>PSN earned more money in one year than all of Nintendo combined
I'm worried for the state of this industry, gentlemen...
How the fuck does a paid service to use your own internet to play online make more than all of Nintendo?
NX will probably have paid internet too.
>>335935854
>Nintendo picks up sub internet instead of making gmaes or going 3rd party
>>335935854
Nintendo would be foolish not to. It's an acceptable practice.
>>335935642
Because Nintendo has made consecutive bad decisions regarding their video games
>>335935945
Worked fine for Sony
>people use PSN to play games
>nintendo is barely making any games
Seems pretty clear to me
>>335936008
Not really. Supporting paid online is more cancerous than anything else.
>>335935642
You have to consider that Nintendo was popular back in the olden times, where inflation wasn't as severe as today and everything costed less. Also, Nintendo has not taken advantage of the paid internet, but that might just be because Nintendo tries to let us have fun more than focusing solely on profits, which is good, but Nintendo may need to try more on the "profits" cannon if they want to start making a better buck.
>>335935642
People prefer to pay extra for premium Internet and free games. I know I do. Nintendo needs to get with the times.
>>335935642
>PS4 has 10x more units sold than Wii U and has paid online
hmmmm
>>335936675
Steam is the best online service and is completely free.
How many people paid $60 that year for basic online functionality?
>>335936675
>premium Internet
You mean the stuff that almost everyone else gets for free?
>>335935642
>Everyone ITT doesn't know PSN =/= PS+
>Everyone ITT is actually retarded
PSN is the PlayStation store
PS+ is the subscription service
>>335936560
>Nintendo tries to let us have fun more than focusing solely on profits
holy shit
>>335936529
It's acceptable to normies. They pay twice for their own internet to play P2P matches online and think they're paying for "servers".
>>335936778
Its $50 a year.
>>335936897
Prove that both are not tied together
>>335936897
Show me where they say PS+ is not included.
Let me give you a hint, they sell the membership through psn and you activate your store bought codes through psn
>>335936675
if you give money to someone whatever you get in return is not free
>>335937003
I just did.
PSN is the store.
PS+ is the service.
Burden of proof is on you to prove that they've rolled PS+ sales into PSN figures.
>>335937079
>hand cashier $80
>get free groceries to put in the plastic bags I bought
>>335935642
>How the fuck does a paid service to use your own internet to play online make more than all of Nintendo?
You're aware you buy DLC, games, and films off it as well, right? It's not the £5 a month sub charges they made that with.
>>335936008
I wouldn't say acceptable, more tolerated because there isn't anything you can really do.
They don't give a shit if you bitch and moan because there are plenty of children on every platform with their parents credit card
>>335935642
>he bought a WiiU
>>335937224
>>335937043
You're acting like PS+ sales are the only contributor to these figures. They aren't.
>>335936675
Nintendo Network literally Delivers a more Reliable service than PSN though. It's a fact.
>>335937283
>he bought a ps4 instead of getting the ps4.5
>>335935642
Please don't post threads that source permanently banned member.
I used to love Nintendo, I really did, but I am playing my PS4 so much more. My Wii U is actually collecting dust, and I only turn it on now to play Smash when people come over.
>>335937289
Nice backpedal. I neither said nor implied that. In fact I did the opposite by using the word "included" which suggested that there was and I am aware that there are other sources of income.
When in the past years Nintendo posted better profits than Sony, you said profits didn't matter.
Now sony makes more profit than Nintendo and suddently profits matter.
>>335937325
Ayy lmao
Nintendo Network is easily the worst of all 3 online services, the only benefit is you don't have to pay for it.
Nintendo is still in the dark ages when it comes to online. The fucking eShop is still archaic as fuck.
>>335937325
No it doesn't, dumb tripfag
>>335937428
It took me 15 minutes to find the ni-oh demo on psn. It's a UI shitstorm.
>>335937397
>I neither said nor implied that
Yet everyone else in the thread did, and still is.
I said everyone ITT, nobody cares if you said "b-but you buy PS+ through PSN!".
Again, PSN =/= PS+.
It includes everything from PS Now, to Vue, to DLC, to games and so on and so forth.
Nobody cares about you, you special little snowflake.
>>335937428
>>335937451
Prove me wrong.
>Number of times PSN was down the past 3 years
29, 4 of which were scheduled maintenance
>Number of times Nintendo Network was down in the past 3 years
4 times, all for scheduled maintenance.
