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>at walmart today
>check out games just because
>see this
huh, didn't even know it was out yet. how is it? I loved the first despite all the repetitive backtracking.
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>>335895113

shit
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>>335895164
why?
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>>335895265
censorship
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>>335895113

I dunno about the english since I played the EUR version, but it's fine. If you like BD you'll probably enjoy it. The only super negative in the game for me was choosing between options for asterisk. Never ended up choosing what I really felt but what I wanted as an asterisk.
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Censored to hell and back
Not just costumes this time, you literally cannot make a 'wrong choice', you always get the best ending, which is completely out of line with the themes of the game.
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>>335895327
Who gives a fuck how is the gameplay? Is using actual strategy and job builds necessary or can you just win with DPS autoattack and healers
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>>335895516
It's the first game's gameplay but better. Pirates are still OP.
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>>335895327

Who gives a shit? Yew and his merry men of faggots are forgettable and all that matters in the end is that Tiz and Agnes finally hook up.
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>>335895113
Seems like everyone here loved the first and then got bored with the whole series.
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Should I hack my N3DS XL? Do i need a microSD card and an adapter to plug it on a PC?
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>>335895801
I bought the first one because it looked like it would be up my alley but it could be one of the most boring games I've ever played.
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>>335895324

fuck your meme, this isn't even censored.
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Old characters are now a caricature of themselves, Agnes might as well be a new person entirely.
New characters are totally forgettable.
Story doesn't really start until 20 hours in when the tweest happens.
Final boss is one big joke.
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I'm liking it desu. Everybody is thick and the lack of porn kills me.
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>>335895113
It's okay.
Not as good as Golden Sun to Golden Sun 2 transition. Not as bad as Golden Sun 2 to Golden Sun: Dark Dawn transition.
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>>335895801
It is one of the most boring rpg series ever. Censorship didn't help to make it any less boring
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>>335895113
>gameplay is a bit improved from the previous game
>story has taken a gigantic nosedive, it's legitimately terrible
>literally two boring mc characters in the party, generic waifu Magnolia (who's nothing like she was in the trailer) and an absolutely butchered Edea
>Censored costumes and LE artbook (the latter of which is super scummy because physical extras aren't even rated by ESRB)
>script filled with memes, what's funny is that the original japanese had even more memes
>much shittier soundtrack because Revo wasn't on board
>game is almost entirely reused assets
>Those cool Ba'al monsters don't even become relevant until the last couple of minutes
It's complete shit, I'd avoid it unless you're desperately in love with BD's battle system.
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> yfw you Spellcraft a Hammer onto a summon for the first time.
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It's somehow worse than the first
Only redeeming thing are the QoL improvements, like being able to queue 4 attacks by just pressing L instead of going through the whole thing 4 times
but it's really fucking boring
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Censorship, censorship everywhere

They censored tons of costumes

They actually spent time and money to remove one costume and replace it with another

They censored the story to remove "bad ends"

They even censored shit in the fucking artbook
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>>335895113
It's great, I love it! Personally, I think it's just as good as the first, minus the music. Also, the repetition and annoyances really halt after chapter 2. Keep that in mind.
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Can we stop with this "censored bad ends" meme?
The only reason they were cut is because they were a retarded design choice, forcing you to miss on jobs to see the "true" ends (2 minutes of cutscenes) and to play the entire game 3 times to get everything.
I wish they did something like that for the first game, cutting some of the reashed chapters.
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>>335896886
>They even censored shit in the fucking artbook

didn't they get rid of any red string or something that was on Agnes?
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>>335896420
Are you ok with Anne stomping your dick with her boots.
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>>335897563
Can we stop with this "censored bad ends" meme?

LOL, you feel right into the bullshit PR excuse by Square Enix. Here's the thing: about the JP version:

Since the very first in a series of demos appeared for the first game, the developers used the feedback to improve the game for it's release. Then they made two more versions of the original. Then they used a massive survey to take in improvements for the sequel. Then they used the feedback's from the sequel's demo to improve that and got increasingly more feedback before it's release. Then they released a patch after the game was released in Japan. IN ALL OF THESE TIMES, NOTHING WAS TAKEN OUT OF BRAVELY DEFAULT OR SECOND. (With the rare exception of some voice data in a Free to play version of the game. Yes, Bravely Default is F2P now in JP).

