Is anyone actually buying this shitfest? i dont know any irl people getting it so i wont get it.
i asked my old tf2 hl buddies and they laughed it off. No reason to take a blizz game seriously when it'll die before christmas, they said.
that besides, i dont think the gameplay warrants a competitive future. there's no way to know if the enemy has an ult ready/ some ults are barely noticeable to unnoticeable, so you end up dying for what feels like is something you had no control over.
but aparently tf2 had a minor update and now everyone is playing degroot keep and tc_hydro?? Maybe i'll start playing tf2 again, but /v/fortress got fucked and tide wasted 75 dollars on some server /v/ wont use
>>335762940
Basically all i'm saying is that overwatch just doesnt fill the niche tf2 would for me. you are all free to enjoy the game how you wish
I'll play it when it goes free to play. It probably won't be worth anything.
Get unreal tournament, a game that takes skill
f2p was a mistake for tf2
they should have made it competitive sooner
>>335762940
I dont buy B2P online only, Multiplayer only, games THAT ALSO have a fucking cash shop.
>>335762940
tf2 is dead and overwatch will nail the coffin shut i will miss tf2 but it is time it died
ill wait until it goes F2P
>>335763210
>random spazlord jumpspamming and pray n spraying
>skilled
W E W
E..E..E
W E W
Are there people who literally, honestly, seriously, genuinely play shit like TF2 to be competitive? If you want to be a tryhard MLG pro, play another game. Overwatch, like TF2, is dumb fun. I agree that it won't have the staying power that TF2 will, but to shrug the game off because you don't think it "warrants a competitive future" is retarded. And personally, I'm more worried about the opposite. Blizzard has been trying to capture the esports scene since SC2 flopped and I'm sure they will try to make this shit competitive.
>>335762940
>i dont know any irl people
>>335763245
F2p was great for tf2. the only thing f2p fucked up was the hat economy. right now a key is around 18 refined. a long time ago when I played, you could get a key for 1.33 refined. Metal is worthless now.
If you're getting upset over children and beaners,
You know you can mute the mic in pubs right? The only thing i care about are the automated calls like MEDIC! anyway
>>335763572
Tf2 is great competitively. there aren't too many asymmetrical multiplayer games that are balanced and as long as you play 6s or highlander, the game is balanced. Both teams have a demo. both teams have a soldier. both teams have etc. It's balance through symmetry.
also they use nospread in compettive tf2 so some hitscan weapons don't have rng like in cs:go.
the skill ceiling is pretty high particularly if you play soldier or demo since you need to learn jumps/speedjumps and stuff.
>>335763210
I recognizee your sentiment but you're coming off stupid.
>>335762940
i have a group of friends that really excited about Battleborn, but show little interest in this. so i guess im getting Battleborn.
>>335763276
The shop is purely for cosmetic shit.
>>335765579
here comes the blizzard defense force.
It doesnt matter what they're selling in it. It shouldnt exist in the first place. I have to BUY the game, then the skins should be unlockable by playing. You dont get to have BOTH a required purchase AND a microtransaction shop.
>>335766250
>I have to BUY the game, then the skins should be unlockable by playing.
They are unlockable by playing though.
>Correcting misinformation
>HE MUST BE A BLIZZDRONE
>>335766250
the only way of unlocking skins right now is trough playing
I'll probably buy it after the open beta. I just don't have any interesting shooters to play and I know the game will be supported for years at least.
>>335766474
Wrong. They'll be sold in a cash shop too.
>>335766405
>b-b-b-but you can get a random box that MAY contain something like a skin, but it will take you 2 months of grinding per crate.
If you thought grinding in heroes of the storm was bad, you're in for a surprise.
>>335766941
The grinding could be an issue of its own certainly. I'm not a fan of the idea, but that does not change that what you stated prior was false.
>>335767076
Except nothing I stated was false.
Why are you defending a shit company shekeling you with microtransactions in a fucking arena shooter that isnt even F2P?
>>335762940
>there's no way to know if the enemy has an ult ready
Legitimate comment that should be treated. As of right now the only strategy is to predict them and
avoid all damage possible.
>some ults are barely noticeable to unnoticeable
As far as I know all of them have a global message.
>>335767328
I'm not "defending" anything, I am correcting a statement that you made. You said that the skins weren't unlockable by playing, however they are. Who plays or does what is irrelevant here. Moreover the shop is not vital to my enjoyment of the game. Characters and maps are free, I don't need anything else. Cosmetics in an FPS are pointless anyway.
But the entire meme is that Blizzard games never die. Look at WoW and Hearhstone and Starcraft.
I think you all need to grow up and just try the game. It's gonna be free to test. Why the fuck do you have to bash it? Try it, then talk about it. Who cares who made it or what people are saying?
I honestly doubt anyone who browses /v/ enjoys games at all, because they sure sound like they try really hard not to.
>>335762940
what does this have that's equal to hats?
>>335762940
>No reason to take a blizz game seriously
At what point did this shift happen?
>>335766250
>>335767328
>shouldn't exist
Says who? You? Why are you so angry about a game you wont play and the grinding or lack thereof won't effect you?
