MMO's are dead.
>WoW is too easy and a ghost town
>Guild Wars 2 is boring
>Elder Scrolls has floaty combat
>Final Fantasy is way to weeby and slow
Please, someone tell me theres some hope out there.
>>335907407
Crowfall
If the popular ones are bad, the ones people don't know about aren't any better
WoW needs senior players to help the kiddies to be their cresh care taker thats why when i was 14 i used to love playing alongside adults, it increased comfy factor.
Seriously though any comfy community spirit for all ages and sizes on the horizon?
>>335907407
>>335907460
Elders Scrolls isnt even an MMO honestly
FF14 is garbage, everything is instanced, difficulty is made for weeabo babies who never touched an MMO can succeed and GW2 is another baby like MMO.
Rift was a good promise, but it ended up just copying WoW to its root, so it died.
Wildstar had WoW on its base, but it was far too ambicious for what it could actually do.
The only MMO out there is WoW it might be too easy to level up now a days but the mythic raids are still difficult which is what matters.
>>335907460
Crowfall, when? 2045?
Albion Online seems grindy enough for /v/ autistics
>>335907407
>>Final Fantasy is way to weeby and slow
What a fucking shitter you are. Stop using words you don't know the meaning of. Saged
>>335907662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMguMnsyak
WHEN WILL A GAME CREATE SUCH embraceable attitude of wonder?
Seeing a player level 70 in 2007 and thinking of the monsters and places he has seen whilst i be lv 14 finding elite monsters to be scary hard monsters.
I know a lot of people shit on Mabinogi, but it's like the Runescape of Korea. There's so much fucking shit to do it's insane. It's still pretty P2W but you can have a lot of fun without paying anything, especially if you're playing with buds.
>>335907853
Calm down you slow weeaboo nerd
>>335907853
Hi mum i watch anime.
Seriously, is it we need imaginative nerds to make games now or casual creative programmers?
>>335907926
How can you say that FFXIV is too slow? Has OP an end-game character? I really doubt he has.
>>335907853
cringed
>>335907858
>NE druid
>had to track to Westfall on foot for the aquatic form quest
>never even been in dof lands before
>die a dozen times to alligators
>spend 30 minutes in front of one of those tunnel entrances in Wetlands because for some reason I decided it was an etrance to Ulduar (all I knew about it that it was on EK continent)
>seeing fuckhuge IF gates for the first time and level 60 players dueling in front
fucking good times, I wish I could play a MMO for the first time ever again
The game industry is horse wank right now.
2007 was ace, RS2, WoW, CoD series was normal and respectable with all types and strategy games were palatable.
>>ctrl+f "EVE"
>>0 results
Filthy, filthy plebians.
MMO is alive...in spaaace!
>MMOs are dead thread
People forget EVE exists and it has only improved since 2003
>>335908285
Yeah, the westfall journey, the alligators, hearing the hssss, then in good time the ironforge music and the player who had seen more than meager level 20 alligators.
>>335907858
Wait, I stopped playing WoW shortly after TBC release. Did Blizzard actually remove the old music?
Mabinogi. It's not how it was in the Ye Olde days, but it's still solid. You'll start hitting a brick wall when you realize that getting rich without resorting to the cash shop is fucking hard. Not impossible, but it's literally too easy to get 20 dollars and get at least 3m from gachapons.
Nexon flooding the game with gachapons literally ruined the game's economy.
>>335908403
>>335908420
If EVE is so good, why isn't it mainstream?
>>335908420
>>335908403
Blocky machines in space.
ooo my eyes moving at 1 FPM
>>335907407
Come play BDO
>>335908420
Its playerbase has steadily dwindled, though.
>>335908403
>>335908420
But I don't have autism OR like spread sheets.
>>335908442
No. Might of tuned it in some high level zones.
>>335908285
>I wish I could play a MMO for the first time ever
againYou think you do, but you don't.
>>335907407
Nope, the entire gaming industry is shit now
>>335908568
>BDO
ooo love you long time.
Is it good though?
>>335908512
because it is the most hard core mmo ever.
>>335907407
>Final Fantasy is way to weeby
What the fuck did you expect from a Japanese game?
I watched blizzcon and i am a leading psycho analyst, the programmers are depressed by their leaders and know their spirit for making a game is hindered by profit margins and predictions by marketers of the company.
