So I just beat Dark beast Paarl.
At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
Because right now it's basically an easier Victorian Dark Souls II locked at 30 fps.
I mean don't get me wrong, the game is beautiful, but this is not comparable to Dark Souls III and certainly not the original Dark Souls.
So does it get better?
>>335716525
It doesn't get better. It stays roughly at that level.
It's good, but the whole "Bloodborne is best souls" meme is just Sonyggers desperately trying g to justify their purchase. Pl3ase tell me you're at least a partial idort. You sound reasonable.
>>335716654
Yes I have a PC and an Xbone as well.
I was completely sideline getting good a Wii U but it's pretty much confirmed dead at this point.
>>335716525
>At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
It doesnt.
>>335716525
copypas
>Best final boss in soulsborne:
Soul of Cinder
>Most versatile boss in soulsborne
Soul of Cinder
>Most spectacular boss in soulsborne
Nameless King
>Best music
Twin Princes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s [Embed]
>Best atmosphere in a boss
Oceiros, Consumed King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4KjLWUZkbU [Embed]
>Most beautiful areas in soulsborne:
Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, Archdragon Peak
>No soul memory unlike DaS2, therefore pvp is better
>Best bosses in any first release content for a souls game
Pontiff Sulayvahn, Abyss Watchers, Aldrich, Dancer of the Boreal valley, Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armour, Twins, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King
>every single boss feels unique from one another, none feel redundant
>Best consistency in area design of any soulsborne game
>Best area in any soulsborne game, Lothric Castle/Grand Archives
>best Npc's in any soulsborne game
And a laundry list of BB's flaws to discredit it further:
>One Reborn, celestial emissary, micolash, rom, wet nurse, shadows of yharnam, and the majority of the shitty chalice dungeon bosses being awful
>Chalice dungeons existing and being unused potential
>healing system is atrocious, and always nags on you, removes game flow
>having to teleport TWICE to go to area to area or even reset an area
>rune system in BB is massively inferior to rings
>Arcane is underdeveloped, hunters tools have nowhere near the versatility or utility that dark souls has in terms of defensive, offensive and general function miracles/pyromancies/sorceries justifying all the points into intelligence/faith
>arcane at launch was largely justified by meaningless weapon scaling
>games content at launch was depressingly short
>everything after amelia in the release game is awful except ebrietas, logarius and gehrman
BB babbies justify their game solely through the DLC, which was actually good, but let's not pretend for even a second that what was launched originally wasn't shit.
What, you think there's an objective measurment of how good a game is and bloodborne scored higher than dark souls on it?
>>335716654
Salty pcuck NEVER EVER STAY KEKED AHAHAH
>>335716525
DELETE THIS THREAD OP
>>335716525
>At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
The DLC.
>>335716525
>At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
Since beggining? I also liked it much more than DaS1.
>>335717063
>Dancer
>attacks once every 50 years
>best boss ever in a souls game
>>335717092
>Salty pcuck
To the contrary
>>335717063
>Best boss
>Nameless King
Also just stop with these cancer console wars threads jesus fucking christ.
>>335716525
The DLC is god-tier.
>>335717241
>>335717241
DELETE THIS
I hated it until I beat it honestly.
Then I got a weird urge to replay it like crazy, actually use the gun-parries that I'd been ignoring, try the DLC, hunt the items needed for the True ending, try the Chalice Dungeons which were way better than I expected though I wish they scaled with NG+.
It may be better than DaS1 if the content I keep bumping into surprises me like it has been.
Rom is a fucking faggot who should never have been made though.
Have you been to Hemwick Charnel Lane yet OP?
That's one of the areas I really loved even on my first playthrough.
Feels like the RE4 Village.
>>335717063
Twin princes is up there O and S's. What a great track. And some people really are fighting this boss with summons for the first time. I can't believe it.
>>335717241
Oh noes, DaS3 confirmed for better than BB. How could I never noticed that?
>>335717241
It triggers me that bloodborne is on the left while it's on the right on the note.
>>335717514
... DaS3 is PS4 game. You know that?
>>335717063
>Oceiros
>best atmosphere
Not even motherfucking close, familia.
No! Nooooope!
Nonononono no nknonononononknonk!
I'm not listening LALALALALALALALALA!
SHUT UP OP!
BLOODBORNE IS THE GREATEST GAME OF THE MODERN WORLD! OUR CITIZENS CANE!
NOTHING ON XTURD OR PIIU U CAN BE!
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IT'S OUR!
OURS!
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>>335717723
but bloodborne is an exclusive therefore it has to be better pcuck
>>335717834
Are you ok?
Like always:
>ITT: people who haven't played Bloodborne
>>335717241
>eruopoor
>valid opinion
tee-hee
>all these salty pc cucks
I'm sure you get our scraps if you beg hard enough. Time for a petition, maybe?
>>335717847
Well, it got higher notes than DaS3 :^)
>>335717241
Terrible opinion. You're likely still affected by recent release hype, like most. Bloodborne is a year old and still considered the best Soulslike by most.
>>335717892
>>335717978
>>335718000
>Terrible opinion. You're likely still affected by recent release hype, like most. Bloodborne is a year old and still considered the best Soulslike by most.
Well, we're entitled to our own opinions, but let's not skew the facts. Dark Souls 3 is far more popular with the masses.
>>335718235
NOOOOOO
>>335717241
kek
>>335718205
>multiplatform
>third and final entry in a renowned series
Of course it is. It's also still affected by newly released hype.
>>335718343
>Xbone
>>335718343
>>335718235
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>335718385
It's more popular on PS4 as well. It's sales trajectories are far ahead of Bloodborne's
>>335716654
This, whenever I hear anyone give their opinion on exclusives I just flat out ignore it, because everyone and their subgroup is always inflating the shit out of them, average becomes good, good becomes great, great becomes best of all time, it's fucking useless.
>>335718343
I changed my mind.
For real, Bloodborne is a great game, buy outside of its viduals, it doesn't hold up to the souls games.
>>335718578
For exactly the same reasons stated in that post. New IPs generally sell less than established franchises. DaS3 is incredibly forced and uninspired. At least they will move on to new IPs now.
>>335718484
Xbox is just as worth owning as PS4 at this point.
>>335718701
There is that then there is you sour graping
>>335717063
BB is better than both DaS3 and DaS1.