You get "crates" every time your global profile levels up so there's incentive to keep playing. Then you reach a cap, reset it and then get more drops.
or you could spend $10 and get them.
Who cares nigger?
>>335762940
>asking me to spend money on MP games
>2011 + 5
>>335766250
You can only unlock skins by playing. You're literally retarded.
Why do people talk about games they clearly know nothing about? Holy shit just go play it and then judge it.
>there's no way to know if the enemy has an ult ready/ some ults are barely noticeable to unnoticeable
Everyone screams their ult like a shonen protag, what are you talking about?
>>335767867
Don't try to get a bunch of anonymous kids to try and sabotage some shitters youtube channel, that's fucked up.
This game is a lot of fun. I know the modern Hi/v/emind will call me a shill for this, because you fucks are a worse echo chamber than reddit is.
Its not meant to be a crazy, competitive game (if it is, they will fail at it). But it's silly fun that you play with friends, like tf2 was.
>>335767593
And I am right. the skins arent unlockable by playing.
Crates with random loot are unlockable by playing, and they contain a random item, which MAY be a skin.
Which isnt the same as a skin being unlocked for the character you're playing by completing an achievement for said character.
>>335767786
>who cares
Everyone who isnt a blizzard polesmoking fanboy or a gullible goyim
>you get crates
the crates contain mostly junk like sprays, which are also sold for real money :^)
>every time you level
And you level slow as fuck. It makes leveling a character in HotS look like sonic fast.
>who cares
see the first
>>335767964
Nope, you unlock crates that have a 3% chance of containing a skin :^)
>>335762940
Now way I'm paying paying $40 for it.
Maybe $20
>/v/
>enjoying anything made by blizzard
>enjoying anything
lol
nobody posts here seriously anymore, it's just children pretending to ruse each other and thinking they're clever and spouting memes
99% of the posts in this thread haven't even played the game
lmao
i love how mad kids get about blizzard, because blizzard games always become massively popular like hearthstone and wow and then /v/ can't enjoy it anymore
the game's great, i had fun in the betas, preordered it
>>335768309
>10 cents has been deposited into your account
>>335768262
>the skins arent unlockable by playing.
You can get currency from crates.
If you get an item you already have, it automatically converts to currency.
You use the currency to unlock a skin of your choice.
You are a retard.
>>335763210
The arena looks really boring and grey.
>>335768262
In the beta I got about 10 skins within levelling up 14 times.
Either I am a god of RNG or you are full of shit and an absolute faggot.
"skins aren't unlockable by playing"
"crates with random loot are unlockable by playing, and they contain a random item, which may be a skin"
are you fucking retarded?
that means a skin is unlockable by playing. Just not a direct link. Holy fuck.
>>335762940
I was on the fence but I played last beta and thoroughly enjoyed it. I can't remember the last time I got hooked to a game that was not progression based nor story driven. Maybe counter strike source? Overwatch is about the gameplay first, I like the idea of being able to jump into a match and not have to dedicate lots of time to the game but still have it be skill based and competitive if you choose to be.
Beta definitely sold me on it and I suggest trying it in the open beta next week.
>>335766941
>Wrong. They'll be sold in a cash shop too.
[citation needed]
>>335768262
Yes the skins are obtainable by playing. Source: Someone that has actually played the game. I don't give a rat's ass if you aren't interested in the game or dislike Blizzard, all I care about is the truth, and what you are saying is not it.
>>335768419
>converts into 1 blizzardshekel per dupe item
>need 1k for a skin
:^)
>>335768436
Thats cute, you sad pathological little liar, but crate drops werent enables in the beta, try again next time, blizzshill
I pre-ordered and have yet to get into a beta. I'll see if it's shitty or not in open beta I guess.
The problem with /v/ is that expect every single game to be a 10/10 and if it's not then it's a worthless piece of shit. If I get a few hours a week out of it for 6-12 months then it's worth $40 to me. You guys really need to learn to lower your expectations a bit.
>>335768729
lol
>>335768478
>citation need
retard, blizzard has already admitted they'll be selling skins, sprays, and other shit in the shop :^)
>>335768795
>thing
>prove thing
>lol they already said it :^)
>>335768729
>crate drops werent enabled in the beta
are you fucking retarded lmao
>>335768668
Please tell me how to directly unlock a skin through playing the game. Not some gambling crate scam with abysmal droprates.
Whats that? You cant?
Shocker
>>335768262
quick tip
using :^) gives away the bait really quickly
nah ,but really, kill yourself, you're awful at this
>>335768729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfY_VyWOAFk
>>335768729
>crate drops werent enables in the beta
Woah. Look at that. Me, opening a lootbox. In the beta. Wowzers. I had a bunch of them to open, I saved this one because it was a nice drop.
Why do you lie to people?
>>335768393
ahahaha nice shill meme you showed him!!
i'm gonna post a frogface xD le sad pepe xD!!
