Blackroom has been fucking CANCELLED. Where were you when John Romero was made a bitch?
It was postponed so they can start it up again when they finish a demo.
>mfw
>>335912319
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nightworkgames/blackroom-a-new-fps-from-romero-and-carmack
Wow it's fucking true. Would've been shit anyway.
>>335912319
The kickstarter has been cancelled. Doesn't mean the game is cancelled.
Oh boy are we going to have shitposters spreading misinformation all day?
Well, good. Because the kickstarter was shit.
If he improves it and comes back then good.
>>335912447
That's every day anon.
That's every day.
>>335912319
>john romero was made a bitch
kek
>>335912319
>>335912370
NO IT WASN'T IT WAS CANCELED CAUSE I WANT IT TO BE HAHAHAHA SUCK IT ROMEROFAGS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA CANCELLED
>>335912319
It literally says in the first paragraph that they are suspending the kickstarter while they work on completing a gameplay demo, and once it's released, will re-launch the kickstarter.
>>335912319
How do you know they didn't get picked up by a publisher?
>>335912319
Can't you guys fucking read?
John Romero made me his pitch
and took it down
I'm happy a KS based ONLY on big names as reclaim failed.
>>335912756
It's just shame. If they had reached their money goal they hadn't kicked it. Sorry.
ROMERO BTFO
B
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>>335912319
it's being postponed so they can get a gameplay demo out
>>335912319
If you look at the behaviour for most kickstarters, anything that hits big will generally be funded within the first couple of days, then donations will trail off. I'm surprised they're going to re-kickstart later, i don't know of any successful kickstarter re-starting.
>another """oldschool""" FPS game failed on Kikestarter
Color me surprised.
>>335912997
it's being postponed because they didn't make enough money the first days.
>>335913078
Retroblazer actually genuinely looked good aside from the furfag shit, damn shame.
>>335913078
Seriously its a crazy oversaturated genre and his concepts weren't that radical, it all felt pretty dated which is regrettable.
95% of posters in this thread are fucking retarded
>>335914070
More like 95% of posters on /v/ are retarded.
>>335912319
>waiting to give a demo so people know what they're getting into, rather than riding on hype alone to get the funding
>is willing to risk people not liking the demo and not pledging so that they can know what the game will be like before giving their money
He's too good for us.
>>335915186
Bitch there was no way he'd make the 700k on time.
He realized everyone was dissapointed in his fucking YouTube video with concept art and pulled out to actually back up all the promises he asspulled.
>>335915810
Like all the other kickstarters /v/ claimed was doomed?
>>335912319
now for a moment, think about how this one gets cancelled, but every godamm stupid schaffer effort gets millions
>>335915882
120k on it's first week.
With literally nothing to show to raise more hype.
It was dead, Anon.
>>335912406
She has hands or not?
>>335912319
Hold up, I actually scrolled down and started reading.
They're putting it on hold so they can put out a demo because people asked.
That's actually pretty fucking based.
>>335912370
They really should crank out at least something. Tons of indie fags are churning out 'classic style' FPS games with their allowance, there's no reason they couldn't construct at least one concept level for the game. Romero really overestimated how much his reputation is worth
Guy it's Romero. You shouldn't be surprised if you remember how Daikatana's development went. The only person worse than him at getting stuff done and out on time is Derek Smart. At Romero's pace, it will take a few more failed kickstarters, several publishers, several complete remakes and several development teams before Blackroom makes it out 10 years from now as a totally generic and mediocre shooter.
No surprise here.
Romero was only good as an "ideas" guy who OCASSIONALLY comes up with a good idea that someone with skill and work ethic (John Carmack) can actually put into action.
Other then that Romero is useless.
>>335916280
Nice job Anon!
>>335916280
>b-b-but muh shitpost
Seriously, None of you ever read the fucking thing? it's exactly like the time /v/ thought bethesda removed steam reviews on the doom beta but it turns out they were seeing the actual doom page, which isnt released therefore no reviews shown
Fucking /v/, seriously
http://www.develop-online.net/news/romero-delays-blackroom-kickstarter-to-finish-off-gameplay-demo/0219823
>A demo is already in the works, but isn’t due to be finished before the Kickstarter campaign ends. While Romero acknowledged that the team could “work around the clock” to do so, entering such levels of crunch is “not what we do”.
>Romero predicts that will take one to two months before the demo is ready, at which point the studio will relaunch the Kickstarter campaign with the same goal and reward structure. The team hopes to offer backers who return and pledge again a little something extra – “just as a thanks for sticking with us”.
>“We want to show off the Boxel UI and how that works in a fast-paced game, because that’s something a lot of people have been asking. We want to show things that are new about the game, the speed of it, and what we’re trying to get across. It should only take us a few months to bring all of that together. It won’t be a full level, but it will be enough gameplay to show off the speed and all the other things we’re talking about.”
