>Japanese publication Nikkei questioned Nintendo president Kimishima on why code name NX will not be launching during the 2016 holiday season. His response was so that Nintendo "wanted to make sure there were games to go along with the NX." This is certainly sound reasoning, as launch titles are important for a new console.
>The question is — what launch titles will the NX have? A new Super Mario title seems accurate, and Zelda Wii U/NX will certainly be there (I hope). What other games could Nintendo have up their sleeves? Perhaps a new IP?
I'm sick and tired of you kids crapposting about the NX launch date. Nintendo knows what it's doing and delayed the launch so there are more games available. So chill out and have some faith.
NX launch titles
>Splatoon HD
>Zelda U HD
>Star Fox Zero HD
>New Super Mario Bros NX
If there's no "true 3D Mario" THIS time, there never will be
>>335786560
That logo makes me rock hard.
I was a shock when I first read the news, but after thinking about everything all day I'm excited. I look forward to finding out more about the NX and seeing Zelda U. It's about time they show us more things about it. I'm excited for the title. I own a Wii U and I don't regret my decision for buying it. I have a decent size library of games. Actually the Wii U is my favorite console. Could have it been better? Of course. Am I sad that it won't have its own Zelda game? Yeah, but I didn't buy it for just Zelda alone so I'm not upset. Now I just need to decide which version to buy. I regret buying TP for the Wii, but I feel like it won't matter this time around.
>>335786726
I sense sarcasm in this post. I hope all those games get ported to the NX - I'd definitely buy them all.
>already worried the system isnt going to have games
top fucking kek.
the ps4 launched without any games and look where it is now.
>>335786726
Don't forget remastered Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time.
>>335786956
>without any games
What is Knack? Sttupid Nintendrone.
Nintendo Xbox
>>335786915
Youre the genuine cancer killing video games. Youre why consoles are getting phone development cycles.
>>335786560
Just like the wii u had so many games on launch right3 months wont make games magically appear, especially when now that it is more powerful than wii u you have to add another 1 year to the development cycle that is already abysmal long with most games already taking 5 years.
At least Kimishima is brutally honest. Iwata would've tried to sugar coat shit again.
Nintendo is never going to get third party support again. The best they can do is buy out devs to make exclusives for them. They'll fill their launch with their own games, which includes Zelda.
>>335787076
Found the underage faggot.
Nintendo home console launched in 1985, 1991, 1996, 2001, 2006, 2012, and now 2017.
>Zelda Wii U/NX
>Super Mario platformer
>Pikmin 4
>Kirby 25th anniversary game.
>Wii U re-releases (Splatoon, Smash, Mario Maker, etc.)
>At least one HD remake/remaster
I don't expect much more than that. Possibly a new Animal Crossing or even DKC, but that's about it.
So wait, nintendo won't sell jack shit this years christmas?
>>335786560
more like they want people to still buy the wii u version of zelda
>implying they didn't delay because PS4K is going to fucking kill it this Christmas
Let's face it. Nothing can stop Sony now. Nintendo realizes this and thus retreated. NX will likely perform less than vanilla PS4 so they couldn't bear the shit PR.
>>335787176
True he would have said "please understand"
That's... Fucking brilliant. Always confused me as to why they show nothing on the day they know EVERYONE will be watching and judging.
>>335786560
What difference can three months make?
>>335787982
Yup
>>335786560
Nintendo has been doing spring launches for its handhelds now for a while. Its not surprising that their next one would follow the same schedule.
>>335788046NOGAEMS
>>335787140
>Just like the wii u had so many games on launch right
I think you have brain problems, the reason they're doing this is to AVOID having another Wii U situation.
>3 months wont make games magically appear
4 months, consoles launch in November for Black Friday.
It won't, but it'll give developers longer to finish games so they'll be at launch and not somewhere down the road.
Nintendo
>Build games with the console so people have an immediate reason to buy it
Microsoft
>Build games after the console has sold enough so their loyal fans won't be disappointed
Sony
>What the fuck is a game
>>335786560
NX will launch with.
Splatoon with all DLC
Hyrule warriors with all DLC
Smash bros with all DLC
Xenoblade X with all DLC
The new Zelda game.
>>335786560
>putting faith in games
That's not how it worked out for PS4. Nintendo is doomed.
>>335788193
>le nx is a handheld maymay
"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later."
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/06/18/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-talks-amiibo-and-the-skylanders-deal/
>>335786560
Figures it takes iwatas death to have main Mario at launch again
>>335787982
They could always announce some stuff out of the blue in Directs.
The last Direct had a good number of new game announcements.
>>335788251
PS4 has most games out of any console this gen. And Bloodborne is the best exclusive this gen. Instead of being mad about PS4, Nintendrones should be mad at Nintendo for failing to provide a proper console since Gamecube. Can't wait to see what gimmicky shit Nintendo will pull this time.
>>335788426
:^)
>>335788426
>PS4 has most games
>posts games that aren't out yet
ok
>>335788251
But the PS4 has way more games than the XBONE you fucktard
>>335786892
>>335788426
>PS4 has most games out of any console this gen.
I love statements like this. I mean, we're all posting using the internet and in less than 10 seconds can find out that's nonsense.
>>335786560
One part of the N is 3D the other isn't.
