>there are literally more mimics then normal chests in DS3
Damn Fromsoft, that mimic really surprised me. It really took me off guard, after all those other mimics. Seriously, I found like three normal chests and 7+ mimics at this point. What a masterwork
>>335822270
just attack every chest you see.
>>335822270
The chain sticking out of real chests is different then the Mimic chests, welcome to Souls.
>This just in. There are monsters in a game full of monsters. More on this at 11.
>get to one area
>no signs around chest
>assume it's safe
>it's a fucking mimic
>put it to sleep and grab the treasure
Damn it. Unreliable assholes.
>>335823098
>This just in. Local man misses the point entirely.
did you know you can see the chests that mimics breathing?
It's subtle, but the lid moves some.
OR can charge all your stamina in a strong attack... or spam pestilent mercury since it won't stand up from it.
>>335823197
The point is there were complaining about was there being too many monster chests. In a game about everything trying to kill you.
>>335823360
>the point of Dark Souls is le YOU DIED xD
>>335822270
I wish there was a new mimic gimmic in DaS3. The mimics were a surprise in DaS1 because nobody knew about them. But now that everyone has played that, they've gained meme status and everyone knows to attack every chest and look out for them right from the get-go. And the fact that there are more mimics than actual chests also means people are never going to forget to inspect each chest. It'd be different if it were only a handful, because then you it might slip your mind.
So whenever I see another chest, I just say "oh boy here we go again..." and it's fucking nothing.
There should've been a new trick. For example, an enemy that's disguised as a door, and you get absolutely raped when you open it and it's actually a monster's mouth or something along those lines. Same concept as the mimic, but a different disguise so that players get tricked again.
Am I going insane or does anyone else realize this DaS wasn't as ambitious as 2 or even the first?
IT's pretty linear and has nice graphics but moves, enemies and ambience got kinda stale. I thought we would dwelve in fantasy horror and it's much more tame than BB.
Also about the chests, that shows really how they didn't really cared about it.
>>335822270
>their grab one-shots you at 20 vigor while embered
>>335823669
You're a liar.
I know this because I get grabbed often, as I am retarded.
>>335823360
But a mimic is supposed prey on the players trust.
There is no trust from the beginning so why would you ever fall for one.
Are you guys that autistic?
The only effecive Mimic in any Souls game is the first one that kills you, after that you just check every chest for the chain or attack it.
The first mimic in DS1 was great because you opened many normal chests before and should have known better because its in Sens funhouse and sorrounded by blood in the middle of the room.
The first chest most people will find in DS3 is a mimic, which shouldnt hurt veterans - and its much less fair for first timers. From then on its just annoying to kill all the mimics, they serve no real purpose anymore.
>>335823360
No you fucking stupid, point of a mimic is a monster that MIMICS things and preys when you least expect it
In DaS3 is so lazily done that EVERY CHEST IS A MIMIC SO THERE NO REASON TO NOT HIT IT FIRST, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
And always are chest mimics. No furnitures, no items, nothing new. It loses the point and the appeal of it.
>>335823636
Well when the story and ads all talk about how you're going to die and how nothing will be easy.
Yes, the point of Dark Souls "le dying".
>>335823895
Word. It's sort of like all the shitty mound makers out there now who just immediately attack the target. It ruins any sort of surprise, or element of betrayal that's supposed to happen.
>>335823949
>And always are chest mimics. No furnitures, no items, nothing new. It loses the point and the appeal of it.
What about some barrels or crates and if you roll into them you get covered in maggots and bleed out
>>335823895
>>335823949
>>335823647
>>335823949
>>335824067
Thank you. Such a shame, really
>>335822270
Not only are there a ridiculous amount of mimics, they're designed like total joke enemies except they hit harder than Black Knights. And this is the same throughout the game, so it must have been a nasty surprise for any new player who found one of the earliest chests in the game.
>>335823348
The breathing seems less obvious than it was on 1
Also, profaned capital
>there are literally two fucking mimics next to each other
>>335823829
At least you're honest.
>>335823659
DaS3 probably has my favorite level design within each level. The levels are so dense with looping pathways and they just feel so large and fleshed out.
But I would've preferred if they truly interlocked like the metroid-style design of DaS1.
DaS2 had the worst level design by far though. It was both linear AND each individual level was also quite empty and bland, for the most part.
