start of this year compared to the last.
>>335968406
TOP KEK
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>>335968190
Tell me 3 PS4 or X1 console AAA exclusives that AREN'T backed by Sony or Microsoft.
As there's no "PC owner", why the fuck would they make exclusive AAA games for PC?
>>335968287
Of course it sold 1m, nogamestation owners are absolutely thirsty for any games at all
>>335968473
Nier: Automata
Dragon Quest XI
Final Fantasy XV (not on PC)
Kingdom Hearts III (not on PC)
Destiny (not on PC)
Rock Band 4 (not on PC)
>>335968764
Nier Automata is coming to PC?
>>335968809
Nope.
>>335968764
>Nier: Automata
>AAA
Do you know the meaning of AAA? Are you dumb?
>Dragon Quest XI
>PS4 AND 3DS
>AAA
Do you know the meaning of exclusive?
>Final Fantasy XV (not on PC)
That's AAA, finally.
Too bad it's coming to PS4 AND X1, and is pretty much coming to PC at a later date. Not exclusive at all.
>Kingdom Hearts III
X1 & PS4.
>Destiny
PlayStation 3
PlayStation 4
Xbox 360
Xbox One
Sure is exclusive here.
>Rock Band 4
X1 & PS4. Not exclusive.
>>335968764
>Rock Band 4
http://archive.is/8PpeI
Rest in piss.
>>335969142
The conversation is about the profitability of Steam and PC, if it really were that profitable these games would have PC releases.
They don't.
>>335969209
>not funded
never ever
>>335969209
>PC is such a good platform for devs!
>can't even scrape $150 together for a port
Pcucks on suicide watch
>>335969296
The reply was to the asinine post here
>>335968190
>If Steam really were that profitable, you'd see AAA PC exclusives. Where are they?
Which makes absolutely no sense at all.
If a game is AAA, and is NOT backed by a hardware manufacturer, the game is multiplatform. 99% of the time.
Multiplatform of course doesn't mean that it WILL come to PC, but it's also not exclusive to a single platform.
It's like saying
>Well if the PS4 is so profitable, why Rockstar doesn't make GTA exclusive to it!!!!?!?!?
Which is fucking retarded.
GTA V came out April last year. That's why. OP is a shitty shitposter.
>>335969531
Alright, let's change it to this
If Steam really were that profitable, where's Destiny, KH3, FFXV, DQXI, Nier 2, and Rock Band 4?
Literally no reason not to.
Sony or MS have no say in it, so where's the PC release?
Guess the devs and publishers don't see the source of income as being large enough to warrant the effort of a port.
>>335969349
>>335969482
lmgtfy.con/?q=frets+on+fire
>having an emotional investment in the success or failure of a company just because you're a customer
Is there anything more degenerate?
>>335954918
And it costs valve fucking nothing to run steam. They spend all of their funding on the snack bar to feed Gaben.
>>335969925
>shitty knockoff indie game
Wew lad
>>335969986
It's because if steam goes under we lose all of our games that we don't actually own.
>>335954918
Not a lot of big AAA games have come out this year. Really the only big one is Tomb Raider
>>335970140
Guys, I'm actually scared. What if this happens?
I just spent $1 on Her Story, but what if my HDD bricks and Steam goes under?
At least Gone Home is on console now, it sucks that we lost a killer app, but at least I'll be able to play it again if Gaben dies.
But I'm really worried.
Guys.
What do we do?
>>335970386
Sucks to be you, I got a repo of steam cracks and a backup of all my downloaded shit.
>>335970069
still more functional and has less input delay than rb4
Maybe if steam starts to fail theyll finally make half life 3
>>335970484
Slow down there, champ.
It's tiring chasing these goalposts.
>>335969852
Now your post isn't as retarded as it was.
4 of those are from Japanese devs that only recently started seeing PC as a viable platform. A truckload of them still think PC is something only usable by perverts with their porn games, as the majority of management of those companies are old-ass japanese. Even then they're warming up to the idea, see all the interviews with FFXV people.