>>335768729
>Thats cute, you sad pathological little liar, but crate drops werent enables in the beta, try again next time, blizzshill
Ummm I've logged over 100 hours in OW beta and I got a crate drop every time I leveled
And leveling isn't really that slow
>>335769237
i played for two hours and I got like, 10 crates
stop replying to the shitter
>>335768945
>Moving goalposts
Skin drops are fairly common, for the record, and leveling is pretty fast. I leveled up once every 3-4 games and games are anywhere from 5-10 minutes on average.
>>335769237
>>335769279
10 cents has been deposited onto your battle.net balance.
Use it to buy overwatch crates when the game launches :^)
>>335768795
how is it still not free to play?
>>335769289
even at the XP cap for levels (22000) it never took more then 10-11 games to level up
whats a good game where i can unlock skins
Giving the open beta a shot, but ultimately may not buy it. This and Battleborn feel like games that should of been F2P, but ended up retail price for the developers needs of immediate cash flow. And Battleborn is going to be dead faster that Evolve.
>>335768729
reddit please i know you like meme magic tf2 but honest to god overwatch is 10 times better im sorry you well have a dead game on your hands soon
>>335769451
when is open beta?
>>335769451
do you really wanna play with brazil, or are you brazil?
>>335769497
may 3 if you preordered, 5 if you didn't
>>335769451
Why does everything need to be Free to Play?
>>335769382
xDD
i don't have any funny jew pictures left i'll post a funny gif instead!!!
>>335769382
>lie about the game
>call people who correct you "shills"
What
Why do people compare Valve and Blizzard so much? You can't compare them at all.
Valve isn't even a game dev anymore, you actually have to do more then buy a game mod and add a microtransaction store to it
>>335769451
I like it 40$ for what we get along for everything were going to get in the future isnt as bad as battle born dlc heroes
>>335769497
>>335769562
Also you can invite a friend early if you pre-ordered.
>>335762940
You sound like a tremendous faggot.
>>335769451
i prefeer it over the DLC system f2p games like this get even blizzard did an example of it with HoTS
>>335769625
I don't know a single person who pre ordered
>>335768945
Gambling?
Nah, what happens with CSGO is gambling. This is just random loot drops.
>>335769563
Why does a MP only online only arena shooter with a cash shop need to be B2P?
>>335769518
Not Brazilian, nor do I like the idea of playing with them either. I'm just saying that the F2P system may have improved the longevity of those games.
>>335769497
what said
>>335769562
also if you go on amazon and cancel the order you can play on may 3rd
Donald: TF2 anons
Happy Dancing Man: Overwatch anons
Every single thread.
>>335769706
Hey I preordered overwatch
>>335764162
TF2 6s is only great in the sense that the game is gutted to such an extent that it's made balanced forcefully, e.g. Smash Bros. Melee.
Highlander is fun, but once again, it's forced balance by stating that teams can only have one of each class. What do you think would happen if that rule wasn't there? People would just run Scouts, Soldier, and Demo all day. The class balance in TF2 is terrible.
>>335769687
You're the one choking on my dick though
>>335769717
>CSGO crates are random loot drops
>b-b-b-but muh blizzcrates are different, they're a speshiul kind of random loot drops
>>335769706
Well then I'd suggest keeping an eye out on the /vg/ thread on the third. I'm sure there'll be someone there who has no friends.
>>335762940
>overwatch is shit thread
>overwatch is good thread
>overwatch is shit thread
>overwatch is good thread
fuck can we stop having these threads already? Shit's getting tiresome already. You'd think the shitposters or the shills would get tired but then there's people on here that actually wish to voice their opinion on THIS board, as if people ACTUALLY fucking care.
>ctrl+f "porn"
>ctrl+f "sfm"
>0 results
so you're telling me people actually care about the game?
>>335769725
A multiplayer game with potentially hundreds of hours of play value being buy to play is bad, but a single player game with 10-20 hours is worth $60 bucks?
>>335769808
>Type like a fucking tool
>lol suck my dick
Shouldn't you be playing Call of Duty with your bros?
>>335769810
CSGO crates are randomly dropped that can also be bought and you need to buy a 2.5 dollar key to open to roll the dice on a single skin.
Overwatch lootboxes are given everytime you level up, they are free to open and contain 4 randomly choosen pieces of apparel
if you can't see the difference you're retarded
>>335769853
If you don't care then why are you here?
>>335769872
Shockingly, yes. Video games are my hobby and I enjoy playing and talking about them more than I do poorly made porn.
>>335769810
Nah, you seem to misunderstand.
I'm not calling the random loot drops gambling. I'm saying that the systems within CSGO, are used for gambling. With Overwatch there is no such trading mechanic.
If I get a rare drop from a loot box, then guess what, its just for me. I can't then and go sale that for real money.
https://csgoshuffle.com/
That right there though, is legit ACTUAL gambling.
>>335769693
Ah yes, Hots, where you either grind for half a year to unlock one hero, or buy them.
30 gold for a win, 20 for a loss
Champs cost 10k gold
:^)
Smite is the only one that did it right.
F2P, but you CAN pay a one time fee to unlock all current and future champions ,and it was only 25 euro.
Is there going to be a map editor for fun custom maps?
