>takes only 25 hours to beat with no replayability
t. B-team
>>335658818
>i pirated it
:D
>>335658859
On topic of piracy. If I buy the game after pirating it can I continue on with my progress on the legitimate game?
DaS3>BB>DaS1=DeS>DaS2
>>335659035
i've heard that you can get softbanned for doing that
>tfw you fell for the linear souls meme
that sounds about the right length for all the games
hell, DeS was like 15 hours on my first blind playthrough
>>335659086
Deciding to buy their game gets me softbanned?
>>335658818
>B-team
Explains why this game has so many shockwaves.
>>335658818
>both my first two playthroughs took 40 hours
kill yourself senpai
>>335659167
Regardless of whether you like DkS2 or not, it is by far the longest of the Soulsbourne games
>>335658818
It took me 112 hours to beat it, and I'm not even bad at souls games. Beat all the other games, and the only boss that killed me over 5 times here was nameless king.
>>335658818
Why are people saying this game is short? It's not even the shortest in the series, DS1 is.
>>335658882
KEEP ON FOLLOWING, CRAB.
>>335659296
AFK time doesn't count as play time anon.
>>335659329
Mainly because Bloodbourne and Dark Souls 2 are longer (especially 2).
>>335659269
i didn't even mention DS2, but yeah, it does have the most content. the main game is easily the longest and it has three DLC packs
>>335658882
KEEP ON ROLLING, CRAB
that's a long time for one singleplayer game
if steam tracked how much time on 4chan I'd have over 9000 haha
>>335658882
Sleep tight Rudy. You were too good for this world.
>>335658818
>rushing a new game
>a souls game at that
>>335658818
>no replayability
you're doing it wrong
It took me 50 hours. Why do I suck so bad
>>335659453
Yeah, it only has like 3 DLCs...
>>335658818
>caring about the afterbirth of bloodbourne
>>335659510
Oh anon you're such a card!
>>335659887
Even without the DLCs it is still at least 15 hours longer.
>>335659178
I think you get softbanned because it comes of as if you edited your save.
>>335659269
Quality > Quantity
>More than half the items in the game are just repeats from the last two
gay
>>335660176
This, almost every single Dark Souls 2 area was fucking awful, not to mention the DLC was all trash, don't drop that meme
>LE DLC WUZ DA BEST IN DA WHOEL GEAM!!
the enemy placements/amounts were fucking awful, and one of them I didn't even want to play at all because you are literally blind the whole time.
>70 hours between first play through and NG+
You sound like my friend who rushed through everything and then complained about he was under leveled.
>The fourth poison swamp area since Demon's Souls
>The fourth lava area since Demon's Souls
>The fourth catacombs area since Demon's Souls
>Literally Anor Londo again
>Literally the Tower of Latria again
Why can't they just come up with new themes and areas?
>>335661078
Agree'd, was so boring going through the same types of areas again. Archdragon peak was cool though. Would really like to see a tropical jungle, or some places in the abyss.
Nice meme
keep on going
all day long my man
>>335660150
Nice false flagging
It is pretty disappointing. The game suffers heavily from the linear set-up. Between that and the lack of variety in builds, there just isn't much of a reason to do more playthroughs.
>>335662819
yeah like 4 different endings you retard, new enemy placement and better loot in new game + you just went fully retard
>>335659269
>40 hours of godawful level design and bullshit enemies
The only absolutely fucking amazing thing about DaS2 is burnt ivory king.
>>335658818
That's not how you use t. you dumb fuck
>>335658882
KEEP ON FOLLOWING, CRAB
>>335661078
>no darkroot garden again
I'm in love with darkroot garden.
My favorite zone for pvp.
>>335663070
>4 different endings
I can just look those up, im looking for reasons to actually play.
>new enemy placement
I've gotten a decent bit into NG+ and all the enemies were in the same place.
>better loot
muh +1 rings
>>335660039
But the levels of DaS 2 is a chore to walk through and most of them aren't even that fun.
I prefer compact but well-designed levels rather than long and boring ones.