>>335937345
Why not just wait 20 years then you can pick up a PS5 for really cheap at a garage sale. Or better yet, why don't you just do nothing with your life and when your 80 kill yourself because you spent the last 60+ years shitposting, fuckface.
>>335937581
>It took me 15 minutes to scroll down to games, then scroll down to demos, then click on NiOh
Not my fault you're an actual retard
>>335936560
>where inflation wasn't as severe as today and everything costed less.
Snes games new were 60-80 just the same price as games now.
>>335937428
>The fucking eShop is still archaic as fuck.
Why? Besides showing the size of the games as "blocks" instead of bytes like everyone else I don't see anything wrong with it.
>>335937693
You are a brave console warrior.
>>335937581
What the fuck, anon. You can either search NIOH in the search bar, or go to "Demos." Come on, shit.
>>335937591
If everyone else is saying that and nobody cares about me then why did you directly confront me by saying I was acting like PS+ was the only source? It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing if you were replying to me.
>>335937653
hypocrite
>people ignore the fact people also purchase games on PSN.
>>335937830
Tried, but search didn't bring it up at the time.
>>335937768
>games tied to console, not account
>can't gift games to friends
>can't purchase games across multiple platforms at once
Off the top of my head
That isn't even mentioning the ridiculous pricing that Ninty has on there.
Fucking full price for launch games on the eShop.
>>335935642
Who the fuck is ZhugeEX?
>>335937857
Well you got me there.
>>335935642
Because psn sells games too you retard. Their flash sales and shit are catching up to steam and many are digital only this gen.
>>335937803
It's quite literally as simple as
>click on the PSN icon on your homepage
>scroll down to games, press X
>scroll down again to demos, press X
>click on the very first icon, which is NiOh
If that took you 15 minutes to figure out, you quite probably do have some form of mental difficulties
>>335935642
PSN is more than the subscription fee for online play, it's Sony's entire digital store. It's Sony's eShop.
Still, this is saying that Sony's eShop is not only making more money than Nintendo's eShop, it is making more money than the entirety of Nintendo.
Nintendo had a really bad year for 2015 though, which is why their stock is dropping
>>335935642
>PSN earned more money in one year than all of Nintendo combined
Isn't this shit already happened like...2 times in the past?
Get out newfag
>>335937856
Nigger, I originally said "EVERYONE ITT"
You're the one who went "actually, I'M saying"
You replied to me first. Fucking kys senpai.
>>335935642
>The original XBox has a better online capabilities than the Wii U
Let that sink in
>>335937950
>games tied to console, not account
The games are tied to the account, actually. The problem is that you can't have the same account in more than one Wii U and one 3DS at the same time.
>>335937598
Nintendo Network never goes down because the service is hardly utilized. Meanwhile PSN is accessed by 20+ million people per day.
>>335935642
Who cares about which company makes more money? You're getting none of it
>>335938112
Here's the thing. If you have to explain it, it's bad UI.
>>335938205
But nobody was saying ps+ is psn.
>>335935854
>>335936479
>>335936675
>>335936762
>>335936753
Those were all the posts before yours that said anything related to ps+ or the services it offers. Can you tell me where they said ps+ is the only source, or that ps+ = psn?
>>335938415
>But nobody was saying ps+ is psn.
OP heavily implied that PS+ services made more money than all of Nintendo.
>>335936945
I pay my internet to provide my household with internet services, I pay Xbox Live to provide my household with specific Xbox Gold features, including the capacity to play some of my games in their online modes, as well as receive 4 games a month of their choice to try out.
Despite not always wanting, or enjoying the games they provide, I do get a bigger library, more insight to different games, and the price of the games is usually more than the monthly subscription I pay for them.
>>335937167
Oh thank fuck I forgot about that. I know people order pay per view UFC fights through PSN.
So that makes sense. Sony isn't actually selling just games, they have their movie rental service also rolled into "PSN" purchases.
Weeewww
It seemed off the they would make that much money when there's no games to play.
>>335938575
My bad. I didn't realize that "everyone ITT" referred to a single person.
>>335936008
Not if Nintendo does it.
>>335937653
>PS5
It's probably not going to play PS4 games at this rate.
Iterative upgrades are for smart people that didn't pay for a game-less box.
>>335938381
But I don't have to explain it. It's incredibly simple.
I'm only explaining it to you because you seem mentally challenged.
It speaks more about you, and your mental faculties, than the UI.
The UI couldn't be any simpler. It's click the PSN icon, click games, click demos.
It's three steps, which shouldn't even take your 2 minutes let alone 15. It's quite literally your fault for being stupid.
