https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i92rgRDT0lI
Thoughts?
>>335784813
It's wave based shit with slow and shitty meme ''glory kills'''that make ammo management a joke.
The shoehorned weapon upgrade system doesn't add anything and feels forced as fuck.
The music is wubwub cancer and monsters are fucking pinatas.
It tries to appeal everyone and fails at everything.
Looks like shit. Bullet sponge enemies, boring weapos, executions for health pickups... no ty
>>335784813
Oh look, it's shit, the music is shit, the shit that the enemies drop is shit, the brutal doom kill shit is shit. It's just shit.
I'm not surprised.
>>335784813
Turn off the UI, amp up the difficulty, and it looks like a fun game
I almost vomited with seeing the first QTE execution.
>Jumping
>Melee glow
>Melee in general
>Grenades
>Stairs
>Soundtrack is muted when swapping weapons
As much as the player switches his weapons like a spastic in an attempt to make the game look fast, the game still looks slow and boring
>>335784813
I remember there was always that one faggot in comments saying, "DURR! You don't have to do glory kills!"
Well guess fucking what? This game rewards you more ammo, health, and armor drops for their QTE melee kills so now l'm forced to fucking do it. I mean, why wouldn't you do it if you're guaranteed more health? The novelty of melee kills will end fast with you stopping every 2 seconds to watch the QTE. Fuck DOOM 4.
>>335785136
>Fuck DOOM 4.
Doom*
>making a gameplay video of doom
>using a gamepad
>>335785180
>playing on second lowest difficulty
Their game isdoomedto fail
>>335785227
T b h anyone not playing this on Ultraviolence first day is a scrub, thats the canon difficulty
It looks like fun. I'm not sure about buying it, but I'd rent it or pirate it to try it out.
But then again, I'm not incredibly well-versed in how a "proper Doom" should look.
Looks like a good FPS, but not a good DOOM game
>>335785168
D44M*
>>335785320
good compared to modern fps sure but that isn't saying much at all...
The level design's so damn generic and tame. Doom 3 did a better job than this.
>>335785271
Boy, i can't wait to slowly lumber around massive bullet sponges. Only to realize the only effective way to play through levels will be abusing the QTE executions on everything.
>>335785136
>now l'm forced to fucking do it
no you're not.
>>335785073
>>335785136
>QTE
While I understand and agree with your complaint, the executions aren't QTEs. They're just single button prompts.
>>335785180
it was made for consoles tho
its expected
Is Doom 64 worth playing through? Please respond.
>>335785432
yes
>>335785432
Not really but compared to this, yeah. Just make sure you do that glitch that makes you FAST.
>>335785427
Oh, so it's a dead franchise, good to know.
>>335785418
if you want health and ammo yes
>>335785432
yes, you can use doom64EX
>>335785432
Doom 64 is the true sequel to Doom 2. Get the full conversion PC port to enjoy mouse aiming.
>>335785463
>>335785473
>>335785495
>>335785509
Thanks guys.
remove the executions, make it harder and faster and it could be fun i guess
slow paced modernized consolized cancer
i dont like getting health pickups off killing monsters. id rather have the health packs u pick up off the ground. this made you really be careful in the original doom. the fear was part of the experience. seems like pandering to casuals, i hope you can mod it
>>335785432
It's what Doom 3 should have been
>>335784813
Dan doesn't really look like something I'd enjoy. Ah well.
>>335784813
It looks like what Diablo 3 would look like if it was first person. Why does it have this chibi-esque, haunted mansion 2spooky vibe going for it right now? Where Doom3 attempted to make things dark and gritty, DOOM16 has fucking cobwebs strewn throughout the whole game and these soft looking monsters
>>335785675
You dont even really need to do them since they drop ammo with or without them
Really its juat about having more agressive enemies, but IIRC they were playing on Hurt Me Plenty, and difficulties go up to Ultra Nightmare
>>335784813
Growing up with Doom, and I mean the actuaal Doom not BrutalDoom or whatever, this looks like fun but too fast. I have no goddamn clue where everyone is coming up with it being too slow or how Doom was always fast. I never got that impression back in like 92.
But then again I'm really not the audience here. They want balding 20 somethings that wear tight pants and horn rimmed glasses, not 30 somethings that remember a world without the internet. So whatever works I guess.