It seems awfully suspicious that they wouldn't release a patch for Japanese players if that was the case. There's no way, considering how they handled the bravely series to that point, that wouldn't have been a thing to do.
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>>335895327
Fuck that shit
Having played it, I'm glad they changed the side quests, they were fucking retarded in the original release and they changed them based on JAPANESE feedback.
It originally made you pick a stupid choice you didn't like if you wanted a certain job and then the game punished you no matter what you chose.
All you censorshipfags need to fuck off.
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>>335896630
>memes
I didn't see a single meme in this game faggot.
Stop spouting off bullshit.
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>>335895870

please respond
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>Literally
>censored and edited the art book
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>>335899086
>Enemy Crab
>uses Massive Damage
really?
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>>335899010
>Having played it, I'm glad they changed the side quests, they were fucking retarded in the original release and they changed them based on JAPANESE feedback.

I already BTFO your bullshit here >>335898963. Stop being stupid. If the Feedback was so important, this would not be a western exclusive change only, it would have made it's way back to Japan based on how they handled the entire series there.
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>>335895113
its crazy to see simple outfit censorship eventually become actual story editing and removal of bad endings.

i really wish players would vote with their wallet or resort to piracy. these bad localizations are going too far.
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>>335898963
Explain why making you play the whole game 3 times to get every job and good end is brilliant game design. I'm waiting.
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>>335899494
>Explain why making you play the whole game 3 times to get every job and good end is brilliant game design

Explain to me if this change was so important, it was not made to the Japanese version before, i'm waiting
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>>335895327
Could someone explain the whole "Wrong Choice" to me? I keep thinking that between the two asterisk users there's a wrong choice and a right choice.
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>>335896247
>content that gets removed only in the west because "it may offend someone" is not censorship
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>>335896247
>this isn't even censored.
you just fucked up
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>>335895113
le "censorship is new" meme

Only children who started with the PS3 generation bitch about this because they didn't know how much worse it was back before then.

People comparing what Nintendo does to 4kids also have no clue what they are talking about When Fire Emblem removes ALL rreferences to death, killing, or war, changes all weapons to toys, removes all instances of written word (being Japanese, English, or even made-up languages), and removes any reference to gods or anything even slightly religion-themed, THEN you can say what you want.
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>>335899591
>why wasn't the game radically changed after it was released
That's not really something you "patch out".

>>335899661
>developers making a decision on the game's content is censorship
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>>335899591
So you can't refute the fact that the change was an improvement gameplay wise but you're still against it because...?
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>>335899591
I'm not sure if that change can be made so easily though
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>>335899767
>My water only has 50% fecal matter instead of 75% so it's good to drink
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>>335899645
If you want to see the good end you have to side with the same asterisk holder 2 times, missing out on the other asterisk.
In the western version you get the true end the first time and you're free to get the other asterisk too without replaying the game.
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>>335899362
>muh samefag
Not even that guy faggot. It wasn't something worth rereleasing the entire game again. They also fixed bugs and such like the summoner bug that's only in the JP version?
By your logic, that change is also bad because they didn't remake the entire game again just to fix it.
Localization gives lots of easy time and money to fix blatantly awful story bits and glitches in games, most companies like to use Japan as beta testers.

>>335899645
In the game, side quests have two asterisk holders in a disagreement. And the one you side against fights you and they get their job. The issue is that most of them have a pretty hard good and bad choice and are rather black and white, but if you want the job that good side has, you have to pick the "bad ending" and then other characters chastise you for it afterwards.

For example the thief and redmage have a disagreement about a magic water stone. The thief wants to set it back in its chamber so that the springs and oasises come back and all the poor people dying of thirst will survive.
The red mage wants it for himself because he needs it for massive amounts of water needed to MAYBE create this magic source of energy to help the world and it MIGHT blow up and destroy everything. And the only reason he needs the stone is because he's too stubborn to move his research to a watery place like florum and instead suggests all the poor people should move instead.

The thief is pretty clearly the 'moral' choice here but if you want the thief job then you have to fuck all the people over and they all tell you how awful you are for making their nation suffer. And this is AFTER the supposed 'censorship', the JP version was much worse than this.
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>>335899878

>removed endings
>removed classes
>removed areas
>not censorship because the developer agreed to do it

Okay
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>>335896370
wait is this the old game or the new game we're talking about
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ITT: Censorship apologists

What do you gain from defending it? You just lose out on even more content.

