>1. One Piece: Burning Blood (PS4) – 35,496
>2. One Piece: Burning Blood (PS Vita) – 32,682
>3. Yo-kai Sangokushi (3DS) – 28,758 (430,239)
>4. Bullet Girls 2 (PS Vita) – 17,224
>5. Star Fox Zero/Star Fox Guard Double Pack (Wii U) – 17,114
"I guess people don't like Star Fox anymore, time to put this series to rest like F-Zero." - Miyamoto
he's not wrong you know
Good, we don't need a 4th version of SF64 for the NX
>>335891750
>Bullet Girls 2 beat SF0
My sides.
>>335891750
Plus 8000 from the stand alone version. But, yes it did bad. 30% sell-through and word of mouth isn't going to help.
rip videogames
it even took people three days to get bored of the new darksouls
Man, Burning Blood looks like shit, I can't believe its selling. I wish we'd get a proper One Piece fighter.
>Miyamoto please give us a good Starfox game! Just like SF64 but with a new plot and more levels but keep the gameplay the same
>"okay I can do that! I'll just reuse the Sf64 story and levels but OH! They need new gamepray! I'll had some spiffy motion controls to it! And I won't let them turn it off either!"
>Miyamoto what the fuck is this?!
>oh sorry, guess you don't want Starfox anymore, I'll just can it and go back to ripping the soul out of paper mario
>fans bitch and plead for new game is series
>get it
>they bitch, complain and cry abuot it
>game sells like this
you think you do, but you don't. It's true and it will always be true. Everytime any game panders to fans it dies. This is why devs are smart to tell players to shutup. No one will ever be happey anyway.
Is 17k units sold good or bad? Is it known how much was expected? Are these numbers Japan only?
>>335891750
How is a 5th place in Japan and a 6th place in UK bad?
Does this gook ever consider that he made a bad game and not that people dont want Star Fox?
Zero just makes me frustrated because it desperately wants to be something else, like Assault, but sticks too much to the familiar that it just becomes 64 1.5. I mean, 64 was basically SNES 2.0, but it did everything right, it took everyone's expectations and did it one better. Zero, by comparison, just treads on the all too familiar ground without having that same advancement SNES to 64 had. And this is with two generations in between 64 and Zero.
>>335892127
Any place that isn't 1st, is last
>>335892147
>it desperately wants to be something else
The game isn't alive you fucking retard.
>>335892121
Except we wanted a good game.
>>335891750
Look at that evil jewgook face, you can see he is willing to destroy Nintendo legacy before he goes to the grave.
>>335892127
Even as someone who will probably buy the game, 17K on the debut week is pitiful.
>>335892127
Hashtag FE opened with 23k sales in its opening week in comparison
>>335892127
It had no competition and still sold like shit.
>>335892231
Isn't Dylan Cuthbert Miyamotos son in law?
>>335892231
He's not wrong. He should definitely come back though and show Miyamoto how its really done.
>>335892323
Yes
>>335892397
>>335892598
Ew, I change my mind
>>335892121
>Fans bitch and plead for another Star Fox 64
>Nintendo gives them another Star Fox 64
>Fans bitch and complain that it isn't Star Fox 64
Star Fox 64 fans are the cancer of the Star Fox fanbase. The original game is still the best and is the game that inspired your precious Star Fox 64.
>>335892231
>this baka gaijin thinks he knows how to make video games
>>335891750
its okay miyamoto-san!
everything will work out in the end!
just think back to the great things that nintendo has already accomplished!
>>335892680
Judging by the sales, 64 fans are the Star Fox fanbase.
>im proud of those units
Fuck ninteno and their inability to evolve
>implying anyone ever liked Star Fox
Come off it already. Just stop.
It had a single good game. It has more cancelled games than not. Anyone claiming Star Fox fanaticism are full of shit nostalgia yankers.
>>335891750
Good. If we were just going to get another SF64 then I'd just play that, for fuck's sake.
>>335891750
Why not show the sales of the game without guard?
>that corneria city level
Did they think it would be a good idea to copy the dialogue from the N64 version? We get it, Star Fox is back, you don't need to do this every time a game comes out. You're old, we get it.
>>335891750
>forced gamepad usage
>voices only through gamepad
>gyro
>gamepad gimmick bonanza
>less content than 64
>a lot less on rails section, the shit people liked about 64
>few bosses
>they're all in all-range mode
>alternate paths lead to little more than rehashed levels and short 2 minute levels
>gyrowing
>All of Zoness
>no multiplayer
I'm not surprised at all.
>>335891750
>I guess people don't like Nintendo anymore, time to put this company to rest.
fixed
One piece burning blood looks fun as fuck.
Starcuck Zero is not fun.
>>335893295
8,000
>>335891750
>5. Star Fox Zero/Star Fox Guard Double Pack (Wii U) – 17,114
Damn, that's worse than #FE, flopper than flop.
>>335893435
>>no multiplayer
The co-op at least makes the game somewhat bearable, but they really dropped the ball with no vs multiplayer
>>335891750
Is that considered bad? How much budget could this game really have had? And for a dead system too? What fucking, numbers does Nintendo even expect for Wii U games?
>>335891816
>make a shit game
>only people buying it are diehard nintendrones
wow
>>335895281
The Vita sold less than the Wii U and had a game sell higher on it.
kek
>>335897504
Sounds like typical Nintendo
>>335895281
Spratoon sold millions
>>335893557
>no lucci
Yeah my ass is fun
>>335892125
Japan only and those numbers are absolutely awful.