>>335916073
And 100k of those were on the first day. After that the pace was absolutely glacial, maybe 10k at most in a day
>>335916451
Shh. /v/ is allergic to logic
Is Adrian going to kill himself?
>Romero sweet talks him into another turboedgy game
>Pour all his hatred for John in a VR IS EVIL!!! plot
>Romero pulls out because aside from his drawings there's nothing to else to show
>Now they have to asspull a demo to get some money
Poor hobo Adrian.
>>335916451
Good choice but there was a good chance funding would not have been reached if they didn't cancel it. This let's them save face and get another chance
you guys are no different than those clickbait ads with ridiculous titles
>>335916409
He makes the best maps
>>335916409
Yeah, I mean his claim to fame was his Doom levels, but how relevant is that really in this age. I mean I'll give him that they're still much better than the stages in the new Doom game but how well can he actually work with the new tools. Last time he made fully 3d levels were for Quake twenty years ago
they already know its gonnna fail in funding without proof of concept or else they'll look like le gook conman of many delays
130k since monday is a slow start unless they pull a fast one like Indivisible or le conmans 2nd game
Nice Bait Thread, OP. you should work for fox
>>335916563
at least romero and andrian have enough self respect to actually stop, look at whats going on and make a demo just because we all askednicely, sort ofis fucking based.
i dont care if the demo or game is shit its just a nice thing to do and something you dont really see anymore.
>A game demo
>for free
>no strings attached oldschool shareware 90's style
>???
Plus it shits on the VR meme.
John Carmack is a chode for selling out occulus with the rest of them and leaving/becoming CTO
dangerous dave when
>>335916563
I don't think the game will be particularly grim, the levels he was talking about in the stream were stuff like pirate ships and medieval stages, or a children's TV show. Sound pretty goofy in the grand scheme of things. I can't say any of those sound terribly appealing in themselves though
>it's a "shitposters spread misinformation" episode
>tfw there are this many underageb& on /v/ now that hordes of retards thought this guy was actually going to produce a quality game.
>>335912447
>where_do_you_think_we_are.webm
>>335916786
This!
People are fucking dense when it comes to romero.
>>335916663
The real genius of Doom was the enemy designs, and to a lesser extent the weapon designs/balance and the simple yet satisfying fast and weighty movement. I'm not sure how big of a role he played in developing those though, but if he was the mind behind those things, then he's a genius.
>>335916786
I hate to ruin your excitement but I doubt it's a playable demo. Gameplay demo is also used to refer to gameplay videos.
>>335912319
I guess you could say the fanbase made Romero their bitch.
>>335913006
Slow burn kickstarters usually get 3 big pushes.
>at the beginning
>when the press picks it up
>at the end
If you have a playable demo you get added pushes from youtubers. If you get a LPer to play and endorse your demo you're probably gonna get at least 1% of his audience to back the kickstarter. If that youtuber gets a million views per video that's 10,000 backers. At $30 an average backing that's $300,000. Half the distance.
>>335916948
i think he mostly programmed the in-game stuff while carmack programmed the lower level stuff
>>335916786
John carmacks dream has been vr his whole life. He just moved from the world building aspect of it to the hardware. He saw the software bit as stagnating, and he has no sentimental attachment to nearly anything. Borderline sociopath.
>>335912319
>>335912319
DO YOU GUYS THINK MOE WILL GIVE HIM HIS OLD JOB AT THE GAS STATION BACK AFTER HE QUIT IT TO MAKE THIS GAME????
>>335916786
>John Carmack is a chode for selling out occulus with the rest of them and leaving/becoming CTO
id was already shit, and there wasn't that much he could really do in that environment anymore. That's why he started working on pointless stuff like megatextures, it was something new even though no one asked for or needed something like that. Carmack's true interest is replicating real life in a virtual environment anyway so the move to the HMD goggles totally made sense, and I think he's still one of the best guys for that job. Even if that whole VR gimmick itself turned out to be really lackluster at least it functions pretty good I guess
>>335917124
This kickstarter is actually to raise enough funds to buy that gas station.
>>335916948
>>335917085
Romero wrote a tool for making the levels, and some stuff for the levels themselves like raising staircases and stuff. Nothing major I think. Mainly just coming up with levels, the process of which was that he just played them over and over and though about what would look cool in certain spots. There are lots pf people who could do the same, and many have surpassed the original levels with their custom wads
Anyway, here's Romero talking about the making of Doom while they play the game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU7_BthBWM
>>335917186
I doubt Moe would sell his Gas Station to a hack like Romero.
Romero should kiss his ass that he gave him a opportunity to work for him and not end up homeless on the street.
>>335916893
Thanks anon
>>335916986
I guess he died by his own diekatanasorry
>>335916950
>Gameplay Videos
Nah they dont even have anything to show.
Of course it will be playable people asked for a playable demo
>>335917112
He seems like a real douche.
Genius but a goddamn massive dick
He broke up id because of his fucking ego and refusing to get along and 'bring himself down to other peoples level' made romero want to quit and everyone left with romero.
