What would have made it good?
effort
Cloud
Spyro
Crash
That Katamari motherfucker
Oh shit and that dude from Shadow of the Colossus, he would've had a bad ass special
Spyro, Crash, and not trying to be something different and new and just be the shameless Smash rip off it is.
Removing the stupid "you need to use your move to knock out" shit. Make it more like Smash knockouts and falling off stage.
If they would've just gone the extra mile and completely copied smash it would've been amazing.
Air dashing
Air supers
Ability to select which super to use
Remove cinematic supers
Better balancing
Remove 3rd party shit. If they didn't want to play, then put more focus on niche Sony properties instead
I don't think the supers only idea was bad. I just think the balancing and execution was terrible
>>335762154
>Wow guys this is such a shitty Smash clone
>Game has mechanic to set itself apart from Smash
>You know, they should change it to make it like Smash
No, fuck you
>>335761339
a better budget and development time?
The gameplay was honestly fine if you actually played it; all it really needed was a better roster so it would sell better and appeal to more players
>>335763224
>development time?
It had more than enough development time
What it needed was a competent developer.
Copying Smash instead of making a "ORIGINAL GAME DONUT STEEL"
>>335761339
Honestly the first party roster was good aside from a few.
The third party line up was lackluster aside from Heihachi but they were all done to shill
The gameplay and presentation should have been better
>>335763095
Yeah too bad the fucking mechanic is God awful. They should have just copied smash or hell power stone clone.
>The Gargoyle will crack a unique pun or insult about one of 13 characters in the game. For the remaining 11, at the moment, he does not have any unique puns.
>Kratos: "No need to be so irate, mate; it's not that bad being bald."
>Fat Princess: "All hail her royal stoutness."
>Sly Cooper: "Everyone check your pockets. There's a thieving raccoon about!"
>Nathan Drake: "You'd better think twice about your plans, mister master thief. These tombs have already been plenty raided, thank you."
>Cole MacGrath: "How is it you manage to bathe with abilities as shocking as yours, good sir?"
>Jak: "Don't look now, mate, but I think there's a mongoose on your shoulder."
>Big Daddy: "You don't exactly look like her father."
>Dante: "While you are exceedingly cool, demon hunter, putting on a shirt and getting a job are that much cooler."
>Nariko: "Ah, you know what they say about redheads, don't you? They, uh, have...red hair."
>Sir Daniel Fortesque: "Let's see how the hero of Gallowmere fares against opponents with a pulse."
>Spike: "Surely it's past your bedtime, young man."
>Toro: "Allow me to make one thing clear, feline: I am not a scratching post."
>Kat: "There's a lady in our presence."
http://playstationallstars.wikia.com/wiki/Gargoyle
>>335761339
Sony having some characters worth 2 shits.
Gameplay that wasnt dogshit.
>>335763545
>A Power Stone Clone
That would have been neat
a worse smash clone
just make it more original and less reliable on special attacks to finish opponents, that was a stupid idea.
> "You don't exactly look like her father."
>>335761339
making it more like Smash. making it so you can only die from a super was fucking retarded and drew the matches out. super kills should have just been a game mode
http://playstationallstars.wikia.com/wiki/Concept_Art
>>335763095
It's the only mechanic that was keeping it from being smash and it was the dumbest one of them all. The supers weren't balanced in any way. Mysteriously the characters that the studio made somehow had the best supers.
Honestly, if they just cloned it all the way then the game would begood.
A cast of memorable characters
Say what you want about the game the stages were fucking neat
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>>335763345
It had a 4 year development time in which only 1 year was as a Smash clone. The first years were it being a 3D arena game with capture the flag until Sony told them to change gears.
It was also budgeted as a PSN title but given a physical release.
So maybe you shut the fuck up before talking about shit you don't know about.