Longer game =/= better game.
>>335659636
It really felt rushed. And the fucking backtrack is real.
You end up going back to Lothric castle and it's just fucking meh. Like I'm sick of castles I want Dark Souls 1 varied areas.
>>335658818
Took me about 40, I'm now up to 60 with doing postgame stuff to prepare for NG+.
Probably gonna replay at least twice with different builds
Does your stamina affect how heavy of armor you can wear or is it just your vitality because I've already used almost thirty point into vitality and I still can't wear a full suit of lothric knight armor without my roll being slowed down.
>>335663332
1. best kind of cancer..did you know , you can look up the whole game and every game on the world! wooohh
2. not far enough it seems
3. so what? you can build the other boss weapons that you did not build, wake up retard..thats not kirbys dreamland new game plus
KEEP ON FOLLOWING; CRAB
I'm 40 hours in and I don't think I'm more than halfway. I have no desire to finish though because the game took a nosedive around Farron Keep.
>>335663332
Not him, but sounds to me that you're the problem.
Not the game.
I've completed it over 4 times, and i still want more.
Not even aiming for achievements, or doing pvp.
I just enjoy the game.
Also where's the thrill in looking the endings on youtube? It takes significance away feom them.
>>335663595
They are seperate stats, just look at the values that change when you level them up
>>335664063
You do realize that Farron Keep is optional right?
>>335663595
Nobody actually knows.
>>335664203
I don't think that's true. Even if it is, it doesn't affect my point: that the game becomes very tedious around that point and remains so afterwards.
>>335658818
I have 21 hours and i just arrived at Cathedral of the deep.
PVP, Coop, PVPCoop and all that has been giving me a blast so far.
Did I fuck up? It was an accident
>>335664165
Vitality increases your carrying cap and does help you roll better with more armor I've varified this but I've also hear from tons of people that stamina does the same thing as well or makes it so you can carry closer to the max without roll slowage? I've heard people say they stop lving vitality at 20 and I'm assuming it's because that use this method but i can't confirm it and like I said in almost 30 vitality now and still candle even wear lorthric armor which is one of the first armors without slowing my roll down? WTFFFFF!!!!!
>>335664560
I did this too
nothing hapened
>>335664323
The poisonous swamp was a chore to walk through but I find later areas really fascinating and worth it.
I think the swamp was among the lowest points of the game.
>>335658882
KEEP ON FOLLOWING, CRAB
>>335664560
>>335664638
Nah you are good. The hall was made so that the wooden furnitures burn when you apply fire on them.
It is for anincoming bossfightbut you can have fun by burning it firsthand.
It will become normal again when you touch a bonfire.
>>335664652
I didn't find the Catacombs. Cathedral or Irithyll to be any more compelling. I'll probably finish, but I've never been this close to dropping a Souls game.
>>335663909
>this quality post
epic xDDD
>>335664101
I enjoy the game as well, and would like to replay to get the different endings. But I already stated in my original post why I wouldnt care to do more playthroughs.
>>335658882
Sleep tight Crabbers!
>>335664840
Oh well, I personally find Irithyll dungeon, Archdragon peak and Lothric grand archive to be pretty nice.
>>335664580
Holy christ I thought this was /v/? Are you telling me nobody know how this game actually works? Nobody here knows the answer to this? What has this place turned into?
>>335664580
Endurance = Stamina = More rolling/attacking/running before depletion.
Vitality = Carry Weight = Heavier armor without fucking up your roll so you can play Fashion Souls/Use big weapons. But know this that even with tons of points put into Vit while wearing Havel's and FAP ring you still won't be able to wear a full set of heavy armor without fat rolling regardless of weapon. I'm convinced that even with the maximum possible carry weight that you will still fat roll in Havel's.
>>335658818
>>335665029
Well it is understandable because Havel is fucking broken so it should have some sort of trade-off to it.