Just bugging me
>>335788426
Where's fucking Dragon Quest: BUILDERS, you piece of shit!?
>>335788426
I love these posts because every time it's full of games that never come out and ports.
>>335788653
Stay mad, plebian.
>>335787176
To be honest, shit companies like Ubisoft were complete dicks to Nintendo. It's not like I am playing their games on my PC, I haven't even bothered with pirating ZombiU, so, why would I ever consider having their games on Nintendo console even if I had one?
>>335786560
It just dawned on me but are sony and.Microsoft only releasing theire "updated" versions of their consoles because they are in some way worried about the nx releasing?
And whatever it may be it will captivate people and move them away from the older hardware?
Like the timing of all thus news about new/updated hatdware is almost. To impeccable to be just a coincidence.
Well all in all i at least hope of the potential line up some time soon
>>335786560
Is that N64 style NX logo official?
>>335788228
For 3rd parties this is actually worse.
Wii u already is proof that not a single person buys or even wants late ports.
And from nintendos side 4 months simply dont matter.
>>335788872
Yes.
>>335788736
No, they are releasing new versions of their consoles because current ones are garbage. It's not 8th gen, I see 7th generation as Sega Genesis and PS4K and new Xbone are its 32X.
>>335787176
>Nintendo is never going to get third party support again
It's literally been 7 years since you lost them and you're still so mad you have to make shit up.
>>335788872
Maybe
>>335788872
3/4 of no.
>>335788736
No they are doing it to maximize sales and in MS case to spark up sales again.
This has more to do with getting people on the egde to buy the updated version thinking it was the right decision rather than fear of nintendo.
Both already have too much headstart for nintendo to ever become dangerous for them.
>December launch, games are not ready
>yet somehow 3 months later they will be
fuck off nintendo, enough is enough
>>335788546
I just looked it up and it's true. PS4 has most games and highest rated games too. If we count all the games NOT on Wii U, then the contrast is even greater.
>>335788736
>some way worried about the nx releasing?
Fucking kek the amount of retarded Nintendo fanboys on /v/. No dumbfuck, they are releasing those upgrade because basically the PS4 and especially the Xbone have garbage hardware that are already starting to show it's age. Basically what this guy said > >>335788918
And they seem to want to have the same model as phone, or PC hardware. With the fact that it's also going to be marketed for 4K TVs which are apparently selling hot right now.
>>335788426
You do realize one third of those games will also be available on PS3, which is region free?
>>335789117
Look harder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_gamesnote the "Excls." tab
>>335789092
wii and ps3 launched in march in EU countries
what's wrong with that
>>335788902
>>335788936
>>335788957
>>335788994
I see. That clears that up.
This is the six thousandth time we've had this thread, and we have become exceedingly proficient at it.
>>335786956
>>335786956
>the ps4 launched without any games and look where it is now.
In the fucking shitter m8
>>335788723
If the consoles were anywhere near as good with as much of a user base as Xbox One and PS4, it would have gotten the third party support. The Wii U just didn't have the brand power from last gen AND the marketing to back it up.
>>335789092
They have the gall to say the same retarded shit every single time.
>>335788872
i don't know.can you repeat the question?
>>335789190
Nothing wrong with that, but it's a bullshit excuse.
>wh want to have games at launch. Somehow all games will be ready on March, but not in December.
What the fuck were the doing all those years?
>>335789315
I'm not the boss of you, anon.
>>335788251
>ps4 didn't have any launch titles
The lies some people say to make themselves feel smarter
>N64 'no gaems' launch
Super Mario 64
Shadows of the Empire
Pilotwings
>PS2 'woot best console ever' launch
A demo of the worst final fantasy
I don't care that the NX isn't releasing this year. I care that we don't even know what the fucking thing is yet or what games it's going to have, and that neither of those things are going to be shown at E3.
So what, we're just supposed to keep suckling on the Wii U's dried-out, shit-flavoured titty for another year and hope that "it will all be worth it guys, just trust us"?
>>335789092
Well, Game & Wario and Need for Speed were supposed to be a Wii U launch titles but they didn't come out until 4 months later.
Granted, neither of those are system sellers but there's precedent.
Also consoles launch in November.
>>335789321
5 months are a lot of time for testing a game, print the boxes, advertise the games
also who cares about fake american festivities...thanksgiving is a farce
>>335789419
U.S. launch: October 26, 2000
Armored Core 2
DOA2: Hardcore
Dynasty Warriors 2
ESPN International Track & Field
ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding
Eternal Ring
Evergrace
FantaVision
Gungriffon Blaze
Madden NFL 2001
Midnight Club: Street Racing
NHL 2001
Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Q-Ball: Billiards Master
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
Ridge Racer V
Silent Scope
Smuggler's Run
SSX
Street Fighter EX3
Summoner
Swing Away Golf
Tekken Tag Tournament
TimeSplitters
Unreal Tournament
Wild Wild Racing
X-Squad
European launch: November 24, 2000
Aqua Aqua
Dynasty Warriors 2
FantaVision
FIFA 2001
Gradius III and IV
International Superstar Soccer
NHL 2001
Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
Ridge Racer V
Silent Scope
Smuggler's Run
SSX
Tekken Tag Tournament
TimeSplitters
Wild Wild Racing
>>335789391
And you're____so big.