DaS3:
>linear as fuck, more so than any other game in the franchise
>heavily favours R1 spam, weapon arts not doing enough to offer deeper weapon movesets
>movesets aren't as deep as BB. No running heavy/light attacks. 1-handing/2-handing attacks don't flow like transformation atttacks
>poor weapon balance. Straight swords have no business being as powerful as they are.
>magic is weak. Linear level design means you're stuck with a very limited selection of spells until near the end of the game.
>graphics are weaker than BB even maxed on my pc. Lacks the post processing and visual polish of BB. Textures are poor and environments are often sparse.
>weak bosses. Most are piss easy and rife with gimmicks, even going as far as to steal gimmicks from DeS that make no sense here. Nameless King is extremely overated: first phase is pure filler and the second is your standard easily-stunned knight.
>hardcore pandering to bank on DaS1 nostalgia. Too many characters are copy/pastes of previous NPCs with new names. Too many levels feel like a less-good "homage" to previous levels.
>game is short and lacking optional content. The little optional content is low of quality. Old Izalith is literally made using chalice dungeon assets.
>forgettable music outside of the title theme.
>healing is too forgiving. You can hold up to 15 estus flasks (5 less than BB while healing considerably more than BB's fixed 40%).
>luck is worse than it was in DeS somehow.
>vitality is also useless given how weak armour is in DaS3 making this the only Souls game with 2 dump stats.
Retards and plebs who don't know any better will tell you it's "le best gaem" because the DaS1 pandering got them in their "feels", but anyone with taste will tell you it's barely better than DaS2, if at all.
>>335717063
>Best atmosphere in a boss
>Oceiros, Consumed King
No, just... no
>>335718908
>R1
Sonygger confirmed
>>335718985
>not R1
PCuck spotted
>>335719032
>posts just bloodborne
Uh, anon, you're supposed to try to win the argument, not lose it
>>335716525
DSII worst souls
>>335719147
Wrong again.
Idort master race.
I play all multiplat souls games on PC with the X1 controller
>>335719224
Look at them all staring down at it.
Judging it.
>>335719260
>Idort
>play on PC
PCuck confirmed
>>335718908
I agree with everything you said.
>>335719224
worst meme
>>335718809
Let's not pretend Bloodborne is a totally new, out-of-left-field IP here guy. Literally everyone knew it was a Souls game.
>>335719224
>DaS2
>shit
It maybe worst Souls game but it isn't even bad or medicore. DaS2 is shit is /v/ meme
>>335718813
PS4 has bloodborne
xbone has ?
>>335719224
DS3 deserves to be down there with it 2bh
>>335717808
Yes, it really is.
>>335717143
Looked like Hagrid from the thumbnail
>>335719521
/v/ has standards
>>335716654
>Literally the worst souls game in the trilogy
>Better then Bloodborne
Love this fucking meme.
>>335719692
No, it really fucking isn't. Not even the best atmosphere in it's own game.
>even bothering buying it
Why?
>>335716525
>Because right now it's basically an easier Victorian Dark Souls II locked at 30 fps
Yeah, bro. It's totally a Victorian Dark Souls II, if you ignore the complete overhaul to the entire fucking gameplay.
Also, that's not a timestamp. Fuck you, and fuck your shitty bait thread.
>>335717063
>boss feels unique from one another, none feel redundant
Fucking lol
>guy with two swords pulls off a twenty hit combo that you have to keep dodging like a retard before landing a single hit, repeat about 100 times
>>335719614
HALO 16
>>335719224
Is it the worst souls? Yes it is even remotly bad? Hell no. Best 2014 game, even vanilla.
>>335719767
>/v/ has standards
>Every shit game with lolis or pedo sex is considered good.
>>335719894
>wolf like monster with claws lunges at you three times in a row, reapeat about 100 times
>>335716525
I'm going to be honest. For the time being it's just crazy werewolves and victorian shit.
Keep playing since the atmosphere gets 4 times better and all goes lovecraftian-ish.
Best part about Bloodborne is the DLC no doubt, I'll go as far as saying it's a must play no matter how much it costs you to get it.
The base game is comparable to DaS 1 in quality but I still prefer DaS1, whoever oif you add the old hunters DLC it jumps all the way to best in the series and I'm 100% sure everyone that says bloodborne is the best are actually saying the DLC is the best
>>335716753
But you bought an Xbone? If you like the games Wii U has, get one, we don't know if NX will be BC.
>>335718908
Nah mate.
Bloodborne was much shorter than DaS3 on release, and it's not like it actually ever did anything interesting with it's world design like dark souls 1, see my image for reference.
>Heavily favours r1 spam
You literally just described bloodborne for the most part
>Movesets aren't as deep
This is made up for by the much, much wider variety of spells, utility effects, and the large amount of unique weapons. I'll agree their condensed and refined in BB, but BB's weapons were also hugely lacking at the release period in terms of variety in visual aesthetics, and several transformed-untransformed being redundant, see the chikage for one example.
>magic is weak, not really
>graphics are weaker than BB
The best part about DaS3's graphics in comparison to BB is the lack of visual mud like chromatic aberration and the various filters BB uses.
>Weak bosses
Wow, you just described like nearly all of Bloodborne's release bosses except 3 or 4!
>Nameless King overrated
Right, the fantastic first phase design, arguably one of the most realised dragon riding concepts in the series is "overrated", the visual spectacle is fucking intense, the fight is amazing even if you didn't find it difficult.
>Hardcore pandering to
literally called dark souls 3, and the "pandering" as you call it is how a sequel should make use of the games lore and does really well at expanding it and introducing more into a new game.
>game is short
BB at release was literally the shortest game in the series
>optional content of low quality, I agree on demon ruins specifically, but smouldering lake, consumed king garden/untended graves and archdragon peak were all pretty great areas.
>Forgettable music
Lol no.
Soul of Cinder, Abyss Watchers, Lothric/Lorian, Nameless King, Dragonslayer Armour, Dancer of the boreal Valley, Pontiff Sulayvahn, The Gundyr's, deacons of the deep, vordt and Yhorm disagree with you heavily.
>Healing is too forgiving
Better than insta heal
Character Limit
>>335719614
PS4 has more than just Bloodborne.
