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This place is a fucking cartoon with the rolling skeleton balls and pirate hat skeletons and ninja skeletons.

What even is souls anymore.
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Here we have the case-type of the faggot OP shitfuck.
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>>335727654
Not gonna lie, rolling skeleton ball sounds like a sweet afterlife.
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>>335727654
Miyazaki is trying to be meta with this game.

He's not only poking fun at the past souls games, but poking fun at the community as well.

Just imagine that all the skeletons rolling around with katanas and shotels and murakumos are the corpses of all the tryhard players from DS1 and 2
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>>335727937
im sorry i insulted your reason to live (souls games) please dont murder your family in autistic rage
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>>335728043
>rolling skeleton ball sounds like a sweet afterlife.
Rolling skeleton ball with a crab in the middle and you explode if somebody kills the skeleton in the worker hat

no thanks
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>>335728170
too late
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>>335727654
Hello
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>>335727654
fuck the tombs every ng I do I always cheese the fuck out of this place and this place only
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>>335727654
>raw ass
>faggot outfit with zero taste to it
>complaining about how level is "cartoony"
poetry
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>>335727654
I get really mad at myself every time I fuck up and get parried by the headless skeletons.


I know they can do it, I know the stance they take, but I still swing.
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>>335727654

Man, even Demon's Souls had ninja 2 kat skeletons. And those were made of metal or some shit.
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>post yfw the first time a skeleton used the ol' sheev spin on you
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>>335728589

It was one of those skeletons right as you enter the first open "bright" part in the catacombs after the first bonfire in dark souls 1, he missed because i had the high ground
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>>335727654
Dude in the first game the skeletons pat their head when they reassemble to make sure it stays on.

Also not even a hour in a priest gives you a penny to fuck off.

There are skeletons in wheels.

Dark Souls was always fucking cartoony in some places.
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>>335727654
>what are wheel skeletons
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>>335728331
thats a google image anon
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>>335727654

Fucking dark souls babies get off my series reeeeeeeee
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>>335727654
Don't forget one of the worst boss fights in the entire series
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>>335729006
excuse me ?
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>>335729006
I don't like Wolnir but he's got nothing on fucking Bed of Chaos.

It feels like Greatwood is an apology for that.
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>>335729006
i liked it tho

great mace makes everything fun tho
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>>335729121
Wolnir, son. I'm talking about Wolnir.
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>>335729006
Seriously what the fuck.
You have to fight a considerably harder demon to progress a npc quest right before it too.
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>>335729006

Wolnir is nothing to write home about but man, i wouldn't put him on that category. He has to compete with Dragon God, Bed of Chaos, Ceaseless Discharge, Ancient Dragon, Rat Vanguard and Ancient Wyvern.

I'd put him on the same tier as Armored Spider, pretty meh but at least it's still a boss fight.
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>>335729445
You literally hit his bling 5 times and he's dead. That's not a boss fight, that's a waste of my fucking time.
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>>335729567
It was a good setpiece boss that was easy, and there was a proper boss fight in much of the same area; that demon. Get over it.
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>>335729567
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>>335729567

You hit two switches to kill dragon god, you hit two... things to kill bed of chaos and then you kick a bug to kill her, ceaseless discharge literally kills himself, Ancient dragon is a piss easy boss that takes a shitgazillion hits to kill, rat vanguard is just a bunch of rats, ancient wyvern is a thing that you have to run past and then plunge attack and hope you don't clip through it's head to kill.

Wolnir at least fights back and has a moveset. You're just saying he sucks because he is too easy, and sure he is too easy and sure he sucks, but nowhere near as bad as those gimmick trash bosses.
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>335727654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8fvoyOvTQ
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>>335729869
He's better than those for sure but not by much
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>>335728943
This desu
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>>335730105

The fucking scream got me good.
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>>335730105

>tfw it's a good trick
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>invade in high wall
>host and his shitter twink friend refuse to advance
>kill the shitter friend
>host immediately runs back to bonfire and summons him again
>kill the shitter friend
>host runs back and summons him again
>kill shitter friend
>???
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>>335728195
Is that where that fucking crab comes from?

I'll be hanging out around those skeleton balls for awhile and all the sudden it'll disappear and then a fucking little crab bitch walks up on me
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Honestly I don't see how anybody couldn't find the corpse katamari incredibly funny.

Its so stupid and silly. When you watch the animation you can see that all the corpses are using their arms to roll themselves.
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I feel like one of the four people in existence who likes Souls puzzle bosses. Storm King is genuinely no bullshit one of my top 10 in the series because it was such a cool setpiece with a fun gimmick. I even thought Ancient Wyvern in 3 was fun.