>>335789419
>n64 later
>*cricket sounds*
>ps2 later
>why can't I hold all these games?
>>335789573
B T F O
T
F
O
>>335789584
Life is unfor you
>>335789573
Ho boy, I can't wait for long ass
>fact
Opinion
post.
>>335786560
They're losing either way then.
Also here's the thing, there's rarely any more than one good launch title these days if at all. I guarantee you Zelda NX will be the only good one out of a bunch of shovelware that people will forget about a year after launch.
>>335789170
Now show me the list of Wii U games. Oh right, there are barely any.
I just want some more information instead of this gabbo tier shit they're drawing out
I hope the console's gimmick, whatever it might be, isn't shitty to begin with.
>>335789419
I didnt know FF13 was on Ps2 anon
>>335789648
I think a list of games literally nobody played speaks for itself.
But go on, tell me about Summoner.
>>335789603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_console_launch_games#Nintendo_64
>>335789648
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_console_launch_games#Sony_PlayStation_2
>>335789573
I see precisely 3 games worth caring about on that list.
>>335789592
>ps2 later
>
>gamecube later
>unique and exclusive titles worth trying which defined a generation and are still remembered
>xbox later
>why definitive edition with tons of extra content and superior graphics games?
>>335789729
the controller will be all scroll wheels
>>335789718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games
OOOOOH MY GOOOOOOD
IT
KEEPS
GOING
Even I didn't think it was this amazing, were you false flagging or something? Why would you request that I provide you with the absolutely most damaging evidence I could ever conjure up?
>>335789754
Like clockwork.
>>335789741
>>335789746
I meant that whenever someone gives big list of games to prove anon wrong, anon starts writing big ass posts giving opinions trying to discredit list. Hence:
>Fact
Opinion
>>335789674
This is exactly why they delayed Zelda again after they said 2016 previouslyand 2015 before that
>>335787982
Probably a price cut and another bundle.
They sold more WiiUs holiday season than the previous two years by bundling Splatoon and MK8 together rather than release a new game.
Then they should just wait until the next Holiday. No need to rush it.
>>335787982
Sticker Star 2
Pls look forward to it.
>>335789856
What about OTHER game
>>335789858
Okay. Have fun with your tech demo screensavers.
>>335789795
>>unique and exclusive titles worth trying which defined a generation and are still remembered
>implying ps2 didn't have them as well
>implying ps2 also didn't have unique games like Katamari and Mr Mosquito
>xbox later
>why definitive edition with tons of extra content and superior graphics games?
>implying most of them weren't on PC as well
Seriously the amount of salt the ps2 produced and still produces can fill an entire ocean
>>335787982
I have a feeling they realized this afterwards and are planning on rushing something out for the holidays.
>>335789856
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme_Run
Is it just me or does 2017 seem too early to introduce a new console? Most of the hardcore crowd already owns a PS4 or xbone, what's going to make them buy a second console with hardly any games?
>>335790072
They already bought two, so why not?
>>335790072
gimmicks, my lad.
>>335790072
It'd be 5 years since Wii U's launch, no need to drag things on.
>>335786560
>NX releases before E3 2017
>no announcement at E3 2016
>>335788046
Yeah. I swear to god that I remember they talking about having the NX for 2016 but the moment the PS4K rumors started popping up NX suddenly goes to 2017.
Can't blame them. Unless sony screws up really hard like they did with the PS3 vs Wii or Nintendo is willing to do double down their efforts like they did for the 3DS vs Vita they better off keep the launch separated.
And that's ignoring the fact Nintendo is losing to MS too. There's simply not enough air time for 3 major consoles. If Nintendo can't beat the MS, they are better of releasing and hyping their console are not in their "seasons"
>>335790059
>posting a game that no longer exists
>>335790072
>hardcore players own PS4
PS4 is Wii of this gen. Bloodborne sold less than Splatoon.
>>335790072
I imagine they release it with a big publicity hype via their new mobile games/services and general public fanfare: no compitition from the other two. This guarentees the fans buy it enough to spark an interest and if the games are good then the world in bombarded with good reviews admidst the PS4/Xbox mediocre ones and momentum gathers - especially if its linked to the 3DS.
>>335789418
right it had like two shitty launch titles and a bunch of third party games.
>>335790212
He just posted a list of games that never existed >>335788426
The WiiU was the best console ever because it had Mystical Ninja 2, Earthworm Jim 4 and Star Control 3.
>>335790184
NX releasing in 2016 were rumors, not Nintendo.
PS4K is a screw up. It's like New Nintendo 3DS but on home console scale, how console owners won't view it as Sony flipping bird to 40 million buyers of PS4 is beyond me.
WII U HAD NO 3D MARIO LMAO
>>335790213
And MP10 sold more than Bayo2
Both fanbase are filled with idiots
>>335790375
>3D world doesn't count because I don't like it!
>>335790375
>Super Mario 3D World
>>335786560
I get delaying stuff to improve quality, but when you do this year after year and it happens to every game its just pathetic. This company is becoming an embarrassment and I have a Wii U. Not sure how much longer I am going to support this company.