>"outfits don't matter"
Yeah, at first it was outfits, now endings get cut, a character is changed to another because it would offend some special snowflakes, the translations are absolutely shit and in FE even a gameplay mechanic was cut.
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>>335900216
Don't forget
>LITERALLY censored art in the artbook
>ACTUALLY CENSORING ART
but it's not censorship!
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>>335900216
>removed classes
>removed areas
Now this is shitposting.
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>>335899948
>So you can't refute the fact that the change was an improvement

Locking out dialogue and player decision and consequence is a improvement?
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It's barely even a new game.
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>>335900306

There were multiple endings.

Now there is one. They removed side quests and bosses. All for localization.
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>>335900271
Censorshipfags are the worst cancer. Just learn Nip and stop bitching if every single change to a game triggers you even when it makes the game better.
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>main character is a faggot
>CUT SCENES
>CUT SCENES FUCKING EVERYWHERE
>you have to pick between 2 jobs in side quests and have to wait until the 2nd to last chapter to get the ones you didn't pick
>new brave mechanic is ok
>added a consecutive battle mechanic so you can grind JP and XP super fast
>reused world map
>chomp crafting is stupid. just press your buffs 5 seconds before they finish crafting, the game
>literally fucking dark souls windmill tier part of the game you'll probably have to gamefaq to get past

i give it an 8 but only because of the way I played the game. I turned encounter rate to -100%, ran through the entire dungeon until I got to the save guy and grinded right there and healed when needed and fought the bosses when I felt ready.
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>>335900638
Please list all these quests and bosses they removed then.
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>>335900640
Censorship has never made a game better
>you should spend years learning a useless language just because """""""""""""""""""""""localizers""""""""""""""""""""""""" can't do their fucking jobs
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>>335900640
I hear (You), no need to b8 so much, anon.
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>>335900716
>changing awful story mechanics that punish the player no matter what they did
>not better
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>>335900638
>There were multiple endings.

for sidequests. You make it sound like they removed an ending to a game
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>>335900789
Don't you think you should stop with the false flagging? I know /v/ is a shithole, but because of sad fucks like (You) who b8 for replies this place has become even more shit.
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>>335900089
More like:

>Man, this water is great.
>BUT IT HAS .0000000005% impurity! IT'S SHIIIIIT
>Nah, it's fine. Used to be .0008%. We've come a good distance in clarity
>SHIIIIIIIIT
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Boy, I love literally never being able to talk about an RPG without the 'censored!!1' knuckleheads showing up. This is the future we have ahead of us, a new 'controversey' every two weeks because gg snakeoil salesmen like nichegamer and mombot whip their cult followers into a frenzy.
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>>335900680
I played like that too. I'm betting a large chunk of players did as well.
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>>335900271
You all talk about slippery slopes, but you don't realize it's been going in the opposite direction for years. See >>335899767. It's been getting less strict, not more.
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>>335900931
>censoring costumes, changing character appearances wholesale, removing bad endings, censoring actual art
>not 4kids-tier
Keep defending censorship anon, I'm sure those SJWs at Treehouse will touch your dick one day
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>>335899767
>>335901010
Ah, so we should wait until the game's 100% censored and then start bitching? The fact that you are ok with any kind of censorship is just baffling me, but I don't expect any less from /v/.
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FACT: the only change in this game that's censorship is changing tomahawk into sharpshooter (which doesn't even effect gameplay) because the stupid natives would complain.
Everything else is a straight improvement only brought up by censorshipfags who literally cannot stop sucking dicks.
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>>335899767
>Current Year
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>>335900941
>'censored!!1' knuckleheads

this perfectly describes them. Hell, they called Dragon's Dogma's PC port "censored trash" due to two sets of equipment being removed because of anime license issues
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>>335900941
>stop criticizing my game!
>leave based Treehouse alone, we sent them a card and everything we should suck their cock now!
There's plenty of RPGs which haven't been butchered like Trails, it turns out that when people fuck up a game the people who were planning on buying it get pissed.

>>335901203
>removing art from the artbook
>altering costumes to be less revealing
>not censorship
.10 has been deposited into your account
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>>335900878

They were game endings.

