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>A new Regulation version will be updated to adjust the game balance on Dark Souls III on Thursday, April 28th.

Main Adjustements:
The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
The efficiency of the following categories has been adjusted: Short Sword, Twinsword and Magic.
Other game balance improvement and bug fixes.
After the update is completed, the newest version will appear on the top left of the title screen as below: App Ver 1.04 Regulation Ver 1.06

Where were you when DS3 was saved? Bluebros and magic users rejoist
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THANK FUCKING GOD. As a Blade of the Darkmoon I am very disappointed with the current summons, I hope that's true.
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>gotthard twinswords will be nerfed into oblivion
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>the update that will (probably) buff magic is coming out on my birthday

It's gonna be a good day.
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>>335706164

Guarantee it's not gonna fix it

The issue isn't the level range, it's the fact that not enough people are WoB. Whenever you invade, host gets a sentinel. Whenever you're a sentinel, you never, ever get summoned. The best fix for this would be to give a blue eye orb to darkmoons and make it a sin invasion covenant rather than the exact same thing as sentinels.
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Please let one of the magic fixes be lower fp cost on the more expensive spells.

No i don't want to use 5 times the fp to do 10% more dmg.
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>>335706684
>buff
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>>335706419
Yeah, I got hard when I saw that
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>>335707117

There's no way in hell From would nerf it.

It's not even gamrebreaking or anything like that. Short swords are more gamebreaking.
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>>335706909
the best fix would be to merge covenants so you get summoned to help people but also get summons without having to alternate. Also the blue orb thing too
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>>335707247

what's up with short swords?
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>Invade as a purple
>They are running like a bitch and summoning, repeated summon fail messages pop up
>Getting ready to push the host's shit in
>Katana wielding bluefag invades
>Go to parry them
>They either just mash R1 or they start fishing for backstabs like the faggots they are

Every fucking time.
What is it with higher level pvp and katanas?
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>>335707559
>Not using skilltanas
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>>335707559
>higher level pvp and katanas?
On how they are non existant? Or do you think level 30 is high?
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>>335707696
I have a level 80 character and I see washing poles and katanas all the time.
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So short swords are going to be nerfed hard...

Are they at lease going to fix poise then?

People aren't using swords because they're over-powered, they're using them because everything else sucks.
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>>335707972
They're using them because there is no counter. You can't parry them like you can most other weapons
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Just let us get any covenant item through invasions. You can do it for sunbro tokens for fucks sake.

Not wanting to farm silver knights is putting me off.
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FIX WATCHDOGS
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Why the fuck is the covenant item of the Blades of the Darkmoon an ear? Pale Tongues make sense because Rosaria has no tongue.
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>>335705184
HANG ON ANON, HANG ON. DOES THIS MEAN MY SORCERY WILL FINALLY ACTUALLY DEAL DAMAGE?
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>>335707650
I can't get my upper body to not look like disproportioned ass
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>>335708182
What do silver knights even drop besides titanite shards and their armor?
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>>335708301
Darkmoon covenant items.
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>>335708195
Read the description. They cut off the ear as their trademark so that when other people come across the corpse, they'll know what happened and be afraid of sinning themselves.
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>>335707558

>low stamina cost per swing, allowing you to outdamage ultra weapons and still have stamina leftover to roll

They just have too many strengths and pretty much no weaknesses aside from not having the range that some other weapons have.

>>335708301

They drop ears needed to rank up in the Darkmoon/Blue Sentinel covenant.
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>>335705184
What item is that?
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>>335708131

Even in PvE they're better.

The whole "infinite poise halfway through an attack" fucks over heavy weapon users big time.
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>>335707558
It's a translation error. They're buffing daggers. Look up the jap notes and you'll see it's the dagger class.
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>>335708508
>use large club r2
>flattens most enemies
>can charge it all the way and hit them again while they're getting up
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>>335708402
They still have pretty insane range desu. I often can't roll out without getting hit at the end of my roll or mid roll potentially by them.
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>>335708392
Boy that'd make sense if Sinning was in this game

>Velka statue where you can pray for Absolution
>No Sinning in this game
>Blades of the Darkmoon are bastardized into Blue Sentinels since both Covenants give you the exact same rewards and have the same leader

Bravo From.
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>purplefag
>always throw down signs in the swamp
>once summoned I just aggro the big fucking demons and run towards the host
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>>335708612
I hope they're good in pvp some day. I'd use daggers if they actually did damage.