>>335786560
Zelda NX, and then pick 2 from this list:
Mario Kart 9
NSMB NX
Mainline Super Mario
New Retro game
And 2 from this list:
Sm4sh Port
Splatoon Port
Mario Maker Port
>>335790442
>>335790458
>3D world
>a literal port of an handled
>relevant
JUST
>>335790442
It's not a traditional 3D Mario platformer like 64/Sunshine/Galaxy was. Also it was a better version of a 3ds title.
>>335790072
Nintendo doesn't think they're competing with Sony or Microsoft.
>>335790685
Which is why they're in this shitty rut to begin with.
>>335790552
>traditional 3D Mario platformer
That phrase is an oxymoron
Every 3D Mario platformers has been radically different, there is no "traditional" 3D Mario platformer.
>>335790492
NSMB NX and a new Retro title are the only two that are realistic as launch games.
Sm4sh and Splatoon ports.
>>335790752
they didn't acknowledge Atari or Segs either, and look what happened to them. Unlike Sony they even made games and still died.
>>335786560
Kimi a boss.
I'm glad he's going to deliver games on launch.
Lets hope they're GOOD games.
From January until now the PS4 has been dominating the Japanese hardware sales every week. Nintendo is really stupid to release their console in this time period.
>>335790538
>m-maybe if I call it a port... that'll invalidate it!
>>335790552
Galaxy isn't traditional and was radically different from the other two.
It's also as linear as 3D World is and was their last attempt at making a game that "bridged the gap" between 2D and 3D.
>Also it was a better version of a 3ds title.
Not even comparable though. The level design is leagues better.
>>335790220
>I imagine they release it with a big publicity hype via their new mobile games/services
definitely this
>>335788931
how's MH 4 on the nintendo home console ?
>>335790767
>>335790876
>64/Sunshine/Galaxy have hub worlds
>Go to different parts of the hub to enter levels
>Select an objective to get a star/sunshine from
>These are used to progress in the game
>radically different
Yeah no.
>>335786726
That sounds like the ps4 lineup
>>335786956
>the ps4 launched without any games and look where it is now.
It now has 2 games?
>>335790936
Best game in the franchise. I play it every day.
>>335790767
Anon means that 3D World broke the convention of not being a collectathon. It's more like a 3D Super Mario Bros 3.
>>335790787
What worked for them won't work always. Bear in mind Nintendo saved the vidya industry and made sure nonshitty games came out. They literally molded the skeleton of the modern industry. But now, better competitors have cropped up.
Think of Disney for example, where there was a point where all they made was unbelievably bad animated films and it took them a long time to rebound. And by that time, DreamWorks was making really fucking decent movies that were received well, and they still are. If even Disney is panned for a shitty half-decade of movies, I'm sure Nintendo deserves flak for this flop of a console.
>>335790972
I didn't realize hub worlds were all a game needed to have the same gameplay.
Boy, I guess Sonic Unleashed is a traditional Mario game too!
>>335787982
Weren't they doing a new pokemon? It could be that
>>335791139
>It's more like a 3D Super Mario Bros 3.
You mean a 3D New Super Mario Bros.
>>335790876
>not have a good main mario in years
>WiiU is the first console without a proper 3d Mario
>he has no argument and has to rely on shitpost.
I feel sorry for you. I've been a Nintendo fan for over 20 years, but I'm not a drone and I can see what's wrong with this company
>>335791263
>>he has no argument and has to rely on shitpost.
Oh the ironing.
>>335791162
You didn't read the rest of the post did you? Sonic Unleashed doesn't have a menu before each level for which star to collect next.
>>335791162
Anon... They're not even remotely the same. SA1 and Unleashed both have hub worlds, but each level is LITERALLY different and don't have missions besides generic "get the 300 rings" and crap. Collectathon Mario games actually had plot in them and used the same map in different ways to encourage exploration and make it feel that much more lived-in rather than blocky.
It's been 6 years since Galaxy 2, anon. You sure you remember it that well?
>>335786726
>We want the ps4 audience
This is brilliant. Add paid multiplayer and I think we are into something big.
>>335788931
Why is Sony depressed there when their profits quadrupled this year?
>>335791257
It's pretty much the same shit, but yeah. It's nostalgiafagging on nostalgiafagging.
>>335791403
I guess that makes Sonic Unleashed Banjo Kazooie.
Should delay it till holiday 2017 then, just to be sure
>>335791403
Doesn't change that the three games have radically different core gameplay from each other, them having similar hub worlds doesn't change that. Sunshine added FLUDD, and then the gameplay was spraying, hovering, and getting different nozzles. Galaxy is much more linear and has you running on tiny planetoids and going on pre-set launch star lines to other tiny planetoids.
>>335791587
>It's been 6 years since Galaxy 2, anon. You sure you remember it that well?
Do you? The sorry excuse for a hub world called the "face ship" could barely even be considered one. It has one room on it and it's for power ups. Hell, you don't even fucking select missions from it, you go to a SMB3 style map when you want to play a level instead. How is that any different from 3D World?
>>335791649
0 quadrupled is still 0
http://japandailypress.com/sony-continues-to-lose-cash-will-sell-its-birthplace-property-2845039/
>>335786560
Honestly I don't really care anymore. I usually buy consoles at their EoL. I bought the Wii U too early (holiday 2013). I won't make the same mistake. I'm still waiting the right time to get a ps3.