>>335769872
Overwatch porn/thick falseflaggers are the worst
I just have legitimate criticisms about the game you buttlovers
Why is she so cute?
still no damage falloff, hanzo scatter is still broken as shit. people ACTUALLY DEFEND THIS VIDEOGAME.
>>335769875
>b-b-but muh playtime
if you're autismal enough to do the same thing over and over on 5 maps thats good for you, i guess?
The game objectively has no content to warrant the price.
One thing I don't seem to get about these threads, is that the people who start these threads seem to think its always has to be one or the other.
"I just talked to my tf2 friends and they laughed" okay so who gives a shit? If they want to keep playing tf2... Then why don't they just keep playing tf2?
The people who want to play Overwatch... Can then and go play Overwatch.
Its as simple as that.
>>335770037
exactly this, the only acceptable model for a F2P game is pay a set ammount for every character in the game and all the future ones
>>335769952
Right after i suck off your dad's taint desu
If anyone thinks this game will be dead by christmas, they haven't played it. It's fantastic. Game feels fluid, level design is great, the art style is subjectively great, and it has a fantastic cast of character. Free updates for the games life, so far fantastic community. Been in the closed beta for like 7-8 months and I've had nothing but good times in it, in the maybe 300-400 games I've played there was one person shitting up the voice chat with some meme spam that sounded like he was a fuckin 15 year old straight off of /b/.
The only issue I can see someone having is the possibility of the microtransactions, but the loot boxes come so fucking often that it really doesnt matter.
Also the game is $40. I already preordered it, and it's the only game I've ever bought from Blizzard. I think they did a FANTASTIC job with it.
I won a copy from Taco Bell along with an $80 headset, so I can enjoy it with no investment in it actually being good.
>>335770076
>shes thick as fuck
>>335769971
Cute little post, but it doesnt change the fact that they're both still gambling.
Overwatch crates can also be bought with real money btw, shilly shillerson, as I'm sure you're well aware.
>>335770128
hanzo has damage fall off
Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure this is a bait thread.
>>335770207
Yeah yeah shillson, we heard this same sad little rant when evolve was coming out too.
>>335770037
HotS probably has the worse unlock system out of all the Mobas. Sure the games are short, but holy fuck why do I need to dedicate 50 hours just to get one space marine?
>>335770147
>Spending time on things you enjoy is autism
You don't seem to really enjoy anything then. You should probably kill yourself and save us all the trouble of your presence.
>>335770210
Congrats I guess.
>>335770207
thx im gonna try it out cause of this
>>335770207
What are your thought on the nature of ults as op discussed?
>>335769518
not him, but i don't/can't play multiplayer games alone.
and brazil gets their own server.
>>335770183
Alright, buddy. Maybe you should get some sleep so you don't miss the school bus tomorrow.
>>335770226
gambling implies that you have the chance to lose, which technically in neither of those systems you do but talking about net value in CSGO unless you open a super rare factory new skin you're gonna lose money 90% of the time
in overwatch you play, you get things, no investment required so its not gambling
>>335768309
>because blizzard games always become massively popular
>HotS
>SC2
>D3
>>335770367
>Try to use a flawed argument involving time investment to defend a shit business practice
>get btfo hard
>kek kill urself
Were people this bitchy about TF2? That game was b2p too.
>>335768795
[citation needed]
>>335770461
those games are popular tho, utter shit but popular
>>335770415
Except you dont lose either way. You always get an item.
The item not being what you want, or not being an item with perceived fictional value doesnt mean you lost.
>>335770412
Let me drink your pee
>>335770461
Those are all massively popular so I don't really see the point you're attempting to make
>>335770461
Yeah but didn't they fuck up with those three games? Surprising, but games a company kind of fucks up with aren't that popular.
But with Overwatch, the majority of the people who play it, like it.
Its gonna be the final nail in TF2's coffin. Theres no going back tf2 fafns, its a sinking ship.
>>335763210
They've really captured that 1999 feel, especially those bland, blocky graphics
>>335770504
technically hes right. They're selling crates, which can contain the things he mentioned.
>>335768309
I've had the blasted thing on preorder since day one. I wish I could play the fucking game. I'd be doing so right now.
>>335770596
>[citation needed]
WAIT WHAT IF TF2 KEKS JUST MAKE THESE THREADS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID EVERYONE IS GOING TO LEAVE TF2 FOREVER.
THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE GAME THEY'VE PUT 100S OF HOURS INTO, DYING OUT, SO THEY WANT TO MAKE ANY NEWCOMER LOOK LIKE SHIT.
holy its so obvious now.
>>335770337
>shillson
Nigga, I don't care, I'm not paid or anything, just posting my opinion. Blizzard has shit out some real mundane boring shit in the past few years, and this actually made me really excited once I started playing it
>>335770392
Ults are perfectly fine. Like any game with a powerful ability, go into a skirmish/fight expecting them and know how to play around them. There are plenty of games that have abilities that are considered " ultimates" or just extremely powerful ones that don't have a reading on if the enemy has it or not. Likewise, You can tell if a Pharah or someone like Soldier 76 has an ult because of the way they play, just like if a team has a Mercy on it and they start getting SUPER aggressive, you can tell Mercy has her ult up and is ready to get a huge rez.