>>335892020
Is there a single nintendo ip that hasn't been raped yet? I cant think of any from the top of my head.
>>335899292
Kirby
>>335899631
it peaked with the NES game and the NES game remake. every single other game has been based 90% on said game. The series hasn't evlvoled, at all, which is a double edged sword.
>>335891750
In the japs defense, it's not very good
I must get this game.
This is why I'm buying Federation Force, and all you should, too. It doesn't matter if the game is a spinoff or plain shit, if it has poor sales Nintendo will take it as a sign to lay the series to rest.
>>335900080
What was the last nintendo game where you could say with confidence that ''It's great'' ?
Every single wii u first party game has been ''Fine'', not much more.I am the guy who asked you like half a year ago where you have been because you haven't posted in a while, cause ive been seeing you since 2012. You told me you got caught up with work. How's life in 2016?
Are the extra 8000 standalone version added too?
[WIU] Star Fox Zero + Star Fox Guard Double Pack <Star Fox Zero \ Star Fox Guard> <STG> (Nintendo) {2016.04.21} (¥6.500) - 17.063 / NEW <20-40%>
>20-40%
Oh, man! A Nintendo hate thread where everyone lies and says their games are bad despite not having ever played them! My favorite! Glad we have one of these every 10 minutes!
Burning Blood can be Platinumed in 12 hours
Star Fox Zero can be 100% in 4 hours
Therefore, One Piece Burning Blood is 3x greater than Star Fox
>>335900387
This is some seriously terrible sell-through. Star Fox Zero Sales confirmed.
>>335900268
Pretty much anything on the WiiU. 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, NSMBU (and Luigi U with it), W101, Smash 4, Woolly World, Mario Maker, any M&L RPG, FE Fates.
Is that enough?
>>335900479
neo-nintendo is shit, deal with it.
The biggest nintendo haters, are former nintendo fans.
Peace.
>>335900479
Shut the fuck up and go make another PS4 is shit thread then, Cuck boy.
meimoto-san doesnt give a fuck about starfox
80% of the games in the serie have been remakes of 64
>>335900650
Maybe if they're ignoring the 3DS.
>>335900656
I don't make hate threads because I don't participate in console wars bullshit. I own a PS4, Vita, 3ds, Wii U, and a pretty high end PC.
>>335899951
Current Kirby game is getting pretty top rated, think it may be one of the few exceptions.
>>335900627
lol
>>335900479
>>335900627
>3D World
>One challenging stage - the game
no
it was Just Fine.
>Mario Kart 8
Even in 200cc, it's still slower than mk64 and lacks any gameplay depth, just like every single modern nintendo game. But yeah, the content is a LOT. Which i do admit makes it the best overall mario kart game.
>Tropical Freeze
Just like returns, a very good game yeah. Though i played it only for 2-3 hours at a friends house.
>Pikmin 3
The only time i played pikmin, was at launch with the gamecube. I brought it back the same day and got melee instead. It is not for everyone, but my opinion is biased because i switched out pikmin with arguably the very best video game of all time.
>NSMBU
After nsmb, nsbmwii and the abysmal nsmb2 on the 3ds, i had enough, didn't even play it. I know what i was going to play anyway.
>W101
Never played it, looks good.
>Woolly World
no
>Mario Maker
Ok, this one is great. you got me with this one.
>>335893435
Star Fox had multiplayer at some point?
>>335900268
On the WiiU alone, I would say these games are great
>Super Mario 3D World
>New Super Mario Bros U
>Bayonetta 2
>Yoshi Woolly World
>Splatoon
>Smash 4
>Mario Kart 8
>Super Mario Maker
>Pikmin 3
>The Wonderful 101
>Xenoblade X
And there's plenty more that are "fine". It's only in the past year, the quality has really gotten very filler-y
>Kirby Rainbow Curse
>Captain Toad
>Star Fox Zero
>Twilight Princess HD
>Pokken Tournament
Again this is just on WiiU, but there's this stigma that, apparently, Nintendo fans will buy up any old crap and play it as if it's the GOAT. Apparently not if the past year is anything to go by.
>>335900224
Fuck off amiibo shill.
>bullet girls 2 beats star fox game
so this is the power of nintendomination...
>>335900857
Current being this one? >>335900818
first time seeing it. Let me check.
>>335900818
And m8, no. If you arent a pokemon fan, your nintendo handheld will collect dust. I havent played mine, no i havent TOUCHED mine since december 2013, ever since i beat albw.
>>335900606
>Star Fox Zero can be 100% in 4 hours
That's not true at all, what are you on?
>>335901019
90% of it are garbage though.
>>335900960
>those responses for MK8, #D World, and Woolly World
Wow, what a load of shit. 8 has more depth than literally any other game in the series, and 200cc is easily the fastest and most difficult the series has ever been. You shouldn't lie just to mindlessly shit on Nintendo.
>>335901150
That's your opinion I guess..?
>>335900830
Then why the fuck are you here?
>>335891750
>Star Fox Zero Sales
>>335901067
>If you arent a pokemon fan, your nintendo handheld will collect dust. I havent played mine, no i havent TOUCHED mine since december 2013, ever since i beat albw.