>>335784813
>demo played with a controller
>and he plays like ass
why are devs keep doing this
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>335785102
>>Soundtrack is muted when swapping weapons
Only if you plan on playing with a controller
Looks and sounds like ass. I expected nothing less.
>>335784813
>peashooters
dropped
>>335785420
And few RPGS are actually role playing games. its a QTE by definition of the term. You run up, you get a prompt, and if you press it, you get positive feedback.
>>335784813
Quality over Quantity as far as enemy design is concerned is not acceptable. I don't want to take on one enemy at a time. Also enemy design sucks aside from the Baron of Hell. Executions are stupid and are used as a crutch for improper level design and ammo placement.
DOOM was never about aiming. It was about dodging projectiles, picking targets, and using your weapons in creative ways. I don't want to hunt down and pin down every imp. I want to kill three of them in a row with a well placed super shotgun hit from the proper angle.
they keep talking about "lore"
>>335786048
How often do difficulty levels affect AI behavior in FPSs and not just bump up their health or damage dealt to the player?
>>335786082
People who think its too slow are idiots who will use a speedrunning video as evidence when they themselves play nowhere near on that level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2gQQUjx3j8
>implying anybody will care about this modernized garbage for longer than a month while the real DOOM games are still going fairly strong after 20 years
>>335786205
We'll have to play the game to find out, in Doom4s case.
Interesting though, I notice in the monster codexs they had levels to them, and I saw an armored variation of one enemy during some Mars footage. So im thinking the higher level the enemy the more defense and attack capabilities they have.
They put alot of thought into the weapon mods and functionality while balancing it with the wheel, so im anticipating something similar with the enemies too.
The game looks good but it didn't need to have the Doom name associated. They said they made Doom for 2016, which is a fair point, but it has other focus points than the original Doom, making it too different gameplay wise.
They could've started a new IP, but that probably wouldn't sell.
It has different mechanics that most shooters of today, which is nice though
>>335786082
I take it you never found out how to sprint.
>>335784813
i'll leave this here
>>335786082
If you cant see the speed difference I dont know what to tell you, maybe you are too old to notice.
>ok, art team. i want you to design a level that takes place in fucking hell. do you have any ideas?
>how about ancient ruins with blood everywhere
>brilliant
how can anyone be this creatively-bankrupt?
>>335786327
id's heart and soul have gone into the negative zone at this point
>>335786327
Standard procedure to me
But I forget yoy children dont know anythingg about how business works. You dont dump millions into a project without ensuring a solid return.
Besides, at least they made a point of remaining faithful to the series as much as possibel. And the only really bad thing about F3 was the main story, nobody misses the old games.
>>335786327
>faithful to other games in the series
>Fallout 3 as an example
O-okay, thanks
>>335784813
>Thoughts
It looks slow to a stifling degree. Player and enemy movement speed need to be at least doubled.
Too much consolitis in general. I understand everything has to be slowed down to be playable on a controller, but I think it's safe to say the PC version is going to be a straight port and just as slow.
>>335786206
Makes sense. I remember playing games in the snow, uphill both ways with duct tape for shoes. Now kids don't even play games, they watch them.
Someone pull an Old Yeller on me already.
Shitty fps, bad graphics, slow as fuck, generic music
0/10 would no go to hell
>>335786082
How the fuck do people like you exist?
How can you just lie so easily?
>>335786327
>fallout 3 expertise
my sides
>>335785481
Doom was dead long ago
This shit right now is a profanation of its corpse, bethesda pulling the corpse like a puppeteer pulls strings in hopes of luring people through the old fame it earned long ago
>>335786442
Fuck you.
>3 SHOTGUN BLASTS TO A CACAO JUST SO YOU CAN MELEE IT TO DEATH
Yeah no fuck this, I'm out. Bet the higher difficulties aren't actually harder either just crank up those HP numbers even more. The only mobs that should feel tough are mobs designed to be like those Werebulls in Serious Sam, most other things die pretty fucking fast.
>>335786442
Lordy, viral apologists, pls go
>>335786409
i hope there are more levels that are completely absract and disgusting
even the original had walls made of intestines and stuff
>>335786613
Breh i wish i was getting paid for shitting on the hivemind
>>335784975
Yah, and enemies drop health when you kill them with executions, so it really isnt all that different from regen health for practical purposes.