>some ults are barely noticeable to unnoticeable
If you don't notice any of the ults in the game, you need your ears and eyes checked. I think the only ult that is miniscule is...
actually, no, everycharacter shouts and yell something before they ult, Pretty easy to tell.
>>335770492
TF2 kicked off the whole F2P multiplayer shooter bit.
>>335770461
HotS still has some dedicated players, Heartstone has a shitton of saps buying up packs of cards.
The fact Overwatch is even more casual than TF2 is something.
Shills scream the loudest.
>>335770489
It's not flawed in the slightest. Multiplayer focused games bank on the bulk of playtime being PvP. Time as an argument is generally only shit in regards to single-player experiences, the value of PvP multiplayer games comes from people enjoying them long term. This is how any fighting game or PvP FPS works.
>>335770554
>The majority of people that played it liked it
>the only people that even got to play are shills and diehard blizzdrones that signed up for beta and begged for keys
No shit shercock, a blizzdrone thinks a blizz game is good?
>>335762940
>>335763103
>tf2 fan
>complains about overwatch
>"i dont think the gameplay warrants a competitive future."
>"you end up dying for what feels like is something you had no control over."
gee, sounds like the pot is calling the kettle black. hatfort2 is unbalanced P2W bullshit.
you're just fangirl-ing, there's nothing bad enough about overwatch that it wont succeed.
It's already super popular.
>>335770147
>he thinks Overwatch only has 5 maps!
>he thinks they wont add more!
>>335770728
Cool beans beaner, now name me one MP only game that was B2P.
You cant. Because it is an unacceptable business practice. Those kinds of games have NO content apart from the few maps and character models.
I'm getting it because recently I've been playing a shit ton of TF2 after leaving it for like 3 years and I'm having a blast. Hopefully I enjoy Overwatch this much too. I play TF2 for the pubs and will play Overwatch for the ranked stuff.
>>335770654
this, you can read when someone has ults by the way they play, the element of uncertainty is pretty interesting when you're playing.
>>335766941
>skins
who gives a shit, its cosmetic. It's not like tf2 where they sell weapons and buffs.
CS:GO has cosmetics, and it's fucking rad
>>335768428
>>335770561
>pre alpha
>snarky shill remarks about aesthetics
>>335770638
What? It's not like I'm hiding the fact I came from tf2. i wrote it clearly on the op.
I think overwatch is fun, but it lacks the aspects of tf2 that I like, so I probably won't get it unless my friends get it.
TF2 never dies
>>335770510
>>335770549
Literally no one plays Diablo 3 or Hots, pretty sure starcraft 2 is nearing extinction too.
>>335770730
Okay buddy, you go suck Valve's cocks, and when they start charging for mods, you can just start paying for them too cause they do nothing wrong.
I'm just gonna add that the majority of streams I've seen play the game when I wasn't in the beta, were ex TF2 players who all really liked the game.
If you want the moba feel just play LoL or Dota for free, hell even HoTS. If you want to shoot something you can just play TF2 or buy csgo for a 1/4th of the price if that, both of which actually tell you who's a shitter and who's carrying the team.
Also Blizzard wouldn't know a good esport if it bit them in the ass.
Overwatch might make some waves but I doubt it will make the top of the list on Twitch.
if i preorder the game from amazon.de and get the beta keys, then cancel my preorder, will i be charged at all?
>>335770638
TF2 will still have an audience. There really isn't a reason Overwatch can kill TF2 considering that one of TF2's biggest gimmicks is the custom games created by the community.
>>335762940
Why not? I love what Activision is doing to the industry and I want to support it and "vote" for the continued growth of such practices.
Blizzard truly have evolved, not only in their attitude to us gamers but also in their business model, I am sure that this is another game made by passionate people who are only using business to get their passionate projects out.
That's what I respect most about them, their games are their top priority, and not their business which is clearly shown by them manipulating their business models so that it can allow them to make more games, each different than the other, each innovative in some, before it, unseen way.
Hell yeah I'll buy it!
>>335770638
agreed, something came out that isn't pay to win, and now they're scared because of all the money they spent.
the larger the investment, the greater the delusion.
>>335762940
I'm going to buy it, played at a friends place and had a blast. I don't understand all the hate it's getting from people who aren't going to play it, do you really hate Blizz that much?
>>335770829
Yeah, I'm sure they'll add more content to the game for free.
When they cant even add content to WoW, a sub based game.
6th map expected early 2017
>>335770960
When was the last time TF2 topped the list on twitch.
Actually when was the last competitive game of TF2 played?
Was it played in some highschool gymnasium like that HoN tournament?
>>335770638
tf2 will always have community servers and community maps so i don't really see overwatch filling that need any time soon considering blizzard is anti-creativity
>>335770860
Guild Wars
>b-but that doesn't count
You said name you one, faggot.
>>335770958
>b-b-but valve
Who mentioned valve here? Dont try to deflect, you sad little blizzard sausageslobberer.
>>335770860
tf2 :-)
>>335771071
>my game has more twitchwhores streaming it therefore it's better
>>335762940
They laughed it off because people touted it as a TF2-killer at the start and they don't play nearly enough like each other for that to happen.
