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Explain to me how this is considered fair? >literally instance
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Explain to me how this is considered fair?
>literally instance counter with his stupid knife after you hit him
>2 enemies ganking up on you with almost no time for a break

inb4
>git gud
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>yet another fucking souls thread
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>>335921817
Just run around the area until the third one pops up and they start fighting each other instead of you.
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Just fucking dodge until the third one revives and attack the main one and you will win after like 2 cycles of it. they all attack each other.
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3rd guy will also attack the watchers so you can use him as a detraction

You can also parry these guys
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Abyss Watcher is one of the easiest bosses in the game.
Git gud is apt in this instance.
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The window to dodge their attacks is extremely generous
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>>335921886
this

someone get some twitter from some random e-celeb and make a thread
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one of the easiest fights in the game, but still very fun

tipps:

learn 2 backstab
just use a fucking 100% shield
when the second guy summons, attack him rather than the main guy
wait for your red-eyed bro to summon, he will trash em
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>>335921886
Yea how dare people talk about a game on /v/
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>>335922023
read this >>335922209
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Just fucking look faggot. The main one instantly countered me after his previous attack. How the fuck am I supposed to beat him?

>Dude the 3rd guy will attack the main one LMAO

Not in my fucking game.
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Wolnir had the sweetest into cutscene tho.
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>>335921817
You can stagger this guy repeatedly even with a regular longsword. He's like a regular enemy in the second phase just way more aggressive and a bigger pool of health.
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>>335921817
>R2
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>>335922537
I don't know man, he didn't look like get staggered in OP's webm.
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>>335922458
The red eyed one WILL attack the other two if you get enough distance to him.
And getting enough distance is easy as fuck.
Just learn to fucking play the game, anon.
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>>335922696
that was hyperarmour from his attack
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>>335922595
Fuck of you weeb 4chan is a place for intelligent discussion and debate not dumb memes and autistic weebs
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>>335921817

>Dying to NG Abyss Watchers

Just summon a phantom you fucking scrub, there's no hope for you.
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>>335922892
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>>335921817
You literally don't have to land a single attack in the first phase.
>This is difficult.
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>>335922696
Trust me, you can. Spam RB and he can't do shit.
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>>335921817
He staggers ALOT if you block his knife with a shield. It's basically free damage whenever he attacks with it.
That is, unless you bring a useless talisman when you have next to no window to cast miracles
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>>335921817

no other answer
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>>335921817

If you can't even beat the Abyss Watchers the rest of the bosses are going to be way to hard for you m8
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>>335922990
Grow up faggot and stop reading your kiddie books
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>>335921817

This game is bullshit from start to end. But I keep coming back.. I don't know why.. I fucking hate it
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>>335921817
Just wait around until the Abyss Watcher that attacks the others appears and attack the boss one when he is distracted. It looks like you are even targetting the wrong one here.
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>>335921817
Unfair for AW, really. They are probably the easiest encounter to cheese. R1 spam with a straight sword or better yet use the Sellsword's Twinblades or Gotthard's winswords to stunlock 100-0.
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>>335921817
holy shit, is that the smoothness of 60 FPS?
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i remember dying on purpose the first time i fought the abyss watchers because i could tell from the intro they were going to be the coolest boss and i didn't want the fight to be a pushover.
it's still a pushover.
they ended up being fucking backstabable NPC-tier enemies. who get staggered!! holy shit.
just get used to rolling forward OP. you shouldn't be having trouble with these guys.
you got a weapon at +4?
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>>335923135
>who is Wolnir?
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>>335923143
> berserk
> for kids

The manga about a guy who was born from his mothers hung corps adopted by the town whore that died of plauge later then killed his 1st man at 9 and was sold off as a sex slave in his childhood alone is for kids
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>>335923118
what's the point if you don't put the spoiler ?
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>>335923229
That's 30 FPS.
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>>335921817
>boss kills himself
>it's not fair
wut
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>>335923332
>The manga about a guy who was born from his mothers hung corps adopted by the town whore that died of plauge later then killed his 1st man at 9 and was sold off as a sex slave in his childhood alone is for kids
Yes, only kids eat this edgy as fuck shit up
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It's fair because you're a human being with the ability to learn, observe their attacks, and then use that knowledge to kill them. They're retarded """"""""""""AIs""""""""""""" that can only do the same thing at you over and over.

