Why do people hate RE5 so much compared to RE4? Boulder punching aside, is it because it doesn't have enough horror elements like RE4?
>>335706795
RE was a mostly singleplayer series, having a moron AI buddy would easily ruin the game for people playing it alone.
RE4 was very simplistic in terms of mechanics, yet was ever inventive and fresh in terms of level design. RE5 was even simpler in terms of inventory management and upgrades, and I barely remember any aspect of level design aside from coop doors, despite playing through it 2 or 3 times.
>>335706795
I enjoyed it for what it was.
>>335706795
RE4 had almost no horror elements though
>>335707376
I never thought of it like that. I always had a coop buddy when I played so I never experienced how terrible Sheva was on her own
>>335708015
>RE4 had almost no horror elements though
Suuuuuure.
I liked them both honestly. Re5 was a very fun Pizza+Beer coop game with a fucking sweet Mercs mode added on. Re4 was damn-near perfect if it weren't for the Island section being kinda boring. They're both great.
it mainly comes down to 3 elements-
1. forced coop
2. enemies with machine guns and a cover system taking up most of the whole last 1/3
3. cartoon super villain neo wesker
5 was still a very fun game, but it played it too safe in comparison to 4.
>>335709531
>tfw the last part of the game on professional with those two mini gun fags
Truly suffering
>>335708228
wow 5 areas with horror elements in the entire game how amazing
>>335708125
the people most upset about it are autists with no friends
>>335706795
If anything RE5 was the realization of all the concepts that were cut or scrapped since RE1 like full Coop
>>335711184
Do you realize the irony in calling somebody "autistic" for your inability to empathize with them? It's like calling somebody retarded because you don't understand a word they're saying.
Jill letting the world burn
Who is best girl?
>implying it isn't RE3 Jill
Early beta of RE5 shows that the helicopter crash scene is fully playable, not just series of QTEs
>>335706795
I dropped it after the second boss
>>335706795
I used to play RE3 when I was a kid and it would scare the shit out of me.
>>335712663
Jill is the best girl,but there are some great runner ups Anon
I love RE5.
My only problems were too many QTEs and it suffers the same thing that RE4 did with the middle part of the game being boring as all hell.
RE 5 beta screenshots (before SJWs ruined it)
>>335713079
a.k.a. First part horror like suspense,second part ''muh zombies with guns''
>>335713053
Helena is my runner up. She is the only good thing to come out of RE6
more RE5 beta
>>335713053
Sauce?
>>335706795
more RE5 beta
>>335713402
Only because I love you Anon
>http://rule34hentai.net/image/95070
RE5 is a perfect game mechanically when it's played with a bro. It's a shame how bad it gets when the CPU controls the Co-op char.
I put thousands of hours into Coop mercs though. I still file up my PS3 and find people to play with.
>>335713230
Outside of N'Gai Croal's bitchfit, RE5's beta is incredibly different than the final game because Clover was developing it, not an internal Capcom studio.
These fucking faggots.
>>335706795
I dunno why people shit on RE5 having coop. Capcom has been trying the series to have coop since RE1
who the fuck was Gelzer and Dewey?
For the reasons listed in this thread, and also because there is no fucking build up, which ruins the atmosphere.
>>335713379
Helena is a great choice Anon
>>335714307
Anon pls
>>335714659
We'll never know, they were just rough ideas.
Onimusha was supposed to be the real Resident Evil 3, not the nemesis or code veronica.
It was conceptually made after RE2 since Capcom thought they wrote themselves in a corner after RE2, so zombies in feudal ages was made
you know what? it seems to me that RE 1.5 beta is a lot more fun than RE2.
RE2 only improved graphics over RE1, but RE 1.5 has 3x more enemies on screen, higher stakes, a more sensible level design, and a more grounded police station
>>335715142
>people always give Inafune credit for the first game, when it was actually Yoshiki Okamoto/Flagship's brainchild
For fucks sake, do you know what Inafune did for the game? Give it an outrageous budget that could have potentially fucked over Capcom, because he wanted actual actors.