>minor update
All it did was throw all the trash into a single playlist. Surprisingly, hydro is the most common of the maps played because it's the least shit in the playlist.
I still plan on getting overwatch eventually since it looks like fun but it ain't killing TF2. The only thing that'll kill TF2 is itself and that's only a matter of time.
>>335770221
you mean fat
>>335770917
tf2 is a bit to pay 2 win for me.
I don't want to have to spend a lot of money and shit to get items that other people have and can beat me with. like wtf.
>>335771081
blizzard has the largest creative community next to valve.
Dota was a warcraft/starcraft mod. You can create a FPS from starcraft 2's editing system. Overwatch will have these as well, just as Heroes of the Storm (kinda) does.
>>335770860
Team Fortress 2 for the first four years of its life and it was quite successful as well.
>Those kinds of games have NO content apart from the few maps and character models.
Except, you know, playing the game.
>>335771064
Different teams friend
>>335771140
So I take it the highschool gymnasium thing is true considering you didn't say anything about it?
I feel sorry for all those people who wanted any sort of investment in the tf2 pro scene
>>335771112
Guild wars also had constant expansions you had to buy for full retail price :^); I'm sure that just slipped your mind.
And its also an MMO,; which has far more content than your arena shootey game with 5 or so maps.
>>335771176
bait
Overwatch needs CTF.
pic unrelated
>>335771253
dont ignore me bitch nigga
>T F 2
>>335770860
CSGO
>>335771206
>Overwatch will have these as well, just as Heroes of the Storm (kinda) does.
Nope and nope. Overwatch will never have mapmaking software available to the community. MAYBE Blizz might release a community cosmetic pack, but they haven't done that for HotS or any of their other games so why would they do it here.
>>335771253
Overwatch will be getting new characters and maps with time as well, and at no charge.
>>335762940
Why is it always the TF2fags who try to shit on this game claiming it will die?
>>335771253
games like dota 2 and LoL have 1 map and yet there are people who spend hundreds of hours in them, its not about how many maps you have or how many characters, its how you design the gameplay around them and how it changes mixing all the elements of it.
>>335771315
CTF would be terribly balanced.
>>335771312
that's not bait, you're bait.
it's p2w, multiple people here agree. go back to r/tf2 if you're so assmad.
it would be fine if it was just cosmetics like cs:go, but it isnt
>>335771315
the problem with ctf in overwatch, is that it'd be very unbalanced. Certain heroes would be played all the time, and others would be played never.
Every game would be Tracer, Phara, Lucio, or D.Va.
>>335771138
Except it wasnt ,it was part fo the orange box :^)
>>335771234
League of legends can be played forever, doesnt change the fact that the game has no content. 3 maps and some low res models.
Same goes for OW, the content doesnt justify the price.
>>335771239
Considering how all of their games get slow as fuck updates, feel free to go fuck yourself.
>>335762940
Nah fuck blizzard, not worth shit anymore their golden days are over.
>>335762940
It looks colorful and fun with likebale characters like TF2
It isn't F2P garbage
It's an FPS that will actually have a playerbase and isn't CSGO.
Sounds good enough for me to buy.
>>335771343
If for any reason, you've already had to pay up at the door, so why not let them create on top what was made? HotS banks of characters and skins, they wouldn't risk their money train derailing on free skins.
>>335771379
Cause they're legitimately scared its going to lead to the death of TF2. They can't just accept the fact that both games can have their own communities that intermingle, no to them it is literally all or nothing.
>>335771421
still b8
>>335771386
not really when you think about it. 2 flag, I mean. it would have to be 2 flag.
fast characters like tracer would run flags and scout shit. snipers would snipe, turrets would cover base, healers would heal the tank and shit.
>>335762940
>No reason to take a blizz game seriously when it'll die before christmas
I mean.... there's a lot of criticisms you can make about Blizzard but since when is "their games die quickly" one of them?
>>335771342
can be played offline.
>>335771339
was free as part of the orange box.
>>335771354
>no charge
citation needed. Sounds like empty promises they wont make good on.
>>335771383
Those games are also f2p, just like overwatch should have been.
I'm not paying full retail for a game that consists of a handful of maps and characters
>>335771462
>130 different playable characters doesn't qualify as content all of a sudden.
Say what you will about the quality of the game as it does have legitimate problems, but what you're saying is horseshit.
>>335771421
I tried out Tf2 because I was so excited for overwatch, and some dude running around with a sword and shield fucking pounded me.
I was like thats cool, I wanna play as that. Nope, gotta pay out the big ones.
Makes Overwatch with its 100% heroes unlocked look much more appealing.
>>335770957
>Playing diablo 3 right now
>frming some of the new cosmetics
>everyone preping and waiting for season 6 on friday
i love the blind hate idiots who have no damn clue.
>>335771462
So i bought a MP and two SP games what not to love mate?
>>335771497
Blizzard lock down everything their community does nowadays. When Valve employed the guy actively working on Dota and went to trademark it, Blizzard tried to put up a fight trying to claim ownership of what Icefrog had made. Now if you make anything with the SC2 tools Blizzard owns it by default, it's in the EULA. Sounds like a great way to support creativity.