>>335791874
http://fortune.com/2016/04/28/sony-annual-profit/
It's quadrupled to 2.7 billion dollars actually.
>>335786560
>Nintendo knows what it's doing
>>335791649
Corporations are people my friend
>>335792032
Delete this right fucking now!
>>335788931
But Sony has literally all of those companies making games for their home console, how many of those are still making games for the WiiU? How many of those still make games for the 3DS even? Monster Hunter is really the only relevant thing on that picture, and ironically it's the only thing that would've made me buy a WiiU, it's too bad they aren't retarded console loyalists like you and only release MonHun on profitable platforms huh?
>>335792629
Depression is more than just "being depressed," the adjective mood.
I'm more insulted by the fact that they are delaying the Wii U version just because they want the NX to shine.
At the very least say farewell to the Wii U with a timed exclusive AT LEAST.
>>335793809
That's what I thought they were going to do.
Then people who want to play it early would have to get/keep a Wii U.
Nintendo is retarded.
>>335792032
Selling off assets to get into the black =/= running a good business
Even the article you posted basically says they are still slowing down in nearly all areas but entertainment.
>>335786560
The last time I had faith in Nintendo was before their E3 2015 presentation
And we all know how that went down
>>335787982
No one is stopping you from buying a Wii U.
>>335790072
Never too early to replace that Wii U thing.
>>335786726
But splatoons already in hd
>>335786956
its ok when sony has no games.
>>335790861
Nintendo is stupid but not because of that, it's because they won't launch before the NEO.
From every indication, the NX is going to be more powerful than NEO, but launching late will only hurt them.
>>335788301
Honestly I wouldn't mind this because I never picked up a Wii U and those were games I really wanted to play
Fuck nintendo. After these past two gens, they'll be lucky if half of their mistreated audience comes back. No, they'll all be back. Clueless mothers and pathetic virgins to the rescue. RIP
>>335786560
>delayed the launch so there are more games available.
Great! New Mario and Zelda games confirmed!
>>335795883
Then why didn't you get a Wii U?
>>335796000
Zelda was actually confirmed...
New WiiU Zelda is going to be a Twilight Princess all over again.
No actual confirmation for a Mario title, but your logic is pretty sound.
>>335795918
The Wii Gen was 100 million people..
>>335788506
>Nintendo has no games this year
ok
>>335796153
They had a really, really shitty game though.
>>335796067
I should have when the price was lower, been looking for a cheap refurbished unit. It's not like I can't afford the 300 for it, just don't want to spend all that if I can avoid it. Price is a bit much for a system that's about to be last gen in it's own company.
What would be a better situation?
>NX launches holiday season with one game. Nintendo builds in a few popular VC titles for early adopters. NX benefits from holiday sales
>NX launches in March, competing directly with Sony's new thing. Launches with 3 games but misses out on the holiday sales and is competing with Sony
>>335786560
Good to see nintendo isn't even once making the mistake sony has done 4 times in a row.
>>335796383
Wiiu had the largest launch library of any console and it didn't help at all.
>>335786560
Why the fuck wouldn't there be games for it? They sure as fuck aren't busy making them for the Wii U.
>tfw you didn't buy the Wiii U
>>335788373
And they recently confirmed NX is the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS. Please tell me how a home console is going to replace a portable system, you fucking retard
>>335797021
I bought a Wii U, and if they end up just porting everything off the Wii U and to the NX, I'm buying a PS4. At least Sony didn't bait and switch everyone into beta testing a console they were going to port all their games off of.
>>335796673
In fact I don't even want to know how many of their games planned for Wii U have since been shifted to the NX after they realised the Wii U couldn't be saved anymore
>>335797021
i bought it, it was alright for stuff like smash and xenoblade x
at least the ps4 is getting some games i'm interested in later this year
>>335797283
>What is NEO
Except they did, on an even shorter timescale...
PC is the only non-cuck option.
But then you have to be a pcuck, so you're cucked while not cucking.
>>335786560
so no 3rd party support?
can't they even announce it at e3, get 3rd party in for holiday releases, 1-2 first party lauch titles and a few remasters?
>>335798056
The Wii U and the NX are two completely seperate consoles
The Neo is just the New 3DS equivalent for the PS4
>>335797021
>Mario Kart 8: best mario kart to date
>Bayonetta 2: never ever goldenface.jpg (also definitive version of Bayonetta 1)
>Xenoblade Chronicles X: one of the biggest worlds in single player gaming and best mech customisation in gaming
>Smash WiiU: a game where you get to play as Mario, Sonic, Megaman, Pacman, Cloud, Ryu and Bayonetta
>Splatoon: beat rocket league, destiny, halo and call of duty in multiplayer game of the year, also best shooter of the year (source: The Game Awards 2015)
Sometimes I feel regretful for buying a Wii U but then I remember, It actually ain't all that bad, certainly has more going for it than the likes of the ps4 and it's one game.
I can tell you this as someone who owns both a Wii U and PS4.