>>335708653
Short swords are disgustingly good in this game and great swords are practically garbage, it's stupid.
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>>335708653

I'm thinking from a PvE perspective, but, yes, even in PvP it's like their range is exaggerated. I don't think that's FROM's fault, though. It's like that for many other weapons, too. Not just straight swords.
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>>335706684
>Miyazaki
>buffing magic
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>>335708870
>Purple
>Genuinely help the host and even give him an ember
>Blackstone out at the boss door.
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What about Miracles?
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>>335705184
>Nothing about poise actually being fixed
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Why don't they just increase the drop rate of silver knight?
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>>335705184
>Where were you when DS3 was saved?

>rapiers and greatshields unchanged
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>>335709050
>lightning bros get fucked yet again
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>>335708508
>Gargoyle flame spear
>Put up a shield and poke when they go to do their trademark 3 hits
>Use the weapon art charge and follow up with the slam, if needed

>>335708619
I love the large club this time around.
I'm thinking of going dark, lightning or raw infusion
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>>335708937
Straight swords are most notable though because they attack fast as fuck and use basically no stamina. And of course it's From's fault, it's their game.

I honestly believe the range on short swords is the most exaggerated too.
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>>335708879
I've been playing around with a Str Greatsword/Greataxe build lately and I'm shitting on Straight Sword fags. Katans push my shit in a lot though since they seem to enter hyperpoise faster making it really hard to time trades.

the Black Knight Greataxe and Dragonslayer Greataxe are DISGUSTINGLY good and completely overshadow Greatswords though. L2 Buffed BKGA R2's 2 shot pretty much everyone and have an enormous amount of range.
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Anyone know the specifics of the covenant changes
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>>335705184
>Magic fix
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>335708824
You CAN sin, but I don't think it means anything outside having angered an NPC. So you can pay to make them friendly again.
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>>335709017
A lot of people say they do this, but why? Might as well just sunbro it then.
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>>335709329
There is nothing in the game that actually gives you Sin. Sin is a hidden stat and there IS a Sin system in DaS3, but there are no actions which grant Sin. NPC aggro is handled separately (I really think it shouldn't though. Angering certain NPC's should count as Sin imo).
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>>335709050
Wrath of the gods is back.
You don't need to be in the warrior of sunlight covenant to obtain sunlight blade or lightning spear.

There's also an oolacile spell that lets you reflect magic.

>>335708870
>Get summoned as a purple at road of sacrifices
>Kill some mobs so they know I'm friendly
>Lead them to crystal sage
>Wait for them to go up that flight of stairs to kill some enemies
>Kick them off and use a plunging attack
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>>335706419
>adjusted actually means buff in this case
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>>335709159
Yeah the big weapons are decent, I'm just talking about greatswords being really bad. The damage just sucks in PVP and especially PVE. It doesn't make sense to have to switch to a smaller weapon for a variety of reasons.
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>>335707559
>mfw purples go after the host rather than just killing the phantoms to get their spine
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>>335709491

you absolute madman
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>>335708937
It might just be a latency/net code thing that's just more noticeable and has more of an effect with the fast swords. I'm leaning towards that being the case. Its just kind of disheartening that my trusty claymore that did work in DaS1 feels like I'm gimping myself. It doesn't help you only get 8 slabs either, I wouldn't mind so much if I could just upgrade something else to try.
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>>335709475
Invading should give sin like in the first dark souls.
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>>335709475
You sure? After having killed all the NPCs at firelink, including those that respawn, I had the option to pay around 90,000 souls to remove my sin at the Velka statue. Didn't do it though
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>>335709581
I'm using bkgs and it's pretty good both pvp and pve (I still had to switch to dark sword for nameless king).
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>>335709581
Astora Greatsword is good. I find that the Greatswords with horizontal movesets shit all over the vertical ones, simply because they're vastly better against ganksquads.
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>>335709159
How do I get the Black Knight Greataxe? Do I actually have to farm that dickhead in the Smoldering Lake for it? I've killed him probably 15 times and haven't gotten shit.

I want it so bad, the Profaned Greatsword kicks ass but I want a Greataxe.
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>>335705184
magic wasnt even broken, what are they talking about?

please dont tell me they are making int scaling better so casual faggots can have a hybrid with strong melee, good armor, AND powerful magic without making any sacrifices
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>>335709771
That's an Ultra
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>>335708870
>>335709491
Cool dudes

>>335709017
Cancer
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>>335709806
Farm the one after Champion Gundyr, he's way closer to a bonfire. BKGA is a fucking monster. The Enrage L2 makes your R2's do massive leaping combos that nobody sees coming.
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>>335709771
That's another thing that's annoying in this game, that 2H damage is barely higher than 1H.

But that's an UGS, like I said those are fine.
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>>335709434

Because you can invade as purple
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>>335709649
The claymore still kicks ass. Its just that straight swords are too good. I win most of my duels with the claymore 1v1 but I get into trouble when there's two faggots using the same straight sword just spamming attacks and overlapping the pressure.
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>>335709831
That's why people want the sl meta to be 200 or some shit. When people say they want a "complete" build what they seem to mean is everything at fucking softcap with no compromise.