>>335786584
looks likes everything revolves around the glory kills, all the bigger guys seems to have a fuckton of health, only to get the glory kill at the end
>>335786656
>defending ZeniMax
>shitting on the hivemind
pick one
Please tell me you can turn off that shitty finisher glow.
>>335786442
>nobody misses the old games.
I would kill you if I could get away with it, you piece of shit.
>>335784813
I swear to god they should have gotten machinegames to make it. they would have made something awesome
>>335786504
It's basically bethesda/zenimax need something to compete with halo and cod
they own the doom ip now so it's a no brainer buisness wise
>>335786164
That's not a QTE
>>335784813
Jesus fuck it looks boring as hell. You move slow as molasses, the weapons don't have any strength to them, the level design is basic as fuck, the enemies drop lots of colorful stuff when they explode like if they were fucking pinatas and all those takedowns only serve to make the gameplay even slower.
Dead. On. Arrival.
>>335786721
actually you can
>>335784813
Meh, I'll wait for Shadow Warrior 2
>>335786721
Even if you can you would still be playing a game where the devs think gay ass fuck finishers are a good idea
>>335786742
I could get away with it, but I couldn't kill him. Let's team up.
>>335784813
I haven't even played DOOM and I feel like part of my childhood was raped
>>335785495
You're not forced
>>335784813
>A whooping amount of three enemies on screen simultaneously
>Worse AI than the original Doom (Enemies constantly have trouble turning to face you)
>Peashooter weapons
>Enemies drop all the health, armor and ammo you need
>Takedowns
>Double jumping
The true successor™ to Doom
I'm glad I expected nothing to begin with.
>>335786206
I wonder what Pee Aye Are stands for....
>>335786584
What happens if you don't use a glory kill when it's stunned? Does it just get back up?
Also 3 SSG shots is the same as the original IIRC
>minigun
>overheat
Wow, looks fun!
>>335784813
It's like a parody except it's real.
>>335786865
That's just for the triple chaingun mode.
The regular chaingun mode has a "wind up" mechanic.
I heard there's a third mode for that but it will probably be equally shitty
>>335785136
You only get more rewards if you have a rune equipped made for it.
It was in the hour long footage they showed and they explained it that it is the rune that makes more pinata prizes and the runes are only health/ammo/armor rather than all at once.
>>335786869
That's exactly what I'm thinking whenever I see this game
>>335785271Ultraviolence is locked until you beat the game once
>>335786721
You can turn off almost anything, and alter FOV at will which is a surprise.
>>335786858
Yup
Also no mate, 2 at close range
Too slow, too many pop ups on screen, hate this HUD. Looks like Halo: Demons Edition.
>>335786082
Dumbass. Doom was extremely fast paced and just because your piece of shit junker computer couldn't run it past 5 fps back in the day doesn't mean it was a slow game.
>>335784813
This is the definition of a console fps.
>>335784813
Make it 75% faster, remove melee and you might have something playable.
does the game really have less enemy variety than fucking doom 2?
>Not getting Phil and whoever remains from Pantera to do the instrumentals
Fucking useless desu
>>335786993
Dude that's my thoughts exactly. The game looks like a darker version of Halo.
>>335786721
You can turn off the game.
>>335787059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzrVtioigo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYzbl6lewk
>>335786993
you can disable every hud element and popups
>>335787035
from the wiki
Archvile
Baron of Hell
Cacodemon
Cyber-mancubus
Cyberdemon
Hell knight
Hell razer
Imp
Lost soul
Mancubus
Pinky
Possessed
Revenant
Spectre
The Unwilling
>>335787059
those guys are probably living dead from all the drugs and shit by now, they certainly can't produce anything of quality
>>335787205
Would probably be better than the literal shit crapped out for this
>>335787246
the music is the least of all the problems toot has
>>335787246
>Mick Gordon
>shit
So many plebs identifying themselves ITT
>>335787205
Then hook up with something better. I'd rather be jamming Disturbed than this garbage. Its fucking doom, damn it, and for as long as that's going to mean something, I'm going to repeat it.