>>335798056
>PC
>non-cuck option
we're costantly getting cucked by hardware manufacturers, steam, shitty ports and now denuvo
>>335788426
I wish the "gimmicky" meme would rest for a little while. I don't mind Nintendo trying different things from the norm. I do have expectations about Nintendo giving me a console that meets certain industry standards (good online platforms and digital marketplace, better friends structure, comparability with the current generations power/capabilities, access to most AAA third party titles). To me, the Wii U's failure had less to do with the tablet specifically than it did the Wii U's obvious inferior hardware and support.
I think the tablet worked well for what it was, I don't mind them placing maps and inventories on it as it made my experiences on the main screen cleaner and more fun. I think they did miss an opportunity to asymmetric gameplay and multiplayer. I think forcing gameplay through the tablet when traditional controller styles worked better was also a mistake (like in Star Fox). Game to game though, the tablet worked fine and gyroscope aiming was great. I thought the Wiimote+ was pretty cool and worked well when it wasn't being used for forced wagglin. The 3DS' 3D component is fun and I like using it. I just hate the low resolution of the system.
As far criticisms of Nintendo consoles go, I'm not going to blink if the new one has something a little atypical. I'm going to be mad if Nintendo still hasn't taken the time to study their competitors and ensure that their new system is able to meet the current industry standards.
>>335798056
>what is NEO
until the official release, still a rumor
>>335797405
NES:
>AAA Zelda
2
>AAA Mario
3
>AAA Metroid
1
SNES:
>AAA Zelda
1
>AAA Mario
2
>AAA Metroid
1
N64:
>AAA Zelda
2
>AAA Mario
1
>AAA Metroid
0
Gamecube:
>AAA Zelda
2
>AAA Mario
1
>AAA Metroid
2
Wii:
>AAA Zelda
1
>AAA Mario
2
>AAA Metroid2
Wii U:
>AAA Zelda
0
>AAA Mario
0
>AAA Metroid
0
Th-Thanks, Nintendo...
>>335798351
Oh look it's Sex Genie. Who would have imagined in a Nintendo hate thread.
>>335798351
I mostly agree with this. My problem is from evaluating the system on its own though. It has those games and a few others but then that is it. The library is quality but very small. There isn't a lot of filler or any "hidden gems" on the system.
>>335796529
Only because devs dropped the wiiu because muh mature games for mature gamers such as myself (despite nintendo attempting to turn the wiiu into a core console).
>>335786560
>have some faith
>faith
>>335798351
This this the first generation that I've not bought any consoles. Currently the only game on Wii U that really grabs me is Smash 4, but I'm not buying a console for one game, especially if the NX is backwards compatible.
>>335798896
This. This generation was a real disaster.
As usual, PC master race wins.
>>335798782
The Wii U is the new Dreamcast and it will die like the Dreamcast.
>>335798351
I'll never understand why Nintendo tried so hard to pander to EA and Ubisoft during the launch window. How could they possibly think that the scummiest dev/publisher, and the single-handed worst "AAA" dev of all time would help them in the long run?
Why didn't they give F-Zero back to Sega so Sumo could make F-Zero UX?
Why didn't they talk to Square-Enix at all, outside of a ridiculously shitty MMO that's known as being one big joke in Japan?
Why didn't they release a Metroid or Fire Emblem title?
Why didn't they ask Capcom to make Monster Hunter 4U?
Why did they spend years releasing two HD ports of two Zelda games that didn't need them while putting the two fan favourites on the 3DS? Why didn't they just release Zelda U?
Why didn't they release a real 3D Mario game instead of an HD version of that shitty 3DS tech demo that was fun for five minutes?
Why didn't they just let Platinum have 100% control over Star Fox Zero? It's obvious Miyamoto doesn't know what he's doing anymore.
Why did they release Earthbound Zero, the game that literally nobody likes and is only loosely connected to the rest of the series, instead of fan-favourite Mother 3?
Why did they put the Virtual Console on the back burner compared to the Wii days? It's not like they're making anything new worth buying, so they might as well stick to the classics.
Why did they double down on a bunch of kusoge's like Pokken, Sticker Star HD featuring paint, and Splatoon?
Why are there still people in here trying to defend them?
I just have so many questions
>>335786956
>Knack
>>335798269
100% guaranteed that NX will play 100% of WiiU library.
100% guaranteed that just like 3DS to New3DS, NEO will start getting exclusive features and eventually exclusive games, driving a rift between the two otherwise hardware compatible consoles.
NX, NEO, Xbox One Two - all the same thing.
PC is the only platform where I can right now stick my 23 year old Sam and Max CD and just install and play the game.
I could play it even better, with no extra cash, but a little effort using a 3rd party engine replacement.
I can ever play most every console and arcade game from their inception until a rolling window about 8 years prior to the current date.
PC is the best platform and always will be - but i'll agree it's not always a 'user friendly' platform.
>>335786956
It literally still has no games. You should instead have used the PS3 as an example. No games at launch, games by end of life. Unfortunately, the psp, vita and ps4 can't claim such achievements.
>>335799454
>100% guaranteed that just like 3DS to New3DS, NEO will start getting exclusive features and eventually exclusive games, driving a rift between the two otherwise hardware compatible consoles.
Yeah, Xenoblade 3D and SNES emulation is a huge fucking rift alright
>>335786560
>>335786560
Smuggle dakimakura everyday
>>335799173
Search you feelings, Anon, you know it to be true.
>>335799173
I have a lot of questions about what Nintendo was thinking.