I'm just going to make low level characters to invade with. High level pvp is going to be fucking trash.
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>Only 2 of the staffs are worth a damn
Why the fuck would they do this. You either use heretic staff if you have less than 50 int. Or you use court staff if you have more. The other ones might as well not exist.
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>>335705184
>The range of the matching level of the Blade of the Darkmoon and the Blue Sentinels have been adjusted.
And the watchdogs, too?
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>>335709587
If I invade a hopeless 3v1, and they're coming for me, I run up and try to get forbidden flame off. Because it does so much fucking damage.

I usually target sunlight warriors.
Other times I try and help other invaders kill the host.

>tfw you get summoned as a warrior of sunlight, die, and invade the same person as a warrior of sunlight
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>>335710080
in my experience, high level pvp was always trash, even in demons souls.

i remember getting a guy to like 150ish with a dragon bone smasher, encountered another DBS user. neither of us could kill each other with a full stamina bar's worth of swings. he was grass munching, so i munched as well to keep things fair. eventually i just let him kill me after 10 minutes of this nonsense.

low level pvp the best.
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>>335709434
Because if the host dies I win. if a red invades I win. If one of the hosts phantoms die. I. WIN.

Purple is the only way to play this mess of a pvp system.
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>>335710016
I make do. It just feels far from optimal.

I'm just going to make some lower level characters, pvp at my level isn't really enjoyable. Just use this character for achievement hunting.
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>>335705184
So does this means that instead of having a blue getting summoned to help the host 7 out of 10 times, it is going to happen 10 out of 10 now?
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>>335705184
>No mention of turning poise back on

Its fucking ridiculous that its literally a switch and they just turned it off.
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>>335709992
Doesn't everybody just change covenant on the fly? Or do people run around with Blue Sentinel all the time hoping for multiplayer action just a single time?
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>>335710160
>invade as purple
>a red invader goes after me rather then the host and his phantom
>after he helps them kill me he gets back stabbed and kicked off a cliff
Dumbass.
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>still no framedrop/stutter/lighting fix 2 months after the game is released
Thank fucking god I refunded this and pirated it.
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>>335707117
>short sword
>not straight sword
>dark sword remains tip top

Kek
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>>335710160
How to win 3v1s
>Silvercat ring
>Obscuring ring
>Go somewhere really high with walkable ground below you
>throw prism stones directly beneath you
>Try a Plunging Attack!
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>>335710373
except there was?

i have a gtx650 and i get 60fps on low settings. you aren't a casual graphicsfag, are you?
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>>335710342
I don't get summoned for any of them so it doesn't even matter. I never get invaded either. I'm only sl 82.
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>"No way, gotta check the website to see if this is true"
>DS3 website requires your age
>Enter
>Nothing happens
>F5
>"You may not access the page at this time"
It's the Dark Souls website alright
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>>335710382
Short Sword does nearly as much damage and you can swing it 11 times in a row.
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>>335709831

It's not "broken", it's just mediocre compared to everything else.

A magic user has to invest up to 60 in INT/FAI in order to get the best out of spell scaling. Meanwhile, a melee character only needs 40 points in either STR or DEX, leaving a lot more room for thing VIG, VIT, and END. Even at 60, a magic user's damage is still shit compared to a melee guy.
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>>335710096
I don't even understand staves despite rolling a mage currently. I don't understand how to do more damage as a pyro either.

So Heretic Staff is the best? Ironically, that's what I've been using.

>>335710207
>tfw I've put probably 800 hours into Souls PVP and I've literally never experienced high level pvp. Highest character I've made was SL79 I think and that was just to make a complete MLGS build spamming the DLC magic from DaS.

Next up was my BBS build in DeS. Everyone else is like SL30 tops.

Dark Souls 3 requires a higher level though it seems, most people are leveling quite high and there are limits to invading now instead of it being infinite upwards which sucks.
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The best fix would just have Darkmoon assist all Blue Sentinels/Way of Blue and other Darkmoon.

Then have Blue Sentinels assist all Blue Sentinels and Way of Blue.

There's no reason to not switch to Darkmoon from Blue Sentinel once you reach Anor Londo since they're the same covenant with the same rewards.
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>>335709434
It makes coop go from auto attack r1 stagger spam to a more risk assessment affair of dancing in and out of each other's combos when stamina drops.
It makes hp be a constant straining issue for both members instead of someone throwing on an evil eye ring and letting the other do work when he gets low.
It changes ladders from a terrain movement device to the most absolutely horrifying hazard in the game.
It makes invasions change from a guaranteed 2v1 gankfest to a possible free for all where no one can count on anyone else not to backstab them and dark spirits can't tell if you've also invaded or were summoned so are less reliant on mobs to save them.
Totally changes the game and inspires a true spirit of bromanship instead of this false coop with whites and golds where you just overpower everything and cheese bosses for loot.
Way more fun desu senpai
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>>335710439
The lighting bug wasn't present on low settings in the first place dumb ass.