Disgaea 5 and N++ are also good
Xbone has Killer Instinct, Halo MCC, Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4, and all those windows 10/X1 games which are basically X1 games because only an idiot would get windows 10.
Both consoles have games worth playing.
>>335716654
This lack of self-awareness. You're doing the exact same thing from the other side of the aisle. A person can't even say that they think Bloodborne/Demon's Soulsis the best game in the series without being called a Sonygger. I wish people like you would fuck off from this fanbase forever.
>>335717158
It was a fun fight. You get hit twice and you're dead.
>>335718000
>Bloodborne is a year old and still considered the best Soulslike by most.
lol
>>335717063
>soul of cinder
>best anything
this has to end
>>335720085
>RH to FH is teleportation
Stopped reading there.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>335720097
I have Windows 10.
>>335720180
It's fun fight but it's nowhere near GOAT level.
>>335717063
>Best atmosphere in a boss
>Oceiros, Consumed King
>the Ludwig clone
>best atmosphere
t. guy who watched Bloodborne on twitch
>>335719989
You're the one making the argument that every DS3 enemy is super special unique retard.
For fucks sake DS3 even rips off Bloodborne for its hardest enemies.
>>335720097
But those games are better played on something else or don't require you blow $350 on the new machine to play. You could play a lot of them on the console you already own. Their problem is a lack of original and exclusive games, far too many rereleases and multiplats. They have a handful of games between them that make the consoles worth buying.
Demon's Souls = Ruby
Dark Souls = Pyrrha
Dark Souls II = Blake
Bloodborne = Weiss
Dark Souls III = Yang
>>335720413
>Ludwig clone
lol keep reaching
>>335720636
desu Ocerios plays more like BSB
>>335716525
I'm struggling with BB myself right now. Just finished doing the whole souls series and decided to finally give BB a go and I just don't like it at all. It's missing something souls had and I just can't put my finger on it.
>>335720636
Take Ludwig and swap his phases and you have Oceiros 100%.
if there are numbers after the title its GARBAGE!
>>335720414
>criticizing a Souls game for ripping off bloodborne
We've reached a newer level of Sonygger desperation
>>335720714
>It's missing something souls had and I just can't put my finger on it
Shit combat and a rehashed aesthetic.
Bloodborne's my favourite personally, but I like all the games.
DaS3 kind of disappointed me, but I think it's just because everything in the game had been done already in other games of the series by that point, it didn't really add anything new other than weapon arts, which are quite a disappointment compared to trick weapons IMO.
The biggest issue I have is the setting, this is the 4th game to have the same medeival setting which has gotten incredibly stale. Not just that, but each area follows a theme that has already been previously done.
>village
>church
>forest
>swamp
>castle
>firey area
>catacombs
It follows the exact same themes as what we've seen 3 or 4 times before and no area other than Irithyl really stuck out to me, and when you actually get inside Irithyl the level design is incredibly linear and disappointing.
In terms of world design, 3's feels the most disconnected other than 2, which I don't understand since Bloodborne went back to the way DaS1's world was connected..
Now onto weapons, yes there are a lot, certainly a lot more than Bloodborne, but there's also a huge issue here;
1) Half the weapons and armour are literally copy/pasted from DaS1 and 2. Now you may think "Well I don't care, I'm happy to have my weaponfu from DaS1 back!". That's fair, but it's still lazy as fuck and no reason that there should be less NEW weapons just because they added a ton of old ones.
2) Most of the weapons have the exact same moveset, and 80% are made literally redundant by the end, as you find vastly superior versions that make the others useless.
3) Weapons arts are incredibly limited, most of the time almost every single weapon in a class has the exact same art. Now you may say "Oh but that takes too many resources to give more weapons unique arts!", and you'd be right IF half the weapons in the game and their movesets weren't copy pasted from DaS1 and 2 exactly as they were with minimal change.
>>335720751
No, you really don't.
>>335720316
My sincerest of apologies, you see, I hastily added the DLC post image design
>>>335720413
>ludwig clone
Welp, you confirmed you've watched it on twitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4KjLWUZkbU
>>335717063
>Every boss feels unique from one another
I'm not a DaS3 hater (I actually really enjoy it) but I don't really agree with your statement. There are a lot of similar bossfights and there's a lot of similar mechanics as well.
Vordt = Oceiros
Pontiff (1st phase) = Dancer = Abyss Watchers (2nd phase) = Soul of Cinder = Twin princes (1st phase)
Pontiff (2nd phase) = Twin princes (2nd phase
Crystal Sage = Aldrich (without the occasional swordswing)
>>335720828
Yes, you really do.
I've only played DS3 and Bloodborne but for me DS3 is a much better game than bloodborne.
>>335720820
Maybe, I know I don't like the combat for sure. The weapon options are bland, the dodge system doesn't feel as intuitive, and I really dislike the soul drop/recovery system they've got going on.
>>335720826
>game series set in medieval fantasy
>complains about game series having longswords, halberds, partizans and other typical medieval weapons
The retardation is strong within you. Please, consider suicide.
>>335718908
>linear level design
You're confusing it with Bloodborne you dumbfuck.
>>335716525
>At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
the part where you get to the boss that's better than Iudex Gundyr, what was that boss called again? oh yeah: ALL OF THEM.
>>335721042
>posts one of the most linear maps in the game
Door does not open from this side.
>>335721025
No, retard. I'm saying what Bloodborne's missing is shit combat and a rehashed aesthetic.
As in, it does not have either of those things, like Souls does.
>>335721229
Oh, in that case, fuck you.
>>335716525
OBJECTIVE RANKINGS
BB > DaSIII > DeS > DaS >>> DaSII
>>335721042
There's literally one way to play through that level.
>>335721171
>Multiple paths/shortcuts that lead back to the bonfire as you explore the area
I'm sorry, isn't this how it should be instead of just finding a series of bonfires along a more linear route?
>>335721398
Nigger, you're the retard who thinks Souls has better combat or dodge system than BB.
>>335721171
>Most linear area
>Forgetting the high wall, the castle, the catacombs, anor londo, dark firelink, dragon area, demons ruins,
It is literally all linear, also the path to get there is pretty shit as well, you have to go do decons, you have to kill 3 lords to access the library. Instead of branching paths coming around to connect to other areas they just end each time.
>>335720918
Nope. Oceiros' dialogue is actually significant too, unlike le guiding memelight xD
>>335720909
Your answers have some basis, but they're incredibly reaching in almost every way.