I get the launch window pandering, they were trying to get people enticed by showing AAA titles were coming to the system. The problem is the AAA titles that were brought were old and outdated by the time of launch.
I think EA intentionally worked to screw Nintendo over after the Origin agreement fell through. Otherwise, I don't know why the would bother releasing ME3 for the Wii U and nothing else when the complete collection was coming out just a few months later.
Ubisoft tried but they never got any significant traction.
All parties failed in the DLC and continued support front.
>>335795341
but on the nx it will have more and new "free" dlc
>>335786956
>ps4 launched without any games
While the PS4 lacks exclusive, it's the best multiplat console for plebs who can't into PC. You know, the majority of gamer.
>>335800149
>more hd
>>335799995
>I get the launch window pandering, they were trying to get people enticed by showing AAA titles were coming to the system. The problem is the AAA titles that were brought were old and outdated by the time of launch.
Which brings me right back to "Why EA?" Even Geoff kept grilling Reggie over it at E3 asking where Call of Duty was. Nobody gives a fuck about Battlefield 3, people want the CoD
>Ubisoft tried but they never got any significant traction.
I don't think Ubisoft tried at all. They put out ZombiU which was a tech demo at best, and Watch Dogs long after Watch Dogs became irrelevant, and everyone knew that it was shit. Then they got their Rayman trophy in Smash and continued to shit on Nintendo in the open air freely.
>I think EA intentionally worked to screw Nintendo over after the Origin agreement fell through. Otherwise, I don't know why the would bother releasing ME3 for the Wii U and nothing else when the complete collection was coming out just a few months later.
You're probably not wrong here. Daily reminder that EA intentionally worked to screw over Sega during the Saturn/Dreamcast days and was one of the big reasons that the Dreamcast failed, and why you can't find any EA Sports games for the system, only Sega developed sports games.
>>335798561
>Wii U:
>>AAA Zelda
>0
>>AAA Mario
>0
>>AAA Metroid
>0
Even Nintendo acknowledges the Wii U is their biggest fuck up in history.
>>335800445
Yeah, the NX will play games in 4K at 120fps!
You'll see! All of you will see!
it's kind of sad seeing nintendo not be relevant at all
>>335800769
at least, that is the message that the majority of the Internet promotes anyway. But I'm having trouble seeing why Nintendo can't continue being relevant, especially now that they're diving into mobile
I wonder if nintendo will be ballsy and have the NX support 4k
They've been slightly behind the curve for a 2 generations, this might be their opportunity to leap ahead.
>>335801326
native 4k gaming in not commercially viable for consoles yet.
>>335801326
>leap ahead
Yeah, until the PS5 and Xtwo come out 2-3 years after the NX.
>>335786560
NX confirmed to be Wii U2 with next to no third party support
>>335801102
>But I'm having trouble seeing why Nintendo can't continue being relevant
Nintendo won't release good games anymore, only quick to shit out cash grabs.
Where's Zelda U? Oh, it's currently going through what Twilight Princess, the worst in the series, went through before it was released. At least we had Hyrule Warriors until the definitive 3DS edition came out I guess.
Where's Metroid? Oh, it's some shitty spin-off for the 3DS without Samus that they're trying to convince us is a real game even though it looks exactly like shovelware, and somehow worse graphically than Hunters
Where's Fire Emblem? Oh, it's being crossed over with SMT and we're getting some Persona X Fire Emblem looking game about idols and high school? And it has nothing to do with with Fire Emblem or SMT.
Where's Star Fox Zero? Oh, you can beat it in five hours and get the best ending, if you can deal with forced and boring gyroscopic controls that are barely responsive
Where's Kirby? Still won't leave the 3DS.
Where's the 3D Mario? Oh, it's just a tech demo with cat suits and Rosalina
Where's Pokemon? Oh, it's some shitty Naruto fighting game featuring a rag tag assortment of Pokemon that nobody gives a shit about
Where's Donkey Kong? Oh, it's just a straight rehash of the Wii game but with Dixie and Cranky and snow levels
We literally just got confirmation that the Wii U is a lost cause, and we're walking away from it with a good Pikmin game that doesn't feel any different from 1 or 2, a good Yoshi game with a cute aesthetic, Bayonetta 2 (barely even a Nintendo game), The Wonderful 101 (not even a Nintendo game), Smash U, and Mario Kart 8.
No real AAA Mario and no real AAA Zelda. For the first time in history, Nintendo just went 0/2. They're not relevant anymore unless the NX is something huge.
>>335786560
I will buy an NX so quick with that logo
>>335802406
Holy shit, that's the worst N64 mod I've ever seen in my life
>>335801763
Not the guy you're replying to but, considering that the PS3 and Xbox 360 are still getting games, do you really think they'll abandon PS4 and Xbone in just a couple of years?
What if we get a 3D Mario game as a launch title?
>>335786560
>NX launches with games this time
>Its long forgotten due to PS4 dominance this gen
I don't think Nintendo can save itself anymore.