That said. After 1.04 i haven't any crashes, so seems to be fixed.
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>>335709017
>Blackstone out at the boss door.

Enjoy your ban. They announced black stone is for extreme circumstances only. Using it often will get you banned.
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>>335705184
>theyre only lowering straight swords and not increasing 2h great weapons
RIP
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>>335710080
If you're making a low level character, I suggest capping your int and faith at 15 for black flame.

You don't even have to kill Pontiff unless you want to buy white branches and get the full Xanthous set. So you can stay at a relatively low level with only +2 or +3 weapons.

You can get that buffable executioner greatsword in cathedral of the deep, too.
Put some points in atunement for chaos pyromancy and then get the old witch's ring.

Chaos fireball has saved me from 3v1 gankfests because you can nail the host with it, stagger them and let the lava instantly kill them.

Do it as a grapist for a bonus.
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>>335710645
Going to need to see some proof on that
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Do you still need a red eye orb to invade as a purple? never done any invading before, but i want that warmth pyromancy to complete the set
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>>335710549
I really wish they had kept Bloodborne's 25 soft cap and 50 cap then gave that to INT and Faith.

Magic has literally the exact same problem as Arcane, except instead of 50 starting to reap rewards and 99 being a literal cosmic god you have 60 being the start of good damage for INT.
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>>335710016
Yeah i feel like that too, when two faggots with straight swords start the r1 spam it's fucking impossible.
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>>335710649
It says short sword, not straight sword.

I'm not sure if that's a mistake in the translation or it's literally just the short sword
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>>335710438
Where do I get that obscuring ring?
I'd love to make use of it on my greatbow grapist
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>>335709940
Will do, thanks anon. I can't wait to use it, honestly. I haven't seen anyone use it yet in PvP but from what I've seen on videos and heard on here it is indeed a monster.
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>>335705184
>poise still does nothing.
Nice patch From
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>>335710814
Literally Short Sword. Try it out, it's actually really really obnoxiously good.
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>>335710682
>Chaos fireball has saved me from 3v1 gankfests
This tied with a UGS is like instant kill. 3v1 groups always just zerg towards you thinking they can tank anything.

They can't.
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>>335710645
what the fuck are you on about
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>>335710571
Just look for the spell buff stat. Higher is better. Remember to upgrade it like with other weapons.
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>>335710689
That's what the way of the white thing is for
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>>335710689
>Adds penalty points to your character which will ban that character from multiplayer sessions until you use a Way of White Circlet
>Using the item too much will result in a message prompt of "As multiplayer sessions have repeatedly ended in an improper manner. the connection between worlds has been servered. Connection can only be restored with a Way of White Circlet."
>Takes an random amount of disconnects using the crystal before recieving the message, the average seems to be around 30. (Tested with a total of 8 different characters stopping at 30 and restarting the game.)
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>>335708879
I love using the daggers, mainly for some extra mobility. Then I just use a spear to chuck fuckers from afar
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>>335708183

Don't overgear/level

+4 weapon at level 30-40 you get a lot of invasions
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>>335711005
see
>>335711090
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>>335711090
That's not a source.
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>>335709587
Purple requirements are stupid.

If the host is by himself or has one summon: Kill host or one phantom.

If host has two summons or one and a purple/red: Kill host or two phantoms.

If the host has three summons or two and an invader: Kill host or three phantoms.

And if you're the unlucky shit that fills the 6th slot because the host used dried finger? Enjoy either having to kill the host or 4 phantoms.
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>>335709581
>mgs

mah nigga
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>>335711090
Green text is not proof. Post a link.
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>>335710645
>announced
Source then.
Last I heard that was just some bullshit rumor that got proven false.
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>>335710571
I'm currently level 34.
I beat Pontiff, have enough int and faith for black flame, chaos pillar and chameleon.

I also have enough dex and str for the gargoyle flame lance, found the dragon torso stone, and
got the lacerating weapon infusion.

I capped my weapons at +6 and it seems perfect to invade in Cathedral, Catacombs, Farron Keep and Ithryll still. I won't be getting any watchdog summons but I'm not too worried about that.
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>>335709581
Why do your mgs look like that? mine looks like hot garbage.
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>>335711090
Source: your ass?

