>those Star Fox Zero sales
so what will 64fags now blame
needs more DIB DIBB DIB DABBA
>>335885390
Nintendo taking this long to still miss the point.
>>335885390
Dude are you fucking serious? I don't know how anyone could look at Zero and then say the series is the problem. Nintendo needs to stop fucking "innovating" for the sake of innovating. Also, no one wanted a 64 remake, we already got one of those, and this one is a worse remake with less content. All anyone ever wanted from Star Fox was a game that played exactly like 64 but with new planets, new bosses, a new story, fucking new content, but Nintendo can't even get that right.
>>335885656
perfect
>>335885656
So....assault but longer
Nintendo has done little right recently. Their IP would be in much better hands if they had a bigger budget.
>>335886228
Nah this could have been good if they removed Miyamoto and let Platinum go full control.
What ARE the sales?
>>335886301
Absolutely not, Platinum are the reason it's garbage.
>>335886363
Like 40,000 worldwide at most. Japan only sold about 15,000.
>>335886390
nigga this game doesn't even have the platinum shine you usually see
>>335885921
Assault was not just 64 with new shit. It was weird experimental bullshit that was trying to emulate 64 based on someone who saw someone else play 64 7 years ago and tried to recreate it based on memory. The on foot sections were garbage and it was a horribly linear experience with shit boss fights. It's only like 64 if you've never played 64 and sat through the entire game with vaseline smeared over your eyes.
>>335886478
Literally if the controls had options the sales would be much larger the main play style doesn't sound appealing at all when your just hearing about it
>>335886518
Platinum are a fucking talentless dev and all their games are shit. "Shine" my ass.
>>335886518
Don't you get it anon, now that Platinum is popular and used to develop normie games that everyone can get into instead of niche games only weebs care about, /v/ has to hate them now and everything they've ever done is terrible.
>>335886478
25k in Japan. Presumably you pulled '40k worldwide' out of your ass.
>>335886604
>he thinks the controls would make the sales magically go up
>>335886571
Assault's single player and console implementation are rushed and lacking in polish, but its full potential will surpass 64.
>>335886670
Yeah definitely a purist fag. What's the point of making a new Star Fox game if you fags just complain about it anyway.
>>335886704
I feel more like it's the usual 64fags than anything else.
>>335886604
>so you wave your controller around to change view
>and it weighs like five pounds
>oh and it's also half your hud
>but also your screen sometimes
>it's really very intuitive when you try it
>I mean it worked for a totally different game on a completely different genre and it sold tons!
>also there's no way to have controls more traditional to the series
I can't believe it was ok'ed.
>>335886604
It's also a series that most people don't care about and to kids nowadays who would only know Star Fox from Smash, probably isn't interesting.
>>335885390
Game with forced motion controls that was advertised to modern children who play assassin's Creed and call of duty.
Could not have missed the mark any harder
>>335885509
A BADDA BAB DAB BADDAP
>>335886791
So what you're saying is that they should dumb the game further.
>on rails shooter
>2016
No thanks doc
Star Fox will always be that meme I never understand. I tried 1, 2, 64 and 64 DS and the only one that was fun was 2, which was incomplete anyway.
64 DS also felt like the same game as 64 so I felt a little jewed
>>335886736
Nope, that's wrong. It did not sell that much in Japan. 40K is a liberal estimate considering that it flopped in Japan and it was never going to sell as much overseas as it did there.
>>335886704
>/v/ will finally stop pretending it knows how to play Bayonetta
I will never again have to endure retards talking about "end game viability" when in reality they never even got to infinite climax much less pure platinumed Jeanne 3.0 on it.
Thank you, Jesus.
>>335885390
Platinum
Motion controls
Miyamoto
Reviewers
Bad word of mouth (legitimately this one)
Wii U (everyone I know who owned a 64 doesn't give a shit about Wii U)
Take your pick
>>335886848
Fuck if I know I'm not in marketing.
>reggie, the game sales are shit what do we do?
>LETS MAKE THEM EVEN MORE CASUAL
This is the only thing Zero did right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73JymImbgIY
>>335886949
http://gonintendo.com/stories/256812-starfox-zero-guard-japanese-sales-details
baka desu senpai
>>335886773
What Nintendo keeps over looking for some reason is the smash effect. When you put an obscure older series in to smash it generates a good amount of interest, but instead of using that to their advantage as change to stabilize another series to help build revenue they just make a one hit cash cow and not follow up on it in the slightest look at kid icarus
>>335887190
>baka desu senpai
Jesus Christ it's like you watch an anime one time and shit out what you heard.
>>335887039
it does make me wonder why bother making another star fox game when 64fags would just whine about it
Why not just make a lite flight sim?
The actual Star Fox fanbase is fairly small, but a lot of people recognize and like the franchise. Wouldn't hurt to change things up in a way that makes sense in-universe.
Same reason there should be an F-Zero beat em up.
>>335887190
>baka
>desu
>senpai
Can you commit sudoku?
>>335885390
i think its cool that fox from smash is getting his own game
>>335887225
KIU was more of Sakurai's initative tho
>>335887190
that grammar...