1 of them is from a genre that's known to not work that well on PC, especially because of the "get-together" factor. Not many people would bring their PC close to a TV and buy all the instruments to play that game, that's something console owners are more used to.
And even them started to get bored at it, as the sales of that genre dropped dramatically over the years. That crowdfunding shit was to see if there was a big enough audience on PC to warrant the port.
There wasn't, the end. Some genres work better on certain platforms. You ever saw a MOBA being super-successful on consoles?
Some of the most profitable games in the world are MOBAs, and those aren't on consoles.
And the last game is a MMO, a genre where dozens of games have tried again and again to succeed on the PC and where only a small part of them did, while the rest of the market was gobbled up by WoW. Also the money spent to SUPPORT a MMO on PC is way higher than consoles. See how Ubisoft are screwing shit up with The Division.
PC is profitable as hell. Indies & big publishers get more money per copy than on consoles, but certain genres may need a bigger initial cost to do well on PC, that's why some don't care.
>>335970673
>shitty knockoff
>uh it's actually better
>haha goalposts :)
typical
>>335970482
I just lost all my Nost progress when Blizzard shut down the server. I don't think I could deal with losing all my Steam games.
Where will I play The Stanley Parable if Steam shuts down? Where will I buy my mods from?!
>2005
>PC GAMING IS DYING
>2006
>PC GAMING IS DYING
>2007
>... ANY SECOND NOW
>2008
>STILL DYING
>2009
>PC GAMING IS DYING EVERYONE
>2010
>PC GAMING'S GONNA KEEL OVER ANY SECOND NOW
>2011
>IT'S DYING EVERYBODY
>2012
>PC GAMING DYING
>2013
>HOLY CRAP! PC GAMING LOOKIN PRETTY SICKLY RIGHT NOW
>etc
>>335970834
>post a link to Rock Band 4 port
>doesn't realise the kickstarter failed
>posts an indie knock instead
>not moving goalposts
Okay, kid
>>335971059
>doesn't realise the kickstarter failed
what did he mean by this
>>335971110
Rock Band 4 PC port kickstarter didn't get backed, because despite crying for a port, PCucks are actually a fickle bunch
>>335971232
It's fig, mongoloid, and no one wanted to pony up $1.5M for a port. It wasn't for a want of trying on Harmonix's part.
>>335971232
are you seriously still under the impression that I didn't already know about this? christ you are dumb as shit
>despite crying for a port
>>335971232
>kickstarter
Wrong
>crying for a port
It literally came out of nowhere
>1.5 MILLION for a port
Suuuure
>Steam is PC gaming
Blow me.
>>335971521
>It literally came out of nowhere
>implying RB4 threads weren't filled with "PC WHEN?" just like every other game that isn't announced for PC
pc gamers only play cheap indie games, cheap ancient games, or free-to-play gimmick games. the actual market for serious games on steam is tiny compared to consoles.
>>335971642
[citation needed]
>>335971642
Show me the change.org petition or it never happened.
>>335971642
You're seriously using that, especially on this fucking board where 95% of the posts are shitposts, as proof?
Come the fuck on, be happy I didn't say those posts were
>falseflagging sonyponies
>>335954918
>Steam is the only platform for PC gaming
>>335971912
it's the largest, by far.
>>335971912
It has a near monopoly. GoG has like 5-10%.
Consider the following: Steamspy is not accurate and only tracks game sales.
It's not counting DLC, nor microtransactions which is where a huge amount of profit is made (especially in Valve games).
It's also not counting market place sales, which are millions and millions of dollars a day, of which valve get a 10% cut.
hwat
>>335973050
> Steamspy is not accurate
Yes it is
>>335954918
A lot of people has been using GoG lately.
>pc gaming is declining
>nintendo is dying
>microsoft is a joke
we did it, sony bros
>April last year had the monumental release of GTA5 that topped the chart for weeks, even months
>HAHA LOOK PC GAMING IS DYING
Cute. The only reason why you don't see a similar drop for PSN or XBLA is because consoleplebs have to pay for their overlords to play online every month like a good boy.