Bed of Chaos can still fuck itself though
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maybe its because you fight a badass boss with this music right before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo

then youre just in silly skeleton funhouse
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>>335731438

>that view of the sky as the clouds part after the boss fight

I absolutely love how scenic that fight was. Absolutely fantastic.
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>>335727654
>This place is a fucking
Chalice Dungeon rehashed assets shithole with somehow worse level design and enemy variety than chalice dungeons.
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>>335731723

I thought that was the demon ruins.
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>>335731793
Of all the places to reuse from the first game they had to pick my least favorite level. Fuck.
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>>335731793
Both of them do it, shit was disgusting to look at.
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>>335729006
I wouldn't say Wolnir is bad just kinda forgettable.
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>>335731723
>>335731793
>>335731993
>>335732067

>what if i take the two most hated parts of my last 2 games and I fuse them!
>Hidetaka "The hack of rehash" Miyazaki
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>>335731438
I forgot, to add on this, my idea of a bad boss are the total "nothing" ones. No buildup, no atmosphere, bland or bad design, forgettable music, and/or not even an interesting gimmick to make up for anything else.

This is why Covetous Demon and the ganksquad NPCs are among my least favourite in the series.
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>>335731438
The problem with them is that after you beat it once, it's never enjoyable again.
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>>335729006
>>335732167
What the shit you guys on about?
It may have been easy but that fight was rad as fuck.
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>>335732217
At least Covetous Demon had some dumb lore and two gimmicks. He's still pretty low though. Ganksquad is one of the few things I won't defend about DS2 either. Not that BB or DS3 don't reuse the concept.

Generally I don't think much bosses in DS3 managed to 'wow' me but that may be just the series burnout, not to mention nothing reached the sheer levels of frustration I had with Fume Knight or even worse - Orphan of Kos.
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>>335731342
Rip rudy
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So are the goat people of Farron keep demons? If not, how the fuck did they end up in Smouldering Lake?
And whats with the crabs down there?
>no, theyre not the same! Cant you see, they have some red lines with embers coming out of them!
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Skeleton ball is the ultimate MVP of invasions. I've ruined so many gank squads because of him. God bless you, skeleton ball.
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>>335728195
>with a crab in the middle
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>335727654
'tis treason then.
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What are you trying to say about cartoons?
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>>335733908

There's a crab inside the second skeleton ball.
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>>335734248
I only ever found bone ash inside the one on the staircase. Ive never seen a crab in Catacombs, period.
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>>335733579
>So are the goat people of Farron keep demons?

I don't fucking know. Their items (they're apparently called Ghru?) refer to them as 'apprentices of Faroon'. It's possible that they ventured from the Demon Ruins and joined the Undead Legion but that barely makes sense, even considering the demons managed to have a society of sorts.
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Well kill the second hat skeleton and go back down to the water are after the ball breaks, there's a crab in it.
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>if you hit skeletons with a hammer they fall apart every time
That place was a bore.
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>>335734248
Oh shit it's the ball, fuck I wondered where the fuck that crab came from.
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>>335734591
Theres a second ball near the bonfire. If you kill the other skeleton with the hat it breaks and a crab is inside along with a deep gem.
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>>335727654
>ninja skeletons.
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>>335727654
>a fucking cartoon
Can you smoke it?
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>>335734664
Well they do seem to be "protecting" the Legion from the dickwraiths. But I dont get whg the wraiths would hunt down the legion. Seems the legion has been pretty fucking effective at wiping them out, seems unwise to challenge them.
Then again, they just stand at the gates after wiping out the Ghru, so I guess they pussied out?

The lore in this game is really not much more than surface deep
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>>335734916
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>>335734952
what
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>>335735013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfz5Lj4FF7w
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>>335734248
Maybe he's the machinist.
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>>335728195
>you explode if somebody kills the skeleton in the worker hat

but why, how does that make sense

and why do both dragons in Lothric Castle die just because you kill some sentient tar that's leaking out of one's foreleg?
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>>335735095
a cartoon of cigarettes
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>>335735013
>But I dont get whg the wraiths would hunt down the legion.

I assume that since Dickwraiths are powerhungry killers serving Kathee they're here to either get their power or prevent them from Linking the Fire.