It would be goddamn retarded to have a counter that doesn't ever reset. Then again it's fromsoft so I wouldn't put it past them.
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>>335710571
wait its not infinite upwards? What the fuck, so i cant make a SL1 deprived pvper?
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>>335711202
see
>>335711209
>>335711263
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>>335711090
>gonna need proof
>greentexts a lot of made up shit to make it look "authentic"
>but only to retards who have never followed up on source
I'm not even going to google that to see which wiki you pulled that fake shit from.
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>>335711405
Nope. Gotta level up for them invasions.
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>>335710841

first covenant item for titty
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>>335710571

>Staves have scaling
>Staves also have buff adjust
>both affect the WA's potency and spells
>some staves have special affects, but WAs are always the same

That's pretty much it. Heretic is good because you can find it early and nothing really compared to it damage-wise. Court Sorcerer's Staff is basically just an even better version of the staff.

I wouldn't dismiss the others, though. Witchtree Branch casts EXTREMELY fast at the cost of having lower scaling. Man-Grub scales heavily with Luck and can be useful for those types of builds. Izalith out-performs Court Sorcerer when using dark sorceries. Mendicant gives you extra souls, which is useful when farming the golden winged knights. Storyteller has poison gas.

Sure, not all of them are good, but they can be useful depending on your character's quirks.
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>Get summoned to duel a host
>He starts chugging his estus
>Black stone out
>NO GUYS YOU GET BANNDED IF YOU DO DAT

Sure anon
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>Have been in Watchdogs of Farron for about 10 hours
>Got summoned once
>Host DC'd as I was about to kill them

I-I didn't want all the achievements anyway.
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ADD IT
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>>335710841
Give 10 pale tongues to Rosaria's Fingers
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>>335711583
>not using hunter charms
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>>335711624
should have done it when you were in level range you dingus
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>tfw magic gets buffed
>5% damage buff to sorceries
>miracles get nothing
I can see it already. It looks like someone at From must really hate clerics.
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>>335706419
gotthard twinswords will probably be buffed actually. they arent very good
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>>335711249
I use it but it's so not good.
>beams have really short range making them useless in PVE against bosses
>R2 beam often just hits the ground 2 feet in front of you
>weapon art is too slow and doesn't move you forward like Bloodborne

>>335711348
It broke. Pretty cool that they change what it looks like, I wonder if that extends to all weapons.

>>335711541
Thanks
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>>335711541
>Izalith out-performs Court Sorcerer when using dark sorceries
This is a lie. At 60 int and 30 faith. My Court Sorcerer staff deals more damage with dark sorceries.

If you go 30/30 to only use the terrible dark sorceries, then maybe it's worth it.
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>>335711745
What exactly are you expecting from Patches?
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>>335711710
taking a sip in a duel is forfeiting.
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>>335711710
> host just runs for 20 seconds and there's nothing you can do about it except run after him

Unless he's at like 1% health and a throwing knife or two can end him, there's absolutely nothing you can do.
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>>335705184
So are they buffing or nerfing the twinswords? I'm using the sellsword or brigand twin blades (can't remember which) and they seem like they're already in a good place.
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>>335711649
That or make the red eye change colors to work for purples, wolves, and blurs.
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>>335711710
This.

I love it when I invade a 3v1, wait for them to get near some mobs, and pelt them with hunter charms. Works especially well in Ithryll with those Immolation Tinder knights and their bullshit range.
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>>335711745

What's worse is that magic doesn't even need it. after 40ish int it starts hitting like a fucking RPG. Absolutely no need to buff it.
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>>335711583
>get summoned for duel
>chugger
>run across the zone and hide in an obscure corner as a chair
>he has to die or dc to resolve me locking him in the zone and out of bonfires
>my summon makes him more prevalent on the invasion list but only gives him one slot to summon help
>if he fingers it still only gives him a 3v2, and I can join in with invaders to even it up
>I can even dump alluring skulls to train him with tons of mobs
If I get summoned by a faggot, I just assume he wants me to fuck him in the ass.
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>>335710439
980 and I drop to 50fps or lower on a regular basis regardless of graphics settings. I've never experienced the lighting crash, but the game has far fewer drops on lighting low even if everything else is max.

Will not pay for the game until they fix this. A game that looks like dark souls 3 has absolutely no fucking business not being able to hold 60fps on a $400 GPU.
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>>335711583
god that's annoying
I don't care if they chug when I'm invading because I am unwelcome
But you invite me into your house for honorbru dure then I expect honorbru dure
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>>335711785

Oh, shit, that's probably why it's better. Tested it out on a 40/40 and a 50.
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"Short swords" is actually a translation error. It should say daggers.
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>>335711854
They're probably nerfing the roll attack on the twinblades.