You got to choose who to side with at the end.
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>>335900941
You know, you're _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . Censorship really isn't a _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . We should just _ _ _ _ _ _ _ and _ _ _ _ _ _ _ so that we _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . After all, it's all about _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . moot _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , don't _ _ _ _ _ _ _ him about it.
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>>335901075
>using the term sjw without a shred of irony

Kill yourself faggot
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>>335900271
I could literally never give a fuck about a story in games.
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>>335901373
>defending censorship without a shred of irony
kill yourself sjw
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So is the entire Phoenix Weight series nothing but censored shit because they changed the location to something Western consumers would be more familiar with?
Is Pokemon R&B censored trash because they didn't use the awful original sprites?
Is SMB2 censored trash because it's not the "pure" Doki Doki panic?
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>>335901279
Except that didn't happen besides maybe one or two shitposters. Nice try though.
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>>335895113
It's Bravely Censored to shit famalam, do yourself a favor and pirate it with the uncensor patch
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holy shit I just want to know if the fucking GAME is good

Like take a step back and imagine you know nothing about the Japanese version and what is and isn't changed from it in the Western version. Imagine only the Western version we have now exists.

How is the fucking game?
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>>335901404
>>335901494
There's no use arguing with false flaggers, anons.
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>>335901075
>removing bad endings
done by the devs

The rest are standard fare for any company, and have been for decades.
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>>335901421
Yes to all three. Do you even need to ask?

Do you even comprehend what censorship is?
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>>335901127
>Ah, so we should wait until the game's 100% censored and then start bitching?
Did you not read what either of those posts typed out?

>>335901127
>The fact that you are ok with any kind of censorship is just baffling me
I'm not, but sitting around whining on 4chan won't fix it. Nor will not buying the game, if history has taught me anything. And guess what, not one game that was "censored" has been less enjoyable for it.
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>>335901546
Okay/10
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>>335901603
>its done by the devs so its okay
>everyone else does it so it's okay
Call me when Etrian Odyssey (another T-rated game) gets its outfits censored.
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>>335900680
>literally fucking dark souls windmill tier part of the game you'll probably have to gamefaq to get past

what part was that? in the early game there were some pretty balls-to-the-wall boss fights since you couldn't exploit retardedly broken jobs yet, but i dont remember there being anything in the realm of "set this metal pole on fire".
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>>335901279
>this perfectly describes them. Hell, they called Dragon's Dogma's PC port "censored trash" due to two sets of equipment being removed because of anime license issues

People were bitching more about the lack of Japanese voices that were in the console versions of Dark Arisen then the 2 equipment sets but nice try though.
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>>335901546
NO NONO N ON ON O NO NON ON O
CENSERSHIPO EVUL, KILL NINTENDO!!!!!!!! SHITTENDO AM I RITE? NINTENDOOOMED
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>>335901703
It's totally less enjoyable if you're a NEET weeb whose only enjoyment in life is playing barbie with pedo tier "waifu" pixels on a fucking 240p screen.

So no loss really
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With so many well-reasoned criticisms against localisation and censorship changes in this thread, it's a wonder the movement hasn't picked up more momentum.
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I bought it, played the demo before starting it, and returned it. I think bravely default was a nice surprise but it was probably a one time thing only
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>>335901546
It's shit

See >>335896630
Think of a really shitty, derivative anime
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>>335901421
Censorship fags only complain when it affects tits / ass. Other points only get bought up when their arguments get torn to shreds or they get called out for the pedos / perverts they are.

Quite sad to see really, its like they dont know how real life works.
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>>335901826
>I don't have any arguments so here's an ad hominem
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>>335901737
Probably the Yokai shit
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>>335901703
>"When Fire Emblem removes ALL [...] THEN you can say what you want."

I don't care what happened before, I care what happens now and in the future. According to you guys we should just sit around and wait until we can't do anything anymore.

>I'm not
>And guess what, not one game that was "censored" has been less enjoyable for it.

You're not ok with censorship, but still keep buying censored games and eating shit, ok.