These programmers shamefully are no autists but have a balanced sense of direction but are abused for polished jew tactics.
>>335908512
Because it's not made for the masses or marketed as such.
Everyone shits on runescape
But I recently back into it after the graphical/client upgrade and I'm having tons of fun
So many new things to do and discover, it feels like I'm a noob all over again
The story has developed extremely well and in depth too
Give it a shot lads
Rsg has all the details you need
>>335908836
But Japanese creativity can serve the world too.
Their genius of chaos creativity is whats needed in western games. Though their appeals in interface is that of mice shit.
>>335908757
It's good If you don't mind giving up everything else in life for the game.
Black desert and EVE are going strong imo
>>335908710
maybe you are right I am 28 now and dont have the free time I had when I was a teenager or the patience.
>>335909086
Is Black Desert worth playing? Is the community fun? Is the combat good? Is this hope?
>>335907407
you are forgetting all mmo's that are not combat centric.
Runescape is still very fun if you enjoy its flavor of mechanics.
Tfw They probably didnt fuck up like all the other mmos simply because java is a shit language to program a game in, which probably made content patches (such at quests) much more viable than feature patches that would have likely fucked everything up.Every feature patch they have added (EoC) has fucked up the game but it took them much longer to push those out than other games like wow
>>335909029
I was feeling this way weeks ago. I might. I even dared WoW, but runescape also dares me. Am just tanning GTA V and fallout 4 for time being though.
>>335908304
Yea 2007 was peak of the millenium video game industry. We need a better gpu, cpu technology to achive former glory of the gaming.
>>335909384
True. PC gaming will need it.
>>335907407
>MMO's are dead.
True as of about 2 years ago (that's when the last 2 MMOs, H&H and wakfu, died).
>WoW is too easy and a ghost town
WoW hasn't been an MMO in a very long time.
>Guild Wars 2 is boring
And also not an MMO
>Elder Scrolls has floaty combat
Still not an MMO
>Final Fantasy is way to weeby and slow
And an MMO it is not.
Eve still exists, and it is still an MMO, but it's also special and niche, and slowly declining.
Most importantly, there isn't any new MMO on the horizon.
>you will never set out to explore the world with some friends again
>you will never find secret quests again
>you will never play instruments in town while a crowd of player accumulates around you and start dancing again
>you will never chat up strangers while grinidng in the same area again
>you will never save a newbie who wandered into a tough mob in an easy area and become best friends again
>you will never attend an in-game game academy again
>>335909201
Eoc was shit on release but they've definitely moved into a positive direction
>pic related your average osrs player
>>335909210
Do it anon, I'll add you if you want a butt buddy to help out with some things
>monkbelf
How is the idea of a massive fantasy place with lots of players and its connotations of action and imagination so fucking hard?
Do workplaces for programmers with companies create brain aneurysms?
>>335907538
The opposite has always been true historically.
A good MMO needs roughly 3 things:
-A dense community (not necessarily large, just dense)
-A heavy focus on player-player interactions (pve or pvp, fighting each other or cooperating)
-A game equilibrium which is not lopsided in favor of one kind of interaction (you don't want 99% of people to camp noobs all day, but you still want strong player killers to waltz into town and the entire group of noob ganging together to try and run him out of town, then all being completely destroyed while the PKer only has 10% HP left)
>>335909637
Am looking at videos of RS3.
Is that your RS name ? monkbelf?
>>335909196
>Is Black Desert worth playing?
If you have a shit ton of time on your hands and you find a group of people to play with
>Is the community fun
The forums is cancer
The ingame chat is Barrens chat 2.0
Guild politics dominate the scene at high level
>Is the combat good
Its combo based action combat. Something like simplified Devil may cry combat I'd say.
>Is this hope?
Yes
what happened to Everquest Next? was it cancelled?
>>335909863
Yea that's the name
Join the friends chat 'grindanfc' for dank memes and just general community, they've been pretty helpful to me
Check the recently released nxt comparison video on the jagex page, released maybe just under 2 weeks ago I believe
>>335907407
Fuck, that ending was so good. Hold me, Big Anon.
>>335910007
Ok, got it, thanks and will check the video out now.
I got your add.