In other words, git gud
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>>335923143
>Letting a kid read Berserk
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>run around for 10 minutes while waiting the boss to slowly kill himself
>good game design

pick one
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>>335923370
why doesn't my game look as smooth?
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>>335923370
http://www.30vs60fps.com/ here anon
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>Spam r1 and stunlock the first guy untill the second one shows up
>Spam your infinite dodges untill the third one fucks them up
>Spam r1 again to stunlock the flame dude down

Shit is hard
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>>335921817
>Katanafag
>Upset he can't combo a boss.
Typical.
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>>335923510
Berserk came out in the 90s when everything was edgy the thing about berserk is its never needlessly dark it all work within its world and happens for a reason

Gut's back story is a huge part of what made his personality
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>>335923510
>edgy
Loving every laugh of this dead horse meme
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>>335923364

I don't know how to lol
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>>335921817
maybe don't every point in vit you fucking tard.
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>>335923702
I swear you can intuit so much about a player's personality by their character build. Whenever you see a katanafag in the fallen knight armour you JUST KNOW they're a colossal babby
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>>335922209
30 threads a minute necessary?
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>>335923286

Sounds like this guy would struggle with him
"I got killed by thin air! Artificial difficulty!"
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>>335921817

>That god tier theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
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>>335923914
ctrl-s

git gud at 4chan you shitter
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>>335923528
If he has a kid I fucking feel bad for the kid if he lets them read berserk
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Lol at how the only challenge from any enemy in this game is the fact that there's multiples of it.
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>>335924010
Wrong
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>>335924090
Right

faggot
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>>335923970
If people want to make a tread on a game that they are enjoying then they can
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>>335924136
cuck
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>>335924197
you know you like it
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>>335921817
Did you even play dark souls 1? Every boss in 3 is very fair
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>>335922020
Which one is best if I don't care about looking like a hipster?
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>>335923527
>AIs
ALS impacts peoples muscles ability to function it has nothing to do with retardation
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>>335922892
>>335923143
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>>335924421
The 1st souls game you play will be your favorite souls game 99% of the time
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>>335924136
He only posted a picture. You tick the spoiler box to spoiler it
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>>335923978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmccPPaRb3w

>not posting the full version
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>tfw darkmoon

life is suffering, leaving my ps4 for hours and NO summons
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>>335924562
Sounds like generic shitty modern game music
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>>335924550
I'm talking about the shoelace tying method.
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>>335923332
sounds like an african children's book.
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>>335921817
That boss is joke git gud ya fucking retard
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>>335921886
>>335922023
>>335923970
>HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT GAMES, I WANT MORE KEK, THICC AND GOOBER THREADS ON MUH V
Kill yourself.
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>>335924550
Kinda true, played Dark Souls 2 first and made me go out buy 1 and later on 3 and Bloodborne. I love them all but Bloodborne is the one I love the most.
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>>335921817
>dodge
>dodge more
>keep dodging
>hit during opening
>continue dodging

OP is a faggot
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do people just try once and then bitch?
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this boss is easy as fuck

you are shit
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>>335921817
>boss that gets stunlocked on each hit
>even have an abyss watcher come to your aid during the fight
>having difficulty

OP, I hope you know children have beaten this boss solo with little difficulty.
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>>335921817

It's weird when I see threads like this cause I don't consider myself great at souls games but I didn't die once to this boss.

When I saw others spawning I was like, oh shit this is gonna be hard, but then they started fighting each other, and I just killed him. I was using a battle axe and the counter always had too little range to hit me.
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>>335924626
>finger

Instant. Try it
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>>335924626
What level are you? I was level 101 and waiting at the anor londo bonfire and i got summoned once every 10 minutes
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>run around
>they kill themselves eventually

so fucking hard mate holding the analog stick down and to the left
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>>335925262
NG+?
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Over 9000 tries later

Fuck this one shot bullshit
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>>335923229
yes

>>335923370
no its not
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Are the abyss watchers evil?
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>>335925307
I wouldn't even waste my time. If after so many people have killed a boss with little difficulty, a person still thinks that its the fault of the game and not themselves, they are delusional.

I'm sure OP thinks he tried his hardest when meme spewing 12 year olds could kill him. The fight is clearly impossible.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FAGGOT SHIT?????