And yes, this game feels like it has the weakest lore from all of them. At least so far.
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>>335734916
Fucking
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>>335735170
>both dragons in Lothric Castle die just because you kill some sentient tar that's leaking out of one's foreleg
>both
No fucking clue why the other one die anon. Was wondering that myself.
I still dont fucking get what that tar shit is. Some manifestation of the abyss?
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>>335735170

They are already dead and they are just being controlled by the black monster inside like a puppet, the black monsters were created by Oceiros who went insane studying seath's crystal books, and the dragons are twins like the princes so if one dies the other one goes too.

None of this is said anywhere in the game and it's barely implied but it's what my brain tells me is going on.
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>>335729227
PINWHEEL
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>>335728589
Skellies have been doing that since DS1
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who /LONDOR/ where?

Hollowbros unite!
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>>335735430
Hollowbros are fine.

The church of sadistic dickbags can fuck off though.
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>>335735257
What ARE Darkwraiths anyway? Theyre just humans with a distinct set of armor and abilities that serve(d) the serpents?
But with the Abyss cut back, whats their endgame?
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>>335735367
>the dragons are twins like the princes

I like this idea, my 'tism is quelled
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>>335727654
>Obviously hasn't played any other souls games

Areas like this are in every game shitlord.
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>>335735517
Agreed, Aldrich is 100% irredeemable evil

you've gotta fuck things up pretty hard to make an Age of Dark more attractive than normal civilization
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I think the Ghru are some kind of degenerate offspring of the Capra Demons
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Does Dark Souls 1 require port forwarding? After three days of a combined six hours my buddy can't see my sign.
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>>335735367
>like the princes so if one dies the other one goes too.
Elder prince dies plenty of times without Younger prince feeling anything.
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>>335729006
If the boss fight wasn't easy over half of the players would've quit at that point. Can't have a boss fight that's spoopy AND hard, that's just too much to handle Anon.
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>>335735137
>that damage and defense

Darkwraiths are overleveled pricks
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>>335729006
not gonna lie I jumped and was super spooked the first time I seen him when I wasn't expecting I also died the first time to him because I ran under his belly
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>>335735661

They're the remnants of Farron acolytes according to item descriptions. But then they're randomly in the demon ruins which makes no sense. Cool lore miyazaki.
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>>335735530
Darkwraiths are a cult of abyss-worshiping, humanity-stealing undead. Supposedly they're the most Human out of all humans, the ones who have embraced their humanity the hardest.

When the Abyss left, they presumably focused their efforts onto bringing it back, eventually teaming up with Londor
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>>335735367
>>335735338
>>335735170

Ok, so, nothing is explained in this game but it gives us like pieces and maybe we're supposed to put them together. Let's try that.

The tar monsters are only in Lothric, in the high wall, on Gundyr right outside of the castle, inside the dragons and on Oceiro's garden.
The tar monsters look kinda like snakes.
The one inside Gundyr has a dragon-like bone claw.
Oceiros "went mad trying to harness his royal blood for a greater purpose"
Oceiros's room(lab?) is filled with corpses of snakemen
Oceiros's lab leads to the abyss where champion gundyr lies
One of the dragons is gold and the other one is white
The princes are white and gold(the young prince uses white magic and was supposed to use a platinum sword, lorian has faded gold/bronze armor)

So... Oceiros created the tar monsters? And used them to control the dragons? Or... He created the dragons by stealing the twin soul idea from his own children?

Something.
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>>335735661
That makes sense, especially when you recall that Black Knights, demon hunters, seem to love wiping them out.
But why the fuck are they apparently allied with the legion?
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>>335735675

Yeah but if you kill the younger prince lorian also dies.
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>>335735675
Lorian's got the magic pixel
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>>335735661
>>335735751

their weapons say that they're the remains of the Farron Acolytes.

>Legion moves out
>swamp moves in
>Chaos moves in with it because swamps == pyromancy since forever
>acolytes become demons
>move to the Smouldering Lake
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>>335735632
I was talking about the Sable Church of Londor actually, but yes - The cult of the Deep is one of the few unquestionably evil things in DSverse.

>>335735530
>What ARE Darkwraiths anyway
In DS1 their armor describes them as "former knights of New Londo who descended into Dark." They serve Kathee and stayed underwater for a WHILE so I assume they've been twisted by the Abyss.