>>335909661
It's because the suits are scared to appeal to niches, so the game has to be easy for even the most casual, must not require interacting with people for the #MLG #360noscope #yolo kids, must give you free gear all the time so that everyone feels rewarded no matter how shit they are at the game, must have a theme as generic as possible because it costs money to do more than that, and also the theme must not matter because otherwise it would confuse people.
Likewise, all pvp actions must be restricted significantly because otherwise people's feelings might be hurt.
>>335907662
I couldn't into leveling in Wildstar.
Levels are arbitrary,
>>335910064
I got you senpai.
>>335909384
1998 was peak. 2007 was the last good year for videogames.
We have significantly better GPUs and CPUs than any game even cares to use, except lazy programmers don't care about optimization whatsoever anymore.
>>335907407
>>335910007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMguMnsyak
Thats amazing, just need to give gta v and fallout 4 a little go, just got them but need an MMO and RS has filled those boots. Expect me Anon.
>>335908420
>>335908512
>If EVE is so good, why isn't it mainstream?
Because they gate the sandbox.
what about maplestory?
>>335907407
Just play Warframe
>>335910314
Welcome aboard friendo :^)
Looking forward to seeing a new youngin in the chat
>>335907407
When the fuck were they ever alive? They've been derivative trash with no roleplaying involved in them since the beginning in the 90s. Shit's fucking nothing but glorified 3D social media platforms with useless item hoarding and autistic levels of grinding.
>>335910534
Linked the wrong video, for anyone interested here is RS recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVNlfJU8dA
>>335910164
But even the "WoW" design is a niche. The idea might be to keep things "standard", but every MMO that's tried this has basically disappeared.
>>335909196
Personally I think it's a fun game, late game you'll need a good community but anything below 52 is plain sailing
Also be prepared to bend over if someone with better gear is in your spot
Crafting is amazing
I play on EU and absolutely love it
>>335910668
No it's not, and especially not modern wow design. After all, wow was at the core an EQ ripoff and EQ was the start of generic MMOs.
>>335910440
It's amazing but people get intimidated by it or don't enjoy the combat/waiting for training
I enjoy it and also enjoy the risk involved in lawless space
>>335910239
legacy incoming.
>>335908420
Eve is great but it's more fun to think and read about than actually play it
>>335907407
Most of your arguments are opinions, so please go ahead and KYS. At least get some actual argumens on the table.
RS3 VS Black desert?
>>335909961
Yes.
>>335911012
You first?
Planetside 2 and games like that are the only fun MMOs these days. It's how they should be. All these themepark pieces of shit don't actually utilize the "massively multiplayer" aspect and just pretend to do so.
>>335911174
>WoW is too easy and a ghost town
Haven't played in a while so can't say
>Guild Wars 2 is boring
its engaging for 15 levels
>Elder Scrolls has floaty combat
pure opinion, i love the game
>Final Fantasy is way to weeby and slow
agree but stil an opinion
are you so stupid that you need me to counter argument first? KYS
>>335911273
Planet side 2, rate it out of 1000 plox./
>>335911430
>leveling is OK
>Skyrim 2 combat is interesting
>agrees with the other points
>>335911642
Skyrim 2? what the fuck are you smoking the combat is nothing like skyrim and its not even meant to be
Not only MMOs are shit the entire game industry is shit.
>>335911430
>>Elder Scrolls has floaty combat
>pure opinion, i love the game
We got a live one!
>>335911784
Yeah its not just the gaming industry its the world at large.
Our ecosystem is suffering so much from laziness and profiteering, and over working peeps that life is sucking creativity to that of a dying rat.
>>335907407
Try to take a look at half-assed projects out there like SOTA or Project: Gorgon. They might scratch your itch for a peculiar MMO experience right.
What about when star citizen comes out?
>>335908512
'Cause then it wouldn't be what is considered good here.
>>335911875
The whole universe is shit. Life is suffering and we shouldn't have been born.
>>335907718
It comes out cross-platform on tablets and pc. How good can a mmo be if it comes out on a fucking tablet
>>335911434
900/1000 my friend. Get some good comrades to play with and a free Friday evening and that game is a fucking blast.
>>335912207
There's a game for Android called Iruna Online and it is pretty good, class diversity, exploration akin to Ragnarok/Maple, no bullshit aka "wait an hour to play 5 minutes". Don't be biased because of the platform
>>335912346
On it.