RE1.5 goodness
>>335715142
Wrong Capcom wanted to create a RE series in the past. Devil May Cry was the game that was originally going to be the RE 3
>>335706795
I didnt like RE4 either
>>335715886
>you will never play as Elza Walker in that sexy outfit
>>335715735
>RE2 only improved graphics over RE1
kill yourself
>>335706795
Well, re5 is just a generic shoot em up game capcom made trynna get dat ADD Gears of War audience.
RE4 was a lot more survival orientated. higher difficulties actually had you conserve ammo, the briefcase made you choose what to keep with you carefully., and the location had a lot more of an eerie feel to it, you were mostly alone, exception of a few people you would find here and there, and Ashley who was more a liability. RE5 you had like air support and shit a lot of the time, cause again it was a generic action game.
I just wish they continued making normal Resident Evil Games, and turned Re5 onward into a spin off series, zombie shoot em up or whatever.
>>335716487
It is shit compared to RE 1.5.
RE1.5 has various armors, more enemies, tighter hallways, less ammo
RE1.5 also has a sort of tower defense style, where you manage to try to hole yourself up in the police station fixing the barricades and shutters to prevent more zombies coming in while you try to find an escape route.
RE 2 is just a prettier RE1
>>335716415
>I didnt like RE4 either
There is something wrong with you then.
>>335717127
But those would be so hard to implement. Besides, I mean you're comparing concepts to a fully realized complete game.
>>335714804
I think I know where these are all from. They're pretty fuckin great senpai
>>335717127
Why does RE1.5 have the spookiest atmosphere in the series?
The only time I've felt true horror from Resi was when watching the clips of RE1.5.
>>335706795
Anyone want to play Mercenaries online? I have all the DLC too.
let's fuck some zombies up senpai
http://steamcommunity.com/id/OneEyedCharlie/
>>335717532
Original RE1 has the red zombies and burning zombies in the code already.
RE1.5 files show armor and the timer how much the shutters last.
RE1 beta also has a functioning coop. its not hard to implement those concepts.
>>335718298
Good to see you know your shit,great minds think alike Anon
Well re4 had better atmosphere, inventory and pretty sweet gunporn, also leon is a way better mc than chris
Everything about RE4 was so memorable that 5 just felt like a step down in terms of story, characters, weapons, environments, andBALEEESTICS.
i played RE5 before RE4 and because of that i thought RE5 was actually a really good game.
i consider REmake one of the best games ever made, so i wasn't playing it with the mindset that it should be similar, by the way
but the gameplay itself was just so fun. ammo conservation leads to shooting the right parts of different enemies, then choosing the right moments to do melee attacks was just great
and the graphics/sound effects were top-notch for the time. sound particularly is still pretty good, heads exploding sound great as usual and i love the sound of chris's gear jangling around when moving.
however, i played RE4 following that and only then did i realize why RE5 was met with such tepid reactions. RE5 still has a place in my heart simply for being "fun", though.
RE6 on the other hand was the only game whose demo literally made me cancel my pre-order, holy MOLY was it ever bad. i figure i'll pick up the PS4 version one day when it's on sale. no way i'm buying that for a high price.
>>335714659
Did Gelzer morph into what became Krauser?
>>335706795
It's just not as well made. RE4 is a meticulously crafted and laid out game, with phenomenal pacing. RE5 ditched some of that for muh co-op.
>>335718565
Because RE1.5 was meticulously done sequel, while RE 2 was a mad dash of 7 months of development after Mikami scrapped RE1.5 because he didnt like RE1.5 graphics didnt outdo RE1
>>335719820
RE1.5 getting cancelled wasn't Mikami's idea, since he didn't really want to fiddle around with it. It got to a point in development where he clashed with Kamiya so much he pretty much said "Do whatever you want, I don't care." He was working on Dino Crisis.
A good hunk of the changes were due to the game not being open ended. Mikami wanted it to be like RE1, Kamiya wrote the game to be like RE1. Cue Flagship being formed and pulling in Noburo Sugimura to re-write the game.