>>335786128
Dont kid yourself, it´s going to be that way on pc too.
They will give you a weapon wheel even if you play with a keyboard and mouse.
>>335787337
>Disturbed
jesus fuck, how horrible can someone's taste be?
you really shouldn't talk about music at all
This somehow manages to look worse than Doom 3.
Man this looks lame. Just unexciting. I'll wait to pass final judgement but it appears that it's all icing and no cake. Kind of sweet at first but just makes you feel shitty after a short while.
I forgot that DOOM is known for great music such as shitty industrial while a retard fiddles with a guitar
>>335787401
you can switch weapons without the wheel
>>335784813
>Still shilling this garbage
>>335787465
Yea lets discuss how ripped loops of 80s metal converted into MIDI are on the same level as Bach
I bet you think Vaporwave is the best shit ever you fucking fool
Man I was really hoping this would be good. I even got a fair amount of enjoyment out of Doom 3 but this is just another step down.
>>335787059
>>335787337
time for bed dad, you can listen to your ultra hardcore music in the morning
>>335787553
>Doom only had metal songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETV9fPmieOM
Fuck off
>>335787059
>Not getting Treznor to do the music
Hang yourself.
>>335787613
Isn't it past your bed time kid?
>>335787668
Dooms OST is primarily metal rips, stop trying
The new OST even makes use of chorale so dont even try to say "muh variety"
>>335787703
if you didn't grow out of listening to metal after high school, I'm so sorry for you
>>335787613
Go to bed jimbo
Why don't nostalgiafags just go play classic doom?
>>335786303
>It has different mechanics that most shooters of today
Like what, shooting your gun? Jumping? Dedicated grenade button? Qte´s? Upgrade system?
It looks like a run of the mill shooter with a grim dark look, nothing about it is original. .
>>335787401
This is something that doesn't even happen in the shittiest of ports. You can always use numbers to switch weapons in PC games.
>>335787784
Who's saying we're not? Doesn't mean you can't judge this obviously lazy garbage.
>>335787784
because everyone who has wanted to literally has for the past 20+ years
>>335787759
I'm sorry but 'tay tay' and this vaporwave non music shit doesn't count as real music.
Metal might be shit tier in the end, but it's music at least, the same cannot be said for any of the shit you listen to.
>>335787751
The metal to non-metal ratio is about half. And some songs have guitar in them without being chugga chugga bullshit (E1M8)
t. guy who works on WADs as a musician
>>335787848
You're judging it for what it's not, not for what it is
>>335785136
Actually, ammo drops only if you use the chainsaw, which pretty much replenishes all your guns.
>>335787903
And what it is is produced by ZeniMax
>mfw "press X to execute demon"
Not doom, get this casual shit out of here
>>335787880
how are metalfags still so quick to take any bait thrown to them? you fags really never grow out of that edgy phase do you?
>>335787903
We're judging it for both being a piece of shit and for being doom only in name
>>335787987
Because it's the only genre still worth a damn.
Even classical is being overrun by derivative wankers like John Williams.
I'm not even that much of a metalhead, I wish someone would make some decent hard rock again, but they don't.
>>335787880
>non music
>real music
>at least its music
people still say these things? metalfags truly never change, or grow up
>>335788070
dadrocker please go
>>335788070
Most metal fucking dogshit and there are certainly other genres worth looking at
T. Guy who listened to mostly metal for over 9 years
This looks awful
>>335788146
No.
>>335788165
Depends on what you listen to.
Let me completely alienate myself from the group - Devin Townsend > Everyone currently making music
>>335788169
>dumb animeposter thinks his opinion is worth shit
>>335788070
maybe if you actually looked for more music you'd find some. There's literally hundreds of fantastic bands releasing great music every year, but you just stick your head in the sand and listen to the same infantile garbage like That Kid in middle school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdMz7BUtOvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagCKe2Au8E
those are just two recent examples
>>335788210
devin townsend is a fucking faggot and you're sucking his dick
>>335788236
>reddit still triggered by anime
Loving every laugh.
>>335788070
every genre ever has good and shit music, get out of your special snowflake metal bubble, theres thousands of garbage metal bands
>>335788284
Kek this
>wrong generation metal nerds still exist on 4chan
Is it 2011 again?