>enemies gank you
>LMAO 2 PHASES BITCH

How is this shit ok?
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>>335925389
>crying about getting oneshot
>no ember
>can use thunder resist items
>can use thunder resist spells
>thunder resist ring
>can dodge his easily telegraphed attacks

How did you get that far in the game if you can't dodge attacks that slow?
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>>335925571
>all that HP
>still dies

I'm don't understand.
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>>335923720
If Berserk is so amazing how come it's never getting finished and anyone who's into it is permacucked?
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>>335925527
it's an rpg with different playstyle.
every #MLG420nolockonrolling has fuckhuge problem with nameless king: the one considered hardest boss in the game but magic/pyro fag has a really ez time.
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>>335925664
Fairly easily

>Using embers
>Going easy mode

His attacks do very little thunder damage
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>>335923229
Webms seem to appear smoother than actual gameplay for some reason. I run the game at 60FPS and this webm seems really smooth even to me.
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>>335922020
holy shit, some of these are cool af
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>>335921817
You forgot the third that can hit both of them and help you out, along with the two to three NPCs you can summon since you're whining like such a little bitch.
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>>335921817
>having trouble with the fucking Abyss Watchers

Boy, you're gonna have a real bad day when you reach the Nameless King.
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>>335925840
>complains about a boss being hard
>yet refuses to use an ember
Isn't the boss being hard what you wanted by doing this?
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>>335922781
Actually, is it every explained why red eyed enemies attack whoever they want?
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>>335925835
Hey at-least they got off the damn boat
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>>335925571
keep a good distance and dodge away from the normal attacks. when he makes a fast leap forward, dodge it and hit him--->repeat. it's easy when you learn to stay away fro the guy and dodge all the regular attacks.
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>>335925389
>one shot

what. I'm SL 1 and he doesn't even one-shot me if I stack armor and rings properly. What were you doing wrong?
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>enemy switches to parry stance when my attack hits

How is THAT fair?
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>>335926114
dude the abyss lmao
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>>335925985
no npc summons in offline mode
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>>335924626
Just go finger, you fag.
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>>335926196
>darksword shitter
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>>335925904
It's because you aren't under the influence of adrenaline.
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>>335925904
maybe you shouldnt have used a toaster.
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>>335926221
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>335926221

Then get in online mode, unless your a pirate you shouldn't ever be playing in offline.
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>>335925389
This was easly the hardest boss on my first run. I spent over a hour fighting this faggot, after that I never died to him again
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>>335921817
They literally kill themselves
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>>335926196
>those fucking pot throwers
Where the fuck do they keep them?
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>>335921886
>yet another whiny bitch
I bet DaSIII threads aren't even in the double digits
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>>335921817
Did you try drinking some estus flasks?
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>>335926196
>meme sword
>still gets rekt

Holy fuck git gud
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>>335921817
>fair
why should it be
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>>335926273
Best 1h in the game senpai
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>>335926196
He got gud.
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>rationalizing failure by referring to any situation where you are outnumbered as a 'gank'
>even in PvE
This practice should stop.
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>>335925262
Same here. I don't get why people have trouble with this covenant
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>>335926221
i went offline several time and can still summon npc. but not all summon is for free.
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>>335925571
Better get used to the 2 phase bosses because the end game has tons of them.
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>>335922020
>tfw can't figure out which one I use because I just do it out of muscle memory
I think it's the Display.
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>>335926196
This webm is great because it really has so many conflictions:

>cleric outfit
>but using Dark Sword
>that isn't Blessed
>gets fucked by Skeletons (as a cleric)

tip top
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>>335925239
>>335926228

I don't want to be a filthy heretic, I want to roleplay, I want to be superman coming in saving the weak host
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>>335925571
Pretty much every boss in the end has 2 phases so you better get your boipussy ready for some hard pounding.
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First half isn't even the hard part.
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>>335926196
>tfw rocking the cleric robe purely for them bitchin cloth physics
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>>335921817
you could have rolled, but you went to press R1 again, there was plenty of time
the only time it would've been inappropriate to attack is with a heavy weapon
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>>335922458
>>>
>Anonymous 04/29/16(Fri)10:59:05 No.335921987 â–¶
> 3rd guy will also attack the watchers so you can use him as a detraction

The red-eyed one will also *turn on you* if you happen to hit him. So don't do that.
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get gud
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>>335926674
>dont want to be heretic
you are to Goddess Rosaria and the Deep Church.
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>>335924550
But my first souls game was DeS and I honestly think it's the worst one.
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>>335921817
>Attacking anything that isn't the boss
This isn't a git gud post
This is a you're a fucking braindead moron post
Just stop playing games
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>>335926938
demons souls is not the worst, the worst is dark souls 2 and even that game wasnt an inherently terrible game
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>>335927068
Nah, DeS is the worst. It's clunky and unfinished. It's got some good level design but is otherwise inferior to every other game in every way.
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Why is the Dark Sword a meme now?