>>335802636
Super Mario 64 was a launch title and is regarded as one of the best Mario games of all time
Super Mario Galaxy 2 came out near the end of the Wii's life and is regarded as one of the best Mario games of all time
I don't think it matters when it comes out, as long as it's good
>>335787010
15FPS
![[deathly silence].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q7Mc1B3.jpg "[deathly silence].jpg")
>They'll re-release Sm4sh for NX
>With nothing new, it's literally the same
You know it'll happen
>>335802538
Consoles always continue getting releases after their time has finished, but they're often afterthoughts like with MGSV. Also the previous gen lasted longer than normal due to the worldwide recession.
What does not showing the NX or any footage of NX games at E3 have to do with this shit?
I don't care when the fucking thing is releasing, I want some fuckin' info.
>>335802125
>Nintendo won't release good games anymore, only quick to shit out cash grabs.
not the other guy, i agree somewhat, but i would look at it like this:
Nintendo can't keep up the AAA pace they did previously. Cost of development and the time it takes to make a modern AAA means that no first-party can afford to single-handedly support a console anymore without third parties padding out the release calendar with their own AAAs.
Of course nintendo's entirely at fault here. the Wii U was their chance to match specs and architectures with the others to get third party support and do it with a huge lead. they had the money and enough market presence to get it right but they fucked it up more than anyone else ever has - the wii u is more of a failure than the saturn ever was.
>>335786560
>Nintendo knows what it's doing and delayed the launch so there are more games available.
They say this every gen
>Oh the Gamecube sales have fallen off really bad, its because of he software isn't there to support it, we have learned this lesson
>Oh the N64 sales have fallen off really bad, its because of he software isn't there to support it, we have learned this lesson
>Oh the 3DS sales have fallen off really bad, its because of he software isn't there to support it, we have learned this lesson
>Oh the WiiU sales have fallen off really bad, its because of he software isn't there to support it, we have learned this lesson
>>335802978
JUST LIKE MELEE.
>>335803139
This has nothing to do with Melee
>releases March X 2017
>Both Sony and MS announce a price drop/massive sale on the same day to kill it before it's even out
I guess I'll have to wait a bit more to see it bomb. Going to be entertaining regardless though.
>>335786957
>1080p 60fps remastered ps4 tier graphics for Ocarina of Time
I would buy the NX in a heartbeat if that happened.
>>335802978
Good that means I won't need to buy a Wii U.
That said, Wii U emulation is coming along nicely, so I might not need an NX either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZTvDlQC6VI
>>335803139
Melee was never re released though.
Super Smash Bros. Melee remastered with stable online at 60fps. Who here would buy the NX solely for that?
>>335804050
>buying a system for something that can easily be done for free on a PC
>>335804050
People with autism and FGC rejects who don't have the skill to play SFV, Guilty Gear, or even MKX
I remember reading about Nintendo working on other goals besides consoles.
Something about Nintendo working with DeNA to create mobile app games. This would definitely be interesting if they incorporate some of their vanilla games/characters.
They definitely need to release their older content soon, as a lot of these characters are unknown to the new generation of gamers.
>>335791602
#greatnessawaits
>>335803037
The Saturn wasn't a failure, in Japan it had games and support until 1999. In fact, it had a hell of a lot of games.
>>335805903
Maybe Nintendo got distracted looking into the mobile gaming market and forgot to make any games.
There's a theme park coming too, isn't there?
I'm just saying, maybe Nintendo isn't as great at multitasking as they think. That could explain why releases were so good just two E3s ago but has now fizzled out into budget titles.
>>335786560
>delayed the launch so there are more games available.
So in the mean time, we can play no games all year? Why the fuck didn't they plan this better?
>>335806853
E3 is coming, friendo. You know what most company do at E3, right?
>>335806936
You mean "we're only going to be showing off Zelda shit, which won't be coming out for a year. Hope you didn't buy a Wii U for it! :^)"
>>335786560
>Nintendo
>a new IP
pick one
>delayed the launch so there are more games available
Nintendo knows you shitters will buy the NX even if it doesnt have games, like the Wii U launch and the Wii launch. I womder what the real reason for the delay is.
>>335788046
Hopefully Sony has learned a few lessons from SEGA. Because they're lining themselves up to make the same mistake they did.
>>335807083
>Act like a retard
>Is a retard
Story checks out, happy /v/ browsing
>>335789092
they are totally running from the ps45
>>335807935
>calls people names on a chinese cartoon board
>pretends its an argument
I won't be happy, but I'll try
>>335786956
Nintendo isn't catering to third party. Again.
>>335795654
Playstations and xboxes can launch without exclusives since they're primarily multiplat boxes, which is fine for the average consumer (most gamers).
>>335789573
>Armored Core 2
>DOA2
>Dynasty Warriors 2
>Midnight Club
>SSX
>Tekken Tag
>Time Splitters
back in the day where you had to choose what game or 2 to buy at launch
>>335788931
This is why I love Donald
A new 3d Mario title is likely. That, Zelda, possibly Retro's newest title and a selection of Wii U ports like Smash and Splatoon and I can honestly see the console having a really good launch.
PEOPLE ARE DELUSIONAL ENOUGH TO BELIEVE NINTENDO HAS MORE DECENT WII U GAMES DESPITE ZELDA BEING THE ONLY ONE PLAYABLE AND IT'S NOT EVEN RELEASING IN 2016.
>>335802978
>it'll be the definitive addition with all the dlc
Not buying any of the dlc paid off in the end for me.