>Blasto was once considered
>make a Sony Smash clone
>no Snake
>no Spyro
>no Crash
>no Jak/Daxter
>no Journey (yes I'm aware of the canceled stage)
>pointless super mechanic makes getting KOs un-fun and the game impossible to balance
This game's pooch was screwed from the get-go
>Sony Smash lets you play 2v2 online with another online friend
>Smash 4 requires you to have local partner
I just wanted teams online god damn it
>>335761339
different game modes that were not 3 minuet matches
>>335762715
>Remove 3rd party shit. If they didn't want to play, then put more focus on niche Sony properties instead
This. I don't care that 90% of them are shit nobody knows or cares about, but having a wide range of character types and fighting styles would be nice if the game had better gameplay obviously.
Stocks
>>335764591
>So maybe you shut the fuck up before talking about shit you don't know about.
>>335764591
Wow Omar, calm down
Your game is still fucking awful and your team is fucking terrible anyways. You had multiple balance and bug fix patches yet you were never able to fix your shitty game.
>>335761339
Made a powerstone clone instead of a smash clone because seriously fuck smash guys bros
>>335764610
Jak and Daxter is in the game mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95qNBgyypo
It's already a good game and better than Smash Bros.
>>335764610
>no Jak/Daxter
Didja play?
>>335764610
>no Snake
>no Spyro
>no Crash
They don't own these characters.
>>no Jak/Daxter
What?
>>335764603
FUCKING WHAT
HOW
BLASTO? BUT INSTEAD WE GOT TWO COLES? fucking shit m8
>>335764825
Sonyggarus should just stop already
I'm still upset about how his representation is all from the shitty PSP game rather than the original.
You know how certain franchise fans bought Smash just because of one character appealed to them was in or announced?
Well
>inFamous fans didn't buy it
>God of War fans didn't buy it
>Jak and Daxter fans didn't buy it
>Ratchet and Clank fans didn't buy it
>Uncharted fans didn't buy it
>Bioshock fans didn't it
>Twisted Metal fans didn't buy it
>you can only kill with final smashes
>exaggerated ammount of moves pwr character, often useless
>spyro, crash, snake, and even kratos missing, when shit like fat fucking princess is in
I still liked it. A psasbr2 for ps4 would make me purchase one
>>335765094
>spends 23 minutes talking about his dream roster for a sequel
He's so delusional it's not even funny and I wish I was making that video up, but it's real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DZbRuv1N_s
>>335764825
Did he really damage control this badly?
I literally don't know a single of these characters.
The biggest thing holding the game back was how shit the super system was. All of them were either worthless, impossible to read, or beyond overpowered. If the game ever saw competitive play they would have to outright ban Kratos because he could literally win games by stalling until he gets a 3 bar.
Make it a sumo wrestler. Killing enemies through special attacks with meters is too fucking slow.
Choose a better cast.
Make brand new models for everyone, so that the characters artstyles don't clash with each other.
>>335764964
Blasto would have been an objectively terrible choice and the dual Coles was basically the only way to get the character across without dumbing down the "message", so to speak, with a character split
Get your head out of your own ass
>>335761339
the "you can only kill using a super" ruined the entire game, is fine otherwise
>>335764760
>>335764829
Ok I guess I got amnesia because I played the shit out of this game and don't remember them at all. Damn.
>>335764894
They don't own Donte, Raiden and Big Daddy either yet they made the cut.
>>335761438
>this
>>335761339
Nothing.
Smash Bros is trash.
>better menu design
>better music
>better narrator
>better roster
>>335764964
>We knew that we wanted Cole in the game, and we actually created a design that at one point had that neutral starting point and through your actions you turned hero or turned infamous. We also had a proposal for just one Cole. We just made a choice and said we’d have the hero version. But the IP holders felt really strongly that the way that the Cole character manifests, he really is two different guys, and they felt the character would be best served as two different and they really pushed for it. That’s how we ended up with it.
>They really did shape out to be really different characters; the nature of the power and abilities in inFamous blend themselves to very different styles of play. The Hero Cole uses primarily ice and electricity has a very specific play style, and it’s centered to isolating opponents, one on one, and he’s really a jack of all trades. The Evil Cole is more about destruction and throwing chaos into the play space, and really just about causing general havoc. They’re very different and different players will gravitate towards the different Coles.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/oct/13/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-characters-vita-will-have-larger-heads-keep-track-location-cole-and-evil-cole-originally-one-character/
>>335765291
If Blasto got in everyone would say how he's bottom of the barrel
>>335765224
Then kill yourself.