I really liked using it in DaS1.
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>>335927260
granted you cant roll in more than 4 different directions, but the attacks and the movement are the same as all the other games

and if anything, the running felt smoother and more fluid than it did in dark souls 1
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>>335927419
Straight swords are really good now and Dark Sword is the best of the straight swords.
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>>335927419
If you die to a weapon in PvP, the rules say you have to come to /v/ and call it a meme until it catches on.
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>>335921817
you just have to roll around and play really gay with a long poking weapon, never really approaching or committing to anything, until you win.
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>>335927419
straight swords are broken and dark sword is the size of a refrigerator when you're swinging it
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>>335927425
>the attacks and the movement are the same as all the other games

nah, it's missing a shitton of shit. no jumping, no jumping attacks, no drop attacks, no roll/dodge attacks, etc. plus it's clunkier, plus it's glitchier
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>>335927547
Fuck, wrong one.
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>>335927749
oh yeah i forgot about that, oops

i see what you mean now
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>>335921817
Its trial and error bullshit. Its also really random.

I still like the boss for its presentation and the level of challenge was acceptable aswell. Took a lot of retries but I still enjoyed it.

Isn't it embarassing to be so buttblasted about a boss though, that you have to make a thread about it? Just keep retrying while listening to a podcast or something, learning this boss is more of a subcoscious process anyways.

Who am I kidding you're probably just meme-ing
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>>335926465
Lots of people complain about ganking in PvP but really the only situation in Souls that's actually ganking is if a host with summons is waiting around for the express purpose of jumping invaders. If someone invades and the host has phantoms but they were just trying to finish the level there's some misconception that it's reprehensible in the same way as actual ganking. Of course you're still a scrubbydubbins if you need phantoms to carry you, but that's beside the point.
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Dark Souls 3 is a bit funny in that the bosses get easier as the you progress, but the regular enemies get harder.

I only died to once one boss after the Abyss Watchers and that's because Dragonslayer Armour shield bashed me off the bridge during an ill-timed roll.

Meanwhile Lothric Knights were fucking recking my shit.
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why do enemies have seemingly unlimited stamina
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>>335927892
Whenever a team of phantoms and a host decide to run to you and kill you when the boss fog is literally 3 steps away from them, that is ganking.
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>>335927419
It's the literal Drake Sword, if the Drake sword stayed good through the game.

Like any straight sword, it's way too safe and does way too much damage for what it costs to swing. With poise fucked, it can interrupt GS.
Like the drake sword, shitters also flock to it because it hands PvE to you. Everywhere else it has a completely garbo moveset and can be parried every time.
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>>335927937
>Dude I'm so good I don't even use armor
>11 flasks +9
kek
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>>335928050
its called ng+ u dumbass
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>>335927959
Are you retarded? You are ganking them if you invade them while they are progressing. Killing you is just the icing on the cake for them. If they are just sitting at a bonfire with 3 other phantoms waiting for people, that's a ganksquad.
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>>335928050
Armor is literally useless and a flat percentage for having it on vs not. Havels and magical girl headbands do the same shit. VIT is a meme stat.
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>>335927937
Because FROM thought the aggressive playstyle of Bloodborne was a really good idea but they forgot that DaS games don't let you recover health by attacking so DaS3 ended up with a fuckton of hyperaggressive enemies that demand an extremely passive style of counterplay.
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>>335927937
why would crabs have stamina

they're crabs
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>>335928136
They are risking their lives by going to me to try and fight me instead of just challenging the boss and kicking me out, which is the safest way to deal with an invader. Are YOU retarded?
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>>335921817
You realize they fight each other right? Stop being a faggot.
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>>335924626
Why does From hate the Darkmoons so much
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>>335921995
>git gud
more like git halfway decent
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>>335921817
>how this is considered fair?
A third guy wakes up and will aggro one of them, letting you fight the other 1v1. It's fair as fuck and actually an easy boss.
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>>335922023
>>335922209
>>335924927
>the same argument every single time

no doubt you people bitch about games you don't play littering the front page.
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>>335921817
>tfw DaS3 kiddies actually think DaS3 bosses are difficult
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>>335926196

OUTSKILLED
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>>335921817
Abyss Watchers are easy as fuck though
One of my favorite bossfights easily
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>>335928183
>DaS3 ended up with a fuckton of hyperaggressive enemies that demand an extremely passive style of counterplay.