That's stupidly quick and damaging. Probably toned down the damage. I doubt they changed the attack itself on such short notice.
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>>335711876
But the red eye does work for purples and aldrich fags. Not sure about watchdogs though.
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>>335707431

Why not both? I would love to be able to invade the guilty while also helping others. It's so dumb to attach a covenant to another one
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>>335712057
But I want a purple eye.
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>>335711942
i feel like anyone who heals in pvp in any souls game outside of miracle healing (which requires stat investment and a long casting time) you should literally fucking die for being a casual ape bitch.
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>>335711914
the game is terribly optimized for processors. I had your issue but it wasnt the graphics card. I had to enable maximum performance mode in control panel and then overclock the cpu massively.
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>>335711624
It takes like 2 hours to farm with 350 item discovery.
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>>335711907
Stop lying on the internet anon.
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>cant infuse the weapons i want to use
fuck this
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>>335712198
Healing was fine in DaS2. It's only such faggotry 3 because it's basically impossible to punish. If Estus was slower to sip and healed over time rather than instantly it would be a LOT better.
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>>335712123
I should start swapping to blue when running around embered, just to give them some entertainment

>>335712198
nah, that's dumb
If I want to get from point a to b and some invader is in my way you better believe I'm playing dirty

Alternatively:
If I'm invading and they have 2 phantoms you better believe I'm playing dirtier
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>>335712198
fuck off with your shit. Healing is part of the fight.
Both players should get at least 3 heals. If your opponent heals its your fault. This is why we need arenas
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Any tips for getting better at pvp? I always seem to lose to people that are able to run for longer, and when they finally turn to fight I get edged out by an estoc or something along those lines.

I don't have any problem with magic. My issues would be that my timing for pvp is bad in the sense that I always get hit when rolling away/to the side of a swing and mine never seem to connect, even when trying to make up for the lag with reads.

Any tips/advice? Currently using a longsword until I find a bigger weapon.
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Any good tips for fighting against someone wielding dual katanas?
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>>335707559
>be a parry baiting faggot
>get backstab fished

Woah, it's like you're both equally faggots.
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>>335712576
> block their running and rolling attacks
> use a straightsword to counterattack
> gg ez
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>>335711758
>>335709569

Chances are the roll -> attack move is gonna have it's range and damage reduced. Shit is fucking broken.
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>>335712505
This was true in old souls games when you could punish a sip with a BS. But its impossible to punish sipping now and you get half the sips of the host. Its blatantly cheating to take sips in a duel.

Do what you want in an invasion
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Does this mean another buff for dancer swords? That triple damage typing really fucking hurts.
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More blue tongues for me I guess.
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>>335712396

I have nothing to gain from lying, I've done three magic run throughs and it's always been the easiest, try it and see instead of quitting when you think soul arrow is shit.

Make sure you use the WA on staves it is needed and exists for a reason.
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>>335712575
Sure.
Always bring hunter charms. Always.
And when they start running? Firebombs.

Get a shield with 100 physical block
Mix things up with an off-hand weapon, make it something you can parry with if need be.

>>335712576
Get a halberd or a spear. Stagger them and follow up with pyromancy.
>>335712678
At least parrying takes some effort and risk.
It's always satisfying landing one.
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>>335712369
i5-4670k at 4.5 isn't enough even though it's only being used at near 50% huh?

No. It's not the processor. I've seen people with 970s and 2500ks that don't get any frame drops. It's the graphics because the drops mostly go away if you turn lighting to low. Dropping from 60 to 43 sustained in the worst areas goes to 60 to 57 for a second or two.
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>>335713012
>At least parrying takes some effort and risk.
Not in this game, it's retardedly easy now.
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If I 2 hand a weapon and I don't get the little x anymore does it do full damage or does it still take damage away?
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>>335712967
Because you need to WA precast everything I just play pyro, same damage more uptime. They made damage very obnoxious in this game instead of fun
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>>335705184

Dang would short swords includ Anri's Straight Sword I really like luck weapons, hope it doesn't get nerfed hard.
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What's the ultra cancer PvP meme right now?
I'm making a character just to invade and assrape people.
Thinking of trying a Luck build with a great scythe or somethin'
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>>335713092
>getting parried

you're the only shitter here, m8
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>>335712057
Why do people keep saying it works for other covs? Its quite literally red, sunbro, or purp. No one else gets a unique reward even though they should
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>>335713189
Barbed set and straight sword. Just roll at people and backstab fish for maximum faggotry.
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>>335713189
full havel + iron flesh + sacred flame
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>>335713092
Well yeah I agree.
Especially when 90% of the people you invade just walk up and mash light attack with a short sword.
And they did make it so that your timing can be slightly off and you still land it.
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How the fuck does Luck actually influence Poison and Bleed?
I literally cannot find any information on this.
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So, am I the only one who Grapes until I get a success and my Ember restored and then Way of Blue Dried Finger until I die?
I've gotten a number of Sentinels their rewards.
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>IF YOU DIE AS AN INVADER YOU DROP YOUR SOULS WHERE YOU DIED
FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>335713306
I play a pyromancer.
You don't really need a lot of armor. It wont work on a non-retarded opponent more than once anyway.
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>>335713146

It's not even close to the same damage though, I mean don't get me wrong I don't disagree that pyro is strong but outside of the ooze mobs there's very little that it does over 1k against, with both rings, candle stick, 60 int and crown of dusk my great heavy soul arrows hit for over 900 on most trash and sometimes more on bosses.