I'll start with the one I take most issue with:
Crystal Sage = Aldrich
Crystal Sage's big gimmick is that it spawns in clones, the attacks it uses are nothing like Aldrich's.
Aldrich uses bow attacks when you're at a distance, followed by the sweeping magic blast, when you are up close he will switch to the distended snake like melee movement, before slamming his sword in the ground to activate an aoe and to justify teleportation.
Vordt and Oceiros are fucking nothing alike.
Oceiros's second phase is all about going fucking mental and flying around everywhere like a deranged dragon.
Vordt's second phase is all about becoming a literal wrecking ball, and stays primarily focussed on using his mace to attack, with the few additional moves.
Pontiff and Twin princes second phase are literally nothing alike, have you even played the game?
Twin Princes second phase features lothric on Lorian's back, this is to account for eachother's weaknesses, lorian is protecting lothric, while lothric is now directly adding magic to the battle on the same "boss" essentially. Whereas pontiff splits in to two of the same forms, which telegraph themselves by use of double attacks, which is a unique as fuck idea.
Pontiff is literally nothing like the dancer's first phase, if you actually played the game you'd know that his dancing like motions and pirouetting moves are much more comparable to the dancer's beyblade like area spinning move. Abyss watchers second phase is much more comparable to maria and soul of cinder's second phase.
Comparing Pontiff to lorian is fucking ridiculous as well, Lorian is teleported around and uses slow attacks from mid range, and vicious but, wasteful attacks at close, something pontiff never does.
Soul of cinder, though, that takes the cake.
You are fucking retarded.
Soul of cinder's first phase is literally four different movesets.
>>335721171
That's every shortcut in the series.
How is it linear retard?
I don't think you know what that word means.
>>335721423
Wow so many possibillities, look at all those dead ends. And you even get a shard if you go there!
>>335721042
Rosarias bedchamber, wait wtf? I didn't reach that room. Gg From.
>>335721573
>unlike le guiding memelight xD
Kill yourself
>>335721430
>isn't this how it should be
Are you serious with this shit?
>locked door near a bonfire
Oh shit, guess where i'll be looping back to within the next few minutes.
Boring, predictable garbage.
>>335720097
>the W10 games don't count cuz I said so
lolk, justify your purchase however you want, even if it's wrong
>>335721423
>posts the largest map in the game
>still nothing interesting to do there
>>335716525
>Victorian Dark Souls II locked at 30 fps.
Nice meme faggot
>>335721657
>I don't explore every level before moving on
Why even play these games then?
>>335721737
It's full of Runes
I prefer BB.
DaS3 had more to dislike than like for me while BB scratched an itch I didn't know I had when it comes to atmosphere and setting.
I hope you can find enjoyment in it, OP.
>>335721737
There's loads of shit to find in forbidden woods.
>tfw Nioh is much more enjoyable than DS3 was
>>335721737
>nothing interesting to do there
>joining the league isn't interesting
>fighting the suspicious beggar isn't interesting
>discovering the ladder that leads you all the way back to very first room and allows you to discover exactly what the fuck is going on in the clinic isn't interesting
You're embarrassing yourself.
Honestly if you can actually say that you think that more than one DaS game is more enjoyable than Bloodborne and Demon Souls its almost definitely because you didn't own a PS3 or PS4
If you come into this series and enjoy playing the same game 3 times more than you enjoy both the original entry AND a fresh take on the franchise in a more interesting setting you're just talking out of your ass
>>335721531
>high wall
>castle
>catacombs
>archdragon peak
Not linear at all, you're a retard. High Wall is probably one of the less linear areas because you can kill the Dancer as soon as you get to Emma.
>>335719723
You dun in nao 'arry Pot'er
>>335721974
I'll never understand these retards who claim the game "goes to shit" after Vicar Amelia. Forbidden Woods is a huge change of pace at that point in the game.
>>335721737
First off you're wrong but second off not only is there more to do there but there's literally a place to get carted off to a secret fucking castle in this area too
>>335721859
Yep BB is my favorite. After having played DS3 I once again remember how 60% of the weapons are useless and how terrible the magic system is. I felt like each weapons in BB was its own build.
>>335721982
Yharnam never interested me as much as Lordran did desu
>>335722091
that's hemwick lane
>>335721982
No, anon. You're just a sonygger for enjoying those games.
You see, it doesn't matter that DeS started the whole series or that BB completely restructured and refined the formula. What matters is that those games are exclusive to Sony consoles, ergo, you only like them for that reason.
Fucking sonynigger.
>>335722032
It has branches but there is only one real path thorough it. You have to get past the dragon, you have to go past the big knight, you have to pass by the tar monster, you have to go past the fat knight, you have to fight the boss. Also, fight a boss you have to fight anyways early is not a whole new dimension to the area.
>>335722078
>there are actually people who dislike the Amygdala light show
shouldn't be allowed to breed
>>335722078
People actually say that?
Fuck, Byrgenwerth and the Lecture Hall are some of my favorite areas in the series and you can only reach them after Amelia. Yahar'Gul pre-Rom too, but there is a Sack dude that can kill you before Amelia, so I'm not sure where that falls.The only level I'd put as top tier from DaS3 is Latria 2.0, aka Irithyll dungeons.
>>335722078
It's literally a meme. Whenever someone says "BB goes to shit after Amelia" or "BB is shit without TOH", you can safely assume they haven't played the game.
why does everyone jerk off over the old hunters? i thought it was way too easy of a dlc and the bosses weren't that great. only boss that took me more than one try was the orphan and i killed him on my second try.
>>335721786
Oh I'm sorry I didn't find everything in the game mr dildo.
>>335722371
>People actually say that?
Shitposters do.
One thing no one ever mentions is the NPC/phantoms. Hunters in BB could fuck you up if you don't know what you're doing but I found the NPC phantoms in DaS3 to be complete pushovers for the most part.
>>335716525
FFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKKKKKKKKING NOW.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>335722469
It's not shit without TOH but there's certainly less good stuff afterwards. Logarius and Gehrman are like the only real quality bosses in the latter half of vanilla BB.
>>335716525
>At what point doe this game get better than Dark Souls III?
Never.
It will struggle to be better than DaS II
>>335722563
Did you take the lift up to the roof?