At least we got Dues Ex, UT99 and Quake 3 out of the whole fuckup
its something that shouldnt have happened but it did.
imagine if they all stayed at id...
They would have been Epic games or even bigger but Carmack lead the team that remained down the graphics meme and thats where they stayed.
>>335917141
its a neat idea but like most ideas until it gains traction it wont matter.
Maybe someone will come along and do it better, cheaper and easier than anyone else, it could be occulus, vive or any other startup
>>335912319
Why the fuck can't a fucking MILLIONAIRE make a decent FPS like the old days without jewing it out like every generic call of duty clone? do they literally hate video games or something? How can someone that created FUCKING DOOM be so incompetent?
>>335917327
>anyone could do the same with enough practice
Just like how people have been playing doom for over 20 years and still think it's good because of gore?
This logic is dumb in competative games and it's dumb in making games.
>>335912319
At least he still has his gas station job
>>335917141
>megatextures
I like them (they have a ton of potential artistically, but they were shit on at release so it might be a few years before we see them again )and they'll probably have future application in vr games, along with the adapting constant frame rate tech...
>>335917085
>>335917327
Having read The Masters of Doom, and watched that video/others involving Romero, it's not clear who designed those things I mentioned. I only remember Romero claiming to do those things you mentioned, and him working on certain mechanics (for example, him trying to get Carmack to code the horizontally moving walls for secrets in Wolfenstein 3D). Would be an interesting question to ask him.
>>335913078
>old-school
>upgradeable weapons
>upgradeable abilities
>tower defense
>rouge-like elements
I'm having a hard time remembering any old-school FPS game having these elements.
>>335916298
Romero has a reputation worth anything?
>>335917637
I think it's pretty relevant. Romero hasn't been working on these types of environments for a long long time, he's been churning out mobile games for ten years or so. If the selling point is that John Romero will be designing every level, he should be some kind of a god at it but he hasn't been doing it for two decades and many people are better than him at it, it's not some kind of innate power he has
>>335917686
nope read this
>>335917124
also someone post the photo, you guys know what I mean.
>>335916298
This is completely right. No proof of concept and all that old school pandering had me really skeptical. Hopefully he can make something cool.
>>335912319
>Blackroom
My uncle was working on this. Please dont be mean to it.
>>335917847
Yeah he's that guy who made a couple good video game levels 20 years ago because there wasn't anything better out at that point
>>335917831
wrath of cronos has upgradeable abilites and kinda roguelikeish elements, lvling up etc. and its sick, but its pretty much still just hexen, which is very good even without that mod
>>335917826
Him asking Carmack to handle the moving walls makes sense, that's actually part of the renderer.
It's still in the game, but it's really bad so it's unused.
Fuck you. Now, i'm triggered.
I fucking hate you guys so much. I feel nothing but pure hatred, disgust, and ill will for you ungrateful, bitter, jaded fucks.
I swear to fucking god, if this game doesn't get made, because people are spreading bullshit misinformation..
I hope you never, EVER, enjoy a video game ever again in your pitiful fucking life. I hope your favorite series' all get turned into shit, and die off. I hope every video game purchase you ever make again, is an irreversible mistake.
Fuck you
>>335918052
But that's a mod and not a game, I still don't see how that makes those game that anon listed old-school.
Who the fuck is John Romero Carmack and why the fuck should I care?
>>335912319
It wasn't canceled, you pathetic excuse of a human. Kill yourself loser.
>>335918142
But anonall my favorite series have already turned to shit or died. I have nothing to lose!
Fuck you guys.
You don't deserve good games. I hope the industry finally fucking crashes, and stagnates at the bottom for years on end.
And when it comes back, I hope it's even worse.
>hey guys check out this game we're making
>FUCK OFF WE'RE NOT FALLING FOR ANOTHER KICKSTARTER WITHOUT A DEMO
>oh, I guess you're right, we'll just postpone this kickstarter until we got a demo out
>AHAHAHAH THEY CANCELLED IT WHAT A BITCH
>>335918142
name 1 reason why we should trust some hack like Romero to make a new game?
>>335918142
You and me both famicom.
>>335918426
welcome to /v/
>>335918426
This.
This place is full of nothing but children
>>335912406
(I CANT WAKE UP!)
>>335918158
its hexen, with lvling up. it feels oldschool, i think it proves that oldschool fps with some kind of progression IS possible.
>>335918426
/v/ always tries to look like they're in the right, but really they're just a bunch of retarded kids
Another factor is that Romero isn't a 20-something anymore, he can't stay up all night drinking coke and working on his levels, he's a tired old man who wants to go home to sleep at the end of the evening. He also doesn't have the same drive anymore, he is already an established name and doesn't need to worry about money. All his friends he worked with have moved on, Adrian Carmack looked like he was forced to be there during the stream. The old days have long passed for them.
