I've been enjoying the Rachet and Clank remake.
What do you think of it /v/?
Would you want to see new Ratchet games for PS4?
I absolutely love it and yes more Ratchet would be great. Insomniac needs to drop VR and get working on more Ratchet.
>>335674810
Personally, I enjoyed this game but it's pretty fucking clear that the Insomnaic that made this is not the same team that made the original trilogy
I love this series and I want to see it continue but I want Insomniac to leave and see a new talented studio take the helm
Pretty good
Then I got the jetpack and it became the most fun I've had in ages
Then I went to the next planet and found out I couldn't use the jetpack anymore
Pls tell me it isn't just on one planet
>>335675947
You use it inthe final boss
>>335675947
You get to use it versus two more bosses and in a part of the Blarg's homeworld.
>>335674810
>Would you want to see new Ratchet games for PS4?
Didn't it sell 3more then what acit did in the UK? Also one of the artists for the game thanked people for buying the game long after it released, so I'm pretty sure we'll be getting more R&C games.
It's excellent so far and I hope they make more R&C in the near future. The graphics are the best I've seen on the ps4 so far and it really does look like a Pixar movie. I think it's a nice relief from all the competitive games that have been coming out. It's a game that you can lay back and just enjoy, finally.
>>335676228
>>335676058
ty lads
>>335674810
Does anybody else hate the sound of Clank helipack? They could've kept,the same sound for nostalgia's sake
No. I'd rather them do more interesting things than be tied down to a franchise they've made a ton of games for in a short amount of time.
I don't think they should go the naughty dog route (fuck no, and fuck them), but I'd rather them not end up like Guerilla or Liverpool either.
>>335675851
This. Fucking this. Didn't help that they had to tie it into a movie reboot either.
In Japan, R&C 2016 is literally called "Ratchet and Clank: The Game", which shows you the development mindset that went into this.
>>335677140
They could have kept a lot of things for nostalgia's sake, but they didn't.
>>335677249
>No Courtney Gears
Why live?
>>335677415
Pretty sure she was only in 2.
>>335677415
Gotta save her for the 3 remake.
Wish there was more replay value. I platinum'd the game so fast I already miss playing it.
Also where is my goddamn mirror world cheat code?
YES YES YES, Insomniac, YES we do YES
>>335675851
Yea, it just confirmed that I won't be buying anything else from them.
All Force one, Fuse, Sunset overdrive, Resistence 3. They're not improving
Playing it now and Big Al just said m'lady
>difficulty affects the amount of O2 you get underwater
>hard mode sewer with rising water
>>335677971
Hoverboard races are also harder
>>335677971
>>335678045
wish they had changed the hoverboard races in some way
right now the second race is super easy because using all the shortcuts guarantees that you win
I think this game was rushed and they cut the price expecting a shitstorm due to all the reused levels and the half-baked, disjointed plot.
The levels held up beautifully though and it's still as much fun as it always was, so the concerns were unfounded.
They changed it now it sucks, a pity they dropped Orxon and Oltanis, and botched Ratchet and Qwark's character arcs, but hey fuck it, the original still exists in the end.
I wish they'd just sending out the disposable bargain basement stuff and come out with a great, full-length game in this series, though. It's already been seven damn years since they released one I'd call complete. Nothing but "it's fine, but..." games since then.
>>335677971
To be honest, it might be me not being a retarded child but this was easy for me as an adult on Hard because I just kept R1 jumping my way through the sewer
>>335678889
>he got clank's helipack update before going to blackwater city
>>335675851
>but it's pretty fucking clear that the Insomnaic that made this is not the same team that made the original trilogy
The people that made the first game are not the same people that made GC and the people that made GC is not the same people that made UYA, etc, etc.
>>335678110
>use shortcuts on laps 1 and 2
>rivals still up your arse
>use them on lap 3
>finish 15 seconds ahead of the next guy
>>335678783
It's a testament to how good the R&C formula is, that such a shallow, mess of a game, is still so damn enjoyable. They could have butchered it to ridiculous levels, but it'd still be like crack, as long as they kept that sweet spot they found for drops and weapon lvl up frequency.