>also selling movies and music to people who own your console pays off
Makes sense. Helps that Sony is a megacorporation with its hands in tons of different entertainment and can pull off something like that. Something a purely video game and toy company can't do.
>>335937451
Just filter the tripcuck
>>335938415
Literally every single post you quoted implies this article refers to PS+
>>335936008
>Nintendo would be foolish
Well, I guess that confirms it will be free.
>>335938850
Literally every single post I quoted implied that PS+ has to do with it. Not one of them said that it was only PS+.
>>335938761
>2026
>filtering people because their opinions trigger your weak mind
Ahahahahah
>>335938596
>> I pay Xbox Live to provide my household with specific Xbox Gold features
Bait
>>335939025
Anon, you do know that Xbox Live is active for the entire console now, not just your account you have it on right?
>>335935642
>>
>How the fuck does a paid service to use your own internet to play online make more than all of Nintendo?
psn sales, not ps+ subs
>>335937950
>games tied to console, not account
Oh, so you're just shitposting, got it.
>>335938337
>Meanwhile PSN is accessed by 20+ million people per day.
70+ million people accessed it before it was a paid service and it was down LESS
>>335935642
PSN sales isn't just PS+. It's also game sales which also broke records. Stay mad.
PS+ = $50/year
Active PS+ members (as in Q1 2015) =~ 11m
11m * $50/year = $550m / year
Why don't all companies force users to pay for their online services? That's a lot of money. Valve, Blizzard, EA, etc.
You may say people wouldn't want to pay but they are paying Sony and Microsoft for it so clearly people are willing to pay.
>>335939338
>stating a fact is true
Well, gee wilikers.
>>335938971
Sure they did, which is why none of them mentioned anything other than paid online, right?
>>335939664
>Not one of them said that it was only PS+
>Sure they did
Okay, so where did they say that?
>>335939809
>start talking exclusively about paid online
>nuh-uh they totally meant dlc and games and ps now too!!!!
You're pathetic
>>335935642
And Starbucks is making more money than Dunkin Donuts, Walmart is making more money than K-mart and the sky is blue.
>>335940007
>talk about liking X console and specifically bring up Y game
That's all they play and the only game on that console, right? Talking about one point in particular doesn't mean you're excluding everything else. Seek help.
>>335938284
>let that sink in
I hate when people use this expression for facts that aren't mindblowing in the slightest. So yeah Nintendo is painfully lagging when it comes to networking, what else is new?
>>335938297
No, the games are tied to the console. If your SD card corrupts you can't just simply download it again, you have to call Nintendo for a new license and pray the guy behind the line is feeling generous that day.
>>335940249
>article is about PSN figures
>start talking exclusively about paid online
>act defensive when somebody explains PSN isn't just paid online
You're an actual retard, family
>random twitter troll
>>335940497
>If your SD card corrupts you can't just simply download it again
wat
How do you replace SD cards then?
>>335940559
>article is about PSN figures
>people bring up the monthly fee
>sperg out and assume they all mean ps+ is psn and the only source of income
>refuse to demonstrate critical thinking when someone points out your flawed logic
Keep going my man.
>>335940662
If your SD card is healthy you can just copy the 3ds folder to your PC and paste it on the new card. If it corrupts and you didn't backup, you're fucked.
The PSN includes digital downloads and DLC and shit you stupid cuck
>>335940497
>. If your SD card corrupts you can't just simply download it again
Yes you can, the only time when you cannot is if your console breaks. Then you have to make a call. You can download the game 20 times on 20 different SD cards if you want to, those SD cards just wont work on other 3DSes.
mfw this time next year Nintendo will make more money in a month with mobile earnings than Nintendo and Sony's console business in a year.
>>335940786
>If it corrupts and you didn't backup, you're fucked.
That's what it happened when I moved my account to a New 3DS and I just downloaded the games again. Lost my save files though.
>>335940853
No you can't. You can only download a game from the e-shop with the same code once. Once.
quit posting this guy's twitter
>>335940708
If you actually think the majority of this thread didn't confuse PSN and PS+, you're delusional.
Read some of the posts you quoted, or pretty much any post ITT.
Notice the clear focus on paid online and nothing else.
But no, please continue to believe that people were also of the assumption PSN counts towards Vue, PS Now, DLC, digital and games, etc. despite mentioning absolutely none of that.
I'm done talking to you, you're either purposefully acting dense or actually retarded.
Either way, you're not worth the time it takes to write another reply.