You unlock it the same time you unlock the second chapel door. There's no reason not to explore and light Rosaria's bonfire.
>>335722371
Honestly, how is byrgenwerth even remotely interesting to you outside of the gay ass lore shit
It's like 1 actual building, a couple of enemies with annoyingly bloated health and a boss that is one of the absolute worst in the series.
Lecture building, and nightmare frontier were pretty shit in my opinion too.
I wholeheartedly get why people think there is a noticeable drop in quality after amelia, especially in terms of bosses.
Just a shit area overall.
I enjoyed BB, but there were several areas in DaS3 that were just as good and maybe even better, archdragon peak, irithyll, lothric castle, and cathedral of the deep.
>>335722371
Byrgenwerth and Lecture Hall were so cool when i first arrived but the actually size and content in the two was kinda disappointed given that they're basically just vessels to the nightmares
Cainhurst blew me away though, not only is it a cool as shit setting with rare items and a hidden area after the boss, you can only get there through the summons letter and the cart.
>>335718000
>by most.
Not even close. I wouldn't say it's the second best either.
Now onto bosses. DaS3 has a really mixed bag of bosses, it tries to recapture some of the old DeS 'gimmicky' bosses, but it comes off as a poor imitation or just plain outright bad.
>Sages is a Fools Idol rehash
>Greatwood is an Adjudicator rehash
>Yhorm is a Storm King rehash
>Old Demon King is another Stray Demon rehash
>Oceiros is just a poor man's Blood-Starved Beast except pukes crystals instead of poison
>Deacons is terrible
>Wolnir is terrible
>Ancient Wyvern is terrible
>Pontiff while good, rehashes the trick
There were very few new and unique feeling bosses. The only ones I felt I hadn't already beaten in a previous game were
>Champion Gungyr
>Dancer
>Princes
>Soul of Cinder
>Dragonslayer Armour (an actual knight in armour boss that felt unique, fucking shocking)
These were all great fights. I'd put Pontiff there too, but he felt too much like Darklurker in the second phase.
>>335716525
>easier Dark Souls II
sounds like Iudex "Dead in 6 Hits" Gundyr.
>>335722682
t. uninspired shitposter
>>335722783
>and a boss that is one of the absolute worst in the series.
At least Rom could actually pose a threat, unlike Decons, Crystal Sage or Greatwood.
>>335720085
Good god, haven't seen this much dick riding for a game before.
>>335721982
I played them all and DaS 1 is the most fun because of the world design and sheer variety. Bloodborne has like zero replayability and DeS has shit like world tendency and stone grinding that are a major pain in the ass. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
>one year later and the pcucks are still salty
Bloodborne is the gift that keeps on giving.
>>335722783
>gay ass lore shit
Stop playing these games. You don't deserve them.
>>335722783
>lothric castle
>better than anything
'no'
It's kind of funny how DaS3 has some of the best bosses in the series but also some of the worst ones.
>>335722689
I just looked at a vid on its whereabouts, I think I skipped that corner with the ladder desu. I don't really remember, I usually check most sideroutes and I've downed all the optional bosses and think I've found most secret walls etc. but I apparently just missed a whole part of the Cathedral.
>>335716654
>tfw bloodborne truly is my favourite, don't care about Sony and would kill to get it on PC
>people just assume I'm either a PCuck, Sonygger or Falseflagging
Legitimately one of my all time favourite games, it hits so many high notes for me and I find Souls games mind numbingly easy at this point that the action elements of BB just feel better. PvP is terrible, though.
>>335722958
BB being how short it is let me replay it quite a few times. There are plenty of branches you can hit early. What kills it for me in DS is when I beat O&S I lose all will to go on, it is either bullshit or boring ass enemies from then on.
>>335717834
I hate this website.
>>335723087
what exactly were some of the best bosses because i count three. soul of cinder. lothric and lorian, and the nameless king. everything else i killed in at max 3 tries and a lot of them i killed on my first.
>>335722956
You've never been in Bloodborne threads then? ',:^)
>>335723252
Twin princes and pontiff I guess
>>335722958
>Bloodborne has like zero replayability
I've replayed Bloodborne more than any other Souls.
Replayability comes in the form of weapon variety and moveset, and the combat is so rewarding and satisfying.
Arcane, beast, bloodtinge are all widely different and making a build just to main these things is also insanely fun.
>>335722839
I disagree about pontiff, the move telegraphing and focus on melee made it much more like you were fighting 1.5 bosses rather than 2.
How is Greatwood an adjudicator rehash? That's a bit of a reach.
I disagree about Oceiros, mechanically the fight felt more like fighting a small reptile/dragon than anything resembling a clawed beast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BMVgkz4Fs
>Deacons
It's literally the best mob boss From has ever done
>Old demon king
Maybe the first phase, but the pretty lava effects and moves, combined with the aggressiveness made this feel a lot better.
I get where you are coming from, but I feel like you are more tired of the bosses in general more than anything.
>>335721642
Aldritch and Sage will fire homing shit and big soul arrows at you from a distance
Oc doesnt fly around because there is no room in the arena, he just tries to run you over, the same way Vordt does.
Pontiff and Lothric have different gimmicks for their fights but their attack patterns are basically the same: dodge their flurry of 2-4 attacks and attack and roll.
>Soul of cinder's first phase is literally four different movesets.
Which doesnt really make a difference, because they are just movesets of different enemies that you encounter during the game
>>335716525
ITT: Dark Slows scrubs that can't get used to BB's improved, faster paced and superior combat
>>335722958
>and sheer variety
If you're claiming variety makes DaS1 the best, then you're inadvertently saying DaS2 is actually the best game in the series, because it has 10x the weapons, armour and build variety of both DaS1 and 3.
>>335723301
No I haven't, because I've never played it, but I played dark souls 3 recently, and all I could think was 'Dark souls 1 did this better'
its a fine game, sure. But the absolute ball-cupping post you made before was just embarrassing.
>>335723028
From the perspective of someone who enters the area for the first time and fully explores it, byrgenwerth is absolutely shit.
The lore might be interesting, but it in no way accounts for how underdeveloped the entire area is.
>>335723252
There's more to a boss fight than difficulty, unless you're a prepare to le die memelord.Some BB bosses were easy as shit too and I still loved a bunch
>>335719834
How can Bloodborne be better than itself?