Or you could just get better at videogames.
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>>335926637
>I just do it out of muscle memory
I don't think you understand what is happening in that pic
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>>335924927
You came to /v/ to talk about video games? Good luck!
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>>335921886
Yeah, better make "a complete nobody on twitter said" thread to compensate for the disgusting threads about actual games.
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>complaining about a dark souls game being talked about
>on the largest dark souls community in the world
ISHYGDDT
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>>335928480
never point out flaws in FROM games, cos retards like this will always reply the same way

love how u retarded memers invented a way to deflect any and all criticism
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>>335928460
>landing pyro AoE right as they split
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>>335928480
A ton of the large weapons are so shit because poise is useless. This game is a pokefest in pve and pvp
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>>335928247
It doesn't matter what's safe and what isn't, it's not a gank just because they decided to turn around and kill you, you donut. If they'd been sitting at the entrance of the zone just waiting for people then I would agree with you but you're the invader following them around, you're the one ganking them. They just decided it'd be funny to kill you before challenging the boss.
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>>335927978
They put items in games, why do people use them! Kill your self.
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>>335928585
git gud
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>>335921817
uh the third watcher that appears normally attacks the other two and distracts them for a bit.
literally just dodge around till the third one shows up if you suck that bad you fucking faggot
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>>335928585
What exactly do you expect when you start complaining about the enemies being too fast and difficult?
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I beat them with Astora's Greatsword with no shield.
I won't get caught having a screenshot with the Dark Sword or Estoc.

Easy because the third one agros against both you and them. Just dodge but not into the fire. If you're dodging right you end up behind them for a free backstab. Its like they're waiting for it.
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>>335921817
This is my first Souls game and I beat him on my first try. Quite a few bosses in this game are difficult, but you are kidding yourself if you think Abyss Watchers are.

Don't git gud, just fucking uninstall.
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>>335924626
7 summons in one hour... one of them even got me 3 tokens.
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>>335927419
it's top tier for pvp and also decent for pvp
people on /v/ are the same people who hated people using havelmom builds in dark souls 1 while being trash at the game and had to resort to call people out on their builds
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>>335921817
If you are a complete shitter then do this:
Just run circles around the arena. And I don't mean sprint, just run. Pretty much all over their attacks will miss if you do that and they will just kill each other eventually.
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>>335928673
But I beat the entire game with a large weapon
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>>335928354
But I don't you fucking retard.
If it triggers you so much I guess you can always use filters
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>>335928734
i'm not even the same person, im someone from the sidelines watching dummies talking about git gud when anyone mentions any of the abhorrent flaws in FROM games

i beat all the games, they're not perfect. just accept it
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>>335924626
Can you be summoned to anywhere as a Darkmoon or only the area you're in?
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>>335928183
BB had weapons to deal with fast enemies, even pure str ones. I can smash a dog with a Kirk. My FUGS whiffs twice before binking them out if the way. >>335928682
>they put crutches in game and shitters use them
Ftfy
By all means keep using it, you'll eat shit against literally any invader who's not playing with his feet
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>>335923228
>gotthard at this point
and no the twinblades don't stunlock the majority of the bosses. Just the straight sword stunlocks like crazy for no reason. It should just be removed.
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>>335921817
literally git gud
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>>335928905
So why did you decide to step in on this retarded complaint instead of the other valid ones?
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>>335922458
Wait why aren't they fighting each other
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Abyss watchers were so easy just separate them...
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>>335928879
>decent for PvP
Not when caestus the dark sword counter exists.
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>>335929069
because "git gud" isn't an excuse for questionable design choices
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>>335925389
>people had trouble with this guy
Jesus, it took me one try
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>>335928681
They are metagaming by deciding to try and kill me just for the fuck of it instead of going through the boss fog. I am always alone, and usually I'm hiding and waiting for them to go through the fog if they are that close to it, but they come and try and find me. They deliberately go out of their way to kill me because they want to kill me as a TEAM, for the souls. That is a ganksquad. This isn't about completing pve. They want to pvp with 3 buddies.
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>>335928390
Because this boss is difficult?
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>>335925389
you have pyro, i kill him in like 6-7 great chaos fire orbs, that fights a joke with pyro
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>>335929136
What's the questionable design choice here? That enemies are aggressive and that makes your butt hurt?
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>>335928390
At release magic scum could 2 shot them. DaS 2 was unbalanced as fuck. Dext was suffering at the time if you didn't go for the meme weapons like rapier and katana.
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>>335927419
scrubs are being owned by it so it's a meme weapon now
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>>335929221
the seemingly unlimited amount of stamina ????????