I just wish they went back to having no bonfire warps. They're a crutch the developers use so that they don't need to worry about interlocking level design. When you play DaS1, you get such a deep appreciation of the level design, because you're constantly charting out where you're going to go and how you're going to get there, and you actually learn to remember the layout of every square inch of the game. But it's different when you can just warp to any bonfire at any point in the game. You never need to go back through anywhere. And in DaS3's case, it meant there was much less choice in what order you were going to complete things.
>>335824067
>be Mound Maker
>get summoned
>find host
>do pray emote
>if he trusts me help him out with the level
>he is slowly getting more confident
>agro everything and train it all into him
>do dignified bow while going home
Sometimes I'll help hosts out all the way to the fog and sometimes I'll show them secrets. Sometimes I'll just hide somewhere and go afk to get coffee. It's good fun being an absolute Madman.
I finish my first playthrough with 4 symbols of avarice. How many did you rack up?
Are you all dumb? Throw an undead hunter charm in it and you get its shit without fighting it. I have gotten two symbols of whatever already. You know the helmet that boost soul gain and item discovery. Otherwise just check the chain of see if it breaths.
>>335824281
>i had people agree with me. I AM NOW CORRECT!
>>335824723
>Throw an undead hunter charm in it and you get its shit without fighting it
i do this. then later in the game i go back and kill them
>>335824736
Calm down fromdrone
>>335824723
You're missing the point. Nobody is complaining that mimics are too tough. The complaint is that having so many of them completely kills the point of mimics. They're supposed to be a surprise for unwitting players. But it's not a surprise when 2/3rds of all chests are actually mimics. The surprise is actually finding a real chest.
>>335823647
>they've gained meme status
there's a point where this needs to stop and we have clearly passed it
>>335824503
>summoned after pontiff
>help the summoner kill everything in the courtyard, deacons annd giants and crocwolves and even a couple of reds/faithful invaders
>get to the archers
>roll off where you find the easterner's ashes
>sneak up behind the first knight
>he backstabs it and kicks it off the edge and waves to it while it's falling
>I backstab him while he's on the edge, kick him off, and wave while he's falling
Grapists are fun.
>>335823669
I live with light armor and 16 vigor. Ur a lying shit. Their stupid jump however.
>>335824025
No, that's what Bandai-Namco and PR marketing think the entire point of Dark Souls is.
It's difficult, but it's intended to be a fun game.
>>335822270
Are the mimic's teeth finger bones?
>>335824606
On NG++, still 0.
>>335824503
Do people actually summon mound makers? It's the "he's not going to betray you *wink*" covenant
>>335825038
no, the other way around
>>335825154
>are bones' fingers teeth mimics?
What are you on about m8
>>335824906
Not after your first mimic it real doesn't matter how many you put in because you can always tell wether or not it isn't. There is no surprise once you look at a chain and can tell every chest apart. Anyway I don't think anyone one on here is that oblivious to the tricks of knowing which is which. Point: after the first mimic it is too easy to tell which is which, there is no surprise unless you're retarded.
>>335823669
without armor, yeah
anyways, spam the attack button when grabbed to reduce damage.
>>335823669
face fuck demons don't deal that much damage m8
>>335825138
In High Wall and Settlement yeahnot been any further. 12 vertebra and I've never struck a host on purpose.
I wouldn't summon a Madman but there are lots of normies out there that do.
>>335822270
mimics in souls games are fundamentally flawed because once you know you can attack them to see if they're a mimic or not, you'll just attack every chest and there'll be no surprise.
>Play DS1
>See a chest
>Get grabbed
Oh fuck.
>Play every other DS game after.
>See a chest
>Is that bitch breathing?
>What's that chain look like?
>Lemme Lloyds that cunt
Mimics only work if it's your first DaS game.
http://webmshare.com/play/WN6oD
I want this guy to post more webms
>>335825138
i invaded a guy as a mound maker and showed him where some secrets and things were. i died defending him from an invader.
immediately after, i put my purple sign down and he managed to summon me back. it was pretty neat.
>>335825250
yes
>>335823949
ive literally hit every chest in every souls game ever since i got munched by that first mimic in anor londo in DaS1.
the mimics in DaS3 just have a lot of health so it gets old having to kill virtually every chest you see. i'm up to aldritch and im pretty sure ive only encountered 2 regular chests
I didn't think the first chest I found would be a mimic, but like hell I was going to be the guy who didn't check and get eaten. thank you paranoia, for making me look slightly less retarded.
>>335823659
The enemies are great. Weapon movesets feel pretty lame though.