As for their goals - probably trying to bring the age of Dark or - if they're really working with the Sable Church and therefore Yuria - the Usurpation of the Fire.
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>>335734802
It was satisfying to use that to wreck the edgelord skellies, but yeah.
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>>335735849
>>335735661
>>335735776
>>335735893


None of this is important, what is important is what's the deal with those fat bird goat pyromancer sin demon ruins that make funny noises? And why can't we have one of them as a pyromancer master in firelink?
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>>335735917
Sable Church isn't even on the same plane of Evil existence as the Church of the Deep, we hardly even know anything about them. All they do is spend all day telling each other stories of downtrodden hollows suffering and rising up in revolution, and assassinating their enemies
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>>335735787
The tar monsters are one of the most baffling enemy type in the game. I expected to see more of them but they just disappear after Lothric High Wall and only return in Lothric Castle. You'd think there'd be some plot relevance to that but nope.
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>>335735893
>they're the remains of the Farron Acolytes.
Hold on a second so is this some kind of ripoff of Bloodborne?

They drank too much wolf blood and it turned them into goats???
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>>335736076
No, the acolytes were the people who never got to drink the Wolf Blood, they were just the applicants who hung out outside the Keep.

They got a taste of that there Chaos Flame and turned into goats
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>>335735664
Get dscfix.
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how do i get over here
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>>335736047
>The deep is more evil than the abyss

i want dickwraiths to stop spreading this lie.

just because you cannot fathom the motivations of the things that lurk in the deep, does not make them evil.
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>>335735998
Those are also Ghru, just their spellcasters, right?
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>>335736242
hmmmmmmmm
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>>335736076

No, Artorias's fanboys fucked some goats and ghrus are the result.
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>>335736242

try using head
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>>335736047
While I understand that they may not be all 100% evil, Yuria is pretty much this game's Mephistopheles - urging you to kill people for personal gain. Not surprising since it's implied she's a Dickwraith.

Also, Morion Blade:
>A twisted sword resembling the towers of
Londor's Sable Church. Eight branching blades
and thorns induce bleeding.
>The church's blessing makes the weapon revel in the agony of its owner.
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>>335735849
>why are they allied with the Legion
they aren't, haven't you ever had one of the Abyss Watchers start attacking them through the fog door instead of paying attention to the real fight at hand? It's annoying as fuck
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>>335736242
roll off the elevator when siegward says hmm
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So the weird crow enemies in Road of Sacrifices are somehow linked to Priscilla? What in the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>335736269

I refuse to believe that, they're way cooler than those filthy ghrus.
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>>335736242

hmmmmmmm
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>>335736373
They are apprently "Unwanted" and "Guided by Hereical Storytellers". Considering they are called Corvians - which is a word for 'crow' - they might be more related to Velka if anything. But they come out of fucking nowhere and don't seem to fit anything.
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>>335736365
But they defend them against the Darkwraiths with their fucking lives. They clearly put that little scuffle in the game to make some kind of point about that
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>>335736361
Yuria did nothing wrong, Oorbek had it coming.

Also, there's a big difference between engaging in self harm and kidnapping children to be slowly eaten alive by a sadistic slime monster
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>>335736242
I was going to tell you but these were all more entertaining to read:

>>335736301
>>335736351
>>335736476
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>>335736361

But it's not personal gain, it's belief in a greater cause. She legitimately wants you to become the lord of hollows and continue Kaathe's legacy.
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>>335736373

I think the implication is that Aldrich ate priscilla after dreaming of her when he ate Gwyndolin and Priscilla's freaks of nature had to run away, so now those corvian storytellers lead them around telling them stories of the good old days when they and their bonewheel skeletons raped people in tight narrow corridors.
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>>335736492
The scythe they use is implied to be fashioned after Priscillas though
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>>335730105
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>>335736242
Jump off the lit half way up when you hear
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>>335736508
it's a 3-way fight, Ghru vs. Darkwraiths & corrupted Watchers vs. pure Watchers.

Farron is a messy mosh pit between Chaos, Light and Dark, and you're caught in the middle
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>>335734916
the absurdity is undeniably hilarious
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>>335736649
thanks
now im going to write my paper
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>>335730314
Sith Scream OP
>that day where you found out that it's a bona fide Sith force power
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>>335736570
>telling them stories of the good old days when they and their bonewheel skeletons raped people in tight narrow corridors
I breathed more air out of my nose than normal. Good one anon.

Right I forgot about those harpies in the painting world. So all those guys escaped the painting when priscilla croaked and evolved into what we saw in DkS3? Makes sense. Good thinking
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>>335736509
>>335736556

Again, I know they may not be evil but you can't tell me Yuria isn't rather sinister. Then again I did go for the Usurpation ending so I had to work with them.