>all these plebs with pleb editions
step it up you faggots
Bloodborne is my favourite, played all of them since the release of DeS.
All of the games that aren't sequels have merit. Both of the sequels felt kind of weak, I would have rather had X souls or Y borne instead.
DS3 has a lot going for it, but I'm not a big fan of a large chunk of the game just being callbacks. The weapon balance is possibly the worst it has ever been and weapon arts are practically useless.
I'm sure by the time both dlcs are out ds3 will be great, but for now I just consider it good.
>>335723504
I'm not that guy but okay.
dark souls 1 > bloodborne (close first) > dark souls 3 (very close second) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dark souls 2 (both versions)
never had a ps3 so didnt play demons souls dont shoot me
>>335720085
Having a green line and a black line for CW to Y'G is dumb. If you can make the run, then the initial teleport doesn't really matter.
>>335723443
ITT: sonyggers defending DMC3/4's retarded little cousin Bloodborne.
>>335723601
good goy
>>335723418
>How is Greatwood an adjudicator rehash? That's a bit of a reach.
It's another 'hit the weakspot to get the boss to fall over so you can hit another weakspot' piece of shit. Very boring.
>mechanically the fight felt more like fighting a small reptile/dragon than anything resembling a clawed beast.
Not really, the thrashing moves it does are straight out of BSB's move roster. If anything it felt like a mix between BSB and Seath.
>It's literally the best mob boss From has ever done
Even Rom was a better mob boss, because it could actually kill you and the spiders could pose a threat.
Deacons was even shittier and easier than Pinwheel.
>but the pretty lava effects and moves, combined with the aggressiveness made this feel a lot better.
Yeah, it basically them just turns into a poor man's Laurence during the second phase with the lava gimmick.
I think FROM just needs to take a step back, pumping out these games in such quick succession has clearly impacted their creativity.
>>335723761
>implying any of those cost more than the regular price for the game
>>335723601
>all on Playstation
Boy, now there's an opinion I should take seriously :^)
>>335716753
>PC and Xbone
>Xbone and PS4
for what purpose?
PS4 covers all the console exclusive multiplats
1/2 of Xbone "exclusives" are also on PC
just for halo and gears of war?
>>335723149
The DLC is great. Duke's is good and ToB is decent. The only downright bad part is Lost Izalith.
>>335723401
You always end up with the same role in combat, that doesn't do much for me.
>>335723451
Quantity isn't quality. I meant variety also referring to areas, and the way they connect just makes it a far better experience in comparison to 2's world and level design to me.
>>335723535
for a boss fight i go strictly on mechanics and difficulty i count music and atmosphere as entirely different beasts. seath for example has great music and a bright, vibrant atmosphere but he was a pretty easy boss. manus has an almost all black arena like the four kings (i know the abyss is black) had i guess alright music but was super challenging probably one of the hardest bosses i've fought.
>>335723863
>pre-ordering
good goy
>>335723435
>3:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSV2EGJLRgs
Aldrich and Sage are not similar other than that they both use magic, this entire point is ridiculous.
Pontiff and Lorian's first phase are not alike.
Get to a distance from pontiff and he will either initiate a long combo and fuck you up, (like 6-8 moves) or use his magic weapon.
Get to a distance with lorian and he will crawl towards you, then eventually get teleported, initiate 3 swipe attacks, not spinning like pontiff, a slam attack or a medium distance sword plunge, every once in a while he will teleport away to activate the charge slam.
I get the feeling you are either severely lacking in memory capacity, or didn't actually experience the fight.
>>335723990
Fair enough I suppose.
>>335720414
Souls vs Blood is such a strange argument. They're made by the same people with minor gameplay variances between them.
>>335723435
Thanks for supporting my arguments, I think I just made a Frombebby rage. I don't really care though, people that don't see the obvious similarities are just blind. It doesn't make the game less enjoyable for me, although I would've liked some more non-swordswiping knight like bosses.
>inb4 hurrdurr medieval setting
There are a lot of examples of nice non-swordmowing bossfights.
>>335723892
>Quantity isn't quality
I love how this argument is only applicable when defending DaS1, meanwhile BB has the highest quality in the series, but the least quantity other than DeS.
Typical fanboy contradiction at its finest.
>>335716654
>>335724116
>or didn't actually experience the fight.
You're right about that, I used a dark sword to steamroll bosses after they left themselves open after they do their missed combos
>>335723867
Sonyggers are the only people who've played every game in the series, so really theirs is the only opinion you should take seriously.
>>335724158
Oh one more think, why does everyone keep defending the Oceiros fight. It was literally a meme asshugging fight which also seem to have its glitches. At one point in the fight he literally got stuck in an alcove and I could slash away at him for 10 seconds. And no, it was not after his frenzied charge.
>>335724189
>BB has the highest quality in the series
That's like your opinion, and it's not the most popular one, so by definition it's you who's being the contrarian fanboy.
>>335724116
>Get to a distance from pontiff and he will either initiate a long combo and fuck you up, (like 6-8 moves) or use his magic weapon.
>Get to a distance with lorian and he will crawl towards you, then eventually get teleported, initiate 3 swipe attacks, not spinning like pontiff, a slam attack or a medium distance sword plunge, every once in a while he will teleport away to activate the charge slam.
so they have basically the same attack patterns then. thanks for confirming for everyone
>>335724380
Same reason Bloodborne fans insist Micolash isn't shit too I suppose.
I thought they were both bad.
>>335723990
It's a hard call, though, because things like Astraea and even O&S wouldn't be as good as they are without their music and atmosphere. And then you have bosses like Miclash, Wolnir, and Storm King that have a great atmosphere to them but are overall less interesting to fight.I think it really just depends on what you're looking for in a battle. It's going to vary from person to person.
I personally didn't find Pontiff or the Princes very good fights and all, nor was I fond of O&S. Opinions.
>>335722091
>>335722227
Lol both areas are so generic even the Sonyfag doesn't remember
>>335718908
>Lacks the post processing and visual polish of BB
That piece of shit cromatic aberration simulator filter absolutealy GRATED on my fucking eyes and I'm fucking glad dark souls 3 ditched it, kill yourself.
>>335723867
I'm sorry you're too poor to afford a used ps3 to play Demon's Souls?