fuck, nigger learn to read. literally all it takes is going back and rereading the topic
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>>335922458
Holy fuck, use google if you're this idiotic.
>hits the guy whos helping
>turns on you
WAAAHH WHY MY GAME BROKE
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>>335928390
After playing DaS3 so much the DaS2 hud looks fucking ugly as shit my god how did I put up with this?
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>>335928354
>bitches about video game thread on /v/
>meanwhile there's tons of e-celeb cancer, gamergate sjw's vs feminist sjw cancer and undertale threads
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>>335926196
I got a Dark Axe I found in the Walls of Lothric.

Is that bad? I upgraded +4 and I'm at that Magma boss after the GIANT 3 CROSSBOWS.
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>>335929330
That's how it's always worked, man. Dodge their attacks, idiot.
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>>335929345
Are you blind? He didn't hit the red eyes guy at all.
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>>335929124
good luck getting close to a player with half a brain
you'll have even more troubles with gotthard counter damage builds
the only thing you can do againts it is try to rollcatch or trade
but good luck outdamaging trades with longsword/rapier users
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>>335929414
no it didnt you stupid retard

go back and replay dark souls 1, enemies dont constantly attack over and over, they attack and rest for a period

i must be getting baited, because youre fucking daft
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>>335927978
>parried all the time
Only if you r1 spam like an idiot. Any weapon can be parried if the player just spams r1.
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>>335929374
Hey, at least in DaS2, you don't have a colossal fucking health bar in comparison to your stamina.
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>>335921817
Roll roll attack
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>>335929496
But that's how it works in this game too.
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>>335929629
>>335927937

please use your brain next time
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>>335927915
What? I thought the Nameless King was hard as fuck, he beat my ass probably almost 20 times.
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>>335928183
> extremely passive style of counterplay.

I disagree. Playing passively in DS3 just gets you killed.
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>>335929460
>dark/straight sword user in PvP
>with half a brain
You can literally pick one.

musclefist catches the end of the second swing every time, as well as rolls.
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>>335921886
then make your own quality threads you cuck
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>>335921817
is this game as well optimized as dark souls 2? i need to know if my shit laptop can handle it
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>fist weapons are shit

Why? What purpose is there to have them not at least put out some damage
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>>335929568
>dark sword having a moveset that lends itself to anything but r1 spam
>it's other moves aren't easier to catch
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>>335929723
Not really, you just need a quick poking weapon and a lot of time on your hands to wait for guaranteed openings.
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>>335929703
That's his closing attack. If he wasn't lodged between trees, he wouldn't spam it. The solution to it isn't passive counterplay, it's getting in its fucking face.
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>>335929793
Nope.
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>>335929793
No. Fromsoft loves to individually model bricks and branches so it requires a mid to high end pc to play nicely.
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>>335929793
No it runs like shit.
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>>335929898
Or you dodge their attacks like a normal person.
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>>335921817
It's not "fair", Souls has never been fair or very well polished. However, it' not like this attack is a big deal. Just attack regardless and heal yourself afterwards.

Just did this fight on NG+ again. It's stupid and I got hit many times but it was still pretty easy.
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>>335929916
what about what i said doesn't still stand though? closing attack or not, he still never once stops trying to do it. enemies in dark souls 1 would attack and rest for a moment, like i already previously stated, they seemingly had a stamina limit, and would stop for a moment to rest when it ran out. they don't in this game.

pls
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>>335929748
see here's a the thing
if two really good players with the same level of skill fights againts eachother but one uses the darksword and one uses the caestus the one with the darksword is going to win by far, and that's why people are using it mostly, but alot of players also use it because they are bad but then again so are most people who play dark souls, doesn't change the fact that darksword is a top tier weapon, especially for turtling.
also, you can't catch people who are rolling away from you with your second swing.
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>>335922458
so fucking saved
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>>335930074
I feel like the womping willow is easily one of the worst bosses in the game
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>>335930074
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>>335930129
>he still never once stops trying to do it
Dodge through his attack, numbnuts
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>>335921817

I beat them on my second try and I'm not even good at the game.