>>335940636
The data is publicly available.And he is right, the Network side of the playstation division made over 500B yens in revenue and Nintendo (the whole company) had a revenue of 500B yens as well. The entire revenue of the Playstation divison was of 1.5T yens
>>335940949
You have to go to your purchase history to download it again, dingus.
>>335935642
>PSN made more money than Nintendo
Yeah, because it's full of multi-platform shit that casuals and dudebros eat up, not to mention all those CoD season passes.
>inb4 Meme Run
>>335940949
Are you retarded or just trolling? You go to your downloads and use the redownload button.
>>335940949
Then it gets tied to your account and you can delete it and download it again whenever you want.
>>335941091
>>335941087
>>335941031
Not him, but the fact that this causes so much confusion shows how shitty the eShop is.
>>335941019
>if you actually think people believe something they never said or implied you're delusional
I'm telling you this as a kindness, seek help.
>>335939078
>Go to subway
>Pay sandwich artist to make me a sandwich
>Have to pay a second fee to the landlord of the building for the privilege of getting to eat there.
But it's okay because the fee covers premium features like chairs and heating which is nice to have even if it's warm out. And only one fee covers my entire family! What a steal.
>>335936034
Having a dying CEO probably didn't help matters either. In any case, sometimes businesses slow down, especially in high skilled creative works.
Theyll be fine, they should be sitting on piles of money.
>>335940905
You guys are mistaking things. What you did was a file transfer, which lets you redownload things again if you don't want to transfer the games from the old 3ds. It's just basically transferring the licenses to your new console.
Want proof that the games are tied to the console? Try deleting a game from the SD to get more space or factory reset your console.
>>335941215
The fact that this causes so much confusions shows how much shit you are pulling out of your ass.
>>335940294
The PS3 will still be getting new games after Nintendo has buried the Wii U's corpse. Let that sink in.
>>335941215
>Confusion
I don't know anyone retarded enough to try using a code twice instead of looking at their download history.
>>335941250
>He doesn't pay for a Subway+ membership
>>335941215
>shows how shitty the eShop is.
It shows how retarded people are. if you lost all your games because of data corruption would yopu search for each one individually on the eShop or check your download history?
>>335935642
How come nyggers only talk about sales but never about games?
>>335941362
It's pretty impossible to ignore that Nintendo has consistently been behind the curve when it comes to online features, which are growing increasingly important to consumers.
>>335941516
The same reason most people on the planet don't like to accept or acknowledge their flaws.
>>335935642
you answered your own question anon.
>>335935642
PSN =! PS+
Fucking retard. PSN is the entirely of what you can buy on the PS store. Basically it is all the revenue sony get from all the games/DLC/avatars/whatever sold on the PS store and obviously the money made from the digital sales of games.
>tfw you bought something on the PSN last year
>tfw you contributed to Sony winning
SONY
>>335941250
>The sandwich artist meme
The autists ace in the hole when he gets BTFO
>>335941349
>sonyggers are happy Sony is charging them for online
>>335936008
Well it would mean nintendo would have to make some online games first
>>335935854
Not if their primary target audience is still children. Their user base would simply drop even more.
>>335941026
>The entire revenue of the Playstation divison was of 1.5T yens
I thought the 3ds and amiibo made lodsa emone, how the fuck Playstation without many games on ps4 and owning the Vita made triple revenue than Nintendo?
What the fuck went wrong with Nitnendo?
>>335942083
>Bought Ps4, Bloodborne, GTAV and PS+ last holyday
>mfw this news
>>335944360
People buy Playstation consoles to play games newfag.
>>335939573
>half a billion a year for forcing people to pay for online
scummy as fuck
>All this Sony bias and dicksucking
>its okay to buy a subscription to play online when Sony and Microsoft does it
>it fucking nothing every month for ps+ where as gold get free games.
>No games the console, Win10SteamBox, TabletScreen
>new system that fucks over og ps4 owners
If Nintendo doesnt get their shit together, I'm done with "gaming" as a whole, Nintendo only has the fun spirit, instead of the shit MS and Sony has.
>>335944607
are you actually proud of buying that shit anon? lmao.
>>335935642
>Playstation hardware makes 1.4x all of Nintendo
>Playstation software makes 1.05x all of Nintendo
>Even the Other category - packaged software and peripherals (controllers?) - makes about 40% of what Nintendo makes
In total, the games department made 1.48 trillion to Nintendos 504 billion (all in yen).
Source: "good year" link in http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/271546/Sonys_games_business_bolstered_by_rising_PS4_sales.php