Sounds like you should branch out more. 3DS has a lot more 3rd Party support and solid games as well besides the 1st Party.
>>335892598
What a mind numbingly awful game.
I saw the newest Dariusburst, a much better shmup, for sale the other day
It was only 24 dollars, but I thought it was too much for a game like this, so I didnt buy it
I would never in my life pay 40-60 dollars for a Star Fox game.
You have 15 dollar games like Severed being called shit for being 8 hours long, but for the 4 hour full priced Star fox, it's no issue, since you can just replay it again apparently? You can replay White Knight chronicles 3 times too, you can replay anything! Now 12 hours compete with 1200!
What a bunch of nonsense
>>335891750
His own fault for making the latest Star Fox into a gimmicky casual trash heap.
If that's how they were planning to go forward, then Star Fox is better off dead.
>>335901198
Yes, a non-nintendrone opinion, an objective one.
>>335901205
Sometimes when the retards throw shit at each other, you just keep walking. Other times, you stop and stand in awe at how pathetic they are. This is one of the latter times. You people lying JUST to shit on a company that will never care how you feel is hilarious and sad all at once.
>>335901320
Actually, it controls the best in the series, and is more challenging than 64 in pretty much any regard except controls. But you wouldn't know that because you're a /v/-parroting monkey.
I'm out. I have games to play.
>>335901348
On you go, get it all out anon.
>>335901067
ts not released in Europe or the US yet but some others in the Kirby thread are giving it stellar reviews. That and the fact the new developer seemingly added some lore to it as well as not just cut and pasting like Starfox Zero is making lots, myself included, rather hyped.
Plus who doesn't like a mecha robot to ride in?
>>335901320
>Gimmicky
The controls are fucking fantastic, I literally can't fault them. Every problem I've seen with rail shooters and SF in general is completely fixed here.
The problem is the rail levels are in short supply and the game just isn't very content heavy. It's laughably light. Like, Splatoon at launch light.
why are sales so bad in japan for games in gneral. arent they suppose to be big gamers?
>>335901418
>it controls the best in the series
>>335901174
No, it hasn't. go play mk64 at 150cc, try to take a turn while keep pressing the A button. You will slip. The game expects that you can drive/drift by the time you reach 150cc. It's a lot less forgiving than mk8. It expects something from the player. And doesnt leave 80% of it in the hands of RNG (items). It provides challenge, and in turn, satisfaction. Which modern nintendo games don't provide.
That's how i know you're underage.
I'm the biggest nintendrone and starfox fan you can meet, but it deserved it.
It's obvious an attempt to fill the Wii U library gap and never cared enough to make it a great game. The next Starfox should have been an epic game with amazing graphics, full of content and not experimental controls.
Not a 64 reskin.
>>335901434
>>335901516
Sure shill.
>>335901285
yeah, a visual novel. You got me m8. Going to play my 3ds again. thanks.
>>335901320
that's the directiomn they took with pretty much every first party ip though. Overcasualized trash. with your logic, they should stop making games altogether.
>>335901418
>more difficult than 64
Not at all. They're about the same once you get past the awful controls.
>LE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT MULTIPLAYER :^)
>LE PEOPLE WANTED SHITTY CONTROLLERS INSTEAD XD
>>335900224
>buy shitty games to appease incompetent company
If Nintendo is too dumb to realize that [game-X] doesn't sell poorly because people don't like [game-X] anymore, but because of their shitty execution of [game-X], then that's on them. As much as I love the past golden days of Metroid, Star Fox, etc., I refuse to let myself be held hostage by their incompetence, vis a vis "Buy our shitty, gimmicky games or we'll discontinue them and blame you." If they want to butcher all their classic IPs and then turn around and blame consumers when they don't want to buy them, then so be it...let it all burn and I'll move onto something else, and just appreciate the past good times from Nintendo.
>>335901526
Japan cares more about mobile now.
If you are a real Nintendo fan, you will buy this game to support Nintendo make better games
/thread
>>335901573
>It's obvious an attempt to fill the Wii U library gap and never cared enough to make it a great game
Basically this
>>335901735
If you are a real Nintendo fan you'll let Star Fox die until a better one is made.
>>335901586
Why use a fake score? Not like the actual one is good anyway.
>>335901647
>If Nintendo is too dumb to realize that [game-X] doesn't sell poorly because people don't like [game-X] anymore, but because of their shitty execution of [game-X],
but they don't realize this. they simply dont.
>>335901808
Lol when did it drop 3 points?
>>335901613
Who said Ace Attorney is the only big 3rd Party game? Monster Hunter, SMT, and others are also on the system. But you rather not research what's out there.
Where is this sudden notion that all their games are purely for casuals? Is DKCR and Tropical Freeze not a challenge with it's K Levels? Is W101 not a thing they helped paid the bills for and not have tons of action game depth? Is Kid Icarus Uprising on 9.0 not an option you pick?
>>335901529
>>335901640
>the best they can come up with is "nuh uh!"
As someone who played the game, I can confirm the controls are far better. Going back to 54 and the original feels really stiff now.
But you'll just call me a nintendrone or something like that and continue shitposting.
>>335901647
>If Nintendo is too dumb to realize that [game-X] doesn't sell poorly because people don't like [game-X] anymore, but because of their shitty execution of [game-X], then that's on them.
Anon, NO company is smart enough to catch on to this, let alone a Japanese video game developer.