>>335901826
Ahh, yes. The "only pathetic virgin losers are against censorship". No need to b8 so hard, anon. Here's one for (You)
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monk - only for made for FF6fags
white mage - muh traditional healer fags
black mage - only level for support skills
knight - shit
thief - average
merchant - need gamefaqs open to play
spell fencer - for muh no spellcaster team edgelords
time mage - broken shit with meteor + wizard
ranger - furfags
summoner - literally fags
valkyrie - slow garbage
red mage - HAHAHAHAHA
salve-maker - god tier. literally
performer - fags that put edea as their lead
pirate - good
ninja - broken like in every fucking FF game
swordmaster - fedorafags
arcanist - black mage but better
spiritmaster - good
templar - paladinfags
dark knight - shit
vampire - okay
conjurer - too hard
wizard - new #1 caster class
charioteer - stick 4 weapons in me and grind xp with me senpai
fencer - pirate but worse
bishop - late scaling healer thats still shit conpared to spiritmaster
astrologian - garbage
catmancer - dumb
hawkeye - okay
patissier - only good new job in bravely second
exorcist - why
guardian - shit
kaiser - for narcissists
yokai - shit job, shittier 3ds game
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>>335901737
probably the kaiser fight where you need to do something or the game goes to prologue
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>>335901969
the boss fight itself or all of the sin fights after it? boss fight was easy as fuck thanks to Ringabel support, and the sin fights were actually quite challenging even in the end game (that is before the 100% grind). the only annoying thing about the sin fights was finding where the fuck they were
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>>335901421
Not really but "eat ur hamburgers apollo" is fucking retarded
No because it's a re-release
No because the idea wasn't to remove or alter offensive content.
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>>335901546
Ignoring all the censorship shitposting here's my review so far, just got to chapter 4 (I think there's 5 chapters.)

>Story
Personally I'm enjoying it much more than BD. BD felt like it had one twist but then kept riding it way too hard where everyone was comically evil for little reason. Here characters have more depth to them for their motivations for being evil and side quests are much more interesting and fun, one was following along a murder mystery and another was being trapped in a caved in castle for days on end.
Tiz is much more likable now and not whiny, Edea feels to have grown a bit and not such a knucklehead, Yew is a scaredycat and kind of a book worm, and Magnolia is just okay but inoffensive.

>gameplay
Better than the first. Lots more QoL things added like being able to change encounter rate in the field, being able to save job set ups to favs, and the sound test generated money as you listen. Balance is much better with every job being somewhat useful and not as many crazy OP jobs. New gimmick, effects, and mechanics are all good. New dungeons and towns are really nice, slightly better than BD, reused dungeons are mainly relegated to side quests.

>graphics
Top notch as ever, everything still looks good, and it might just be me but the game feels like the performance is slightly better.

>music
Kind of meh. The returning stuff is good and some of the new music is good like the Kaiser theme, some town themes, the main theme, etc. The biggest flaw is that the special move themes are all super generic and forgettable but that's the only music I feel is "bad"

Overall I'd say 8/10. If you liked the first one except for the time loop shenanigans then you'll probably like this one too.
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>>335902125
>everyone telling you to use bravely second
>game keeps telling you NG+ is unlocked
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>>335901728
Atlus censors their games all the time, nigger, what are you on about?

>>335901972
>According to you guys we should just sit around and wait until we can't do anything anymore.
For the umpteenth time, censorship has been getting LIGHTER over time, and that's with people buying games. Your argument literally falls apart right there.

>>335901972
>and eating shit
Having fun with videogames is eating shit? Amazing. You post-millennials are hysterical.
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>>335901546
Game is fun. I was really keen to see how it all wrapped up.

I have to admit though, censorship or not, some of the sidequests conclusions felt rushed (as in the character would fall unconscious and wake up to the story of how it all went down) but most of them tied up nicely.

Also they made Alternis out to be a complete retard in his side quest, but awesome as part of the main story.

Combat is great, there is challenge and you can tweak a lot of setting to really suit your own style. the class system I am in love with as it gives so many choices and there are some pretty awesome ones.

There is a fucking demo just try it jesus asking /v/ is a pretty stupid idea desu but I tried to be honest.
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>>335902038
>red mage
Why are they always so shit in like every game.
It's not fucking fair.
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>>335902262
Yeah, because Persona and SMT games get censored all the time, no objectionable content there.