You see it all the time with musicians and such, old legends come together like yeah man we'll totally write another album that rivals the one we wrote when we were 19 and angry. Then it's just mediocre because they're at peace with the world, themselves, they have no need to prove themselves and they've used up all their ideas 30 years ago
>>335918469
It's been 16 years since daikatana and you don't give him a chance
yet you guys were fucking excited for the abomination known as fallout 4 when it was announced
>>335918142
Y-y-ou t-too!
>all this rage
And people say stockholm syndrom isn't real.
>>335918616
I'm not saying that it's impossible, I just don't see anything old-school about the games that anon posted.
>>335918142
Calm down Romero.
>>335913078
Shit I played the RetroBlazer demo. It was good. Pretty sure the developer was gonna finish the game whether it was kickstarted or not. So why give him the prepurchase money? Gonna checkout what happened to this game.
I'm back. Looks like the dev who says he has been working on this game for a decade got greenlit on Steam but never went forward with the process of actually trying to sell it. Zero updates for over a year anywhere on the internet. Fucking weird. Guess he's still butthurt about the failed kickstarter. But who cares? There's enough people on Steam willing to pay for it.
>>335918676
>being angry over misinformation means we are retarded
Hello, Shill
>>335918693
i don't either anon
>>335918426
This is /v/. Once upon a time, /v/ was a place to discuss vidya. Yes, it was shit, yes it was full of trolls, shitposting and negativity. But the problem is, this got out to the rest of the internet. So people came and joined in, to be part of the shitflinging side. Thus it's a self perpetuating prophecy.
>/v/ hates everything
>so let's go in there and hate everything too
>/v/ hates everything
>so let's go in there and join in!
Etc.
>>335918773
>But who cares? There's enough people on Steam willing to pay for it
True, he could have put it into early access and people would throw money at him
>>335918639
and in this 16 years did he show that he did improve so a second daikatana doesnt happen, no he didnt he made facebook games and mobile phones that where also shit, if that guy cant even make good phone game I dont trust him to make now a fps
>>335918639
>16 years
Fucking hell, I didn't know it was made that long ago.
And people are talking shit based off of that?! That's some bullshit.
>>335919023
He hasn't exactly done anything to redeem himself. He moved on to something completely different, and now he's returning to what he used to do two decades ago with no practice
>>335918965
FPS is is specialty. of course he sucks at mobile and facebook games, its not his strong point.
it's like expecting an engineer to do heart surgery
>>335919023
Romero was never that good, after id Software he never made a good game in this 16 years.
You guys are acting like he has some secret power in making games that onlly Romero has and no 1 else can even come close.
He showed his superior knowledge in facebook games and mobile phone games that where all shitty
>>335918965
>>335919134
don't you guys know about his new maps?
>>335919023
Well yeah, he hasn't really done anything since then that would alter people's perception. I don't even know why people threw as much money at the kickstarter as they did.
>>335919147
How many good fps games after leaving id Software?
Literally 0 , he fucking destroyed Eidos for 35 million $ that faggot.
>>335913078
The original wrack wasn't even finished and they wanted to make a fucking squeakquel?
The fact that this image alone was made, annoys me for some reason.
He was probably expecting getting all the funds in a matter of hours.
>tfw romera non ironically tried to pull a schaffer
>>335918827
I blame a lot of it in that whole TORtanic shitfest. Ever since then /v/ got flooded with shitposters wanting every new game to be a flop.
>>335918632
I sincerely hope I never find peace with the world.
>>335919224
he is making maps fora game older then 20 years , who the fuck cares about it?
Its not the same fucking thing to make a map for a 20 year old game and make a multi million dollar game in 2016.
he doesn't have the skill anymore to do it, he spend literally 4 years at id and because of this 4 years he is now some God?
>>335919147
those mobile/facebook games actually did pretty well. not angry birds/candy crush/farmville level successes but successful enough to keep the lights on.
>>335919224
Yes, and they were alright. But there are lots of good wads out there. From a technical standpoint making levels for Doom is also very different from full 3D
>>335919224
Great, he can make doom maps. That doesn't really say anything to me about his ability to develop video games, especially new IPs.
TFW Romero literally had only 4 good years that he was making games
TFW people who made Gone Home worked longer in the videogame industry then him.
>>335916409
This guy knows whats up.
Expect release in 2025-2026
AAAAAHHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
This youtuber Romero is dead lolHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>335919497
but but he also works at a Gas Station, isn't that awesome?
>>335917847
yeah last time I checked he made 1 of the worst games every Daikatana and costed Eidos 35 million $
35 million $
>>335920009
learn how to fucking write
>>335918142
>I hope you never, EVER, enjoy a video game ever again
/v/ - video games
>hack sociopath tried to fish for 3/4 million dollars
>no one remembers him
>he didn't do shit anyways
>john carmack did all the heavy lifting
>romero was just a narcissistic manipulative sociopath
eat shit and die john
fucking hack
>Haha they started a kickstarter with no demo they're going to fail
>Haha they're postponing the kickstarter until they have a demo they're going to fail
If I ever needed more proof that /v/ hates everything vidya related.