My problem with the world is that they connected them for no reason. Try to convince me that connecting these linear paths with no shortcuts connecting each other was absolutely necessary. The Firelink Shrine should have been straight up the Nexus. Now there's some areas in the game that I'll never return to because they only serve to connect one end of an area to the beginning of another.
>>335825898
Did you stab him in the back?
>>335825945
I'm sure the first mimic is in Sen's Fortress. It's still not as bad as the lift that impales you (which is nearby, iirc)
Whatever happened to the bonfire mimic they showed?
>>335822270
Roll roll attack
>>335826054
oh youre right. i dont think i found that one on my first playthrough though.
>>335825154
>>335825927
>how to spot a mound-maker
>>335826103
They probably realized that would just be too awful to do to the player.
>>335825608
Yeah, but if only one in 3 or 4 chests actually isn't a mimic, it becomes even worse
>>335826103
That was fan made wasn't it?
The problem with mimics is that their novelty wears off after the first one you encounter. Everyone one after that you will most likely identify on sight and destroy before it can even attack once.
The only noteworthy one is the one before smoldering lake that can solo the stray demon for you
>>335822270
>Masterwork
Learn some fucking english
>>335824968
>Get grabbed
Whatever, I'll just back up and sip some-
>It jumps
>>335823647
The bonfire was not a bonfire....
>>335822270
Bravo OP.
>There are literally more threads complaining about this than actual chests in the game.
Damn OP, this thread sure is fresh. It's a really interesting topic, after all the same thread before it.
THIS IS NOT A PROPER COMPLAINT OKAY THIS ISN'T A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW POORLY DESIGNED THIS GAME IS OKAY YOU HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PLOT DECISIONS OR WEAPON DESIGNS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE ANY MERIT OKAY I LOVE ANIME AND I'M SO GAAAAYYYYY
There should have only been mimics in the first game. They were introduced unexpectedly and no one saw it coming. Why would you assume a game you've never played before has mimics?
Traps and chest destruction were a good idea in DaS 2. It provides a risk to opening a chest and checking for mimics for those who don't know about the chain. It was a step in the right direction really.
DaS 3 took steps back in that department and just placed mimics whatever the fuck they wanted and it's just tedious and not surprising every time. They've run out of creative ideas.
>>335827553
Fuck, you're actually right.
>>335826054
It's in the same room.
The lift didn't get me, though. When it slowed down I immediately got off because I explore everything.
When I saw it kept going I figured there was something dangerous up there and fucked with the camera until I saw the spikes. Then I noticed the lift was covered in blood.
>>335828794
Sen's Fortress is the second best dungeon in vidya. Tower of Latria 1 beats it on atmosphere.
>>335822270
wrong
normal chests are generally just gathered together
it's about 50/50 overall
>mfw in Dark Souls 2 there were chests that were traps and there was no way of knowing
>fucking rain of knives from one
>cloud of poison from another
>not a single one of these in Dark Souls 3
>>335826054
You kidding? The lift is nothing. You see the giant splatter, and you see it's odd way of moving, and you can figure it out in an instant.
The mimic is far more deceptive. Because you can hardly tell it's moving, unless you come to a complete halt, and stare at it for some time.
>>335822270
>>there are literally more mimics then normal chests in DS3
Source on this.
>>335829890
I think someone counted and there are in fact more normal chests, but this is thanks to a few "safe rooms" with 3-4 regular chests.
>>335829734
And SotFS added the firebomb trap to rarely show up.
Teriyaki really fuck this up. A-Team my ass.
I wanted them to do MORE with Mimics.
Imagine Mimic jars or crates or chairs...
Imagine any breakable thing in the game might be a Mimic..Doors that would grab you when trying to go though..
Would have been great.
>>335823659
dks 3 has the most potential because of the gameplay but it pales even to dks2 feeling of adventure and fantasy. That one felt like a journey.
In this one you go from castle to shithole to swamp to cathedral to corridor catacomb to cathedral castle to castle and then some more castle.
It lacks th eincredible variety of dark souls 2. even if the levels are better designed the game feels too small.
>>335830506
Remember that false door in Zelda OoT? When you tried to grab it, it would wobble like rubber, and then slam on you.
I'm pretty sure one of the Zeldas had jars that would fly at you too.
Just throw hunter charms or whatever they're called at them and take the item inside
>>335827021
That shit would be funny as hell first time through I forget what game i was playing but it was an RPG that used these crystals for save/heal points and in one dungeon there was a crystal looks just like them but a different color boom mimic save point I was genuinely surprised. Maybe rogue galaxy was the game?
>>335822270
They all have shitty loot too. Not even worth the time.