>>335907407
>Final Fantasy is way to weeby and slow
https://youtu.be/wLCWCPyxByg
>>335911434
2/1000. Optimized like garbage, enjoy max 15 fps in any kind of fight. p2w as hell, with cookie-cutter classes and 100% zergrush being the only "strategy" involved. Extremely poor and unsatisfying gunplay, and exactly 0 balance.
>>335912353
>>>/reddit/
>many good mmo's out there that's not WoW and "wow killers"
>nobody will touch them because they're not wow enough
It's best that they stay as they are. Smaller communities are better in quality.
>>335912597
Jesus lol.
>>335911434
Is dying. SOE had a great thing on their hands, killed it, and now DBG is beating it. The new construction system has no place in this game either. I'll give it until the end of 2016
>>335912874
What are those? I know only of Crowfall, Albion, Shroud of the Avatar and Gorgon.
Isn't Maplestory still fun?
>>335913008
Is it akin to MAG on PS3 back in the day? Where the crazy factor towards the end was the only worthwhile quality? Direction being fumble?
Anyone played animal crossing MMO? The raids are insanes.
>>335907407
Blade & Soul and Black desert were my big expectations for this year but I "temporarily" walked away and now it's hard to look back, maybe after I clear my backlog a bit I will go back to B&S for PvP
Next in my scope is Dragon's Dogma Online because I loved the original so 4 player coop must be great, also Alchemist looks awesome
Also Kingdom Under Fire 2, looks really pretty and I like that it's a mix between RTS and hack & slash, I'm intrigued even if it's only for the innovation
Phantasy Star Online 2 intrigued me when they showed flying boots weapons and apparently they have mechs, would play but I can't be assed to set a VPN
I'm not really into isometric but Lost Ark looks amazing as well with warrior and brawler classes too
>>335907407
Tree of Savior is fun an nostalgic. Played until 80 and then put it down because, meh what's new + so linear
>>335913328
FF XI by Nexon!
^_^
>>335907407
MABINOGI IS ALWAYS FUN
Goat simulator set for an MMO this year.
>>335907407
They wouldn't be if pic happened, but it won't for at least a decade, or even a few more
>>335913882
Wow such a good idea.
I choose you, Weeabochu.
what about tree of savior?
>>335913410
Buggy as fucked, collapsed economy GARBAGE mmo that ends.
Zero need for crafter classes when you can get to max level with minimal effort.
What an affront to Ragnarok.
>>335907407
>Final Fantasy
>slow
"i never got past level 30 lol mom look at me posting"
>>335913882
There used to be a pretty good custom pokemon MMO called Pokemon Cyrus Online (PCO). With custom I mean that they had a custom world, custom items and mixed gen pokemon all over the place. Too bad the game died late 2014 due to lack of players. But according to their Facebook page they're developing a complete new pokemon game and will try to release it on steam, but I doubt that'll happen.
>>335909562
My favourite MMO Dofus is also dying rapidly.
Planetside 2 is actually really fun. Whether it's an actual MMO or not is debatable but I quite like it.
>>335907407
>has the same size subscriber base as it did during its prime
>ghost town
>Dragon's Nest and Vindictus are dead in NA
>PSO2 has jack shit for non-EQ content
>Monster Hunter Online is operated by Tencent
Don't die on me action MMOs
>>335915085
>it's all Chink cafe "subs"
>>335914216
>Forced to swallow shit to move on to the main course of vomit
>>335915283
did you mean: the witcher
>>335913008
Wtf is dbg
>>335912524
That looks fucking hilarious. Is this really what is trigger OP or is it the catgirls?
>>335912524
brute justice was such an exciting fight
>dat fusion
>dat theme
>dat throwback to previous floors
>dat split phase
so good. too bad it's ruined by having to run it one billion times every week until rolls favour youalso the people in that video, what the fuck they're terrible
>>335915664
Google it faggot. Daybreak Games. The company that owns Planetcrutch 2
>>335913089
Fuck no, hasn't been even playable since bigbang. Reboot was a hoax, it was the same game without cashshop and minor tweaks, but the same non-gameplay and non-map.
>>335911089
what happened to all the money people spent backing it?
>>335913234
>animal crossing MMO
u wot m8?