>>335920141
>john carmack did all the heavy lifting
michael abrash
>>335912447
This is 4chan, you must shitpost and be contrarian all the time. If not, you are a normalfag.
Follow thy Commandments of /v/.
1. Thou shall shitpost.
2.Thou shall be contrarian
3.Thou shall call non-contrarian fags shills
4.Thou shall praise non-modern games
5.Thou shall hate modern games
6. Thou shall leak games
7. Thou shall post video game quotes and memes as threads
8. Thou shall call OP a shill if game is not hated in thread
9. Thou shall type dank memes
10. Thou shall start flame wars between the Three Consoles and PC.
Follow these commandments and thou soul shall be sa/v/ed from the damnation of normalfags.
I thought this game sounded good.
Doom is one of the greatest games of all time.
Romero seems to understand what made Doom good. He seems to have devised a game that allows him to explore and remix those core elements of Doom that he liked.
All the negativity is outrageous. He hasn't made FPS in xx years. So what? He's not planning to make anything like the typical FPS of today. He's going to make a small game which humbly reinvents Doom with a modern engine. He's not doing this to get rich, it's something he wants to do. He is going to create every level. That just tells me there is that old element craftsmanship which games used to have and sometimes still do, which he wants to bring. It's not a money making exercise. It's not being done cynically. He wants to engage the fans. He actually wants to redeem himself for daikatana.
Haters, go fuck yourselves.
>>335920224
I mean those two statements aren't necessarily inaccurate.
>>335913078
RetroBlazer would've been shit since it was trying to be Wolfenstein, which has awful level design; ie random, nonsensical maze-like levels.
Also furshit.
>>335920083
give us back our 35 million $ you hack
From Eidos
Twenty years after the battle between Quake and Unreal Tournament, the people behind Quake are using Unreal Engine 4 to make their new game
>i don't play video games
>i don't care about video games
>i don't want to find the time to play video games
>but i'm going to keep coming to the video game board to shitpost and stir drama that isn't real
>this is somehow more satisfying than playing video games
People like you need to be banned on sight.
I cant believe you basement dwelling losers compare an accomplished game designer like Derek Smart to John Romero. At least Derek Smart has a dedicated community of fans for his critically acclaimed Battlecruiser 3000AD game series. John Romero has done nothing except for that failure Daikatana. Derek Smart is the original Indie developer who trail blazed the idea that you don't need a billion dollar studio to create a great game.
>>335916590
I actually have respect to them as even without the demo they STILL would have finished successfully; saying goodbye to assured finance and risking it all on a demo actually delivering on said promises first is a hard step to take.
>>335920459
>people behind quake
Its just Romero the fucking hack and you could see on the stream carmack literally doesnt give a fuck about the game.
>>335920141
You're getting your terms mixed up. Carmack is the sociopath. I think the word you might be looking for is narcissist
>>335912370
looking forward to it
>>335920528
Romero is working at a Gas Station now.
>>335920310
Hater is not legitimate criticism of someone. It's literally just saying ha ha you don't like this thing, so your viewpoint doesn't matter. It's the most self assured millenial term I could think of, all criticism deflected just by saying they are haters
>>335920668
>he fell for this meme
>>335920558
Wasn't Adrian involved in Quake too? But you're right, he couldn't have seen more uninterested in the whole thing
>I just want to paint my paintings but now I have to work on a video game with this old hack
>I don't even like video games anymore
>>335920548
>they STILL would have finished successfully
No way. First day they got 100 000. The following days they receiced 30k, it was at a total standstill. Unless notch or someone would have appeared on a white steed to dump 400k on the project there would have been no way it would have made it
>>335920930
what meme , not my problem you are delusional and believing that he has any money left from his 4 years of fame working at id Software.
>>335918142
Oregairufags
>>335920310
dude the guy is literally working at a Gas Station he would sell his ass for a piece of bread and ham.
>>335912416
It was cancelled because they wanted to work on a demo for the game.
>>335918632
>yeah man we'll totally write another album that rivals the one we wrote when we were 19 and angry
Examples pls.
>>335912975
Nah. Kickstsrt has a policy that you need a prototype for any product you try to fund.
They don't have one, so they got fingered
Can someone shoop the "Just fuck my shit up" face on the photo of Romero where he is working at the Gas Station and writte down "Some people are Doomed"
>>335912370
Bull shiiiit
>>335913078
>both games try to appeal to old fps fags
>using kiddy characters and colors
Gee I wonder why both failed
>>335919401
Yup. Exactly.
>>335912885
People will choose bullshit/fantasy over truth if it sounds more interesting and better serves their needs.Those needs being shitposting.
>>335921602
>kiddy characters and colors
Come again?