>>335771546
Diablo 3 ran that risk but immediately unfucked themselves with Reaper of Souls.
>>335771591
I didn't know $40 was full retail...
>>335771462
Except each part of The Orange Box was available for standalone purchase on Steam (admittedly not the case for consoles)
>>335771546
Almost every time.
Hots, Diablo 3, SC2 was dead after a month apart from the tryhard esport autismos.
Literally less than 2k people online in D3.
why can't you people fighting over tf2 vs overwatch justlike both
>>335771591
>citation needed. Sounds like empty promises they wont make good on.
Why do you want a citation if you've already discounted it? Why do you expect anyone to seriously cater to you when you have your mind made up about shitting on this game?
>>335771591
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-11-overwatch-interview
>>335771470
cs:go is still fun, though. I mean, Overwatch doesn't have anything to interact with.
Like, I miss that, there's never a bomb or a flag to hold or plant or move, or anything like that.
shooters now are casual territory games. you get 2 choices now: team deathmatch or king of the hill.
>>335771703
cause tf2 fans are they most hostile little shits. as soon as any team based shooter comes out, they're instantly worried its gonna be the death of the aging, on life support beast that is tf2.
>>335771592
>reused skeletons
>reuse ability mechanics
>>335771598
>b-b-but I'm playing it so its not dead
okay retardo.
You know anyone can just fire up D3 right now and see for themselves how many ppl are on, right?
>>335771591
>Citation needed
https://youtu.be/OKG8Yx6F7uc?t=65
>>335771670
70 on consoles, where it will be played the most.
>>335771676
You can still play multiplayer in all those games. SC2 came out in 2010 and there's still thousands of people playing. So thanks for proving my point.
>>335771379
Because they're the people most asked about for opinions on overwatch because the games share many similarities. and the more tf2 players you ask, the more opinions they give, the more likely you'll find someone shitting on the game. I mean, who else would you expect to shit on the game the most, /vg/'s grand strategy general?
its really weird how people even compare tf2 to overwatch, the games have nothing in common at all. overwatch is more like wolf:et/brink.
>>335771595
see? exactly. the thing is TF2 used to be good. that era is exactly what overwatch borrowed from. a lot of the weapons from overwatch are actually straight from tf2. Hanzo's bow, widowmakers sniper rifle, mercys healing gun, torbjorn's turrets, the list goes on.
>>335771775
i used to play competitive 6v6, maybe if valve didn't shit the bed with cosmetic overload and near-zero optimization of tf2 i'd still like it
overwatch is something new and interesting, maybe it'll last, maybe it won't
but it's not like either are terrible games, and at this point i have more faith in blizzard to not jew me out of things than valve.
>>335771842
Nah. Still $40 even for consoles. You might be thinking of the origin edition.
I like it, I had fun in the betas I got in to, I've bought it.
It's also not as similar to TF2 as people make it out to be
>>335771664
>RoS fixed D3
I hate this shit. D3 is broken and shit down to it's core but it took a long time for blizzard to remove it's head out of it's ass and sell a 40$ patch. Which only makes the game playable instead of complete shit.
There's a reason HoTS, HS, Diablo, and Overwatch are casual as fuck and it's to hold off their WoW players while they wait between queues or expansions.
>>335762940
No one has answered my problems about TF2 so I'm just going to assume you're all full of shit.
You can't argue that the game isn't P2W. If I log in, I don't have access to game changing items that others do. To me thats P2W. The fact you have to throw money to get the good stuff is proof of it.
I mean its obvious, vavle are just greedy fucks. Paid mods and everything
PAID
MODS.
Plus everyone keeps saying how Overwatch won't have a competitive scene. I didn't even know tf2 players knew what one looked like. Valve didn't want a competitive scene, so one never really fucking sprung from it. It never got popular and CSGO quickly became Valve's shooting love child. TF2 is a forgotten step child.
cya later valve cucks, gonna go legitimately have fun with Overwatch in a few days.
>>335771893
>overwatch is more like wolf:et/brink.
it's actually impressive just how wrong you are
anyway gamespot did a 'the making of overwatch' thing and kaplan says that team fortress classic and hl1 deathmatch were large influences on the game. and he talks about how great the design behind tf2 was, it's been the benchmark of team-based multiplayer shooter design for years now.
>>335771929
Now show the digital versions.
Oh, but you wont, because you know its 70 bucks :^)
More than anything Overwatch makes me think of this game. It seems like everyone hated it but I thought it was really fun. Too bad it died in like a week.
>>335771893
DESU senpai overwatch is if UT and TF2 had a baby
>>335771983
>a bow a sniper rifle a healing gun and a turret are exclusive from tf2
jesus fuck
>>335771929
You get the 40 dollar version from Battle.net retard.
>>335771893
> both made by a conpany that has their own digital distribution platform
> artstyles of both are cartoony
>Most unique gamemode in both games is a mode where you move an on-rails object from point a to point b
There are probably more, but I've never actually played overwatch so I wouldn't know.