>>335664580
You can go up to <70% load while still having a very decent roll. If you kill stray demon you can also craft havels ring. If you beat the two crocodiles you could also get the ring of favor, though it's effect on load is pretty small
>>335664580
>Vitality increases your carrying cap and does help you roll better with more armor
You are wrong in this. The cap for fast rolling and fat rolling is 70% weight total. Anything above 70% even if it is 70.01% makes you fat roll. Vitality increases your carry limit, essentially making it so that it takes more weight to hit 70%. There is a ring in the game called Havel's ring which is dropped from a boss which has the effect of increasing your weight limit by 15% meaning you can carry 15% more weight before hitting 70%.
>I've heard people say they stop lving vitality at 20
You can stop at any point pham. More vitality means you can carry more weight which means you can wear heavier armors which reduces damage you take even more. Pair that up with heavy tower shield and you got what we call a "tank". To add, equiping weapons in your open hand slots increases your carry weight even if you don't use that weapon. I carry my main weapon, a torch and a pyromancy effigy on my right hand.
>but I've also hear from tons of people that stamina does the same thing
They are wrong.
>but i can't confirm it and like I said in almost 30 vitality now and still candle even wear lorthric armor
Bullshit. Post pics baguette. I'm at 14 vitality and I can wear 3 pieces of Lothric armor before going over into fat rolling territory.
>>335665029
What I'm asking is does your stamina lv let you get closer to your max carry without fat rolling? Because I'm like 9-12 points below my max and I still fat roll and that's what I'm hearing.
>>335659035
Probably not as long as you didn't cheat. But it was no problem for me starting over since the knowledge I gained from my 1st run basically cut my time in half second run.
>>335658818
I've put about 80 hours into it so far. Took about 4 hours to finish the third play through because I wanted to see how fast I could do it. NG+ is actually easier but sure I think the game has replayability so not sure where you're going with that.
>>335664840
I enjoyed the Cathedral up until the Deacons. The knights and the bleed effects and the giants and all the ambushes got me excited for a painfully boring boss fight. Come on, Fromsoft, you're better than that.
I've got 40 hours on my game and I'm about 80% of the way through, trying to beat this Nameless King fuck.
If you beat it in 25 hours you are basically rushing through and not really exploring or enjoying the world.
Even still, I would argue that 25 hours is a pretty solid game length.
The only thing that bother me is that 99% of items I spent my time to collect turn out to be useless.
>>335663131
>>335660387
It's not even that bad. As usual with /v/ there's no middleground and yet I'm sure many of you still sunk hours into such a godawful terrible game.
>>335665242
No. the game shows you which stats get raised when you level your endurance. It only raises stamina and some resistances.
Anyone done an SL1 run yet?
I've beaten it twice, once with an ultra greatsword and once with a straightsword.
I want to do an SL1 then invade low level dudes wearing full Champ Gundyr set.
>>335659874
It took me 50 hours as well and I only got stuck twice. You probably dicked around and explored like me.
>>335665029
Continuing off this: The max possible is 175.5 carry weight (allegedly). 99 Vit plus the rings which are +2.
Exile Set: 42.3 ---- 24% of max
Havel Set: 58.9 ---- 34% of max
Smough Set: 62 ---- 35% of max
If we add in the heaviest of weapon and shield, Fume's and Havel's shield (25 and 28 weight) you can achieve 54%, 63%, and 65% respectively.
So you can wield a greatshield and a heavy 2hander and maintain normal rolling. That is if you want to invest 80+ points into Vit. But none of this matters cause poise doesn't fucking exist.
I think these are something we can agree in DaS 3:
Worst levels:
Swamp, Smouldering lake
Best levels:
Archdragon peak, Irithyll dungeon
Worst bosses:
Deacons, Wyvern
Best bosses:
Nameless king, soul of cinder, abyss watcher
Worst enemy:
Chain double axe snake on archdragon peak, jailer
Best enemy:
Lightning dogs, Gargoyles
>>335666149
>Best levels:
>Archdragon peak, Irithyll dungeon
If you mean most annoying by best, sure.