>>335736610
I dunno. Hollows from the Painted World started breeding with the bird people? Fuck I have no clue how to connect this.
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>>335734916
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>>335734916
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>>335736870
They're just descendants of the bird people from the Painted World, the "heretical tales" that their priests tell are of the Painted World and Velka
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>>335734916
Fuck, I give up. I don't get it.
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>>335736492

Wasn't Velka also tied to the painted world though? You find a velka set or something or other there don't you?

And it's filled with those bird people.
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>>335737020
I guess that makes sense, but how did they get out of the Painting then? And why do they just freaking TURN into weird bird mutans?
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>>335727654
>implying Skeletons aren't a meme cartoon enemy to begin with

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting OP
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>>335736870
Don't get me wrong, I have no illusions about Londor. Hollow civilizations only ever have 1 endgame, all you have to do is look at New Londo to see what it is (hint: worlds of STR are pretty merciless).

However, I consider them the lesser evil, when the alternative is Aldrich's fuccboi squad. Usurpation ending just because Linking the Flame is finally the eviler faction.
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The wheel-skeletons are a staple of Souls games and also a reference to Medieval tortures(the wheel) and maybe Berserk.
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>>335737246
God damn it. I feel stupid now. Thanks.
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>>335737145
I dunno, but they had made it out in DaS2, so they had to have done it at some point
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>>335736269
No, they dont appear in Farron woods and their pyromancy is quite different. Since they only show up in demon ruins i think they must be direct descendants of the demons.

>>335735998
What im even MORE curious about are those tall motherfuckers in Farron woods that shoot flaming red skulls and shove trees up your ass. Especially since their magic is unlike any sorcery, miracle or pyromancy encountered anywhere else
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>>335737145

See any painting guardians around? Hell, see any painting around? Shit's fucked man.
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>>335737246
wut
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>>335737145

I bet the Pontiff burned the painting or something. Fits in perfectly with how much of a massive dick he is to everyone.
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>he doesn't remember that the skeletons are always fucking silly
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Some of the skeletons don't slowly put themselves together again after being shattered for the first time but rater just instantly pop back together ready to attack. Is this supposed to happen or is it an animation glitch?
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>>335737481
weird swamp shit anon, swamps are home to all manner of strange bullshit in Souls. Blame Izalith, that's what I do.
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>>335737484
You can get the painting guardian set somewhere in the area, no? Dont remember where i found it
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>>335737481

>What im even MORE curious about are those tall motherfuckers in Farron woods that shoot flaming red skulls and shove trees up your ass. Especially since their magic is unlike any sorcery, miracle or pyromancy encountered anywhere else

They escaped from Bloodborne.

But yeah i don't know, if you think about it there seems to be a lot of new magic forms popping up in souls 3, there's frost magic from Irythil, the snake cobra things in Archdragon peak seem to use some form of gold humanity, and prince lothric uses bright white magic, and like you said there's those tree fuckers that shoot red skulls to you.

Although, now that i think about it, there were exploding red skulls in the catacombs in souls 1.
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>>335737481

Those are Elder Ghru. The trees are just catalysts, and the magic is from Izalith.
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>invade Archives on my Guts character
>invade right in the middle of one big free-for-all
>phantoms going nuts
>host freaking out
>kill two phantoms with a R2 while both are low
>kill Dorkmoon right after
>loyd the host
>RAVAGE THAT ASSHOLE
>walk away with 5 tongues

Sometimes this build is great, sometimes it's tricky. Surprisingly effective though. Crossbow is mostly to just piss people off.
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>>335737642

It's inside Yorshka's tower.
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>>335728170
You're the only one mad enough to waste your time making a thread about it :^)
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>>335729567
Sounds familiar
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>>335737718
>you will never be able to use Lothric's elder god-tier miracles
feels fucking awful, senpai
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>>335737590

I think it's a glitch, like the teleporting dogs.
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>>335737272
>when the alternative is Aldrich's fuccboi squad

You know what. Yeah I can get behind that. Not to mention that ending does feel like a culmination of all we've seen mainly because it relies to on the theory Vendrick had. I'm glad at least that plot point didn't get the shaft.