The best thing about the mimics is one change they did, if u throw a lloyds talisman so it opens up so u can take the item, if you then attack it the mimic "wakes up" and actually yawns and stretches its arms.
hilarious!
>>335824307
>put both to sleep with the same Undead Hunter Charm
>>335822270
Did anyone actually got caught by a mimic?
It's very obvious and it's the third game already. Every chest is a potential mimic. Just throw the medal at it, grab the loot and move on. Unless you're trying to get the headpiece.
>>335824067
Why the fuck would I go for le ebin betrayals when I could just kill you, are you mentally retarded
>>335831539
Throwing the medal at it also rolls for the headpiece, no killing necessary.
>>335823669
Bullshit, when I had 15 vigor they didn't one shot me, just came real close.
>>335829734
>>335830361
DS2 may be the weakest souls game but at the very least it shook things up in terms of formula.
>>335831810
Great. Thought it was only killing them since it never dropped from me and i always just throw medals at them.
>>335831971
More like shook things down.
>Got the headpiece but never wore it
Was it any good?
>>335832224
It screams attentionwhore.
>>335832224
It increases item discovery by a whole fucking lot but also drains your health.
>>335824380
I didn't mind the warping in 3 but holy shit going manually to Firelink was great.
You explore a huge area and when you reach the end, Firelink is there, the place with the 20 estus flasks.
>>335824906
In every single souls game mimics become trivialized once you encounter your first one off-guard and then hit every chest you see afterwards. There's no way to fix this problem, so why are you singling out DS3 for it?
>>335823669
So are these guys supposed to be Abyss Watchers gone feral due to the wolf's blood?
>>335832418
Isn't that the whole point of multiplayer?
>>335832501
Fuck that
>>335832170
(You)
>>335822270
What retard can't spot a mimic at this point, they've been the same in all 3 games
>>335832224
It killed me once when i was chatting.
>there are almost no mimics in later levels
>Miyazaki just wanted to fuck with players by swamping us with them at the beginning
>>335831539
>>335822707
>There are people three games in that still can't spot the difference from a mimic just by site alone
They breath and the chain is different. You don't even need to attack the chests because it's really obvious which is which just from looking.
Yes, I am really disappointed by that in DS3. Like, why not bring back the trap chests from 2 or try something new entirely; like some chests break after 1 hit or punish in another way so that you're forced to stand to your decision instead of just hitting every chest and get away with it.
>>335831270
FF12, IIRC
>>335822707
>>335822860
>>335833158
That's not even the point here. The issue is that when you have more mimics in the game than you have regular chests, it's not exactly surprising, or interesting.
Even worse is that all of the mimics are always in fixed positions. They should have the same chests, but have every playthrough randomize which chest becomes a mimic. That would actually be interesting.
You sure are mad about mimics, anon.
>>335832832
>>335834420
DELETE THESE
>>335825945
>the mimics in DaS3 just have a lot of health so it gets old having to kill virtually every chest you see
Why doesn't anyone seem to notice the chain pattern that is a dead giveaway for a mimic. You can also throw a Undead hunter charm to make them sleep and grab the item if you don't want to fight them or still unsure if the chest is a mimic
Who gives a shit? They drop items anyways and are easy as fuck to kill.
>>335822270
I love their flying kick, it's fantastic
>>335822270
There is nothing wrong with this. I recognize the game has problems but this really isn't one of them.
HOW ABOUT THIS
>summon sign mimics
>>335831539
I got caught once because I though "nah the last 5 chest were mimics, this can't possibly be another one"
well, it was
>>335822270
This is the third game, no one is going to get caught by a Mimics anymore.
>>335834859
That'd be dope.
>bout to summon someone
>realize I'm offline
>too late as its activated just by stepping on it
>>335834859
Message Mimics
>Praise the che̶҉s̵̸͏t!̵̨
>and then
>I̕t͡҉'̴͢l͟l̶̕҉ ̴͠h̵̨a̢̛ppe̷n t̶o̸ ̷̛͝y͞͞o̢͠u͘͢
>>335823669
Honestly I don't understand why everything in the Souls series doesn't just fight with it's hands/body. Grabs, shoulder smashes, poise breaking slaps, kicks, etc. are all broken as fuck.
>>335822270
I feel like someone misread or mistyped a memo and put mimics where chests were supposed to go and vice versa
I'm still disappointed there were no bonfire mimics. It's so easy. I even attacked a few to make sure. Nada.
Very unfortunate.