>The raids are insanes.
I'm trying to imagine animal crossing with 100 people in one town, and underground resetti dungeon raids.
>>335913623
Was*. Nexon killed it. It was 2000/10 best thing ever made back in the days, though.
>>335914845
I know, I consider it to be already dead actually.
>>335907662
>335907662
Wildstar would have been a good game for me if having 250 ping wasn't a huge handicap.
I had to aim and predict my telegraphs where they would be moving a second before they moved to actually hit them.
Also, hoverboards aren't what it was advertised as.
>>335910529
Warframe would be nice if I didn't sit in my fucking ship all the time.
>>335914924
It's an MSO (massively singleplayer online) game, just like WoW today, but it's not an MMO on account of having fuckall social interactions (everything might as well be an NPC, cooperation is a joke with people barely communicating, let alone meaningfully, all activities are pure PvP, etc.).
>>335916056
>what the fuck they're terrible
They're console players.
>>335918078
So have you ever actually played it personally or what, cuz you sound like someone who played for maybe an hour or two and never got off the tutorial continent and based your entire opinion off of that. You certainly never joined any squads or platoons.
>>335911994
when?
>>335918449
Hello DBG shill! How much are you paid per post exactly? Maybe I should apply, sounds comfy and easy!
>>335907407
>wow is too easy
link armory full mythic clear with no carry or 2500+ arena/rbg or stfu
Exploration in GW2 is fucking amazing, the soundtrack too and i really enjoy the fast combat, but the community and constant retarded decisions of Anet made that game unplayable for me.
>>335919074
the combat was pretty shit desu. it's also impossible to see anything when there's all this flashing shit happening.
>>335918703
>about 5% have completed mythic
Strawman.
I'm cautiously optimistic for crowfall. They seem to have great ideas but I'm a bit skeptical they can pull it off.
Other than that there really isn't much to look forward to.
I wouldn't want you little shits ruining my EVE anyways. It's the Kool Kids Klub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p83lexXv-ZE
>>335908512
Implying "mainstream" means something is good...
have fun with your xbone modern shooters
>>335909128
>and dont have the free time I had when I was a teenager or the patience
The lack of free time could actually be a minor upside, it prolongs the game so you won't deplete content as quickly.
>>335912524
>all those plebs with the retardwalk bound on S
> Elder Scrolls have floaty combat
dude what
it's basically the only game where it actually feels as if you're hitting and blocking someone. Are you being a bitch about not being able to lock onto people?
>>335908512
Because everyone here is a special snowflake hipster and shuns anything mainstream as shit.
So basically what this thread is telling me, is that there is no good MMO's out there?
welp.
>>335910992
This. I love reading about the stories coming out of there, and I love seeing their trailers. But playing it? Not so much.
>>335909562
>Most importantly, there isn't any new MMO on the horizon.
Pantheon nigga.
>>335921292
Correct, they're all dead, right to the last one, beside eve which is a thing of its own anyway.
>>335921292
>>335921292
Someone's gonna have to turn the MMO formula on it's fucking head at some point.
Otherwise as a genre it's good and fuckin' gone.
Nobody seems to be able to keep the content coming at a sustainable pass in necessary qualities.
They've all copied the same sale ass mechanics to no benefit, or been unnable to ascertain a realistic goal for innovation for whatever reason.
Blizzard had the golden snitch in it's grasp, then pitched it in a stream somewhere during a stroll.
CCP caught glimpses of it. The folks behind Neocron heard rumours of where it was.
But ultimately nobody has found it again.
>>335920708
as opposed to what?
>>335923127
>Someone's gonna have to turn the MMO formula on it's fucking head at some point.
No. Someone has to bring back the MMO formula instead of making massively singleplayer online games.
>>335923842
>>335923842
There's no point. It doesn't work in it's current iteration.
It's not financially sustainable or profitable for anyone interested in the genre.
Something needs to change.
>>335907407
Black Desert Online has so much potential.