>>335678994
i don't think he was going for a ship of theseus commentary there buddy, he's saying the tone is so noticeably different to the original you can tell it's a *very* different team handling it, which is true
What order to play the PS3 games in
>>335679206
Production order
>>335679206
HD Trilogy
Tools of Destruction
Quest For Booty
Crack in Time
Nexus
YMMV on the rest.
>>335678994
That's wrong though, listen to the devs play through ratchet 1,2 and 3. A majority of the dev team stayed on for all three games
>>335677249
>flip glitch
It's not a glitch if it's intentional. Something like that doesn't just happen by accident
That being said there's no way they would have gotten away with it in the current year
>>335681254
Mike Stout was actually brought back for this game and apparently worked on some of the clank segments among other things
I have to say I'm amazed they were able to make clank gadgebot gameplay that didn't surmount to different types of buttons. There was actual effort put into designing the order you had to do things in and juggling the placement of gadgebots and shit
>cora wasn't ratchet's new love interest
>she and brax barely existed at all
>elaris was the only one with personality
>she has the shittest design
>>335683597
>Cora sounds like a dude trying to sound like a girl trying to sound like a dude
>has the most fucking lines of the supporting cast barring Qwark
were there no other voice actresses available
>mfw replayed R&C3 on an emulator the other day because my PS2 is borked
I like the modern games, but goddamn the original trilogy is on another planet of quality entirely.
>ratchet gets an infobot on batalia where his surrogate brother asks him to help out his brother
>says 'I'm proud of you' at the end
>on pokitaru, brother tells ratchet 'he would be proud of you
>ratchet says 'I don't know' despite the infobot that got him to that location explicitly telling him so
get it together TJ
>>335684049
surrogate father. Grim or feltzin, whichever one it is
>>335684038
I'm surprised you got the games running on an emulator. They emulate like shit.
It's too short, and the framerate drops even below 30 fps sometimes, but aside from those points I'm enjoying it very much and currently going through NG+
>>335684317
>too short
it's 10 fucking hours
QFB is too short, this one is only an hour less than the original game
>>335684210
I had to run it in Software mode and it ran like a hot turd even on my i7-4770, but I still loved every second of it.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/ratchet/filename/maxresdefault/type/op/
So ti's really ok when sony does it.
>>335684539
>multiple people use one of the first results on google images
WOOOOWWW
>>335684640
fuck you sonycuck
this game sux
pc master race forever
>this track isn't in the game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4_IofWQXk
>>335684937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M91cpRE8HYA
This one is loosely derivative
>>335684937
>none of the music is anywhere near as memorable and enjoyable to hear as Bergaud's work
Don't get me wrong, the new one's soundtrack can be good but it's just like the rest of the future games - good.
>you will never hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3HQM_RPaVA in glorious remastered HD with the level to boot
>>335684640
Oh, you are right, it's shilling only when other companies do it. Nevermind. Sony is flawless, viva sony.
>>335685324
The main difference is, for the most part, bergeaud focused on writing each song around one catchy melody that only lasted a couple bars yet repeated on a near endless loop, just deriving different additional tracks that came and went on top of the repeating 'key' loop. That repetition is a large part of what made the music both catchy and memorable (although besides that he does also have a distinct grungy early-00s tone that sets the atmosphere really well)
Bross writes more 'musically' in the sense that there's longer melodies with some recurring themes, but pieces are written more traditionally 'orchestrally' with multiple countermelodies and harmonies. Recently he's shifting more to blending electronic sounds with the orchestral (just compare A4O's ost to RC16). Melodically I'd argue it's more complex and 'better' from a technical music standpoint, however it's simply not as memorable because it doesn't have the same 'looping hook' style that bergeaud successfully used
>>335685767
Oh god no I agree completely. I just prefer memorability in music for association. I associate Metropolis with that particular them (and you're damn right about the atmosphere). Bross makes GOOD music but he does a lot of it. On every level it high quality music it's just harder to remember and associate beyond general themes in the music IE Veldin was PEACEFUL, Aleero City was URBAN.
>>335674810
I enjoyed it,played through it three times and got the platinum trophy but I doubt I'll play it again anytime soon,it's good but it's certainly not the best....One of the worst parts about it though is the Galactic Rangers,Brax and Elaris may as well not even exist and Coras voice actor was awful....Elaris seemed kinda cool I guess but she had like three lines.
>>335677249
What flip glitch? Is it the thrust pack side flip thing?