CV beta
>>335706795
It was fun, except Sheva was pretty dumbBlonde Jill a cute
RE0 beta
i dont get why everyone shits on 5, i really liked it ;_;
yeah it pretty much cycled through the same areas just like 4 did, but the graphics were actually pretty fucking good on the 360 for its time, and if you kept the ai in follow mode it wasnt an issue.
plus i kind of liked the wesker fight on the boat where he would grab the rockets in mid air and shit.
>>335706795
because the entire game is literally a giant escort mission. your ally is fucking retarded and if she dies its gg
fucking ruined that game
>>335706795
I liked RE5 a lot, just as good as RE4 IMO. With the added bonus of pissing off a shitload of jelly-brained SJWs.
>>335712649
What is this?
RE5 was great with keeping the action going with their item menu. I didn't like RE4's pacing all that much since I went from 5 to 4 despite having a better story.
Seriously I just want a tits and gun third person shooter made by crapcom.
>>335708228
>>335711072
RE was never scary in the first place.
The horror came from the lack of resources and only the original has that
>>335721770
opening for beta RE3.
the game tried to implement scraps from RE1.5 and 2 where you try to manage the worsening situation, game has in-game 3 days to manage the zombie problem.
scrapped in favor of Nemesis chasing you around
>>335721528
>yeah it pretty much cycled through the same areas just like 4 did
Not really unless you went back chapters to farm gems. It was pretty straight forward, you always went in one direction and barely ever back.
>>335706795
RE4 had better inventory management.
In RE4 the levels were progressive and you had to think about every piece of treasure and every shot of ammo you had. The more you palyed RE4 the better it got. You knew which treasures to keep around and combine later so you can sell them at a high price or sell them for a little. The guns upgraded and got amazing bonuses if you amxed em out.
RE5 ruined all of that with it's simplified inventory and ability to replay missions over and over again to max out all your items with no regard to economy management or item management. Basically, you only needed one playthrough to get everything out of the game.
RE4 is the only game I have ever beaten and thought "HOLY SHIT I WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN" and instantly started a new game+ after the credits rolled..
Also leon was a much better character. The dialogue in RE4 is fucking legendary.
>>335722276
Thats pretty much the way it's going. All dat ass in RE6, Deborah Harper, all that lewd Moira.
>>335722910
even more, RE4 rewarded skill for ammo conservation so you're more likely to get better upgrades if you didn't shoot shit up. Everything about RE4 seemed to be perfectly designed. You just didn't heal yourself if you got hurt. You waited to find all 3 herbs so you could boost your max health. You didn't just upgrade your gun because if you waited until you're out of ammo and upgraded your ammo gets refilled for that upgrade. You didn't just trade in your treasure because you could combine it later with other treasures to sell it for a better price. You didn't use that rocket launcher right away either. You could sell it to upgrade a gun or you could use it to kill a boss and conserve other ammo. You used the pistol to shoot enemies in the legs to stun them so you could run up and suplex the fuckers or knife them when they were on the ground to save ammo. You waited until you get the large case to upgrade so you had extra money and didn't waste on the other case sizes.
There were just so many things you could min-max in RE4 that felt like they were designed to be that way. It was a brilliant fucking game
Where did everyone go?.
>>335723407
RE5 came out in the era of western domination. Online play is a must
RE5 is average by 2009 standards, so people hated it at the time cause it was coming off RE4, which was a 10/10 by 2005 standards. Depressing thing is you play RE5 now and it feels like a 10/10.
Has here been any news about the PS4 / X1 re-release of RE5?
>>335706795
It was the exact same as 4 just not nearly as interesting or fun to get through.
>>335723614
even with coop and all that shit with more action I feel like RE5 would have been better if they didn't let you select missions.
But I get why they did it for online play. It's just a lazy choice.
>>335723407
RE4 is the only game in the world that I can honestly consider a "perfect video game."
>>335724172
It had Ashley with her perfect tits.
>>335724172
>RE4 is the only game in the world that I can honestly consider a "perfect video game."