>>335765219
He has said he really liked Sony Smash Bros, and said he spent more time on it than Brawl. I also believe he did state he liked it more than Smash in general.
>>335765148
>>you can only kill with final smashes
Wrong. You smack them around a couple times and build up a super bar to kill them with. They're nothing alike.
>>exaggerated ammount of moves pwr character, often useless
This may be true in some small cases, but it doesn't deter from the game. It's better to have the option to use it than none at all.
>>spyro, crash, snake, and even kratos missing, when shit like fat fucking princess is in
All of those are likely expensive third-party characters that weren't avaliable through the developer's meager budget. I'm going to assume you meant somebody other than Kratos, but I'm sure they fell into the sane category.
>>335761339
If it didn't play like a bad smash brothers.
No blatant shills
>>335765479
Agreed
>>335765450
Don't forget a better artstyle
>>335765336
>>They don't own Donte, Raiden and Big Daddy either yet they made the cut.
That's because they all had big games coming up, it's basically advertising. The same reason characters like Cloud probably got into Smash Bros., too.
>>335765291
>the only way
Do you even know what you're saying? The game is THAT POORLY DESIGNED the only way they can express his character is through two of him?
Fucking trash, let sony & their dumbass neofans burn desu
>>335761339
Make it harder for some characters to get guaranteed LVL1 confirms, especially when characters like Parappa only have very situational confirms, and in most cases can only sort of set them up. Meanwhile, Raiden could do the one big as sliding move he has that knocks you on your ass if you are grounded and he gets a free lvl 1.
Put in Dart and Abe like they originally wanted to before swapping devs.
I think the new devs released a patch that ended up removing a lot of combos, so fuck all that too.
What would it take for Sony characters to be iconic?
>>335766069
Really? Because the way I see it, the character is so complex that the only way to convey him is to split him into two.
And, hey, at least they have different movesets, unlike a couple other clones I know...
Vibri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wcr1iE1QgY
Nothing wrong. 8/10. It's good.
>>335766260
Sony characters are already pretty iconic, just not in the same way Mario and Pikachu are. They're in the "gamer" niche, while Nintendo games are simple and family-friendly, so they attract a wider audience.
ConfessionI'm typically a Nintendo person but All Stars actually made me appreciate Playstation's First Party characters and history
>>335761339
It was good. But it never had a chance of being a Smash-killer like Sony was undoubtedly hoping it to be.
>Microsoft characters gather more hype
>>335761339
>played this every time I was over at my friends
>>literally just Isaac Clarke: the game to me
>win every match as DeadSpessMan
>have to kill with supers, didn't like that
It was neat, but you could tell they just wanted to do what Nintendo had with Smash.
People complain about 2 coles, when literally half of the Smash roster is clones.
BAKA
Honestly, I enjoyed the game, but I won't deny it has a lot of problems, if a sequel is ever made, I really want Sony to improve on the formula. It's better than Brawl, I gotta say that, but compared to Melee and Sm4sh, it's shit.
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I LIKED the ideas of Supers to knock someone out.I also love this game more than smash,and was in the top 100 players the first few months it was out.
>>335763095
The only completely original concept I can think of from the game is the dual-stages, that is, every stage is a combo of two different games.
Even the mechanic of "using specials are the only way to get a point/KO" that was supposed to set it apart from Smash Bros had been done before, in Shrek Super Slam no less.
>>335766950
Doesn't that game have a bigger competitive following?
>>335766559
I don't think they thought it was gonna kill Smash, the whole concept was basically riding the coattails of its success. Sony probably just considered it a potentially new franchise, but based on the budget, they didn't have high hopes.
WE FLY
HIGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAAF8_iDDE
Anyone else hope for a sequel but greatly fix the problems? I love Infamous, but why are there 2 Coles? I just don't get that. Granted, Evil Cole in my opinion plays better than regular Cole.