>>335772078
>play for literally 1 hour
>get 2 weapon drops
>trade them for 1 of whatever you want
uh I am pretty sure this is not pay to win
>>335772110
I played the shit out of the demo of this game on 360 back when I was a kid to poor to buy games.
>>335772112
>UT
NOOOOOoooo, wrong! wrong as fuck! NOTHING is like UT, except Quake or Doom.
DO not disgrace the classics. either way, tf2 and overwatch are casual garbage compared to UT.
>>335772262
You can't trade as f2p
>>335772123
underage as fuck
>>335772078
>The fact you have to throw money to get the good stuff is proof of it
Shows what you know. Stock is undeniably better in all situations except soldier and pyro melee. Not to mention you get the shit for free as drops over time.
>baww why do I have to play the game to get rewarded with garbage like the winger that I'm dumb enough to think is better than stock and then get mad when it makes me worse
>>335772262
you can't you retard lol
its a f2p p2w pile of shit of a game, that is a former shell of its once great orange box days.
>>335772281
>its the "I have an unwarranted sense of superiority because I cling to an old game" meme
>>335772281
Looks like you kicked the shooter hornets nest. Never mention UT.
>>335772262
No, weps are 1 to half a scrap (so 1 wep to 1 wep) now via scrap.tf and other sites. Metal is worthless!
>>335772101
>:^)
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>:^)
>>335772306
>buy a single 50 cent item
>get premium and can trade all you want and get drops
If people think tf2 is shit thats fine, it probably is, but anyone who thinks its p2w is retarded.
>>335772110
It died because it released at the same time some mayor titles were coming out. So the community died out pretty fast.
>>335772349
>its the "I have a warranted sense of FUN because I cling to an old game" meme
fixed
>>335769805
>scouts, soldier, and demo
Congrats, you just described the standard 6 man team. 2 sol 2 scout 1 demo 1 medic.
P.S. teams are limited to 1 demo 1 medic because 3 medic 3 demo teams fucking RUINED everybody in beta.
So yeah class balance is shit but that's why Highlander exists.
tl:dr: So?
>>335772442
prove to me right now its not p2w.
video right now.
right now.
>>335771206
Had**
Yeah, SC2 sure has those mods right?
>>335772582
You have to be underage to be that demanding.
>>335772530
A lot of 6s teams are running a sniper nowadays because of insta-150 damage.
TWENTY TICK RATE
TWENTY TICK RATE
REPEAT
TWENTY TICK RATE
The game will be for shitlords full of splash damage and auto aim abilities.
Combine tf2 and shitty moba mechanics.
Die activision.
Remember TITAN was destroyed and boiled down to give us this bull shit.
It would be like taking arena from WoW and selling it as a standalone game.
Shameful display.
>>335769805
6s and class restrictions doesn't feel like it's gutting the game though; it's taking advantage of a competitive edge. Like, certain rules are made up and accommodations have to be met but that's literally every competitive game/sport ever? Just because different levels of competition necessitate different rules doesn't make it bad.
Like, I'll agree the class balance is wonky, but I feel like that's just the case when you have such distinct classes with different strengths and capabilities.
That's why you see snipers and spies top pub servers but they are rarely played in comp matches.
>335772078
Tf2 is very, very mildly p2w. It shouldn't take more than a few hours to get everything that isn't just reskins.
Paid mods aren't inherently evil, nor is it inherently greedy.
Plus, are you arguing about greed while defending a BLIZZARD game? Blizzard, the guys who practically live off of microtransactions?
>>335772613
one of the main selling points of sc2 at the moment is the custom games arcade - it might not be the most active, but it definitely appears to be a thing.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/maps-and-mods/
>>335772530
this is the dumbest post
>>335772690
>Splash damage
I wish. Pharah has to actually aim.
>>335772613
yeah, it does. check out sc2 battlefront. never said the mods were good, just there.
>>335772712
>Paid mods aren't inherently evil
Kill yourself, child.
Ipre orderedit ages ago and have been signed up for beta since the beginning.
I'm really looking forward to it.
>>335772690
This.
And EA finally got the memo about this shit last year in 2015 (from 30hz locked to 30 to 60 hz depending on server costs).
There will be no "competitive" scene. Especially if it's players versus players of another region, it'll be a netcode cluster fuck.
>>335772712
>I am shilling for a third party company hired by blizzard
>>335762940
I am buying Overwatch because the TF2 community is complete shit. can never find a good round of Gravelpit or Steel, it's just dustbowl and badwater forever.
>>335772780
>put character with rocket launcher in your game
>have barely any splash damage
what the fuck is this shit? i was hype for pharah but now i don't want to play her
>>335772781
>>335772727
So your point is moot, and like the other poster said, Blizzard will want their cut and say they own it in the EULA.
That gives 0 incentive to make stuff for a "community".
>>335772582
I play stock scout and topscore consistently
All the other weapons in the game are sidegrades/cosmetic with the exception of the occasional madmilk which you can get via an achievement. and if you were lazy enough, you could
1) go to an achievement server and get all achievments, thus netting you like 15 items
2) use Steam achievement manager to remove the cheevos
3) rinse and repeat until you have everything you want