Try it you'll see for yourself!
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>>335711745
get faith to 60 and sunlight spears will do 1500 damage which basically oneshots everyone in the game

and if it doesnt, they are someone who gouged vigor to 99 so they do piss for damage
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>>335713545
Ever since i had to farm for darkmoon i have been way of blue every time i am embered up.
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>>335713608
Probably should get good anon.
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>>335713608
It's been like this since DS1
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I hope they'll remove some of the illusory walls.
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>>335713608
That's really the worst part of invading. You get jack shit for souls to begin with but unless you clear the level you risk losing everything you gained from previous invasions.
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Does this mean pyromancy will get buffed too or stay the same?
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>>335712864
The only duels are red soapstones
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>>335713773
>having problems getting souls

wut
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>>335712678
but parry/riposte takes skill, backstab does not and is literally the mark of a baddie.

Top tier skilled players parry/riposte.
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>>335713424
HELP
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>>335707247
someone was saying the magic change is a nerf to GCFB and souls stream
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>>335713852

maybe in 1 or 2 but in 3 parrying is easy as fuck and any retard can do it.
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>>335705184
Soundss great, i use a pyro but i'm looking forward to fighting more wizards, i'm sick of rapier and dark sword fags in PvP
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>>335713608

I'll take soul loss to unembering. We lose so little invading may as well have us do a corpse run if we fail.
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>>335713761
no, in DS1 your souls drop at the location where you used the red eye orb, not where you died.
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>>335712198
Healing means you get to pvp more.

You autists are fucking retards I swear.
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>>335713802
Pyromancy is the strongest of the three so probably not
Well some pyromancies are shit but there are enough good ones to fill your attunement slots.
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>>335713985
>Calling someone an autist when you are too bad to avoid getting hit so you have to compensate with healing
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>>335713804

This, if I use a red soapstone I expect a fair level fight out of the host and plan on giving one in turn. In an invasion I use every dirty trick I can.

Time and place for everything.
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>>335713545
How exactly does way of blue work again?
And the dried finger makes you easier to invade, right?

I think I'm gonna start doing this is Farron Keep and Cathedral of the deep for shits and giggles.
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>>335713852
>but parry/riposte takes skill
No, it really doesn't.
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>>335713897

I really hope this isn't true.

Great Heavy Soul Arrow already does almost as much damage as Soul Stream while having shorter casting time and tracking. That would be dumb as hell.

GCFB I can definitely see getting nerfed even though it's not that overpowered in the first place. I guess they have to do something to balance out the fact that it requires no INT or FAI investment to use.

Still kinda lame if that's true.
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>>335714080
>being a spastic loser
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I would love to think magic was going to get buffed, but we all know that isn't true.
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>Twinswords getting buffed
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>>335714080

This is the same kind of arguement against "noob"tubing in COD. It's in the game so people use it, invaders get less sips by design.
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Why don't they release detailed patch notes instead of the vague shit?
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>>335714127
Way of Blue, if you get invaded by a Sinner, a nearby Blue Sentinel will automatically come to your aid.
And yeah, Dried Finger gives you max priority for Invasions, equal to that of a guy with 3 Phantoms.
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>>335713761
no it hasnt? in ds1 you drop your souls where you used the orb.
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>>335714148
>GCFB
?
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>>335713804
>summon red soapstone on iron bridge in ds2
>throws poison knives
>has a bow on secondary
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>>335714168
you shouldn't be on 4chan if you aren't a spastic loser

maybe plebbit or gameFAQs is more your style.
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>>335714295
Le hard dark souls meme ;)
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I just got into invading, I literally never did it with my first character, but since my second one is part of Rosarias fingers I need to invaded.

I thought /v/ was a whole bunch of ass pained red phantom shitters who couldnt beat people when they complained about how unfair invading is. But the reality, is all too true. After invading for 4 hours in the Cathedral of the Deep only 3 people fought me 1v1. The rest either ran away while I fought their phantom to summon another, or rushed me 3v1. I will admit, winning an invasion 1v3 feels amazing. But its ridiculously unfair, it seems invading now purposely connects you to games with multiple players.