Would have to agree, shit was too damn good. Starts off terrifying, you slowly get your shit together, kill El Gigante, feel like a badass. Then you get Mendez with his centipede act, freaks you the fuck out, go into the castle and it just becomes a horrific looney tunes sketch with Salazar and Saddler throwing all this insane shit at you. So much fun!
>>335724172
me too anon, me too.
I didn't play RE4 when it first came out because I was one of those "RE:CORE" people. I got it when it came out as a players choice $20 game a year or so later and instantly fuckin loved it. Like, it's Super Metroid and Mario 3 levels of perfect.
>>335706795
>forced co-op
>no horror elements
>zombies shooting AKs
I still liked it
I have a confession /v/.
I only ever played on Easy, so I have never had to deal with the Maze part of the castle.
I bought Re1&3 never played classic RE and my Re1 is the one without autoaim. I want to wait til Halloween to start playing them.
I played RE5 with a friend co-op for the first time and desu it was one of the funnest co-op experiences i've ever had. I get that Res is supposed to be a singleplayer game and making this game a co-op experience sort of nullifies the RE experience, but this was a great game to play with a friend on the couch and for that I really liked this game
>>335706795
>it doesn't have enough horror elements like RE4?
I mean, basically. It's RE4 with a buddy, more lights, and less scary things.
>>335707376
>moron AI buddy
Literally just tell her when to stay back and when to go on ahead, and there's no problem. Complaints about the AI are Persona 3 levels of excessive.
>>335708015
>no horror elements
The entirety of chapter 2, dude.
>>335725294
>playing re4 on easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHChmYcpdd4
There needs to be more Hunnigan, specifically more of her ass.
>>335707376
>RE was a mostly singleplayer series
almost every Resi game was always intended to be a multiplayer co-op game, but none of the consoles could handle it yet
>>335717127
Neat. I want to play. If there's a way to slap this on my PSP, I'll do it today.
>>335726041
>Literally just tell her when to stay back and when to go on ahead, and there's no problem. Complaints about the AI are Persona 3 levels of excessive.
the AI tends to get more shit than it deserves, but she can be a serious problem on Vet in the last 1/3 of the game and the entirety of Pro you have to account for every single step you take with her its over. iv also had her AI flat out break at a few points.
>>335725294
>so I have never had to deal with the Maze part of the castle.
>He doesn't know
>>335726293
A very shoddy 70% build is available, but you need ot use debug mod to skip around between rooms. A team is working on putting together a proper game from it though.
>>335708015
>"I didn't get to the oven man"
>>335726263
So does your uncle work at Capcom or what?
>>335706795
RE4's had a more consistent tone and little nods to older REs. Also it had better characters,enemies,bosses,weapons, music and setting. The only thing that RE5 really had that was better was it's graphics and camera. Some people say gameplay, but I disagree because being able to melee "everything" makes the game way too easy. It's still a good action game tho.
>>335726563
this has been said in interviews before on more than one occasion
>>335726563
>>335726625
Not nearly as amazing as the RE port to the GBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRCd2VVmLXw
>>335706795
Forcing Coop was fucking retarded, ruined the franchise forever, and fuck you.
>>335713230
>>335713389
>>335713740
These are cool!
>>335726625
so link these interviews you double nigger
>>335727031
i'm doing my best to find them again but i can't remember where i read them
i'll post them as soon as i find them though
Whatever became of the PSP RE Game? It was hyped up at an E3, and never mentioned ever again.
>>335713740
this happened to a lot of fucking games back then. games like gears of war, re5, CoD2 were all suppose to have realtime lighting but the 360 came out and it wasn't powerful enough for it so they had to cut it and use lightmaps instead.
huge bummer. games eventually got realtime lighting the last year or so of it's lifespan. I was super fucking hyped for realtime lighting when I first saw the EPIC 6800gt demo using what ended up being gears of war assets. They really amped up the lighting and when it came out it just used shitty old lightmap tech.
>>335727291
It never existed outside of that E3 announcement. and no, it wasn't Revelations 1.
>>335727291
>>335727426
Rumors were it was going to be an RE Outbreak style co op experience.