>>335901808
it dropped to 69?
kek
>>335901808
>Gamers use the gamepad
Found the problem
>>335901315
Star fox is not a shmup, never was, shitposter-kun
F-Zero is dead because the Sega team that made the one that people really, really liked no longer fucking exists.
>>335901808
>69
Maybe Nintendo should acually listen next time
>>335901964
>>335901847
Yeah, that's a fair point, but what's your alternative? Keep perpetually appeasing shitty games, that will probably get increasingly shitter in the future thanks to said appeasement? No, I'd rather just not buy and let it all burn down right now, right away, than to appease their incompetence and watch it burn slowly and painfully.
>>335901808
>user score is higher than shithead critic score
>some critics even mentioned they didn't even finish the game
Good to see the anti-Nintendo bias is still going strong
>>335902315
How about you just buy what you like and don't buy what you don't like?
>>335902327
>Anti-Nintendo bias
>On /v/
>>335902327
>nintendrone overrated their garbage like usual
You should know by reading this thread alone.
>>335902410
kyoko looks like elsa jean.
>>335902327
>Drones voting it higher because "Nintendo can do no wrong!"
I bought and played it, it's not a good game.
>>335902452
They always do. Ask about any 3ds game, they will tell you how it's the best game ever. Then you play it and it's trash
Remember Resident Evil Revelations "the best game since RE4"? Got ported to PC and suddenly everyone found out how garbage it was
>>335902493
It's not a bad game either. It's a middle ground game. I feel it wouldn't get as much flak if it had a lower price point, though you can get it for 10$ off digitally.
Whose bright idea was it to map tilting/ barrel rolling to the right stick? It makes it very annoying to do when boosting.
>>335902591
What's wrong with Revelations? Was a lot better then RE6 and was good enough to get a direct sequel with Revelations 2.
>>335902493
I highly doubt that. Care to post your file and a timestamp?
>>335902327
>Have a month to finish a game and get to grips with its controls so you can inform people of what they'll get should they take the time to learn the game (2 hours maybe?)
>Every review is "bro this game is just too confusing, don't bother"
End to reviews when?
>Oh and by the way, you don't want a good Star Fox game. You think you do, but you don't.
>>335902493
>>335902452
And the anti-nintendo drones all gave it a 0/10. Yet it still has a good user score. Even through the flames, the truth pulls through.
>>335902735
I got a good SF game. It's called "star Fox Zero". Check it out some time.
>>335897504
He is trully too old for this shit.
He doesn't understand modern video games.
He's just a whinny old fart full of too much self estim.
He was a real creator, but sadly not anymore.
So do you think Nintendo will actually listen and fix their mistakes, or just bury this series for another decade?
>>335901735
No, if you were a real fan you'd be criticizing Nintendo for being so blind and oblivious to the gaming market. There's so many things to discuss about Nintendo how bad they've been fucking up over the last decade but I'll only touch up on two points for now.
Nintendo still seems to be trying to reaching out to the family audience which consists of the parents and 2 siblings at age 8-10. No family is like that first of all, they need to get that fake image out of their heads and marketing. Even little kids don't want to play wiiU, they'd rather play literally any other console over wiiU.
The other point is that Nintendo seems to love gimmicks. They need to stop messing around with the dumb gimmicks and make a serious console for once. If your consoles controller costs more than the console itself, there's obviously something wrong. They got lucky with the wii and it's motion control innovation but if you look back on it the wii really wasn't that great at all. Everyone had a wii for sure, but how many people bought more than 5 games for it? The average person definitely did not.
I could go on for hours about the problems plaguing Nintendo and how they just turn a blind eye to them but I'm getting kinda tired/hungry. I really want Nintendo to come back hard and strong but they just won't stop with their weird ways of doing things. Apparently they have a new system coming out less than a year away and guess what, they're being all hush about it. Seriously, who is in charge of their marketing campaign?
Would it be SO horrible if Miyamoto was to die?
I mean, he did great things but he stopped being good long long ago. He's literally more of a hindrance to videogames nowadays.
>>335902596
Agreed. It could have been good, but it has too many flaws to make it that.
>>335902703
Why is it when someone says a Nintendo game is bad, one of you chucklefucks say "You haven't played it!"?
It isn't set up since I took it to a friend's house, so I hope this suffices. First Print and all.
>>335903232
He should just retire already
>>335903185
>The other point is that Nintendo seems to love gimmicks. They need to stop messing around with the dumb gimmicks and make a serious console for once.
That worked well for the GameCube amirite?
Pikmin 3 had a fairly short story and now so does Star Fox but more noticeably short. Shiggy's definitely out of touch in this aspect. But it's not him alone, he's probably influencing his lowers to do procedures and shit in a similar manner to him (hopefully not).
>>335903257
And I just noticed I wrote the wrong date. I need to wake up a bit.
>>335903232
I know /v/ would be autistic enough to send a card to nintendo.
>>335903185
>Even little kids don't want to play wiiU, they'd rather play literally any other console over wiiU.
Literally stopped reading there, because this is entering
>[citation needed]
territory.
>>335903185
I'm not that person and while I do agree they have certain things they do need to improve on, not every single fucking thing they do is the end of the world.
>>335903232
He just needs to have more faith in the younger developers more.
>>335903232
God lord no. Imagine the fucking funeral on /v/.
Just let him retire.