>#FE
And who is that being "supervised" by again?
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It fun, but the dialogue is campy as fuck compared to the first. I'm surprised noone has complained about it. And the old english is gone for the most part.
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>>335902262
>millennials as an insult

When will this meme end?
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>>335901972
>I-I told him he is eating shit hehe, surely he see's the error of his ways
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>>335902302
Anon, those were two different Alternises
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>censorship has been getting LIGHTER over time
>over time
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>>335902397
His list is rather shitposty, Red mage is really good in this series for all the BP abilities it has. On its own it's a decent Jack of all trades filler but it becomes super good when combo'd with other jobs.
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>>335896247
>this isn't even censored.
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>>335902465
>>335902262
There are people who liked Mass Effect 3's endings too, does that make them okay?
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>>335902465
>surely he see's the error of his ways

That wasn't my point. If a guy is defending censorship there's no saving him. I don't even come to censorship threads that often anymore because there's just too many false flaggers pretending to be against or pro-censorship. Same shit with platform wars.
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>>335902427
>Persona and SMT games get censored all the time,
Indeed. Hitler's appearance, a lot of changed lines in the Persona games, demon designs being changed throughout the series to be less "lewd", black people being changed to white people, etc.

But hey, keep suck Atlus's censorship loving cock.
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Am I the only one who zooms in at her panties whenever I see the photo ?
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>>335902572
How does that have anything to do with what >>335902262 posted?

I see, I'm being baited. Bye for now.
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>>335901940
How is it ad hom when you literally derive enjoyment from costumes = playing barbie. Literally nothing affected the enjoyment of the gameplay, which is the contention. Unlike framerates, costumes actually do not affect gameplay.

And you're probably a storyfag to boot LMAO
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is there a build where you can keep an enemy's BP to at least -1 so you can lock them from ever doing anything?
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>>335902695
>If it's fanservice

It does not affect the gameplay or story

>If it's story

It does not affect the gameplay!

>If it's gameplay

It was not important, and the game is even better without!
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>>335902467
Actually yeah its coming back to me now. EU here so its been a while since I played.

Retard Alternis is side quest Alternis and Ringabel is the one who saves our asses yeah?
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The story in the original Bravely was garbage. The game just had beautiful enviorments and music.

Red Mage serves its niche in this game as an early game power house.

Why no traditional blu?
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>>335902450
>nips no longer appropriating minority cultures
Fucking finally. Xenophobic shitlords
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>>335902839
blue is vampire in this game i think
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>>335902482
You don't gotta explain anything to me anon, I've played Bravely Default, and am playing Second right this moment.
Basically the only value it has is Turn Tables + Utsusemi.

Not to mention you get White Mage literally two sidequests later so it has no value as an early-game healer (because Bishop is locked to percentage heals, making it better as a secondary job for low-MND classes).

It's not a jack of all trades, but it's definitely a master of none. This is the case for like every instance of Red Mage in every game ever.
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>>335902602
Persona 1 and 2 were well over a decade ago, and the Hitler thing was due to CERO being Australia-tier.

I can still fuse this asshole in almost every SMT game.
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>>335902824
Yeah.
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>>335902806
We AREA talking about games after all, kid, not fucking movies. Games exist to be played FIRST, not tell stories
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>>335902839
Vampire was the traditional blue mage but got replaced by catmancer because vampire was rather OP and needed a nerf and also because Lord Derosso is currently trapped for all eternity keeping Oroboros at bay.
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>>335902957
>Playing games sorely for gameplay

You don't need to play videogames if your only need is gameplay you know
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>>335902302
Nikolai the best
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>>335902925
And? I can still have sex wit hand marry my sister in any FE game with marriage as an option. What's your point? Companies sometimes censor shit, and sometimes don't.
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>>335902941
Did you mean to quote >>335901728

And oh look, another T-rated Atlus game with fanservicey designs. Can't wait for the censorship patch!
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>>335900712
>>335901354
I'm interested in seeing what exactly got removed. And not just hearsay
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>>335902968
>needed a nerf
>0 MP White Wind in Chapter 1
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The game is solid but it suffers from some bad design choices. I'll just talk about what i consider the bad shit. You have plenty of IGN reviews to fill you in the good stuff.

Personally speaking, what i found most boring were the so called "dungeon". They had nothing to do with being actual dungeons, they were goddamn labyrinths. Sure they can be fine for a while, but the whole game is just labyrinths over labyrinths and it gets dull and boring as fuck.

Another thing that i complain about a lot is the grinding because, well, it's easily exploitable. This can be either a good or a bad thing depending on how you take it. I didn't enjoy the fact that you could disable the spawn rate, go through a dungeon, and then just farm before the boss fight with the nearby save-buddy.

The overworld is kinda boring and there's nothing going for it, no secret areas, no interesdting items, no nothing. There is no incentive to exploring since all the items that you can find are just common shit you can buy in stores for the most part. Plus when you disable encounters it becomes just trivial moving from city to city, expecially when teleportation is a thing.