>>335920884
No you fucking retard
A hater is someone who hates because that's what they do. No rhyme or reason behind it, they do it because that's what they do. In other words a fucking idiot whose brain has cystalised into negativaty due to years of feeling sore at the world. The ability to appreciate good things in life has attrophed. They get off on harassing people and inciting a response of revulsion, because that is the only affect they are now capable of. All this distracts them from the miserable reality their life has become.
Romero is not like you. He could easily not do this game. He has money. Believe it or not, there is some sense of goodwill driving him. You find it hard to comprehend, but cares about something. Yes, cares.
You know what they say: live by the sword, diekatana.
So how many more times do you guys think we'll see this shitposting thread today?
I'm taking bets.
>>335921440
Metallica
Some of the Sepultura guys
Probably any punk band that is unfortunate enough to still exist after 20 years
>>335921763
Sounds like you're just a hater, friend.
>>335921602
Did you even see some of the mobile phone games Romero made or the story of Daikatana ?
He has no fucking idea how to make 3d games , literally no idea.
its fucking sad that people will only remember him that 1 guy with old hair who worked on doom 20 years ago.
His only glorious time was the 4 years at id software,just 4 fucking years there are students who have more exp in making games then him.
>>335921809
its just hilarious watching people praising some guy who literally has no fucking idea how to make games in 3D and didn't do shit for 16 years, its like watching some old sport legend trying to get the gold medal after not training for 16 years and people are cheering for him but they all know he will fail.
>>335921763
>He has money
>Believe it or not
Yeah he has so much money that he is working for fun at a fucking Gas Station.
top kek.
>>335921763
People are giving plenty of reasoning for their "hating". I'm not hating on anything, I'm just super skeptical of Romero's ability to make anything decent anymore. You're just hating on the people who are sharing their opinions hurr
>Romero is not like you. He could easily not do this game. He has money. Believe it or not, there is some sense of goodwill driving him. You find it hard to comprehend, but cares about something. Yes, cares.
None of this means that he can actually make the thing he wants to make. I have plenty of neat ideas but no ability to actualize them. I'm sure Ridley Scott still wants to direct good movies but all he comes out with is shit
It's NOT FUCKING FAIR!
This was our big chance to prove to casuals, normies, and SJWs, that good FPS games can still exist.
It was our big chance to show CoD kids, and Halofags a true game, a game that will make them John Romero's bitch and suck it down!
I'm literally shaking and crying, bros.
What do we do?
>>335922072
>has no fucking idea how to make games in 3D
He did make the Quake levels. But that was a long time ago
>>335922238
You start by reading literally anything on the matter before posting, retard.
>>335921809
How is it shitposting?
They cancelled funding because IT BOMBED They WERE NOT going to succeed in their kickstarter. It is the textbook definition of failure They realized that people were not happy about being sold a product based on some literally who's name and the worst Carmack. This isn't shitposting, this is fact. They should have their noses rubbed in it. Want to know how to make a successful crowdfunding project? Look no further than LabZero.
>>335922473
Shamelessly pander to every kickstarter fanbase desperately begging for money?
>130k of 700k goal in 4 days
>not enough
Why the fuck? They seriously expected to get 5 million and not just 700k by the end didn't they?
>>335922473
>How is it shitposting?
Removing key details to paint your own narrative is shitposting.
They pulled the plug so they could get a demo and relaunch it.
>>335922631
did you even read the fucking article? They wanted to make an actual gameplay demo to show off the game before resuming the kickstarter.
>>335922631
They got less and less every day
100 thousand at day one
15 thousand day two
10 thousand day three
5k today
This is a good way to save face, and at the same time come out with what people actually wanted, some kind of concrete demonstration of their concept and ability to produce anything
>>335922720
They should have had the demo ready from the start but of course they didn't because it's just a scam. The business savvy consumer just made Romero his bitch.
>>335912737
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>335922767
only because they werent making any money
>>335922631
Fuck off whit that shit.
If they had gotten 20k a day, they would have gotten their number. It was possible.
If that demo is good, it is almost a sure thing that it will be made.
>>335922842
>they didn't because it's just a scam.
is that why the kickstarter is still active
wait
>>335922870
Pretty much. They wanted a handout for doing nothing.
By their own words "We need 700,000 to prove there is a market for this game and secure additional funding". The people have spoken. I'll see you all here in 3 months when the KS implodes again and Romero goes back to working at Texaco.
>>335916451
I look forward to the relaunch and seeing the demo when it's ready a year from now
>>335923073
say what you want but this guy was born to fill up cars and clean the windows, last time I went Romero literally cleaned a car in less then a minute while talking like a crazy people about some old shitty game he made.
>>335922936
>If they had gotten 20k a day, they would have gotten their number. It was possible.
Yet for some reason that wasn't enough for them.
>>335922767
And the reason they suddenly want to make a demo is because they realized they won't just get millions of dollars handed to them for a promise without showing something just because they used to be big names 25 years ago.
>>335912406
I'm not fat! I'm body-positive, you shitlords!