>>335903086
Nintendo will NEVER listen to their fanbase. They KNOW, not us. Stuborness has no limit and they shown us more than once.
Come on anon...
>>335891750
>nintendo will go full software/mobile in your life time
feels good mang
>>335903415
He will never retire. His death is the only way he will leave.
>>335891750
A couple of vita games selling more than a new and shiny Wii U game. Man, Nintendo really is dead.
Japan has never liked Star Fox, which is likely a major reason Nintendo has given it the second-tier treatment.
>>335892231
>attrack furries
Seems like classic N.
>>335903416
>Nintendo will NEVER listen to their fanbase.
Dropped friend codes finally for the Wii U, fixed the tutorial issues people complained about for M&L DT had for M&L PJ, held a Ballot for Smash Bros for people to vote for a character they wanted, etc.
They can listen.
>>335903441
sleep snug, smug
>>335903382
I'm talking about my own experiences but let's be real. Go ask any kid what they're favorite console is and a large... LARGE majority will say either ps4 or Xbox one. Since my job had me work at a summer camp last year for a week, I asked. Only 3 I believe said wiiu in a group of nearly 50 kids. As for my personal experience at home, whenever kids come over and want to play, they completely ignore the wiiu. They'd actually rather play on my pc or Xbox instead.
I wish Miyamoto died instead of Iwata
>>335901526
The console market in Japan is dying, console games sales are way down on what they used to be. The main argument is that mobile is killing it, but I don't think that's the only reason and there's a whole bunch of secondary reasons that don't get talked about much (economic troubles leading to less disposable income, Nintendo struggling, fewer Japanese-oriented titles as development has moved west etc).
>>335903648
This. My brothers were the same way. All they want to play is PS4. One of them never used his 3DS anymore and only plays on PC, mostly CSGO. At least I got a hackable 3DS out of that.
>>335903408
It seems that the things they do wrong outweigh the things they do right. It's been happening in front of us for many many years. When people here Nintendo, they don't think of that glorious company it used to be. Nintendo needs to step shit up a ton. A Nintendo console is like that extra console you own just to play those 2 or 3 games being released on it. Then you let it collect dust months on end before even thinking about turning it on. Since the wiiU was a failure, I can only pray that the NX isn't some "extra" console. By extra console, I mean a console that can't hold its own. You will basically be forced to buy another console or game on pc if you are an avid gamer.
>>335901529
>>335903889
So true. Almost everyone in my family has a wiiU or 3ds and they haven't used them in years. I'm actually going to hack a wiiU or two since I'm sure the firmware hasn't been updated on them in years. Also have cfw on a 3ds. Pretty cool though there weren't many games I wanted to play besides Pokémon.
>>335898543
Just play Cheetahmen 2, it's the same thing.
>>335897652
Vita is alive and well in Japan which is weird considering how dead it is in the U.S.
>>335904067
Nintendo were basically right that they couldn't compete with Sony/MS for 3rd parties. Nintendo were wrong to believe that this wouldn't lead long-term death spiral as they become steadily more niche, especially since their first-party titles became more niche and specialised and out of touch with the broader games market.
It's really hard to figure out where Nintendo should go from here.
Jap companies are notorious for letting their leaders stay until they die of old age.
After Miyamoto dies, the 50 year old who was an intern since the 80s can finally atep up.
This happens in EVERY business in Japan.
Sega finally has a new CEO that believes in Yakuza again.
>>335892307
#FE also had more of a budget.
>>335903579
>Censorship
>Region lock
>OUT-THE-FUCKING-DATED hardware
>Gimmicks over gimmicks over gimmicks
>LITTERALLY NO GAMES for 2016 on Wii U
>Mario rehash, Zelda rehash
>Mario remake, Zelda remake
>>335891750
>Herro, Unemproyment Office? Aye neeto an atarashi joboru
>>335904435
The Vita is the last refuge of niche low-budget Japanese titles.
>>335903579
Nintendo just does everything 5-10 years too late. The exception is fucking toys-to-life and F2P shit.
So we all agree that this shit can be fixed with Nintendo doing what SE are doing with FFXV and allowing fan feedback to influence development?
I mean, most teams are clearly out of touch. It's a miracle XBCX and Splatoon ended up as good as they did. If this shit were caught by fans early (as opposed to 9 months before release) then it could have been fixed.
I love how the biggest point of whining is the controls. I thought gamers were hardcore elite masters who could adapt to anything. I'm casual as fuck and I got used to the controls in ten minutes. It's like listening to PC and FPS players throwing a fit over a game not using a keyboard and mouse.
>>335904589
Not every business. Square Enix fired their former CEO for incompetence.
>>335904530
Hmm, that's a good question. If they were to make a new console, they would need to do a complete overhaul. In the current state they are in, Nintendo is considered that other console with Mario and Zelda games. They should make a serious console with a large variety of games. Bring back old ips and make them better, fresh. Make tons of new ips to bring in more people. If they can't do it , then they should just release games on all platforms(which actually has a good chance of happening mobile wise). They can also just cut out the console and work on handheld/probability.
Either way, Nintendo is pretty fucked atm. If the NX is truly coming out next March, we all know how sales are going to go.
>>335903441
sleep snug, smug
>>335905106
>Bring back old ips and make them better, fresh. Make tons of new ips to bring in more people.
But they already do both of these things. They brought back old series like Punch Out, Kid Icarus, etc. They make new series like Splatoon, W101, Codename Steam, etc.