>>335784813
I figured out what bothers me so much about the way this game looks. It looks like a game you'd see on a TV show, something a team of interns came up with to show that the characters are playing a "super violent" game, but not so super violent that it can't be shown on TV.
Thge real tragedy is that devs once again think Doom is all about mindless killing, and not the great balance between Action, Suspense and Exploration.
The future of Doom is an all-release no-tension killfest with chugga chugga chugga metal and Epic QTEs For The Win.
>>335788378
>implying we ever left
>implying we didn't build this site and aren't coming to claim it back.
Super Eurobeat fags can stay, everyone else go back to feddet.
Its worse than we thought
looks shit and old fashioned
>>335788070
>m-m-muh metal and hard rock
get off 4chan dad
>>335788463
Yea, the levels themselves were like puzzles that you had to solve while surviving
Thank god theres Snapmap
I dont care
The game should have been horror fps like doom 3, you can't make a better game than doom 2 with all the mods it has to offer
so am I just misunderstanding what's shown in this video, or does this game make no sense? It starts out with the player following a checkpoint to a big drop into this dungeon area. The next checkpoint is on this teleporter thing that has a cage around it, so it seems he has to kill all the monsters to open it up. He fails at this and dies. When he respawns, the cage lifts on the teleporter and he enters it, only to be teleported to a spot in the area he had already been running around when he was killing monsters to open the teleporter. What the fuck is the point of making that teleporter a checkpoint thing if it only leads to an area you can already access without it?
>>335788507
>caring
>>335788481
>Super Eurobeat
you're alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woIFVl_mt20
Holy shit some of the weakest and worst weapon sounds I have ever fucking heard
>>335788561
They can't even make a faithful recreation of E1M2 with it
>>335788517
(you)
>>335787434
I wouldn't listen to Rules of Nature on my Ipod, either fuckass, but it fits what's going on screen.
I have never seen a more wimpy shotgun in a FPS.
Even the one in Doom 3 with that shitty stock sound effect has more impact.
>>335788642
>I wouldn't listen to Rules of Nature on my Ipod
Why not? Do you have fun?
>>335784813
I swear, he was faster in the E3 demo.
How does this even happen? Why is he only fighting one enemy at a time? Where's the speed? Why is there a slowdown when you're picking weapons from a console weapon wheel? Why the fuck is he music so shit? Why are there mission objectives?
Jesus Christ, this isn't DOOM.
>>335788594
Why are you here if you don't give a shit about games
>>335788693
Because Red Sun
>>335787337
>Disturbed
are you 12?
>can't pick up shards when at full armour
wew lads
Well at least is not as shitty as the multiplayer
Still:
>Revenant
>Takes 4 rockets to the face to die
damn son
>>335788704
Theyre playing on easy mode
>>335788663
They're airsoft guns. Can't you see the scary enemies are actually pinatas? In this game you're a 10 year old in Halloween.
>>335788507
>>335786110
It's easier to setup ; )
pretty much quoted like that
>>335788717
>not The Only Think I Know For Real
>>335784813
Who the fuck came up with the idea of audio logs for the demons in hell!
>>335788773
>They're airsoft guns. Can't you see the scary enemies are actually pinatas? In this game you're a 10 year old in Halloween.
Honestly from everything we've seen so far I would no be at all surprised if that turned out to be the "twist" of the campaign. This game looks like what a current 13 year old thinks Doom is.
>>335788768
That only answers one of his questions at most.
>>335784813
Looks like it could be decent fun, certainly looks better than the new wolfenstein game
>>335788864
TNO was fucking excellent you nerd
>>335784813
With consoles involved theres no way in hell this game would have ended anyway like the original doom.
>>335788836
The rest are kinda garbage
>>335788864
The New Order and The Old Blood were both fantastic. They're examples of how you do an old series justice in the modern gaming industry.
>>335788901
Boring enemy and weapon variety, only memorable level was the space one
It was ok but certainly not excellent
>finishers
>checkpoints
>objective markers
>those fucking retarded weapon models that take up the entire screen
>character is taking a leisurely jog through hell
>enemies do fucking nothing half the time
>it takes the player rubbing up against a mancubus to even come close to dying
it's like they tried to merge a whole bunch of doom mods with halo and failed at that
i know, >brutal doom, but even brutal doom's executions and dismemberment feels more satisfying than whatever jank that was.
also why the fuck objective markers
first off it's doom - do you even need distinct objectives? second, remember how quake 2 had objectives, but left you to find that shit on your own?
what the fuck happened.