>>335737564
Probably. This guy was a worse ruler than the Old Iron King and that's saying something
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If it's not obvious yet, the tar monsters are humanity gone wild

That's why they are only attached to undead and have the same red eyes on the tar as Manus

The twin dragons having rampart humanity is the consumed king's experiments fault
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>>335737904
Plus, with yourself at the helm, you can hopefully keep Londor from degenerating entirely like New Londo did. Just because we're hollows, doesn't mean that we don't have dignity! The Darkwraiths took things too far!
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>>335737904

Only true good ruler we've seen in the souls series was the Ivory King, Gwynn comes in second, and Vendrick comes dead last because he pussied out and just sat inside a tomb until he went hollow.
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>>335727654
catacombs was the only area in the game I've been to thats done something fun and memorable
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>>335738081
Sunken King did nothing wrong
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What's the lore behind the Profaned Flame?
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>>335727654
I found it hilarious and quirky.
Meanwhile THAT FUCKING POISON SWAMP
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>>335738406
Poison is a non-issue in DaS3 though
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>>335738081
I'm not fond of Gwyn but at least he had dedication, gotta respect that.

Sunken king is...kinda nothing.

Old Iron King fucked up bad after his best bro left him. Building a keep over lava, seriously man?

Vendrick at least tried to do shit and it ends up creating one of the few things that can potentially fight the curse of the Undead. So that's something even if his methods required some questionable things and he pussied out.

Ivoty King is the fucking best though. Motherfucker managed to make a Daugher of Manus feel love.
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>>335731343
Those things were the best. Whenever they rolled by they like screamed or whatever and you could tell they were just having a good time.
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>>335737775
>Crossbow
I had a lot of success using the arbalest in my off hand instead of a shield. Catches people off guard everytime.
Try it out if you can find it, its superior in every way to the crossbow and even avelynn
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>>335738543
Alsanna always felt love, tho, she was never evil like her sisters
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>>335738259

Those jailer bitches made it, everyone died but they didn't care. Yhorm tried to put it out or something, but also didn't work out.
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>>335738081
>Vendrick comes dead last because he pussied out and just sat inside a tomb until he went hollow.

Watch the vaati video. Vendrick basically set up a way to ensure that Nashandra could never, ever make it into the throne without help.

>To get to the throne, you need the kings ring
>To get the kings ring, you need to get to the crypts and defeat Velstadt
>To get to the crypts you need to cross the shrine of amana, which makes undead creatures docile.
>To get to the shrine, you need to beat the mirror knight
>To get to the mirror knight, you need a key which is sitting next to another milfanito
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>>335738650
is it Chaos?
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>>335738406
Farron keep is dildos, which makes it so great to invade in.

But seriously, Farron Keep has nothing on Ithryll dungeon and Profaned Capital.
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>>335738684
>Watch the Vaati video
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>>335738637
True, but it's still impressive as she WAS a Child of the Dark. She almost instinctually sought out a king to latch on and try and bring on the Dark but Ivory was such a cool guy she decided to abandon her quest. That's a good story in my book.
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This whole place was designed with frustration as the goal. Nameless saved it from being the most annoying area since Izalith though.
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>>335738856
>loses King and her entire civilization
>stands watch over Eleum Loyce as an eternal guardian
>city gets found by others cycles later
>gets used and abused, followers are angry
>resort to mixing a part of the Chaos Flame with Humanity, creating a cursed Profaned Flame that nukes the place
>tarnishes city forever, ruins her legacy
why does everyone retroactively get a bad end in DaS3?
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>>335739139
This place, I mean...
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>>335738736

No, it's something else. The Chaos flame is fading by the time of Dark souls 3, that's why the demons are all dead or dying. The profaned flame is something new, it says on the description of the Eleanora:

>A strange weapon found among malformed inhabitants of the Profaned Capital.

>The Profaned Flame was triggered by the curse of these women, relatives of a certain oracle, but despite their culpability, they went on living, without any cares.

On the handmaid dagger it says:

>Dagger used by handmaids of the Profaned Capital.
>Each successful attack replenishes a slight amount of FP.
>It is said that these women took pleasure in wounding others.

On the profaned greatsword

>A ceremonial sword, held in Pontiff Sulyvahn's right hand, representing the Profaned Flame.

>Long ago, when Sulyvahn was yet a young sorcerer, he discovered the Profaned Capital and an unfading flame below a distant tundra of Irithyll, and a burning ambition took root within him.

on the stone torch hammer

>Stone torch hammer wielded by gargoyles of the Profaned Capital.

>The Profaned Flame, which never goes out, imbues this weapon with a fire attack.

On Yhorm's cinders of a lord

>Lonely Yhorm became a Lord of Cinder to put the Profaned Flame to rest, knowing full well that those who spoke of him as lord were quite insincere.

And on the profaned flame pyromancy

>The Profaned Capital was consumed by fire after Yhorm the Giant became a Lord of Cinder. >The fire, born of the sky, is said to have incinerated naught but human flesh.