>>335904941
Koei Tecmo is adopting the FFXV approach for Ni-Oh too. Turns out that letting the global audience playtest for you can be a good idea.
>>335891816
I know /v/ hates youtube and stuff but their retarded nintendo creator shit really costs them alot of free advertisement on youtube and twitch.
>>335904667
Really?
>>335905106
They need new IPs and new IPs that don't just appeal to existing fans or rely on nostalgia, especially western gamers. They need to acknowledge they're in the same market as Sony, Microsoft, EA, Activision and every other big games publisher and stop believing they're a special snowflake.
Either that, or just dump the power war entirely and create a console for <$100 ala the Vita TV and be done with it. Mario/Zelda box for $100 is an easier sell than $300. The Vita TV bombing had more to do with the Vita having nothing anyone wanted to play than it being an inherently bad idea.
>>335905081
He nearly ran the company into the ground. They'll tolerate most things, but not destruction of the company.
>>335905287
Nintendo more than anyone could do with this. Like monthly Direct updates or some shit, showing what they're doing, then having feedback forms and shit
>>335905013
Lol, I usually tell people that gamers can adapt. There's no reason to bitch about controllers or controls if you're a gamer. I'm sure people didn't expect the controls is all.
That fps player fit though, auto aim in fps games suck a lot. I guess I'm a new fag since I've only been gaming on pc for 3 4 years but I absolutely hate auto aim. For sure mouse and keyboard is more accurate but sometimes I just want to relax and use a controller and I can't due to auto aim bs.
>>335899292
Splatoonsurely not long now, though
>>335891750
>>5. Star Fox Zero/Star Fox Guard Double Pack (Wii U) – 17,114
Really not surprised. I've played SFZ and they ruined it by forcing the gamepad controls for everything, if it had traditional controls it might have been good. It also doesn't help that all of the alternate vehicles control even worse with the motion controls than the arwing and how the fuck is it that the walker in the unreleased beta of SF2 actually controls better than the shit walker in SFZ?
>>335899292
F-Zerobecause they never made another.
>>335905285
In all honesty, I wasn't motivated to pick either of those games up. I don't want to fall them kiddy or anything like that but I just didn't like the vibes they gave off. I don't have a ton of money drop on games so I'd rather buy worthwhile games if anything. Games I can maybe play and share experiences with friends.
>>335903415
I don't even care about the funeral on /v/. It'll probably the least bad.
The rest of the internet, in particular the, major for profit news sites and blogs will be a nightmare for at least a couple of months, and so will be major user generated content websites.
>>335905354
You know, that might not be a bad idea. Since streaming games seems to be the hot shit these days, they can have a streaming box and focus on games. Thing is, not everyone will be fond of that, especially those with shit Internet. Maybe in the future anon, basic Internet packages start at 50 mbps now so there will be no excuse in the future.
>>335904589
Miyamoto is not the CEO of the company, he's not even an executive for fucks sake.
The CEO is Kimishima, a banker that doesn't even like video games.
If Miyamoto dies there will be a lot of circlejerking on the internet, but Nintendo as a company won't see any major changes. If anything they might actually make good money in the fiscal quarter that Miyamoto dies.
>>335901542
>M64 doesn't rely on RNG more
Go back to the home Grandpa.
>>335905829
>In all honesty, I wasn't motivated to pick either of those games up. I don't want to fall them kiddy or anything like that but I just didn't like the vibes they gave off. I don't have a ton of money drop on games so I'd rather buy worthwhile games if anything. Games I can maybe play and share experiences with friends.
Do you mean the resurrected old IPs or the new ones they made?
Punch Out Wii has an insane amount of attention to detail, and plays insanely well. Probably one of their best revivals. Kid Icarus Uprising plays like a rail shooter in the sky sections, and a action//TPS game on the ground sections and has tons of content.
You can always get them on sale, or try them out from a demo or someone else. I mean you say you want them to bring new series, but when they do so, you are reluctant to try them as well.
W101 is a new Nintendo IP made by Platinum of all people, and had tons of intense action if you're into action games. And Splatoon is a clever fun TPS that feels very refreshing compared to a lot of other Nintendo games.
I mean surely you can try them out without having to purchase them, if you're really concerned. They did as you ask.
kinda hyped for this game tho
>>335897504
Good job you have successfully summarized the entirety of the Wii Us run.
>>335906487
I'm saying I personally was not interested at the time in these games enough to buy them. There were tons of other games coming out that were not on the wiiU. Like right now, for the same price as star fox zero, I could go out and buy dark souls 3. I'd much rather get dark souls.
>>335906663
Wait a minute what is this ?
I only have the first one and Shinuchi
>>335907162
So are you willing to try out W101 and Splatoon now, that they've been out for a while? I'm sure you can get W101 cheaper now. I mean their's no rush. You can wait till both drop in price further as well.
>>335907275
It's Youkai Sangokushi, a strategy game spinoff. It kind of sucks.
>>335907364
I played the wonderful 101 demo before. It's ok I guess. Thing is, I gave my wiiU away to my cousin for her daughters. It was only collecting dust as the last thing I played on it was windwaker HD. Didn't even get to try out Bayonetta 2 but I'm OK with that. I was starting to regret giving away the wiiU but now that legend of Zelda is probably not going to be a wiiU title anymore, I'm not as bothered.