The battling system is hella fun, but, again, you can easily exploit it and make tough boss fights last not even 5 minutes. The "summon friend" thing can easily overpower the enemy boss if you get some overpowered summons. The special moves debuffs and buff chaining is basically what makes the boss fights so easy. Once i understood what to do, I stopped struggling (i played on hard). The challenge was brought down to 0.

It's a good game, but you can easily get bored and the challenge can be lackluster. That said, solid story, amazing protagonists, enjoyable class system and many other things will keep your interest going. Personally speaking, it's a solid 7\10.
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>>335903101
literally only in 4 and in Fates, and Fates is NBR
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>>335895113

+some gameplay improvements
+more jobs
+less loops

-shittier story
-characters get reduced to a single trait
-worse music
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>>335895327
That real fuckin' but people dont play it for that shit. Its the game mechanics and boss fights. So how are those. Oh wait. You never even played it.
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>>335902467
I KNEW IT. YOU MEET HIM EARLIER AND HE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT IT. I WAS REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
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>>335903060
What sort of dank environments can I explore in a fucking board game?

Vidya is for living vicariously. I don't need a story to tell me who I am or what to do. Just a nice environment and some interesting abilities to aspire to. Board games are as bad as VNs, it's just the opposite side of the coin.
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>>335895324

Just use the uncensor patch

>not hacking your 3ds

>>335895327
Shitty meme, all that changes is that you dont have to replay every sidequest twice. The bad endings on sidequests weren't choice related, you would always get a bad ending on the first try. That and the difference in endings was minimal so you'd have to replay every quest 4 times to get 30 seconds difference
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>>335903178
You're right, can't do it in Awakening because you have no sister. The point otherwise stands, other FE games don't have marriage as an option.
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>but censorship was worse in the 90s!
Yea, it was but it got better. There was a period of time where games weren't getting censored and now we're heading back to 90s level censorship. I don't understand why that's okay. Just because I was a dumb kid who accepted it back then doesn't mean I need to be a dumb adult who accepts it now.
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>>335902910
Revenge is nice with counter/tank classes, and revival and MP free in a pinch both do great for low health builds.
It has nice uses.
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>yew during the first bathhouse scene
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>What sort of dank environments can I explore in a fucking board game?
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>>335903376
>going to a nerd convention
No fucking thanks. Go pick up another free deodorant while you're there.
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>>335903278
>I don't need a story to tell me who I am or what to do

You don't need to doesn't necessarily translate to others. That's why games have stories.
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>Agnes has been kidnapped, and only Yew have the power to save her

is this satire?
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>>335903375
>mfw girls bath is literally right above the guys'
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>>335903330
>There was a period of time where games weren't getting censored
No there wasn't. This is a sure fire way to mark an underaged fag who is pretending they aren't.
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>>335903330
>There was a period of time where games weren't getting censored
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When, I'd love to see this.
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>when you tell your friend you are enjoying Bravely Second and he starts shouting "CENSORSHIP"
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/725006545197666304
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>>335902910
access to black magic and white magic while also being able to spellcraft is pretty good early game. i actually didnt go for the white mage because i thought my red mage was pulling mad support. unfortunatly i pretty soon after got gay cake man job and that outclasses pretty much everything for support

>use items on whole parties
>debuff entire enemy team in 1 BP
>cast reraise on entire team in 1BP

thank god end game bosses tend to have moves that cancel support effect otherwise they may have been way too easy
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>>335903523
>"Don't peek, boys, teehee"
>They peek climb a fucking wall to peek on you

Adachi was right
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>>335903101
Except I can't remember the last time Atlus censored shit besides #FE which is being forced by NoA, whereas NoA thinks that a bit of cleavage in a T-rated game is going to get an M rating.
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>>335901354

You get to choose who to side with in sidequests (which have no influence on the overall plot).