I just want pale tongues for my waifu
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>>335714295
cause FROM thinks it's epic to make everything Souls related to be vague as fuck
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>>335714248
Probably nerfed.
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>>335714342

Great Chaos Fireball.
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>>335705184
>straight swords will still be king
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>>335714416

Don't force your "we're all losers here" mentality just because you wanna fit in.

GameFAQ's has plenty more spastic losers than 4chan.
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>>335714472
you will never ever get to invade someone with a 1v1, the game is coded to only invade people who have at least 1 phantom.

in that vein, use the most OP, dickish thing you can think of. exploit bugs, do whatever you can to kill these people, because they will not have a fair and honorable fight. Fuck them up.
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>>335714472
>those names
truly we are in the age of darkness
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>>335714472

What platform are you playing on?
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>>335714532
Ah. Technically it would be GCFO then.it's orb not ball in this game.
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>>335714575
if you aren't a loser you are a normalfag, aka the mortal enemy of 4chan

Fuck off Chad
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>>335714472
>>335714592
No, it's not.
>Guy who never summons Phantoms or use Dried Finger
>Just got invaded on my Pyromancer in the Road of Sacrifice swamp while fighting the 2 fatties by the elevator to Farron Keep.
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>>335714148
I'll just use remnants of the bed of chaos then.

If they nerf that too then fuck you from.
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Caestus buff when?
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>>335714472

The scales are tipped against invaders this time around. If you only want 1v1's being an invading red isn't what you want to do. I suggest red soapstone or Dark Souls 2.

I love the chaos of a huge melee. It also permits the red to be a huge dick with zero guilt.
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They really really should straight up buff the speed or/and power of magic, they do laughably low damage since they can't combo into multiple hits, are way too telepgraphed, and ranged attacks aren't even as good as they were in older games since you're much faster now and it's a lot easier to close the distance between ranged foes.
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>>335714592
I've been invaded plenty of times and I never summon.

What did you expect when the game has just been released and every normie needs an army of phantoms to do the PvE?
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>>335713763
Holy shit that's funny.
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>>335714472
>>335714592
If you want to 1v1 join the sunbros and place red soap stones. That way you'll trick people into summoning you.

Most of my invasions are 1v1 also, you guys are just unlucky.

And 3v1 isn't even that hard, just target the shitters first or target the host. They're naturally illogically more inclined to take hits if there are more of them than you so use that to your advantage.
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>>335714685

You forgot your "Reee", nerd.
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>>335714667

You're right. I'm just too used to "fireball".
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>>335710356
Shit happens to me all the time
>thanks, our 2v3 is now YOUR 1v3
Have fun you retarded faggot
imad
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>>335714787
Not to mention them removing all the interesting spells ds2 added that allowed casters to mix things up, rather than having nothing but soulmass and soul arrows.
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>>335714708
You can still be invaded without phantoms, sure. You can also get summoned by the darkmoon/sentinels to stop invaders.
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>>335711193
>having an entire covenant become useless because you want to play the game beyond a certain point

don't even try to defend this shit
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>>335714976
Yeah, I'm commenting cause the other Anon said "the game is coded to only invade people who have at least 1 phantom."
Which it isn't.
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>>335714870
I'm not a faggot from /r9k/

Are you really that new that you don't know the term "normalfag" and calling normalfag males "Chad" was coined by moot in the 2005 Otakon panel? You are that new, aren't you?
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It's really sad how DS2 still has the best pvp in the series. DS3's pvp is even worse than DS1's because it tried to mix BB and DeS' lolnopoise, small weapons always win bullshit into it.

DS3 has better pve at least.

>>335715025
This. It's absolutely fucking annoying to expect me to wait for 12 hours maxing out the covenant rank before moving on, it should be done gradually as you progress through the game.
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>>335714932
It's funny when they add ds2 good spells except complete shit, like the black serpent pyromancy which doesn't track shit like it's supposed to and has ridiculously short range, or pestilent mercury which doesn't work well with the targeting and always spawns in your fucking FACE HOLY SHIT
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>>335715025
This. You can't defend the immense bullshit that is about half of DS3 covenants.
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>>335715089

Read that post aloud, do you hear what you sound like?
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>>335707559

>Bitching about katanas
>Fucking estoc
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>>335710645
>The only people who believe this shit
pic related
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>>335705184
>nothing on wolves of farron
FUCK
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>Backstab fishing
>Parry baiting
>M1 spamming

Why are these looked down upon? Are you meant to do nothing but trade hits until someone dies? Is it unavoidable to get backstabbed? Is there no risk at all to miss a parry?
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>>335710356
>Invade in Ithryll as a purple
>They gang up on me
>Take them to that cellar with all those fucking invisible ghost things
>The host + phantom kill me
>I get to watch them both die because of the stupid amount of damage those enemies do.
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>>335715126

You have to consider that DaSII got tons of patches and also a total rerelease. It wasn't that good early on.
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