>>335786584
>Bet the higher difficulties aren't actually harder either just crank up those HP numbers even more.
it's bethesda so this is pretty much guaranteed
>>335788901
TNO is a fucking shit, kys.
>>335785271
I agree wholeheartedly with your statement but Hurt Me Plenty is the canon difficulty.
Everyone keeps calling it Halo but it seriously reminds me of Borderlands.
>>335789067
Memes included
>>335788987
>>335789041
>>335788864
how to have a shitty opinion: the post
>>335789067
Halo has a hell of a lot more going for it than this
>>335784813
I want to like this game, but Bethesda is making it hard. The evironments look cool, but the gameplay is slower than doom 3. Where as doom 3 had a change of ideas to be more horror based with less demons to fight, this has the speed of 3 with the same amount of enemies as the originals.
Why.
>>335789041
Congrats on having no taste, I guess.
>load from checkpoint
This game has quicksave, right?
>>335788901
>>335788973
No it was average at best, it had a bunch of problems all all the modern bullshit attached that kept it from being good
if it was just shooting nazis the whole time instead of pointless exposition and cutscenes (that were well done at least) it would have been much better
beat it twice on uber btw
>>335789098
feel free to make an argument
I did not play Doom 1 and 2 all that much, but I thought the appeal was hordes of demons coming at you. In contrast, this video showed few enemies. In fact, I remember Halo having more enemies that what was showed on the video.
Why does the Hell Knight look like a zombie from Half-Life 2?
The slow shitty console gameplay, the achievement popups, the quest markers, the terrible visual design, the constant checkpoints, ..
I was one of those "maybe the SP will be good" retards but wow this is worse then I ever imagined. Literally your typical banal console FPS shit für 12 years olds, marketed as "old school". Pathetic.
I thought it would be impossible but modern developers somehow managed to top the Fallout franchise raping.
>>335789065
UV is the only way to play since it has the max monster count
>>335789210
Exploration is more appealing than shooting shit. If you want to shoot shit serious sam or painkiller is for you
I am going to buy this Doom just like I did with 1, 2, ultimate, and 3.
And I will enjoy it.
That upsets you doesn't it?
>>335789295
>buy
why
the multiplayer looks like a real clusterfuck
>>335789295
It mostly just makes me believe you're retarded.
>>335789295
Ignorance is bliss.
>>335789271
Alright, but wasn't Doom 1 and 2 about shooting hordes of demons (shooting shit) and not exploring?
>>335789271
Even Sam had exploration
It's like they just took the name Doom so it would sell, there's literally no Doom in that video
>>335789295
>enjoy it
good luck with that
>>335789295
That's cool, I hope you do end up having a good time with it. I wish it looked like something I want to play, but for me it just doesn't look or feel like Doom, so I'm gonna pass.
>>335789295
Mind telling me why you will enjoy it?
It's not hard Bethesda.
Even an old Doom 3 mod did it better than you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aguUHuzar1I
>>335784813
>impact compensation
>impact compensation
>impact compensation
This message serves no purpose. This is the absolute worst part of an already fucked up HUD.
>>335789398
Doom and to an even greater extent Doom 2 were the games that basically pioneered labyrinthine map design in first-person games. Some Doom 2 maps are still very easy for me to get lost in, despite having played them dozens of times over the last 20 years.
>reticle totally off target when firing rockets
>they hit anyway
>>335784813
I wouldn't even be that mad that they turned this into generic modern shooter if the amount of enemies in single "arena" was decent. There is around 5/6 enemies per wave, which is a joke when compared to things like Serious Sam or Painkiller.
>>335789173
Can't bind that to a hotkey on a controller :^)
>>335789398
>wasn't
you can go and play the games right now, you know
>>335789457
>This message serves no purpose
I can almost guarantee it's to let you know you have some upgrade that reduces or eliminates fall damage.