You would get bad endings on those sidequests no matter what. No actual game ending got removed
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>>335903745
Fuck off Adachi, that's my fetish.
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>>335903523

>you cant switch party leader to female to watch the girls side
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>>335903792
Diana got censored in SMTIV. Persona 4 had a number of lines that were very different from their Japanese counterparts.
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How are the sidequests in Second? I always get boring ones in RPG but Default had god tier ones that felt like they were part of the main story constantly to me. Best one being Thief to Time Mage quest. A shame Time Mage is shit.
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>>335903745
>tfw yoko split into two different forms just to spy on your whole party naked.
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Porbably my favorite boss fight so far, because it tickled my metal slug and wedge and biggs nostalgia
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Holy fucking shit I'm so tired of hearing about censorship already
Think for a second if this /v/ - Video Games board maybe has people in it that don't want some drooling retarded screaming in their face every time they try to form a thought.
You people aren't important enough to derail every fucking thread and neither is your epic crusade, which you aren't even taking outside of anonymous shitposts you fucking hypocrites
can't you just shit up s4s or r9k instead
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>>335903684
>When you know a guy who tells you he bought Bravery Censored when you can get an uncensored copy for free on the internet
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>>335903792
DT2

>>335902262
>censorship has been getting LIGHTER over time
>since the start of this generation NoA have been getting worse and worse
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We'll never win the censorship war
Autists will get their mommies to buy the censored games no matter what
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>>335904004
See >>335902220
Each side quest is following along two returning characters for what's happening in their story and then solving their conflict.
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>>335904004
side quest writing is interesting but the quests themselves are just kinda eh
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>>335904323
>>since the start of this generation NoA have been getting worse and worse
They really, really haven't. But keep lying to yourself. I'm sure you are doing a fine job of fooling you.
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>>335904237
>I bought a game I like.
>"Yeah, well I stole it for free!"
>Okay.
Man you sure showed... Nobody...
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>>335902220
>talking about censorship is shitposting
No good Sir. Defending censorship is shitposting.
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>>335904475
Just look at Bravely Default versus Bravely Second, or Fire Emblem Awakening versus Fire Emblem Fates.
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>>335899767
Censorship actually has gotten way worse. I've been playing since the 80s and by now we thought we wouldn't have censorship still in 2016. I mean ff7 will be even more censored than the original version. Ff was censored in the gba versions.
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>>335902262
>Atlus censors their games all the time
Really? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>335904554
>Supporting censored games

You sure showed me bud, i'm at loss here
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>>335904767
>buying games you enjoy

what a retard, right?
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>>335904861
>Supporting bad business practices

Of course bud
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>>335902220
> top notch graphics
> reused bd assets which reused ff3 assets
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>>335904924
>bad business practice
>people buy it anyway

wheres the bad practice?
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>>335904323
Touche, although to be fair it was only 4 CGs out of a huge number and I could see them actually having to alter those to avoid AO. Still much, much better than any NoA hackjob

>Etrian Odyssey's artist is literally a loli porn artist
>Atlus couldn't give any less of a fuck
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>>335905067
What am I looking at here?
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>>335905165
edea's bath towel costume.
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>>335904924

He can buy it so it supports more games for me to pirate and play better versions off
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>>335904932
The art is very pretty anon.
Just because it's not Crysis on a technical level, the game is still beautiful because of good art direction.
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>>335905068
>If people buy it that means it's good

Do you also buy a new iphone every year because it's "good" business practice?
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>>335905449
good for bussiness, which is what he was arguing
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>>335905323
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>>335904475
>But keep lying to yourself.
You should probably take your own advice.
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>>335902302

NO NIKOLAI

NO BUY
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>>335901421
1)Not really. Aside from changing the general location and the names, It's still basically the same game. While I personally would have preferred the original Japanese setting, It really doesn't bother me too much.

2) The games we got were basically remakes/remasters of the original Pocket Monsters RED/GREEN games, using the Pocket Monsters BLUE engine. Calling them censored is like saying SMT3 was censored just because we got the Maniax Edition version as our base game, rather than just getting the original release.

3) The real issue is that we didn't even get the "Real" Super Mario Bros. 2 (Known as SMB: The Lost Levels in the West) until much later. But yeah, I wouldnt call the game we got "censorship". I would call it a fucking copout.
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So what did you guys pick as the correct "moral" choice for all of the side quests?
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>>335904139

You forgot to mention the music in that fight as well
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>>335907394
https://youtu.be/j4mRvrdjPuQ
Theres certainly some good tracks in BS, people are a bit too quick to write off the all the new music.
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>>335907998
i will certainly say there are some fantastic tracks in BS, but overall it there isnt as many new great songs as BD had.

my personal favorite :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JsyQ0EMwr8
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