>pros
-excellent combat system, best in any mmo
-seamless world to explore, only loading screen is first entering world or switching characters
-no instancing, no teleporting, no fast travel
-node system is interesting
-beautiful armor design
-world is massive
-housing system
-hire workers to gather shit for you
-build fishing boats
>cons
-korean
-pvp is fun, but unless you're a lifeless sperg you will fall behind the power curve
-huge imbalance of classes (ranger and sorc are OP as fuck, the newly released blader has bugged defense values and hits like a flashy wet noodle)
-korean
-shit story
-garbage UI
-korean
-script kiddies running rampant atm
-over priced cash shop
-fucking korean
-dumb AI, easy enemies
-no dungeons
-no raids
-RNG upgrade system can fuck off
God damnit western devs, take note on the good points of this game and make a fucking in depth mmo
>>335924035
Don't talk about shit you don't even have a hint of a clue about, underageb&.
You must be 18 or older to browse this site.
>>335924470
>game literally so shit it died in korea before it even reached the US
OK kid
>>335924629
>>335924629
Go talk to Bioware how SWTOR worked out for them with that fucking 220m budget and not being able to shit out enough content for their rabid fanbase they were banking on to make them rich.
you memespouting shitshlupping fuck.
Does anyone know or expect anything out of Bless Online or Revelation Online? when I first heard about the latter it was described as having an emphasis on fashion, instruments and flying but I've never heard about it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrMy5-qYtVY&feature=youtu.be
>>335924719
He said it has potential, not that it's good though, I agree with that
>>335924470
The no teleporting could be a con for many, the world is pretty to look at but if you have a shit donkey (which you shouldn't past lv 20 anyway) it can be very slow or if you are 45+ and at war with other guilds you can't really afford to auto travel which is unfortunate because about a lot of the stuff in this game seems to be made for multi tasking while you wait
>Metal Gear MMO
>>335924719
there are shitty aspects, sure, but to call it "ded" is dumb.
>channel pops as of 12:39
during primetime all channels on all servers are crowded
>>335924470
I played the Jap version of it, only thing I can say is
LEARN HOW TO DO THE SKILLS PROPERLY
and
ITS FUCKING SHIT PLAYING SOLO
>>335907407
Pantheon Rise of the Fallen and Camelot Unchained
I would have loved to say EverQuest Next but those fucking cunts at Sony made sure it would never happen.
>>335924920
Swtor's making a profit now.
>>335923614
Turning around quickly like you do on a controller.
>>335924920
>you memespouting shitshlupping fuck.
Oh the irony. Swtor did well before after becoming f2p. 5 seconds on google will tell you that
Elder scrolls had potential.
Besides the lore.
>>335918113
PC players in FFXIV really aren't much better. It depends much more on your region, seeing as how most Americans are shit.
>>335925343
No, he said
>has
and
>western devs, take note on the good points of this game and make a fucking in depth mmo
Implying the game had any good points, especially compared to the best MMOs ever made like SWG or tibia.
>>335924920
You must be 18 or older to post on this site.
What do you even get by pretending so hard to have ever played an MMO in your life?
>>335925476
>at least 2 players is crowded
>"look it's crowded looook it's not dead I swear look good goy"
>>335924470
>-script kiddies running rampant atm
Explain? Read something about people rigging world boss drops for themselves, but not even Daum could fuck up that badly.
>>335925476
EU side seems constantly crowded too. The afk mechanics inflate the numbers however.
I've been having fun with Tree of Savior. Best MMO I've played since Aika Online.
>first mmo i played was ragnarok at 2005
>played shittons of other mmo's too many to count
>still sometimes play on private servers without keknewal after 11 fucking years
Only other mmo i truly enjoyed was lotro+mines of moria expansion.
>>335925614
>Pantheon Rise of the Fallen
Wow clone with "we're totally a wow clone guys we know you've heard this joke a billion times before but trust us goyim it's for real this time"
>Camelot Unchained
Looks like a typical kikestarter-tier "our game will have literally everything!" future shovelware.
>>335926606
Then you must have played aika online yesterday.
>>335926660
Hello millennial
>>335926740
/v/ has a hard on for hating ToS and the game does have its problems but I'm definitely having fun with it despite all that. I think more people would like the game if they gave it a chance in the first place. The core game is good and a number of things around it are bad, but still, the core game is good and fun. We'll see what happens when F2P comes around (May 10th)
>>335926660
>Game is literally marketed as being an EverQuest clone
>"it's a wow clone"
Why would you embarrass yourself like that? Have you no shame? I mean when I don't know something I don't randomly spew bullshit about it just to make me look like a retard.