>>335918142
>implying anybody on /v/ actually still likes video games
>>335923493
they didn't ask for MILLIONS they asked for 700k
which is a lot but not MILLIONS
If he can make what is basically a mashup of Quake and Timesplitters with some gimmick I don't care too much for, it'll be pretty fucking awesome. His newer Doom maps show that he's still got a decent amount of skills left in him.
>>335923959
>His newer Doom maps show that he's still got a decent amount of skills left in him
For Doom. Can he produce complex levels at a decent pace in UE4? Who are all the other people who will work on it? It takes a lot of work to make those high fidelity visuals
>>335923919
they obviously expected to get atleast 5 times what they asked
>>335912756
>we didn't get 1 million $ outright so we are going to try and scam you at a later date
Romero is scum, I don't know why people praise him so much. It's like everyone forgot all the shit he's done.
>>335924259
Working 16 years at a Gas Station will compensate the lack of doing no game in the last 16 years.
That'll be $19.99 plus tip. Thank you sir, please consider making a donation to my Kickstarter project.
>>335923919
But they wanted MILLIONS that is why they cancelled at 170k/day4 even though they would have likely just about made the 700k by the end.
>>335924259
I don't really care all that much for the visuals. As long as the game is fun to play and the map's clipping still allows for smooth gameplay, it can be as detailed or as undetailed as they like.
I mean, I didn't spend much time staring at high fidelity stone walls in SS:BFE, I was too busy killing things.
>>335924359
Why the fuck do you believe this? What is driving this into your mindset?
>click bait the thread
>make kickstarter
>oops we had nothing
>cancel kickstarter
>a month later remake it
I'm seriously face palming here. But at least they realized their error very quickly, and didn't let the kickstarter go on for a month. Did Romero really think he'd get through on just his reputation?
>>335924354
>Romeroa , are you still bothering people
No Mr. Moe I was just small talking
>Romero this is your last warning, stop bothering the people we dont pay you here to talk.Now shut up and clean the cars.
>>335912319
>CANCELLED
Except it isn't cancelled you dumb fucking shit.
I can just imagine how excited you were wehen you thought it was though.
I bet your heart started beating really fast and the sweat dripped down you fat greasy body as you ran to your PC to make this thread. Knocking over your piss bottles and slipping on your empty cheetos bags as you ran to your keyboard where you desperately typed away hopping to shitpost you Friday night away about this.
>>335924641
Them cancelling the campaigne at day 4 with 170k raised.
>>335924354
Can you shoop the "just fuck my shit up " face on this photo it would be priceless .
I can imagine Schafer just looking at BLACKROOM's Kickstarter page and thinking to himself: "Holy shit, how fucking stupid does Romero have to be to not take advantage of the goys like I did? Releasing demos of your game DURING your Kickstarter campaign? Come on Romero, it's 2016!"
>>335924804
it literally says cancelled on the kickstarter you dumb nerd
lmaoing at you're life
>>335924812
but they didn't cancel it they paused it so they could make a demo. Lots of people on /v/ said they would support it if the demo looked good but they didn't have one. This is why game company's true to screw """US GAYMERS"""
over all the time. They did what people wanted and you still kick and scream.
Also I guess i'm the idiot for responding to a man posing pictures of fat people.
>>335924995
You are literally a dumb fucking nigger
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/doom-designers-new-fps-crowdfunding-campaign-on-ho/1100-6439347/
This guy is making a clown out of himself,he should have better stayed at what ever the fuck he was doing, now the whole industry is laughing at him.
>>335924695
>oh shit people aren't really liking that new Doom game
>hey I'm that guy who made Doom
>I think I'll publish my new project right now
>to get this game, you must pay me, John Romero
>oh shit I forgot I need to actually show something
>>335922631
>>335923493
>>335924359
>>335924812
why do you keep posting gabourey sidibe? is this your avatar?
I for one have faith in Romero
Prove all the naysayers wrong, you beautiful bastard!
>>335925080
>>to get this game, you must pay me, John Romero
HAHA I recognize this meme You're quite a memer Wanna be friends?
>>335925006
>Lots of people on /v/ said they would support it if the demo looked good but they didn't have one.
So you agree with me, cool.
>>335925113
Because she is the biggest star in America
>>335912319
SUCK
IT
DOWN
>>335925304
>Because she is the biggest star in America
But what does she have to do with the topic?
I only ask because you keep posting pictures of her.
>>335925234
It's not like I don't want a good game from him. But I just don't fully believe in it. I hope I'm wrong, because that just means I get a quality game
http://www.develop-online.net/news/romero-delays-blackroom-kickstarter-to-finish-off-gameplay-demo/0219823
>Veteran designer expects to be able to show off new FPS’ key features in a couple of months
>“All the comments we’ve heard from people say that they want to see some gameplay,” Romero told Develop. “They like the idea, they think it’s really cool but they want to see some of it.”