>>335723892
>You always end up with the same role in combat
And you always end up playing the same role in combat with Miracles, Sorceries, Pyromancy and Hexes. They're all the exact same shit with a slightly different cast animation, none of them change how you play at all.
The only things that actually make a difference in how you'd play in DaS are;
>using a shield to block damage
>using roll to dodge damage
It always comes down to
1) Block and attack the opening
2) dodge and attack the opening
3) kite with magic and attack the opening
>>335723435
>Pontiff and Lothric have different gimmicks for their fights but their attack patterns are basically the same: dodge their flurry of 2-4 attacks and attack and roll.
Lorian never attacks 4 times in a row. He doesn't even usually combo his attacks together. Pontiff/Twin princes could not be more different.
>>335724116
Aldritch and Sage both teleport constantly too, so theres that. The gimmicks are slightly different, but in overall the bosses are the same, as their movesets are copied directly from each other or previous bosses in the series.
>>335724546
well sure things like micolash i thought that was a very cool boss fight ibecause the way he acted and the atmosphere made it like that. was he a good BOSS as in very hard enemy i have to say not at all.
>>335717063
>>Best final boss
>Soul of Cinder
Literally muhfeels: the boss. Stop being a pansy and realize the the boss fight was completely underwhelming in every sense of the word. From the non existent build up, to the copypasted movesets, to the way he falls down like a bitch.
>but he turns into gwyn and his song gets mixed in 10/10 best boss ever!
>>335724747
Ok, so bosses attack maybe 2-8 times in a row, miss and leave themselves open to a flurry of attacks from someone wielding a dark sword. Is this adequate enough for you?
>>335723853
>it's another hit the weakspot
Yes, but mechanically otherwise, the fights are nothing alike, this is in terms of how you approach the fight, how it plays out, the arena/visuals, everything is different.
It's literally the equivalent of saying deacons and manus are similar fights because you have to hit them.
>thrashing moves straight out of BSB's move roster
No, if anything Oceiros is much more like Sanctuary guardian with the forward thrusting attacks, sweeping claws, breath attacks and flying attack.
>Even rom
>rom better than anyone
This is literally a case where Difficulty =/= Good
Dukes dear freja is how to do the rom fight well.
Rom has
>Tons of minion spiders who do ridiculously large amounts of damage
>Homing ice crystals that do like 90% health damage, fortunately very easy to dodge
>like 90% health damage aoe attacks
>it will spam these attacks unless you are hugging it at which point you will have to dodge it's spasm
Meanwhile, Deacons is actually a fun boss to fight due to the satisfaction of killing like 17 guys at once, has a fantastic fitting soundtrack, and the mobs actually work together in the second phase, which puts it a millions time ahead of rom.
>Laurence
Lol, the cleric beast reskin with bloated health, AOE's on every attack, weird hitboxes and more 80% health nudges
Top tier game design there.
>>335724698
I like it, I actually wish they hadn't toned it down.
>>335724776
>overall the bosses are the same, as their movesets are copied directly from each other or previous bosses in the series.
so you're telling me that if I made a boss Not-Nito who has all of Nito's moves, and a boss Not-Freja who has all of Freja's moves, they'd be the same?
Are you high?
>>335721573
Ludwig's dialogue is significant too you fucking dipshit. I'm not even a lorefag and I know that shit.
So I shouldn't buy it?
My problems with bloodborne are pretty minor
first off it would be a great looking game but its so dark and so grey that it hurts my fucking eyes
and secondly theres like 8 jump scare or charge from behind queued enemies in every area and it gets really fucking tiresome after the first 2
>>335724893
>Ok, so bosses attack [x] times in a row, miss and leave themselves open
yes, that is how bossfights work in Dark Souls. Well observed, sherlock.
That gaping dragon attacks and then leaves himself open does not mean he's the same boss as Champion Gundyr because he also attacks and leaves himself open. You've abstracted your argument so far away from what the bosses are actually like that you might as well be saying 'they're the same boss because they're both bosses'
>>335720830
>DeS
>Demons souls
I hate the inconsistency.
0/10 would not reference or shitpost with.
>>335724798
Nah, underwhelming would be a final boss like Moon Presence.
>>335724958
of course you should buy it it's a good game don't listen to the pcucks. it's a helluva lot better than ds2 i'll say that.
>>335724958
You should. It's a fun game and if you enjoy Souls you'll probably enjoy it.
>>335724798
>that entrance
>that getting up from the bonfire and charging at you
>oh he's using a longsword
>oh shit he's using a scimitar and pyromancies now
>fuck he's using a spear and miracles now
>here comes the sorceries faze
>kill him thinking it's over
>gwyn theme starts
>he has the fiery greatsword
>go up to parry him
>goes right through me
Glorious in every fucking way, each one of his movesets was different, he must have the most moves in the entire series.
>>335724431
>and it's not the most popular one
>literally listing popularity as a reason a game is 'better'
Yes my man, LoL is the most popular game on the planet, therefore it's clearly superior to everything else right! Excellent logic you have to "prove" your point there.
Bloodborne has far more depth in its combat and weapons than DaS, this is a fact. Each weapon in BB has 2 - 3 times the moveset of the ones in DaS, can be customized far more intricately with Blood Gems than infusion in DaS.
In DaS3 you STILL can't even fucking combo into and out of 2H mode, such a simply god damn feature that makes the combat so much more fluid.
Then there's the fact that 80% of the weapons in DaS games are just the same moveset copy and pasted, except 90% of those weapons are made useless by the end of the game as there's always, ALWAYS 2 - 3 weapons in each class that are outright superior to everything else.
Then how about magic? Man I sure do love 50 versions of Souls Arrow, Soul Mass and Lightning Spear, fucking brilliant!
DaS certain does NOT have quality over quantity.
>>335725058
That is what bosses are like in DS3 though, most bosses even share similar characteristics.
>humanoids
>flaming swords everywhere
>do flurries of pointless attacks to leave themselves open
>get rekt by Dark Swords
>>335724747
What the fuck is the difference between two swordwielding fagmeisters besides the angle or the way they swipe their swords? Right nothing. Just because Lorian teleports and then smashes down at you and pontiff lunges at you to smack you doesn't mean it's a completely different thing. For fuck sake you are really far up From's butthole.