>>335922594
>Unity based MMO
>>335926903
>I think more people have literally never played a game in their life before and came straight from leredditxd like myself
>>>/reddit/
>>335927264
The embarrassing part is where you aren't even aware of the fact that wow is also an everquest clone and that people who advertise themselves as everquest clones (that has happened before, yes) do so only so they can pretend not to be wow clones while actually being wow clones.
Not that I expect any better from wowbabbies like yourself, though.
>>335927530
Based on the number of keys on each CBT and how there was no discussion of the game once it launched here, I'd say most people on /v/ haven't played it and are parroting the opinions of people who played it but didn't like it for whatever reason.
>>335927673
You know where to go
>>>/reddit/
>>335927730
Anon, are you okay?
>>335926554
(You)
>>335928040
(Goy)
>>335927658
>That pathetic attempt at damage control coming from a clueless kid
The only thing EQ and WoW have in common is that they're both mmorpgs.
>>335928186
Are you 12 or are you just pretending to be retarded?
There's always realm of the mad god
>>335928249
Anyone who have played EQ would be laughing at you for call WoW an EQ clone. You're ignorant and pathetic.
>>335927264
>>335927658
>People implying WoW isn't just a Warcraft version of Everquest
>>335928516
So you are 12. You do realize that you're not allowed to be on this site for the next 6 years, yes?
>>335928701
>I've never played EverQuest and WoW
I'm surprised no one has posted this yet, seeing how it's the most popular MMO worldwide.
>>335928481
It's not really an MMO (but it's one of these rare games that can be said to have "mmo features"), it's also become entirely p2w.
BDO is a fun mixture of Sandbox and Themepark
>>335928998
Epic grinding drove me off.
>>335928998
Well, given that it's not an MMO in any way, shape or form...
>>335928928
>he thinks if he trolls hard enough he won't look dumb
Too late bud sorry, shallow shitposting won't change anything
>>335929053
BDO is an unfun mixture of Garbage and Dogshit
>>335928998
>335928998
love this game epic grind is the real hell tho
>>335910586
RGnarok online was the peak if mmos
World of warcraft for the burgers
>>335928998
It's a great idea, but spending literally months of set grinding isn't worth it.
>>335929475
>mindless simplistic 2d grinder
>"the peak of mmos"
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>335928998
I love this game
Gearing for "endgame" is what made me quit along with the jewery
>>335928998
>seeing how it's the most popular MMO worldwide.
90% of the game's profits come from zombie chinks in their watered down version
Take that as you will
>>335929953
It so easy to discredit RO if you put it that way
Dont talk shit when you didnt play it back then but it was HUGE worldwide
>>335926183
can you even do that on keyboard?
Y'all should come take a trip down memory lane when mmos were actually challenging and rewarded patience but punished carelessness.
Project1999
>>335929475
No.
swg, tibia, UO, tricksters, mabinogi, dofus, h&h, etc. were the peak of MMOs.
>>335930296
Fuck off, my highschool gf dragged me on this garbage in..fuck that was a long time ago, 2004? By that time I had already played Ultima Online, EverQuest, DAOC and Star Wars Galaxy.
I got so fucking bored with that shallow game that I was botting on the 3rd day of playing it.
>>335913410
I've been playing this for a while.
It's fun, but it's also merciless: do the stats/skills wrong and u end up with a useless pg. Builds and classes combinations aren't that endless as they want us to believe.
>>335930826
Why isn't /v/ playing SWG?
>BnS was a flop
>BDO is buy to play and apparently has an annoying cash shop already
>Tera is floundering to its slow death
>SWTOR is supposedly alright if you want to play a story, but not beyond that
>Tree of Savior has western devs working to make things nice, but the game has no substance because korean games must be grindy as fuck
>>335907662
>difficulty is made for weeabo babies who never touched an MMO can succeed
Until you get to fucking endgame, yeah.
How is archage? I know the publisher jewed the fuck outta the game but is the core gameplay and mechanics good?
>meeting with NostalBegins
>mfw Blizzard will make "classic" server
>>335931124
SWG died forever ago, but people play swgemu still. /vg/ has a thread even, I think. Real MMOs don't usually work without large populations, though.
>>335908403
Maria?