>Keep your distance, so no boss hugging
>Always keep both enemies in sight
>Dodge roll if one lunges
>Running attack if the main one idles, immediately followed by a dodge roll
>When the third one spawns, run away from them until they aggro the third one
>Backstab the main guy

Stage two
>Stay at a distance again
>Dodge easily telegraphed lunges/dashes and go in for one(!) strike
>Repeat

I think you can even parry him, making it even easier.
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>>335930317
i get it, you're retarded and can't read, its nothing to be ashamed of.

dodging is completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed, but i guess thats too hard for you to understand
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>>335928390
I never had any problem with Darklurker at all. Did they nerf him in a patch or something, I thought he was too easy for such a secret boss.
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>>335923528
berserk is really meant for edgy kids
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>>335929868
Because at release of DaS2 fist weapons were OP as fuck. The Vanquisher's Seal ruled arenas for a long time, until they, I shit you not, made fists slower than daggers in order to balance it.

Then they introduced Bone Fist, which was also eventually nerfed.

Caestus should be S rank in at least STR or DEX, but it won't happen.
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>>335930235
>top tier weapon for turtling
>turtling
>if two good players use the piece of shit weapon, then it's ok for the weapon to be completely broken and made for scrubdubs
Not the guy you're talking to but you're cancer
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>>335929389
It's the new Drake Sword.
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>>335930564
I just want to use that Boss Soul fist weapon from the Demon King. Shit looks so cool but does absolutely nothing.
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>>335930129
But you can clearly see at the end of the webm where it stops spamming its closing attack and readies its ranged attack, giving a clear opportunity to close and punish.

And despite your feelings, players and NPCs are the only things in souls beholden to stamina limits. Lots of enemies have major downtime but that's all randomized and generally unrelated to previous attack patterns.
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>>335929147
While I'm not a fan of the whole prioritizing hosts with phantoms helping him thing, were you expecting an honorable duel when you invaded?
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The problem with Souls and especially Souls 3 is that attacks barely get telegraphed. And people mix up telegraphing with the lunge animation. Seeing your enemy prepares ana ttack isn't telegraphing, Telepgrahing is the attack animation itself being predictable which it often isn't. Especially Nameless King, he prepares attacks for ages but the attack animation itself is literally faster than lightning, you can't even presst he dudge button fast enough. A long preparation animation isn't helping you at all, it's just saying "he will attack soon... or somewhen."

You literally have to memorize attacks. It's trial and error. You shouldn't need more than five attempts at most, though. Then you know their shitty attacks inside out.

The bigger problem with the gameplay I have is that it's literally always the same throughout the game:

>lock on enemy
>dodge when he attacks
>attack him twice
>repeat

No combo potential, no air game/jumping/juggling and clunky.
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>>335930235
No, caestus catches the second swing of dark sword, not people who are attacking once and rolling. Although then you just trap out of the roll.
If you're poking and rolling, why the hell would you use dark sword and not estoc?

Also, I don't really fall into the line of thinking that if two equally skilled players face off the one with the crutch weapon wins every time. If you believe that's the case and you also believe that's not a legitimate problem with the weapon I can't help.
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>>335921817
You should play Ninja Gaiden to learn the true meaning of "unfair".
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>>335930640
Low SL it's actually pretty god tier. If you're about 35 - 50 and +2 it, you can fight some people that'll get rocked and socked if they get caught in the R1>L1 follow up.

The weapon also does wake-up attacks as fast as Caestus, so it's better to roll and attack than try to stand in place.

Plus the Weapon Art is pretty neat.
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>>335930816
No, not at all. I was expecting them to walk through the fog so I'd be kicked and find a new world. I really am not an honor dueler, I actually play really gay as an invader to be brutally honest, but I know when people are just "going through the level" and when they want to fight. And the people I'm making an example of definitely wanted to fight and kill me.
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