>>335887236
>>335887298
No can do senpaitachi
>>335886865
>Buy a remake
>"What the fuck it's the same game"
>>335887225
Kid Icarus is kind of an outlier to the rule though. Sakurai won't let anyone touch Smash or KI without him and spent the last half decade chained underground in the Smash dungeon being tortured by Miyamoto.
I'm sure he wants to make more KI but can't because he's always doing other shit. It's probably a big reason why he flooded Sm4sh with so much KI shit.
>>335887280
have you seen the puristfags make up noise
>>335887236
senpai are you new to 4chan desu?
If Nintendo wants to suck gyro aiming dick all day they should have made Zero a mobile game instead and made it a single screen rail shooter. That would have sold better.
>>335887190
I've seen some shit but you're ratard ass can suck on a pillow bitch
>>335887236
>>335887298
>>335887359
I seriously hope this is bait
>>335887345
Even still someone should be convincing them to build more on it, it's like potential means nothing in the industry nowadays
>tfw Command remains the second best Star Fox game and probably always will be
>>335887190
what triggers baka?
>>335887298
>pretending to be new to bait
>>335887236
>actually new
And they're both responding to ironic shitposting. What a wonderful circle of garbage.
>>335887485
The second best Star Fox game is Star Fox, you swine.
>>335887512
Tiffany.
>>335887264
nintendo knows not to cater to the old audiences like melee for example.
those people are grown adults, nintendo's audience will always be the children/teens.
>>335887485
64 = SNES > Command > Assault = Zero > Adventures
Has anyone gotten used to the motion controls yet? It's a little fucky. Almost died on the first level.
>>335887575
>nintendo's audience will always be the children/teens.
I think the only people who deeply care about Nintendo at this point are those who have been playing their games for a long time, anyone who jumped on in the last 10 years probably isn't that attached
>>335887575
>nintendo's audience will always be the children/teens
Too bad they're too busy playing Call of Duty to give a shit
>>335887575
>melee
>>335885390
I'm waiting for the inevitable NX release.
price is too high. i'm not going to support this shit when it'll get an nx "hd reboot" when then console launches. while it will still be selling for -$10 msrp on the wiiu
>>335887651
no point in catering to the old fags who should have grown up a decade ago, they're going to keep playing it regardless.
>>335887485
Meta critic's credibility ain't shit
>>335887770
I fucking hope not. I don't want a gamepad 2.0
>>335887828
Who said anything about Metacritic, the only competition it has for second best is the original SF, Adventures and Assault were shit and Zero looks to be as well
>>335887912
You can NOT say command wasn't anything but dead last in the series and literally mean it.
>>335888043
>all flying
>ship variety
>god tier music
>best controls of any star fox game
who gives a fuck about the fanfiction tier storylines when Star Fox has never had any memorable story outside quoting 64 levels
so wait zero is shit again? is it just because of the controls?
>>335888112
>again
It never wasn't.
>>335888162
im pretty sure there was a point where everyone was hype for this again. The whole thing has been a whiplash of
>holy shit they announced a new one, HYPE
>oh it looks like shit
>oh they fixed it
>now it's out it's terrible apparently
I mean from what I played it was alright, but that was in co op mode which is pretty much what I'm buying it for.
So what makes it shit? Is it the controls? Less stages then prior games?
>>335888106
Holy shit star fox purists at the most jaded fan base I ever seen
>all flying
Literally all you did was short dig fight after short dog fight, no of them had any challenge to them and all the pivotal bosses were damn near forgettable
>Ship variety
All just boils down to standard, multi lock, heavy slower shots etc. The designs were neat but the difference in ships was hardly there, that's literally the only good thing it's going for it and should be remembered for
>best controls
The stylus touch screen controls were boring as fuck and added nothing.
>>335885390
>Thinking the original playerbase wants to play a game filled with gimmicks
>>335885390
>Kirby was a better Starfox than Starfox
>>335886949
You do know Star Fox isn't popular in Japan, right? You're pulling it not selling better overseas out of your ass.That isn't to say it's going to sell well.
>>335888269
The two arguments are this.
>The controls are shit
They are not easy, that's for sure. The thing is, you feel like a golden god after they click. This is going to vary for people, with some going full Gies and just giving up.
>It's too much like old Star Fox
I thought this is what people wanted
>>335885390
>so what will 64fags now blame
TRUE STAR FOX HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED
>>335891293
thanks for the actual answer anon. I played a demo at a booth on co-op mode and really enjoyed it, I'll likely mostly play it co-op at home, but now I'm torn. I can either buy it and support the guys, or since nobody is buying it I can wait for the inevitable price drop.
>>335890918
Don't spoil anon.
>>335891381
Nintendo doesn't drop prices of bombs even, so I'd say do what you want anon. The second print might be cheaper than the first though, as it will not include Guard.
>>335886604
Only reason I haven't bought Zero is because of the controls. Can't you just play with the Pro Controller?
>>335891503
Oh shit, I kinda want guard. Also I'm hoping there's some kind of price drop, the canadian version of SF0 is like $80 for fucks sake.
>>335887575
And the WiiU is the living proof of how successful this is.