>>335834859
>summon npc
>turn your back to it
>drags you off camera
>message saying "you died"
>>335824252
There are pots in Boreal Londo that inflict frost damage/frostbite on you if you break them. They can kill you if you don't react quick enough.
>>335834859
Isn't that what the mound-makers are about?
>>335832648
the goat men are the descendents of the last of the demons. its in their weapon descriptions, plus you find them in the bonus dungeon in the smoldering lake
>>335835254
>bow to them
>they start to bow then transforms into a Mimic to eat you
>>335835625
Why is Ross the perfect Friends characteR?
>>335835189
>message mimic warning us about chest mimic in front of it
>>335822270
honestly their density is the worst in areas around the profane capital which really makes sense.
the whole place is clearly a monument to greed, I can see how the nobles would use mimics to guard their treasure.
There's only 14 mimicks more chests are non-mimicks
>>335834859
>mound makers
>sunbros placing red signs
>Play on PS4 with PS+
>Never got invaded
>Never summoned as Farron Watchdog, Aldrich or any of the blue faggots
>Invades me always into 3vsme fights, even as moud maker where I expected churayzee power rangers fight
>only online I got was helping people as Sunbro, even than after 30 or so medals nobody of hosts was invaded
I'm already level 80 and am at Lothric bros and Champion Gyndur, what the fuck I do wrong?
>>335834781
RIDER KIIIIIIIIIICK
Mimics should evolve, they're boring and predictable at this point. They really missed an opportunity there.
>door mimics
>lever mimics
>bonfire mimics
>elevator mimics
>>335836182
got it for ps4 and paid for it
>>335836259
Oh god, elevator mimics.
>get on elevator
>it fucking eats you
What about Fog Wall mimics?
>>335836434
They'd have to bring back mid-level fogwalls again for that
>>335836390
But I thought most people would play on PS4 and it would have biggest community...
>>335835806
>I wanna buy some fancy clothes, better grab some dosh from one of my chests.
>mfw
>>335836560
I think they should do that too. I'm not sure why DaSIII lacked more fog walls. They've always been more prevalent.
>>335836390
This 2bh. You done goofed famalam
>>335836604
That's just the marketers lying to you.
I get constant invasions as Aldritch at 80.
Got a lot of dark moons through my game
farron watchdogs i still get but its active at 30
invasions are mostly ganking bullshit but at least 35-40% of the time it's fair
(as in 2v1 but you have npcs to help you)
Literally grinded out all the covenent rewards legitelt
>>335836818
I mean, I switch covenants after 10 minutes of waiting. Already changed server options to worldwide and still nothing. I often was summonend to Aldrich, but it always failed (at least 10 times already).
>>335836996
I got summoned for Aldritch maybe every 10 seconds (there was points i couldnt even take it off when i tried to) maybe 1-2 / 40 or so failed (prob because they go offline or challenge the boss)
And my servers stayed at the local setting to minimize bumper cars.
>>335836434
>step on the button
>it takes longer than normal to start up for your first mimic clue
>halfway through the ride it slams to a stop
>lets out some awful screeching
>starts up again going 100mph towards the ceiling
>slams you into it if you don't roll off in time
Guys, wait. I got it. The ultimate mimic.The level mimic. The ENTIRE LEVEL. IS A MIMIC.
>>335822270
I kind of like it, I always toss a talisman on a chest I find it feels like I'm an explorer doing a ritual to check for traps.
>>335837476
They already did it on BB, every time you do chalice dungeons it kills your will to play the game.
>>335836818
I'm invading as aldritch at lvl90 even on a pirated version. I can Imagine there are x100 more invasions on retail.
>>335837723
They could make a trap with a fake summoning symbol
>>335832646
Because it's a new fucking game that shouldn't repeat the same bullshit for the 5th time in a row?
I nearly had a hearh attack when I hit a chest and it wasn't a mimic, holy shit that was scary, I didn't even know those were in the game.
>After a tough boss
>Bonfire shows up
>Go to rest at it
>The Bonfire was a mimic
>"You Died"
>>335832224
increases item discovery and souls acquired
decreases health slowly
pretty good to put on if you're helpin hosts and you defeat the boss, giving you time to put it on
>>335836259
>Mimics should evolve
They can get activated by enemies and attack them. Happened to me with the demon before the smouldering lake. Shit was fucking hilarious.
>>335832646
Correct, but they're not thrown at you in the absurd numbers that DS3 does it where you actually expect a chest to be a mimic when you test it instead of testing it to be safe.