Also Pontiff gets a fuckin phantom and Lorian his brother to help them. You are literally swiping two "bosses" at the same time in both fights. If they would have fuckin separated the Twins and let one fuck you up from a far with magic and the other one with melee now then it would be different. I guess they already used that on Dragonslayer armour tho.
>>335725221
>le MOBAs are shit meme
>>335724902
Deacons are braindead easy. Any heavy weapon can one shot them and you can lead them to the other side of the room or use alluring skulls and kill the archdeacon pretty much with impunity.
>>335725356
I know they're easy.
They're still a better mob focussed boss than any other mob boss in the series.
>>335724928
Abyss Watchers is Not-Maria
Old Demon king is Not-Abyssal demon
Vordt = Oceiros
Crystal Sage = Aldritch
Pontiff = Lorian = All bosses in DS2 that swing around heavy weapons
Cinder = Just a bunch of common movesets from common enemies rolled into one
Maybe I left out a few bosses, but thats how unmemorable DS3 is in general
>>335725356
You don't even need a heavy weapon desu, I swiped the fuck out of them with a straight sword.
>>335725609
You forgot Nameless King = Loran Camerabeast
>>335725554
>They're still a better mob focussed boss than any other mob boss in the series.
This is something to be proud of? Its practically the same shit as that mob fight in DS2 where you also kill cultists
>>335725554
I had way more fun fighting Rom than Deacons.
personally, i think the story and lore is best in BB
>>335725609
You better watch out bro, I already posted this before >>335720909 and people are literally crying and raging.
>>335716654
>justify their purchase
this is valid for other games, but BB is legitimately, objectively a great game
>>335725356
You cant even be swarmed to death by them, because one of them will cast Emit force and knock you to safety
>>335725815
Though I will admit that the Deacons fight has really good atmosphere and music.
>>335724902
>This is literally a case where Difficulty =/= Good
Holy shit you are truly delusional, like impressively so.
You're honestly trying to claim Deacons is anything but absolute trash? I mean I don't particularly like Rom either, but it's definitely a better fight than Deacons by a mile.
>>Tons of minion spiders who do ridiculously large amounts of damage
The entire point of the fight is multitasking the spiders with Roms attacks. Deacons obviously tried to do something similar but failed so hard that it's practically impossible for them to kill you unless you're mentally retarded.
>>Homing ice crystals that do like 90% health damage, fortunately very easy to dodge
You complain about it being difficult, then claim it's easy. What the fuck anon.
>>like 90% health damage aoe attacks
You realise the AoE has a gigantic wind up, right?
>>it will spam these attacks unless you are hugging it at which point you will have to dodge it's spasm
The boss has different attacks it will dynamically change to depending on your current position in the fight, this is somehow a bad thing.
Again, Rom is all bout multitasking which is what makes it at least somewhat challenging.
>You have to constantly be aware of the position of the spiders as they can kill you in 2 hits
>If you opt to kill the spiders first, you have to be constantly looking for sound and visual cues off Rom for his meteor shower, as he won't just let you kill all the spiders freely
>You have to constantly be aware of your distance from him as his attack change depending on that
>when you go up to wail on him you have to be aware that he can thrash and AoE to punish greed
I don't like the boss, but there's no denial it has far more depth to it than Deacons. Deacons was the biggest pile of shit I've ever had the displeasure of playing in this series, literally worse than anything in DaS2.
>>335725609
Which enemies use scimitars and backflip?
Which enemies use soulstream/crystal soulmass/and that other one
Which enemies explode in a giant fiery AoE?don't say those suicide guys
Aldrich was fucking SHIT though.
>>335725609
>logarius is just a priscilla reskin 1/10
>rom is a dukes dear freja rip off
>shadows are a four king reskin
>gascoigne is a just a gwyn rip off
>all the beast bosses are just shitty versions of sanctuary guardian and aava
>yharnam = gwnydolin
>gehrman is just shitty priscilla
>laurence is just flamelurker with fur
These arguments are generally all ridiculous, but they hold just as much weight as yours.
GUYS I LIKE BOTH GAMES STOP ARGUING PLEASE
>>335725221
Nice way to strawman yourself into showing the literal retard you are. I never once never claimed Dark Souls is better because it's more popular
>Bloodborne has far more depth in its combat and weapons than DaS, this is a fact.
Removed equip load, reduced stamina on dodges and parries are far easier and abusable. Hardly 'far more depth'.
>can be customized far more intricately with Blood Gems
You mean using Blood Gems that suit your build? So much customization.
>Then there's the fact that 80% of the weapons in DaS games are just the same moveset copy and pasted, except 90% of those weapons are made useless by the end of the game as there's always, ALWAYS 2 - 3 weapons in each class that are outright superior to everything else.
Nice meme, most weapons have unique moves and you can finish the game with a goddamn dagger.
>Then how about magic? Man I sure do love 50 versions of Souls Arrow, Soul Mass and Lightning Spear, fucking brilliant!
Again with the retarded hyperbole. Dark Souls has more utility spells than BB. Iron Flesh, Power Within, Chameleon, Flash Sweat, Aural Decoy, Fall Control, Tranquil Walk of Peace, Force. Just to name a few.
>>335725221
>http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Pyromancies
>http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Sorceries
>http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Miracles
>50 versions of soul arrow
>being this fucking retarded
>mfw BB babies think arcane is ANYWHERE near as worth putting points into as the game variety that putting intelligence and attunement offers
>>335724431
>it's not the most popular one
Literally the highest rated game in the series.
>>335725987
>Though I will admit that the Deacons fight has really good atmosphere and music.
Bosses in DS3 have music?
>>335726408
A fully specced arcane build in Bloodborne is far more competitive than a ds3 int build in PvP combat.
>>335726449
Tbph some boss themes are pretty god tier
Soul of Cinder, Yhorm and Twin princes are pretty good.
BB still has the best music in the series though
DeS and DaS had garbage music except gwyn's theme.
>>335726118imoDark souls had better level design/layout n shit but has always had mediocre bossesWith a few exceptions
Bloodbornes bosses were much betterbut not amazing, while having a good theme, gothic architecture werewolves n shit, Wasn't quite as good as dark souls general level layoutignoring DaS2
>>335726432
>metacritic
lmao
I guess The Last of Us is better than Bloodborne
Friendly reminder if you didn't play DeS on release you're not allowed to have an opinion on the series.