>>335686276
They really shat the bed in attempting to incorporate the movie's plot into a game
>>335685767
I think "simple" music works better for video games.
At best, the music is not there just to fit the mood, but to be an integral part of the level, and it needs to be easily recognizable to do that
>>335686350
The "glitch" isn't a glitch but an intentional easter egg
If you side flip in front of the hoverboard girl her boobs expand. It's not in the remake for obvious reasons (although I believe it's intact in the PS3 port)
>>335686382
Yeah,and the funny thing is since they put a bunch of scenes from the movie in it I actually want to see the movie less now that I've played the game...I have a pretty good idea of what's going to happen and how it'll end,so why waste money on a ticket?
>the sheepinator is literally the A4O critter strike model
>>335687280
Pretty sure they re-used the model for the RYNO from Tools of Destruction too.
>>335687280
I hate how when it upgrades to the goatinator it kills things that are already goats making its ability to have the goats attack things useless
>>335687280
They rused a lot of stuff this game
>>335686467
This. Only autists on /v/ would complain about something so retarded. They're releasing the game as promotion for their child-friendly feature film, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to assume they're gonna exclude any tit expansion easter eggs
>>335687992
It would've been neat if she reacted to you trying to activate it, like how the Qwarkbots allude to the skill point in the original.
>>335677971
There's no trophy or reward for playing on hard, so why do it?
>>335689156
Because challenging = fun
This is the first time in a very long time I've actually had to put effort into not dying. The prediction aiming AI is really good on hard, you can't use the traditional 'strafe jump constantly to avoid all shots' because they're smarter than that
>>335674810
I don't like how I can't have multiple saves if want to start a new game I have to delete my old one
>>335687992
The original game was for kids as well.
>>335690106
>What is Ratchet Gladiator on hardest
>>335690492
Make a second user account on your ps4.
>>335674810
Bought it day 1 but havent played it yet due to work.
Hopefully its critical and commercial success leads to more games like it on the PS4
>>335690685
And 2002 was 14 years ago, things are different now. The butthurt that would have ensued had the easter egg been included would have been astronomical.
>>335690756
It's a damage slider in Deadlocked. What they've done since Nexus is make enemies lead their shots. It makes it real hard to not get hit when the screen is full of enemies. You can't just strafe left infinitely to avoid everything. They also spray their shots, so you can't quickly go left, then right, either.
>>335691105
I don't see how it should be different now.
So how's the movie anyway? It's playing at ny local theater right now. Not that I want to see it, I just saw a poster on the street one day and was shocked that they actually made a R&C novie.
>>335691314
Really? You don't see how the past 4 years of SJW and NeoGAF bitching would discourage including such an easter egg?
>>335691173
Sonny, so many fucking enemies in Deadlocked aim where you are going to be, do sweeping attacks or use barrages while others can attack you with easy on your dodge.
There is a reason they give you the shield launcher so early.
no plumber crack no buyer back.
>>335692437
The Plumber is in the game,but they don't make a "plumbers crack" joke this time.
>>335692437
>>335692606
it still awkwardly zooms onto his butt for some reason, despite removing that dialogue
>>335692175
And RC16 doesn't have a shield launcher, therefore it's harder
>>335692974
>yfw they did have it in but sony censors told them to cut it out
>get RYNO
>defeat Nefarious in less than 30 seconds
:/
>>335694161
They made to easy to get in my opinion
>>335693807
Im sorry anon, do you die in 1 hit on anything?
And do you not have that fucking volleyball launcher be actually good for once? Alongside some rather nice weaponry too and another stupid R.Y.N.O?
Guess who won the new Death Battle.....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jKoeSRhF1nc
I never played the PS3 games, but I get the distinct sense they're more childish than the PS2 ones. R&C was always borderline too kiddy my me, but the PS3 and PS4 ones are over that line.
>>335694723
Eh, I never really gave much of a shit about these. Also seemed like those autistic ramblings when you were 10 on the playground.
>>335695018
I don't think the genocide of the Cragmites and the Lombax trail of tears should count as childish, but okay.
>>335695018
I too, only play mature games for mature people such as myself.
UYA > ToD > ACiT = GC > R&C > R&C 2016 > ITN
>>335695643
>R&C being ahead of R&C 2016
I'm glad you enjoy not being able to strafe and the schmorgashborg of filler planets.