Gotta love Nintendo hypocrisy
>game is shit, sells like shit
Oohh the public doesn't want it any more,
>console is shit, sells like shit
PLEASE UNDASTAND!!!
>>335907610
why does it suck?
>>335905013
>>335905515
ADAPT TO THIS, GAMER
>>335892147
Nintendo as a whole is notorious for thinking that everything that they make is great and if you don't like it, you just don't see what they were going for, and that's your fault. Just look at Federation Force. Nintendo didn't fuck up. You guys just need to understand what's up with the game!
>>335901881
>>335901981
Jim fucking Sterling son gave the game a 2/10. That might've done something.
>>335907610
Aww, damn. I like Yokai Watch
>>335891750
Maybe if SFZ took longer than a single Blockbuster rental to beat, people would be inclined to buy it.
>>335901516
>>335901434
fuck off nintendonkey
filtered
>>335907828
The thing is, internally they know the Wii U is shit. They've known for a long time. They just knew they would have to support it or risk going the way of Sega. They've done it reluctantly and it's hurt them and you can tell how much they literally cannot wait for NX. I wonder if the NX got pushed back because they saw the specs for what Microsoft and Sony were working on and knew they needed more power
>>335897504
>>335897723
>>335902987
>>335906753
Stop samefagging.
>>335909756
>The thing is, internally they know the Wii U is shit
Jesus Christ this place became NeoGA/v/ so quick nobody blinks an eye.
>>335908883
>17/70 medals.
>not showing your arcade scores either
What are you? casual.
one play on easy and your done? People like you wanting more more more and not enjoying what is there is why the industry is in the shitty dlc practice era it's in.
>>335902327
>>335909982
>play on easy
Sounds like you didn't even play it if you think there's any difficulty options.
>>335910095
normal mode is easy mode.
Arcade mode is hard mode. this is an accepted fact. additionally falco amibo gets you harder mode to.
so, basically we are right back to where we were with YOU having not played it.
>>335910084
>shallow monster hunter clone
o shit, she's serious.
>>335910348
So if I played all mandatory missions in MGS5 and beat both chapters, but I didn't play optional missions and unlock everything by getting S ranks, then I didn't really finish that game either? At least, that is the logic you're throwing at me.
>>335910901
Yes, is that a hard thing to understand?
It would be like saying "Bah, this rainbow six game sucks, a 1 hour tutorial and thats all there is? what a rip off"
You can't ignore ranks, multiplayer, other modes and extras.
OoT can be beaten in what? 4 + mins with glitches? is that a rip off too?
If you ignore half of the content you can't bitch "length" or if the game is worth it.
especially in mgs5 if you didn't do everything else you most certainly missed stuff.
>>335900974
64 had VS mode
no idea for assault
>>335911687
assult had multiplayer too, 1v1,2v2 1v1v1v1, and so on, with the ability to freely switch between running, tank, arwing and wolfen ships.
>>335911575
Side content should be exactly that. SIDE content. It should supplement the main content, not be the source of all the longevity and lasting appeal. Once you beat the game, there's nothing for anybody who isn't a completionist because the only thing left to do is the same things again.
What we need is a online multiplayer like the one in SF Assault
>Splatoon, a new IP made by Nintendo's younger developers, sells more than all of Miyamoto's recent projects combined
I think a few people are going to have "car accidents" for this humiliation.
>>335901067
>Pokémon
>not Monster Hunter
>acknowledging Gen 6 games' existence at all
>>335891978
That's what I'm saying. Mash Sqaure to win the games are lame
>>335892501
What an awkward Christmas dinner.
>>335911927
That is the second most stupid thing I've heard today.
side content in games doesn't count because its on the side. Clearly video games arn't for you. May I suggest a good book or something more on your level like a pop-up book specifically.
You have to factor all content into a game when determining worth. To do other wise is asinine.
Is dark souls like your worst game ever then given how you view side content? hell why even bring up mgs5 if you are gonna brush off side content.
>Once you beat the game, there's nothing for anybody who isn't a completionist because the only thing left to do is the same things again.
Spoken like a true millennial who wants thing handed to them.
seriously if this is how you think please find another hobby and stop shitting up this one.
>>335910084
>a troll account does things to troll.
woah.
>>335900960
This is just an opinion like the others, but personally every 2D platformer main titles on the WiiU are great, sadly, not for the 3D ones, i'm still waiting for the next 3D Mario that isn'T a 2D platformer in 3D perspective.
but for most of the others games, they are fine.
Personally, the WiiU is a party console (herpaderp, SF zero have no multi) so playing it solo is kinda boring for most games.
>>335904435
Americans don't sit on trains all day and play handhelds in public
>>335912326
I'm not saying that side content has no value. But I am saying that a game that's nothing but side content has no longevity.
>>335912649
Ok, congrats now that the first most stupid thing today. content isn't content is basically what you are saying.
>>335912745
Not really. I'm saying side content has no longevity. I don't even know where you got that.
>>335892680
People wanted a game with the same sort of design as Starfox 64 with modern standards for everything else, not a note for note remake of 64 you retard.
You're like the retards saying "wow did you just want a remake of Doom or something stop complaining". Having a similar but improved design philosophy is not the same as remaking a game with shit controls.