And as far as i know that's all the lore about the profaned flame in the game.
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Okay so let me see if I got this straight.

The events of DS3 are set in place because the next lord of cinders in line (Lothric) refused to do his job and link the fire, which caused the firekeepers to ring the bell and awaken all the ashes, to find another suitable heir. The theme is all about finally breaking the endless cycle of light and darkness.

But didnt the main character from DS2 also refuse to link the fires and walked away?
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>>335734916
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>>335738684

>Watch the vaati video
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>>335739269
>Profaned Coal creates Dark, Hollow, and Blood infusions
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>>335738585

I have it, it's just heavy. Puts me over the threshold and into slower rolls.
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>>335739139
>>335739243
It felt like it belonged in 2
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>>335737873
Souls would become that Bleach gif
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>>335739274
Yep, that's it. Bearer of the Curse did walk away to find another way with Aldia, but might've failed. Item descriptions say that Lothric's mentor was a scholar who didn't believe in linking the fire, so Aldia might still be around trying to find another path.
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>>335739274
yeah, and he fucked everyone in his cycle by not doing so. The Aldia ending has a fuckload of implied collateral damage (unless someone else got their ass in gear eventually and Linked the Flame)
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>>335739448

Oh silly me, i forgot about the profaned coal, it says

>Remnants of the fire that burned down the Profaned Capital, preserved in an icy skull.

>Give to the blacksmith in the shrine to allow the use of gems for dark, blood, and Hollow infusion.

Andre also says "This is much too dark, is see the Abyss in it" when you give it to him.
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>>335737775
How the fuck can FROM get away with so much Berserk plagiarism?
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>>335739503
I still want it, you've done nothing to discourage me. That pure white magic was sexy as fuck
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>>335739605
That seems to back up the theory that the Profaned Flame is Chaos infused with Humanity, since darkness and the Abyss are just Humanity.
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>>335738684
I think it's time you kill yourself
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>>335739540
>>335739546
So is it possible that the bearer of the curse was the original founder of the kingdom of lothric?
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>>335739702
it's only Chaos if you buy into "Eleum Loyce == Anor Londo"
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>>335739503
>>335739503

This gif? Because that would be awesome.
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>>335739618
It's a homage.
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>>335739880

Seems legit, Irythil is on top of the Profaned flame and right next to the demon ruins/carthus catacombs, Eleum Loyce was on top of the old chaos.
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>>335739720
it is a mystery
>Anything is possible, just follow your dreams!
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>>335739880
That also makes sense because both Eleum Loyce and Irityhill are in a northern valley and have an evil flame underneath them. Eleum Loyce Knights also have theirs ghosts wandering Irithyll
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Anyone have that webm of the mimic chasing a host if embers down a hallway?
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>>335740040

Those ghosts are just the outrider knights, or at least, they look exactly like the outrider knights.
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>>335740040
those aren't Eleum Loyce knights, they wear the Dancer's gear
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>>335739269
>The Chaos flame is fading by the time of Dark souls 3
It's not fading, it's dead. There's no Chaos Flame by the time of Dark Souls 3. This is why the Demons are the way they are.
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>>335739897
The *teleports behind you* one.
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>>335733925

Beautiful.
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Can /v/ compile a list of all of the people/organizations that Aldrich and Sulyvahn ruined?
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>>335740619
No
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>>335739269
>Yhorm tries to toss the Profaned Flame in the Kiln as a part of it's linking
>it comes back and burns his city to the ground instead
Witch of Izalith 2.0
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is there a reason why the hollows on Irythil are invisible? the only reason i can come up with is sully's vanity
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>>335741272
never said. they're also slaves btw
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>>335734916
Perfect.
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Normie Souls has sucked every since it went mainstream.
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>>335741416
Were they inhabitants of the Profaned Capital?
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>>335741648
never said
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>>335740465

Go you covered senpai
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>>335739269
>Jailer Set

>Robe worn by jailers of Irithyll Dungeon. Originally ritualistic formal wear.

>The jailers were among the few survivors inhabiting the Profaned Capital, later serving under Pontiff Sulyvahn. Perhaps the screams emanating from the cells help them forget their old home.
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>>335740619

Aldrich just wanted to eat people.

Sulyvahn is the one that ruined everyone's lives, in fact, i'm 99.9% sure i read somewhere that Sulyvahn is the one that forced Aldrich to become a lord of cinder and then later imprisoned him in the cathedral.
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>>335734842
So... why does it break if he dies?
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>>335741769
>implying that this wouldn't be fucking awesome
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>>335735528
i killed him oops
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>>335741908

Because they were wizard skelingtons controlling the ball with telekinetic powers.
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>>335741868
well, you're going to have to keep looking, because I'm 99.999% certain that no such item exists
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>>335736071
I thought they came from the dead dragons, like some sort of abyss tainted shit or whatever.