>>335695165
seemingly 'mature' plots can be executed in a kiddy way
The PS3 games are proof of that
>>335695643
>TOD that high
For what purpose? It's almost as bad as RC1 with regards to lack of polish and unrefined-ness
GC >= UYA > CIT > RC16 > DL > ITN > QFB > RC1 > TOD > A4O > FFA
>>335695968
>umbris
>gemlik base
>filler
>>335695018
The only game that feels too kiddy to me is the newest one,and that's mostly because they're pushing the film as a "fun for the whole family!" thing.
>>335696186
And that's a bad thing?
It's pretty good. Nowhere near as robust as R&C 2 and 3, nor as long, but it's pretty good. Yet to play the PS3s ones though, so I'll probably go through them to complete the series.
Some issues for me is the complete and utter lack of enemy variety (Blarg here, Warbot there), bad audio balancing (Generic orchestra drowns out dialogue), and the games unexplained obsession with bad social media jokes.
>>335696941
>bad social media jokes.
Oh, than you're gonna love the dated Top 8 joke in Tools of Destruction.
What's so bad about tools of destruction? I haven't played it in a long time I remember liking it
>>335697714
You know when you play a game, and its a alright game, but it just feels like a tech demo?
Story is okay, graphics are alright, but it misses its core?
Its essence, its sense of personality, that one thing that makes it different than just writting no story and just making 7 planets on a old engine? That's tools of destruction for me anon, a game that is alright, but will never be anything above it due to obvious lack of detail and care.
>>335696941
>and the games unexplained obsession with bad social media jokes
All, what, two of them? One of which is completely missable and the other inoffensive?
>>335674810
I wouldn't if they remade all the ps2 ratchet games. I'd like to try an updated online as i never got to try it out only local
>>335697962
It's just kind of the red headed stepchild.
It came after the zenith of the franchise in Up Your Arsenal but before the solid top contender that was Crack in Time. Not to mention, it ends on a cliffhanger.
>>335698179
>next ratchet game
>full on multiplayer TDM/CTF/Capture
>8v8 or higher
>start out with combuster/fusion grenade
>get to upgrade each weapon or invest your earnings into a new weapon
>ammo pickups around the map
>RYNO as power weapon
>leveling up outside the game unlocking skins, Emotes etc.
fuck i want this so much.
>>335698386
>start out with combuster/fusion grenade
Not again they should make new weapons or maybe use the lancer and gravity bomb or the n60 storm and the nirto launcher
>>335678783
I agree, the game is rushed as all fuck. It's super short, they literally just grabbed what I assume are scenes from the film and tried to awkwardly piece them together into a coherent plot and there are a ridiculous amount of bugs. It also somehow makes the story of the first game worse by having Ratchet and Clank be bland personality-less fucks who just become best of friends instantly, whereas in the original first game they're arguing a lot until they gradually come to terms with each other. And there's no arena in the game. It's too bad because the graphics and controls are great, so maybe in the future when they're not so rushed they can come out with a good "real" R&C game.
>>335679163
Did you notice that the hoverboard "races" aren't really races against anything but the clock? You're basically trying to get a certain time and anything under that time wins you the race. You can see it because you'll be behind the entire race then magically near the end the other racers forget how to do anything and you easily pull ahead of them and win.
>>335698580
i mean, pistol and a grenade seem like a good start in a multiplayer game. it was just an example.
DO NOT TALK TO MR.ZURKON OR HIS SON EVER AGAIN
>>335674810
So between this and the Ratchet and Clank trilogy, which one should I get first (as a newcomer to the series)?
I miss the morph o ray
>>335698927
graphics and controls might be jarring if you play the new one before the original.
however, personally i don't think it doesn't matter tooo much.
just play them all.
How can people say UYA is the best when it doesnt even have grind rails, shop segments, shit battlefield segments, downgrade in weaponry from GC and forgettable planets?
GC < R&C < ACIT < RC16 < Deadlocked < UYA < ToD
>>335699103
>shop segments
?
>>335699103
if you're not gonna rate them all, don't rate them at all.
GC=UYA >ACiT>2016>Nexus>Deadlocked>ToD>QfB>Spin Offs
>>335699293
ship
>>335699103
>downgrade in weaponry from GC
Be honest, how often did you actually use shit like the spiderbot or clank zapper? The reduce in weapon count wasn't a loss
>>335698176
I meant game's.