>>335908883
Haha you're barely a third of the way through the game you weakling. Fuck off and show me your time when you hit 70 medals. That's when you've finished the game you casual pussy
>>335912806
By saying side content has no longevity. That's just stupid. So, lets take harvest moon. you don't get married, build the farm, buy cow/chickens, interact with the towns folk or anything? just plant crop and sell them?
In mario kart you just play 50cc , 'cuz the other cc's are the same maps?
In super mario games you dont play the "special" levels?
In tetris you never play anything other than the standard difficulty?
In fable you only do the 5 quest needed to beat the game?
In Halo you only use the pistol and never play multiplay?
In doom 2 you only use the pistol also becasue the other guns need ammo in rooms you dont need to go into?
In mgs5 you didn't do any side ops?
In any rpg you just do exactly as it says and never explore?
see? all content matters to the worth of a game. IF you said it dosn't matter to the narrative of the game... well you would still be wrong in some cases but you would be closer to being right.
But no, you said and I quote.
> I am saying that a game that's nothing but side content has no longevity.
and
>Once you beat the game, there's nothing for anybody who isn't a completionist because the only thing left to do is the same things again.
If you are trying to tell me that arcade mode, diferent ship modes, co-op play, the training missions and extra missions in the same menu don't count and only "completionist" do this. please please please leave my hobby.
People have being playing games for almost 40 years now, you do not have to invest 100 hours to "complete" things just to enjoy the mount of content there is. you can do as little or as much as you like. But to just say side content doesn't count and doesn't add to the "longevity of a game" is just about the most stupid thing a person can say about video games.
>>335910084
I didn't know /v/ had an account on metacritic
>>335913597
Actually, I only played 150cc. 100 and 50 are too slow.
>>335910901
>so you're telling me if I haven't finished everything in the game, I've not finished it?
Do you have a mental problem or just thick as shit?
>>335912531
Americans (not only US, but also canada) are incradibly shy and closed about playing in pulic (no idea why) so instead they go for the big consoles instead of the handheld.
>>335913725
>not 200 cc
so here we are again with not playing all content.
>>335911927
You're like a kid who has chicken with veg and mash for a meal, eats only the chicken 'FINISH NOW MOM, WHERE'S DESSERT'
fuck off
![867a813049[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/goErkZ3.png "867a813049[1].png")
Fuck your Nintendo, this is now a One Piece thread.
Post your Robins.
>>335913824
I did play all the content. Unlocked all the tracks, all the characters, all the kart pieces and all the stamps. There was no point to replay it in 200cc if it goes towards nothing.
>>335914059
good, so you played side content and enjoyed the game more for it. Because by your own rules, you shouldn't have had to do that. the standard tracks and characters should have been enough for you.
>this was the game made in Iwata's memory
Pretty fucking sad when you think about it.
>>335912326
I literally clapped in front of my screen to this explanation, doing the additional contents =/= playing the same thing all over again.
>Sonic adv. 2 :
if you want to do green hill zone you need all medals, so you need to do all of the ''optional'' content making you discover everything like all of the chaos things.
>Mario galaxy 1 and 2 :
Unlocking the purple comets and luigi is insanely satisfying. also, melons instead of green coconuts.
>etc.etc.
additional contents are made to have more fun so retards who only do the main story line should just sell all of their games and only retail for 1 or 2 days.
>Imagine playing chrono trigger without all of the side quests
>>335914253
Yeah, but there's a reason. There was still more to do and unlock, things that actually changed the game. After less than 4 hours, Star Fox Zero does not have that. You unlock arcade, a sound test, and that's it.
>>335914521
>You unlock arcade, a sound test, and that's it.
Not him but you can also unlock the Retro Arwing and the Black Arwing.
>>335914039
>Timeskip robin
Fucking disguisting. At least post dressrosa Robin.
>>335914521
well you also unlock an alternate title screen so if you are being strict in your just for unlocking purposes you haven't finished the game because (even though it sucks) you still actually get something for doing it now don't you.
also see>>335914493
you are just being retarded.
>>335914778
just to clarify im saying >>335914493 is right and
you being >>335914521 are the retarded one.
>>335914778
Oh damn. An alternative title screen. I haven't actually spent time and money on Star Fox Zero unless I've unlocked an alternative title screen.
>>335914894
worry not buddy, at first I was sure you said I was the retard one, but then I reread and understood what you meant.
>>335914920
Just sayin, by your own rules if it gets you something it's worth it right?
plus I forgot like >>335914734 said you also unlock the ships with out needing the amiiboes.
so there you go a second reason. If you didn;t expect to play a starfox game more than once or twice why the fuck DID you buy it then?
>>335905350
Yes. Source: my ass
>>335915165
Yeah, if it gets you something, that changes the game, which is exactly what I said. And a different title screen does not change the game or how you play it, at all.
>>335915289
yeah but the other ships do? so go get fucked else where. you aren't going to convince anyone on a video games board that side content doesn't matter if it get you nothing. It's called playing a video game. again. please leave this hobby.
>>335892501
I'm sure this article contains a bunch of quotes taken out of context designed to start shit in true online-journalist fashion
>>335915423
Yeah, and I have the other ships. There's nothing more to gain except high scores and medals that do jack shit.
>>335891750
Don't care, the game is fun. Are the ring and weapon upgrades on the aquarosa bossfight random?
>>335914135
Best Robin
>Rehash the same game for the 4th time in a row but add horrible gimmicks and completely remove multiplayer
Starfox deserved a better company than Nintendo.