>>335789404
Barely any compared to doom or games like heretic, hexen, shadow warrior etc
SS and painkiller are just completely different type of games
>>335784813
Gameplay-wise looks like an average early 00's pre-HL2 shooter. It's alright, I've missed those.
>>335789560
why would anyone play old games? They're old and shitty.
>>335789651
Doom is probably the most accessible old game there is
>>335789253
I never once disagreed with that statement. Infact I personally get bored on lower difficulties.
However, John Romero built his levels around Hurt Me Plenty though. That is the canon difficulty.
Headcanon is the word you're looking for. In which case I share the exact same thoughts.
>>335784813
This actually looks like shit for real.
>>335789116
>the same amount of enemies as the originals.
No
Just no
>>335789492
>Doom and to an even greater extent Doom 2 were the games that basically pioneered labyrinthine map design in first-person games
What? That's not remotely true even for first-person real-time games. Dungeon Crawlers existed long before Doom. Dungeon Master cam out 5 years before.
And Wizardry came out over 10 years before.
There are probably a hundred earlier examples.
>>335789435
I can kill demons with a shotgun.
>>335789116
>the gameplay is slower than doom 3
But that's fucking wrong. I love Doom 3 but that game is slow as shit, have you even played it?
>>335789702
no the levels were tested on UV from pistol start
>>335784813
>ps4 footage
i'll wait for pc
>>335784813
what are the monsters shitting out when they die? health?
Looks worse than Rage.
>>335789453
You are completely deluded beyond saving if this honestly seems better to you than the new Doom. I'm actually amazed you found something worse than what Bethesda could shit out.
>>335785180
>1996+20
>still expecting average players are this autistic
hope your supa-mouse and mechanic keyboard are fine
>>335789801
what do dungeon crawlers have to do with FPS
>>335789295
No, I don't really bother at all to be honest, unlike many of the neet losers out here who just love to gawk and moan over others bank account.
Although, I am wondering how big of an impact will SnapMap have on the long run, over community mods....that was my only expectation for it to be honest, a good set of mod tools.
it looks fucking great and its mothercucking doom
how are people not hyped? i mean its DOOOM
>>335788774
collectible icon looks like some funkopop trash, jesus christ
Is the level design going to be any good?
>>335789950
Hello Bethesda shill, how's that infighting mechanic coming along... oh wait.
>>335790007
>Perform a "Death from Above" Glory Kill on a Baron of Hell (attack from above).
>>335789987
Nothing but that guy mentioned "first-person games" in general.
>>335790104
Probably the same shit as in TNO, you can just ignore it
>>335784813
Looks great. Look forward to playing it.
>that awful FOV
>that shitty hud
>that boring music
>that colorless world
>everything glows, enemies glow, pickups glow
>"quest" marker
>>335789840
Pistol start is correct. Ultra-Violence is incorrect. The only difficulty not tested was nightmare.
The levels were not designed around Ultra-Violence and you are wrong for stating such a silly and factually incorrect thing. I am no longer responding to you as you are being a tryhard faggot.
>>335789892
Also ammo
>>335790305
Don't ever respond to me or my wife's son ever again.
>>335789993
Because it's SLOOOOW.
SP, whatever.
MP - un-fucking-acceptable.
Look I'm not even mad that casual plebs can't play the fast game and that Beth might make the slow game standard, but no modifier for a faster movement speed and firing rate (per server) is simply unacceptable.
UT4 is FREE, FUCKING FREE, not even 'f2p' shit it's open sores...
It has modifiers, like every UT ever.
i know modifiers waren't a DOOM thing, but considering the low speed, they could have given us the option.
2/10 no buy as it is.
Beth if your reading, add modifiers/mutators, game would be 8/10 MP GOTY if you did.
>>335790053
I just insulted Bethesda and this shit excuse for a Doom installment that I won't be buying and you somehow think I'm shilling.
Completely deluded beyond saving is right then.
>>335790280
>colorless world
but the environment is red, grey, and green. That's hardly colorless.
>>335790387
no one gives a shit about multiplayer, arena shooters are dead go jack off to ut4
>>335790393
Yeah I also hate this new game and I think Doom 3 was worse so I'll let them know that by pre-ordering this new game.
That'll show them how us true Doom gamers like our doomy doom.