>“We know the only reason why it wouldn’t is because we didn’t show gameplay. And they’ve told us that. We’re not in a massive rush to hurry up, get all the money and start making the game – we want to do it right. So we’ll stop the fundraising for now, finish the demo we’re working on and then do it again. If they don’t like that, then we don’t make that game – but we think they will like it.”
>Romero predicts that will take one to two months before the demo is ready, at which point the studio will relaunch the Kickstarter campaign with the same goal and reward structure
BASED JOHN ROMERO
He's literally listening to the fans and is level headed in these matters. Point me to another kickstarter project this based. That's right, you can't.
HAHAHAHA
WHO IS NOW THE BITCH YOU FUCKING HACK
>Just days after the Kickstarter campaign began for Doom co-creator John Romero's new FPS Blackroom, it's now been pulled down--but only temporarily. In an update to backers (via NeoGAF), the developers at Night Work Games explained that fans wanted to see actual gameplay instead of teaser art alone. As such, funding is being paused until the development team can get a gameplay demo ready to showcase.
"The team is at work on a demo which demonstrates the kind of gameplay, look and innovative, cool features that make Blackroom truly unique--the things we've waited years to put into an FPS and which make us incredibly excited about this game," the team said.
>To create a worthy demo would take more time than what was left in the campaign, so it was decided to cancel the current crowdfunding effort and launch a new one when the gameplay demo is done.
>"Thanks to the community feedback, we know we should have included it at launch," the developer said.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/doom-designers-new-fps-crowdfunding-campaign-on-ho/1100-6439347/
>now he wants to make a demo first
That's what he should have done in the first place
>>335925471
ehehehehe
So if you already donated but don't like the demo can you take it back?
>>335912319
I'm torn, on one hand I'm glad that he's wised up and decided to cancel the kickstarter until they can actually show some gameplay. On the other hand I'm still salty that he tried to get a game funded based entirely on his name and old ass reputation. I still want to believe that he's seriously passionate about making a new, fun, game and not just going for a quick money grab.
>>335925542
hes baiting people
>Jose Ramirez has a room for bulls to preg up his wife with superior black seed
JUST
>>335925786
It's his first project, give him some slack. At least his outlook is realistic and he cares about the demands of the playerbase. It's basically what every shit eating jerk who are slamming Romero wanted.
>>335912319
They pulled it until they actually had some gameplay to show
![CCRgnpbUwAA6JT6[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/wHUXFnb.png "CCRgnpbUwAA6JT6[2].png")
No demo, then yes demo.. He doesn't know what he's doing
>>335925542
So you reply. When Gabourey is on screen Americans watch.
>get exactly what you wanted
>still shitpost
wow its like you guys arent worth listening to or something
>>335926128
can no 1 shoop the just fuck my shit up face on this photo.
>>335926252
You're at the shitposting gallery.
>>335926252
fuck of Romero go fill up my car and shut up or no tip
>>335926260
stop with your just fuck my shit up fetish
hang yourself
>people say the concept is nice but the lack of demo material is unappealing
>he actually cares and stops the campaign to correct his mistake
>''Lol such a fuckup''
>>335926610
Really, he should have seen it coming. While I did back it because his DOOM maps give me faith, he can't rely on star-power to sell the whole thing using only a couple of images and a pitch. Seems a little arrogant to expect thatwhich everyone else should have also seen coming.
John "Fraser" Romero
>create new game development studio composed of 90% inexperienced but competent Quake modders
>focus on making the best FPS possible
>Internal conflics ruin the studio, many people quit
>PR guy has nothing to show so he publishes ads promoting the company instead of the game
>"John Romero is going to make you his bitch" was one of his ads, and I trusted he knew what he was doing
>I would never say "make you my bitch" because I'm not a faggot, but the ad backfires and everyone hates me now
>No one likes the game because I made it for expert players
>Game a huge failure, company bankrupt
>Forced to make casual mobile games for a decade
>years later try to make a game going back to my roots, with the help of kickstarter
>everyone keeps trolling the "bitch" meme
>kickstarter fails
>kill myself
>>335926774
Well, if Tim Schafer can get away with it two times.
>>335926596
fuck of Romero not my fault you got cucked.
Hate the game and not the player you hack.
>>335926863
2? Wasn't the second time the Iron Brigade guy
>>335912416
A new FPS from Romero and Carmack*
*Adrian Carmack, not John Carmack
>>335927221
They really should change that, people might see the name "carmack" and assume this will be a shitty vr project with megatextures.
>>335926980
3.3 million for an adventure game with no concept art or gameplay.
3.8 million for a shady business model involving Psychonauts 2 with no gameplay either.
>>335926848
You left out the alimony
>>335927329
Actually it's done on purpose to trick a few retards into thinking it's made by classic Id software but ok
>>335927482
Everyone knows that and no one really cares.
>>335927336
>3.8 million
? what is this about? The Fire Emblem&XCom clone?
They raises that much? Fuck
top fucking rofl
>>335927720
yet if they were smart they'd instantly realize marketing a game on false pretenses probably means the game has nothing interesting to offer