>>335931595
I bet they can't wait to say "I told you so" when it dies in a year
>>335931354
Core gameplay was meh as fuck, core mechanics were fairly good. Game was jewed to death though.
>>335911430
>pure opinion, i love the game
Elder Scrolls online is like the definition of floaty combat
it tries to look like action combat like TES games but it's actually just like tab-targeting via mouse - you can't actually miss.
devs are also complete and obvious retards - they actually tried to use Skyrims stat system for an MMO instead of Oblivion or an older game
>>335931768
It probably will die in a year, and it will be 100% their fault as demonstrated by the nostalrius team pre-shutdown.
>>335907407
people always talk about the good old days
but would anyone actually play a poopsock grindfest in 2016?
>>335907407
MMOs aren't dead, It's the community that's dead. People don't act like they use to
>>335908134
It's still got a thinking weeboo aesthetic. Everyone looks like a fucking j-pop star.
>>335907407
>waaah muh games arent all 100% the same
fuck off with your bad opinion and anyone that agrees
>>335924470
>beautiful armour design
Yeah, if I you don't mind spending 30 bucks. The cash shop seriously put me off this game.
>>335931941
YES
THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN TIME AND AGAIN
EVERY GAME THAT HAS TRIED THAT HAS SUCCEEDED
THEN THE DEVS WENT FULL GREEDY AND DECIDED TO DUMB EVERYTHING DOWN
AND THEN THE GAME DIED
BUT it's never been ABOUT the grind. The grind exists to have people strive for something and work together toward something. The bigger the grind, the better the sense of camaraderie while moaning and bitching about the dev's sadism.
Just grinding and no other activity ingame is enough to cause this, but a truly good MMO always strives on relations between players. Lots of emotes, lots of cosmetics, lots of ways to mess around when not fighting (e.g. ingame playing cards game, or exploration, or composing MIDI songs to play on your instrument). Also, the grind is not needed at all either, it's just the easiest way to cause this effect where people absolutely want to gang together and do things.
Another VERY important aspect, with regard to grind, is that it must always be faster to grind in a team than alone. Bring party exp bonuses back, and various exp sharing scheme and so on.
>>335932452
Actually people are bothered by the fact that games ARE 100% the same. Nice try though, shill.
>>335915085
>has the same size subscriber base as it did during its prime spread across more places
Fixed that for you.
>>335932178
Because the games catered to them.
With LFG, easy overworlds, etc, there's no reason to hold a community.
>>335928516
But WoW is an EQ clone you dense motherfucker.
>>335927376
>le unity is bad meme
>>335908578
you can only get rekt by goons so many times
![the-secret-world-img-4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oqOfUlu.jpg "the-secret-world-img-4[1].jpg")
>>335907407
Come and play faggot, it'sfunTemplars for life
>>335907407
Dwarf Fortress is always there
>>335927658
It literally has the original everquest designer working on it as lead dev you tard.
>>335932273
You're confusing it with FFXV, dumb fuck. The art design in XIV is fine.
>>335927376
Can't be as bad as UT3.
Dear god every korean mmo uses that engine and it's always shit.
>>335933505
Korean MMOs were shit long before U3 made it's debut.
>>335933354
It would have been better as an offline game so they could have more wiggle room with the combat.
>>335933453
Number of people who care: 0
>>335910285
>>335909384
Blame 'Murica's consolization of PC games.
>>335934025
Case in point, 2007 was the last year a AAA game outside the strategy genre was designed for PC.
>>335933897
The combat is fine imo. Nothing great but the boss design makes up for it. End game PVE is really good.
PVP however is hot garbage but heh.
>>335908420
T3Ds ruined small gang PvP
In general the game favours small ships way too much
>>335933505
>Single player UE3 game
>Always well optimized outside water and shadows
>MMO UE3 game
>Less stable than FF4.0
How the fuck do they do it?
>>335908757
There is no end game
>>335934912
UE is no good for wide-open areas.
>>335908757
It's trash.
>>335926903
I put almost 100 hours in the first week which is a ton for me and I got burnt out hard. All the technical issues, the stress of wondering if I was speccing my class wrong, and the pressure to keep up with the curve of everyone else was too much. I need to stop trying to play Korean MMOs. The same exact shit happened with Archeage last year.
>>335932893
>I've never played EverQuest