Chill out.
>>335674810
imagen a full remake of Ratchet And Clank 3 with these graphics
>>335700742
It would be great and I would buy the shit out of it,but I kinda wanna see them do a new game.
>>335700947
>i kinda wanna see them do a new game
Meh have low expectations. Content is gonna lack heavy
>>335700742
What they need to do is have a R&C game where you're in a big city and you have grind rails everywhere to get around and you shoot a lot of monsters and robots with new crazy guns that level up as you use them. That'd be insane!
>>335700742
>they take out the whole secret agent clank subplot because of the giant clank battle
>MFW reading reviews of people complaining about how hard the hoverboard segments are
>MFW these people never played the original.
>>335698580
ignoring the Dual Vipers and the B6 is a sin anon.
>>335701056
You literally just described Sunset Overdrive
>>335701091
>hoverboard segments in 2016 R&C
>hard
Are you fucking kidding? I remember pulling my hair out at the originals I was so frustrated. In this game you can easily complete all the cups as soon as they're available on your first try, there's no actual challenge you're just racing the clock
>>335701162
That's the joke!
>>335701092
Forgot about those the dual vipers were great b2 obliterator was okay
>>335701236
I found them challenging on hard to start off, but by challenge mode I was able to get the rilgar time trophy on my second or third attempt. The Kalebo one's piss easy because of the shortcuts
>>335701281
In terms of design I mean, Id take the b6 over the Mini-nuke or gravity bomb. MKaye buff it a litle, always felt lackluster
Nitro Launcher is objectively the best bomb weapon because it implodes before it explodes
>>335674810
Game is too short
>>335701526
>35$
What do you expect nigger?
>>335701236
I know right?
People really have forgotten how fiendishly difficult the first R&C Game was. Fucking two headed crabs with piss poor ranged attacks were considered one of the most dangerous things in the game. Let alone the few times you have to deal with hover tanks.
>>335701526
>10 hours
>at least twice that to 100% it
>>335700742
I'm fine with the original aesthetic to be honest. Still looks nice on the HD collection.
>>335675851
Mike Stout and Tony Garcia, Insomniac vets from their PS2 days, are literally credited for helping with this game
>it's pretty fucking clear that the Insomnaic that made this is not the same team that made the original trilogy
Uh, in what way? Some levels are beat-for-beat the same levels from the original game. The worst people can say is "well the characters never shut up" which you can stop by turning off voice volume.
You're probably also talking about the lack of "adult humor" which (if you've followed Insomniac at all) you'd know, Sony has been pushing them to drop constantly with every new game. They wouldn't even let them call ACIT "Clockblockers".
On top of that, this is a movie game (and therefore subject to the scrutiny/demands of the film producers and suits) and it's still miles better than Into The Nexus as a Ratchet sequel anyway.
Their goal with the Ratchet series since the beginning has been to make a "playable Pixar film" and that's exactly what this + the movie is supposed to accomplish.
>b-but the insomniac museum isn't epic like Crack in Time or whatever!
the original game didn't even HAVE one, and as it states, it's just a collection of assets and paraphernalia celebrating 15 years of R&C. I think this game as a whole does that extremely well.
Now the WRITERS on the other hand... kinda feels like *they* went full retard...
like the game part is great but the pacing and plot feels strange... once I see the movie in a few days I'll see if it still makes no sense.
tl;dr i platinum'd the game and the game parts are okay but the plot is bad
>>335696295
I dunno. I just really liked the planets, the weapons and the upgrade system.
>>335702901
>Sony has been pushing them to drop constantly with every new game
Do you have a source on that? Clockblockers would have been pushing it, making a dick pun is several tiers worse than an ass pun
>>335702901
>Their goal with the Ratchet series since the beginning has been to make a "playable Pixar film"
What the fuck are you talking about? The latest R&C is the ONLY R&C to display any interest in likening itself to pixar shit.
>>335703419
every ratchet game has gotten the title changed due to executive meddling
>>335703869
The movie and game were built on top of Tools of Destruction assets, as they felt that game was the closest to looking like a playable Pixar movie
>>335704486
What was the old title of up your arsenal?
>>335677819
But Resistance 3 was alright
>>335677819
Sunset Overdrive was fun