No idea why dragons have tar inside of them though. Nor why dragons of all things would be related to abyss.
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>>335741868
Aldrich was never "forced" to become a Lord of Cinder because he technically isn't one. He's considered a Lord of Cinder because of how powerfull he is. That's how Hawkwood define it: Lord of Cinder not for Virtue but for Might.
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>>335742036
I liked that one theory where the Abyss goo was one of Oceiros' inventions. It's 100% headcanon, though
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>>335741868
Sulyvahn knew that Aldrich was a Lord of Cinder, he just locked him in the Cathedral so he couldn't be taken to the throne and to feed him more and more gods to increase his power to bring the Deep to the world.
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>>335742036
The pilgrim butterflies look suspiciously like dragons.
Maybe Humanity turns people into dragons as the flame goes out and returns the world to ash and archtrees.
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>>335740096
yes

best webm
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>>335742123
No, Aldrich definitely became one
>Aldrich BECAME a Lord of Cinder by devouring men, but grew weary of his throne, and took to eating gods instead
he went all the way, linked the Flame, and decided that the Flame sucked and that he would rather do something else when he was revived
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>>335734916
is this loss?
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>>335742123
>>335742014
>>335741868
>>335742279

Oh that's probably what i was thinking off, Hawkwood says

"Let's take Aldrich, for one.
A right and proper cleric, only, he developed a habit of devouring men.
He ate so many that he bloated like a drowned pig, then softened into sludge,
so they stuck him in the Cathedral of the Deep.
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might.
Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?"
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>>335742375
Agreement

Literally Scooby-Doo
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>>335742292
>>335742036
Did you all forget that Dragons were extinct? All those dragons are just consequence of the magical experiments from 2. By the presence of the Abyss in them it implies the Dark were part of the process of creating and animating them.
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>>335728589
Had to double take because I thought I recognized that attack, now I can't stop hearing the scream in my head.
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>>335742531

This, there are no dragons in souls 3. Well, i suppose there is one but it appears to be dead, the massive dragon resting on top of the mountain next to archdragon peak.
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>>335742123
>And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might.
Where does everyone get this from? Hawkwood doesn't say that, and I feel like he's saying they made him a Lord of Cinder, not because of the honor and nobleness of it, but to further empower Aldritch. I really don't think they're saying it's just a title and he didn't link the flame. He does the same phase two burning embers mode Yhorm does and we KNOW he linked the flame.
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>>335742618
And Nameless King pet friend, Stormruler.
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Are the Crystal Sages supposed to be male, or female? I've been referring to them as her but a friend said he thought they were guys, and I can't find anything anywhere that genders them.
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>>335742123
Senpai, all Hawkwood is saying is that you can be the evilest motherfucker in the entire world and still be a Lord of Cinder, being heroic or not doesn't matter at all, since the only requirement is strength
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>>335742691
I agree with your interpretation of it, but he does say that.
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>>335742691

Yes he does.

https://youtu.be/3ZnPNhhVWxo?t=59s
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>>335742292
That would explain where the fuck dragons keep coming from.

In DS1 you suposedly find the last of their kind, then is DS2 you find a shitload of drakes and one big dragon that doesn't really look like a dragon. And now there's a bunch of them dead just lying around near Lothric. So, I think it's safe to say that the original DS1 dragons were fucked into oblivion by the lords and that were fighting abominations made from human souls.

Maybe.

Probably not.
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Welcome home, Ashen one
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>>335735240
A carton? You fucking loony
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>>335742691
>>335742825
Lothric didn't Link any Flame and is considered a Lord of Cinder as well. Has second phase Ember and all.
A Lord of Cinder doesn't have to Link the Flame. Just have a powerfull Soul.
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>>335742726

It isn't a dragon, it's a drake.
Curved sword imbued with the strength of the Stormdrake.

The Nameless King, ally of the ancient dragons, fought beside the Stormdrake in countless battles. When the great beast fell, the king claimed his soul, as was the custom in the age of gods.

Skill: Tornado

Imbue blade with the wrath of storm in a spinning motion, and follow with a strong attack to bear that wrath upon foes.


>Stormdrake
>>
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>>335742825
This.

I think he meant that the only requirement to link the flame is that you can kick the Soul of Cinder's ass.
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