>>335767480
If this happened almost every oldfag on /v/ would buy 2 copies
Alright if there was a Playstation All Stars ballot who would you vote for?
>>335767667
Yu Narukami.
>>335763831
I think it would have made far more sense for the game to be 3D like Power Stone. Nintendo and most of its characters started in 2D, but Sony has been about 3D gaming since the start. Not to mention it would have helped quell all of the "smash clone" accusations.
Do that, remove all the terrible 3rd parties, add one of those classic characters people associate with Sony (Lara Croft, Crash, Spyro, etc) and I think more people would have been on board with this.
Chosen Undead to get Soulsfags to buy it
>>335766284
>Cole
>Complex
Nah, mate. It's a generic "good/evil" slider, that's not complexity. Shit could've been solved with a stance-changing character if they really felt it necessary to integrate that aspect of it.
And different movesets just means more time spent on him that could've been spent on a different character.
MORE WAIFUS
>>335767667
The Prince from Katamari, Crash, Spyro, Shadow of Colossus dood
>>335765110
Pissed me off too
Not to mention he played nothing like how he plays in the originals. Sir Dan moved like fucking lightning. He's a slow as fuck character in Sony Smash.
Still my main though
>>335769272
That's another part of his character being built entirely off Resurrection, he's stupid slow and clunky in that game.
If he'd gotten some better representation, he'd be faster, he'd use more of his weapons, and he wouldn't have the fucking retarded plot device stone as his most powerful special move.
The fact that the skeletal Gallowmere army is only his second special is retarded.
>>335769657
>No ricochet or fire arrows
>No daggers
>No spears
>No club
>No arm
>Only one shield
>Only one sword
>Better third-party representation
>A battle system that didn't rely on fucking special kill moves
>Hiring an actual UI designer
Pretty much a completely different game would have made it good. PSASBR was a garbage game
>>335769989
>the chicken drumstick isn't a special
I can't even remember for the life of me if Resurrection even HAD the fucking chicken drumstick, if it didn't that's just another reason why it's shit.
>>335767667
Lara Croft, Batman and Jill Valentine.
>>335764026
God parappa looks HORRIBLE here.
>>335767667
GexBanjo-Kazooie
>>335764631
>Smash doesn't have online teams
>>335767667
Gex and Croc
>>335761339
Some of the balances were dumb, i remember when Sly was completely broken, now he's not that broken but still fast.
Now i just mind not find any Kat or Donte on the game, i really hate to deal with them.
>>335771395
Who the fuck is this bitch?
>>335772483
>This happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLDIENGWPKg
>>335772483
>>335761339
>Better fighting mechanics to show they were serious
>no blantant ad slots, clones and third parties
>SCE CHARACTERS ONLY
>Some features to introduce the IPs to people who don't know them
Honestly the fact that most of Sony's popular franchises are mature in tone, while this game is inherently fairly silly, just made this a bad idea.
Kratos or Big Daddy or Nathan Drake simply should not exist in a world with Parappa or Sickbay or Spike. They're just too gory and violent for a slapstick game like this.
>>335761442
Snake
Kasumi
Niko Bellic
>>335772483
Neptunia
>>335761339
the gameplay of Dissidia
>>335772483
>>335761339
The roster was awful
>red haired literally who girl
>fat princess
>big daddy
>moral fag raiden
>space nazi
I like bioshock but big daddy has the most boring move set I have ever seen and I don't know what he has to do with Sony.
>Made a fancy wishlist years ago when the game was announced out of hype
>Game turns out to be mishandled shit
Unless they get a god tier game director that actually knows playstation, I don't ever want to see a sequel or continuation of this series.
>>335773525
>I don't know what he has to do with Sony.
It was a shill for bioshock infinite. All of the third party characters were shills for upcoming games.
>>335773893
I guess Sony didnt want an All-Weeb battle royale
>>335774223
I don't think ZUN would allow 2hu's in a mainstream game, especially a console game.
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