>>335706795
- Forced co-op turns single player into shit
- Completely abandoned not only horror, but also survival aspect of the series
- Plot was boring and bad even by the already very low Resident Evil standards
Those three basically.
If they want to fix it, there should be NO CO-OP in main story campaign. Single character only. Have a separate co-op mode for the people who like it, but the default story mode must not have shitty AI sidekicks that you have to tolerate.
>>335727887
'Cept RE Coop is the best thing to happen to the series since RE4's camera system.
>>335706795
I don't understand the hate for it personally. Played it through a couple times solo and also played it through veteran with a friend. All around a fun experience.
Resident Evil 6 though, that game is an unsalvagable turd that should have never been put out.
>>335727978
No, I'm afraid you're a little bit mistaken there, its actually the worst thing and not the best.
>People still whining about Resident Evil not being survival horror even though it hasn't been that for over 10+ years
Just fuck off already.
>>335728545
It's been shit for over 10 years then
>>335728545
No, you. Resident Evil started as a survival horror series and that means every installment of it that is anything other than survival horror is automatically shit regardless of any other concerns.
>>335729180
>EGM
oh lordie
Resi 5 mercenaries is the best minigame
Only 2006/7 Runescape Castle Wars came close
>>335729545
I never could get into those. They were all incredibly stressfull with the timing and kills and all that shit.
>>335729180
thanks famalam. couldn't find it but that's one of the ones i was thinking of
>>335727031
>claire used to look like this
and now she looks like this
>>335727887
>- Completely abandoned not only horror, but also survival aspect of the series
5 still had a lot of that survival aspect. arguably even more so since you couldnt hold as much stuff as 4.
>>335730797
Claire and Sherry seem to be the only characters in the series to actually age.
Rank the RE games that you've played in order of enjoyment
RE3 > RE1 > RE4 > RE5 > Revelations 2 > Revelations > literal shit > RE6
Eagerly waiting for that RE2 remake
>>335732307
4>REmake>2>Rev1>CVX>3>5>6
Need friends for Outbreak
ORC is one of the worst games I've ever played, survivor was also shit
Will get to zero and Rev2
I love every game I ranked except 6, 6 was fine but should've been a spin off
4 is my favourite game of all time
>>335732307
4>2>5(coop)>REmake>3>Rev2>RE1>RE5(sp)>RE6>Rev1>RE0
>>335732307
i like you
>>335732609
Forgot og RE, behind6
>>335732681
Revelations below 6? Why anon? Not trying to be a fag, genuinely curious. I didn't mind Revelations that much but I played on PC and not 3DS
>>335732916
story was convoluted with shit characters. atleast 6 had some good chemistry between sherry/jake and chris/piers along with an interesting timeline setup. Rev's enemies were boring and mostly slow (for a move and shoot setup). 6 atleast has its combat mechanics and evolving enemies that would force you to use it. the pacing felt off thanks to Rev's back and forth's between jills section and chris/those other two annoying cunts'.
Rev tried to bring back the survival horror and didnt do it very well (minus a few points here and there). Atleast 6 while a mess atleast said fuck it and went for it for its action and that made it more entertaining even if it wasnt technically wasnt made as well.
>>335706795
It's only good as a co-op game, and I don't fucking want co-op in my Resident Evil.
>>335732159
Alcoholism runs in the family. It's harder on women than men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjveIR617TY
>>335706795
I don't think any RE will be able to top that freezer segment in RE4 for me. That was the fear-inducing experience of my life. non-vidya considered.
>seeing and hearing those regenerators for the first time in the dead of night
>throwing all your ammo at them, blowing their legs of with grenades only to witness them drag their severed bodies across the floor as they restructure themselves
>not knowing where to turn or where to hide or how to kill
>the ragged, tortured breathing creeping closer and closer as you lose all hope
>>335732307
5 (co op with a bro) > 4 > 1 > 6
i wanna go through them all, and dino crisis + the resi clones. old survival horror is comfy as fuckunfortunately i have no time for videogames because im always shitposting about them here