I have 50 Hours of DS3 and I'm currently at Lothric Castle, But really 30 hours was sitting at pontiff's waiting for Blademoon and only 20 was actual gameplay. The games far shorter than the others people saying otherwise are lying to themselves
>>335666149
Literally what
Your worsts are fine but your bests are retarded
Best levels: Irithyll, Lothric Castle
Best bosses: Nameless, Champ Gundyr, Pontiff
>>335666134
>But none of this matters cause poise doesn't fucking exist.
>Put all points into vitality
>Wear the heaviest and strongest armor in the game
>Some naked faggot with an estoc pokes you to death and there is nothing you can do about it
Heavy big weapons got fucked over in 3 hard. First, cause straight swords do as much damage as large weapons. Second cause there is no poise so any cough knocks you out of attack animation. Third, the strength scaling get diminishing returns in the first play through if you picked it as your main source of damage, used to be you needed to be in NG++ before hitting diminishing returns. Fourth, damage is a much smaller in general compared to past games, you no longer hit for as much as you used to.
>>335666149
Why isn't Consumed King's Garden in the worst there? Unless you enjoy getting fucked by toxic swamps and buttfucked by snake monsters.
>One of the only memorable areas was Irithyll
Why were most areas so lame? If it's not a generic, lifeless brown pile of destroyed shit, then it's a swamp. Both with copy and pasted enemies throughout the area.
Like they just shoved the Irithyll entrance view in your face to make you appreciate the area even more after having to go through that lazy as fuck area and boss which is just a *insert typical skeleton filled deathtrap catacomb no.5467*.
>Hey guiz! Look at dis realy kool snow area! It took a lot of effortz and our designers did a really good job with teh scenery, don't ya think? It really stands out from that garbage-tier catacomb you just crawled out of, huh?
>By the way, this is one of our only good areas in the game, then it's back to shitty dungeon-like areas and destroyed rubble, so you better appreciate it, you fuck.
Not necessarily complaining about Irithyll, but a few more areas on par with that would have been nice.
>>335666104
It took me 33 hours, and that's with exploring every where, finding all bin fires and bosses, and doing PVP. You definitely just suck.
>>335666970
>Why isn't Consumed King's Garden in the worst there? Unless you enjoy getting fucked by toxic swamps and buttfucked by snake monsters.
I died so many times there. I even told myself I would use something other than the dark sword for that area. But then when those cathedral knights and those dark snake undead were around, I got fed up, put on my dark sword with a chaos orb on the side and breezed to it.
I hate the dark sword for being too fucking good, that it makes everything else a slog to play with. It has range, high attack, a distance poke so you always land hits right after dodging AND hits sanic fast. The last part is super important. Faster hits means easier stun locks on enemies, faster recovery to dodge away from harm and it create this mechanical dead zone where everything that is in front of you will get hurt, a wall of pain, if you will.
>>335658882
Keep on following, crab.
>>335666945
you can still out-poke an estoc with an ultra greatsword once you get a feel for range and spacing. otherwise I agree with you, what's the fucking point of even having poise in this game?
>>335666945
I've not started NG+ on any character yet (too busy trying new builds) but heavy weapons can cleave a group of enemies in one hit on NG and hyper armor does exist to help with that. Enemies that don't die in one shot are usually stunned and open to an immediate followup.
However, if you get invaded with no phantom help, god help you with that if they can actually parry. So I will say for now that 2handers are okay when it's PvE but royally fucked on PvP unless you can hyper armor through r1 spamming estocs.
>>335658882
KEEP ON FOLLOWING, CRAB.
>>335667841
Poise does actually exist in the game and functions similar to DS1. However, From literally has it disabled for players and can be re-enabled with file editing but enjoy the ban if you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldIxzYQ7nIw
>>335663070
>new enemy placement
But there is none, all enemies are exactly the same as in NG, only new placement in NG+ are lootable objects and all of those are just souls.
I spent a good 70 hours my first playthrough, but I make sure I get everything and find all the secrets, excluding maxing covenants which I usually save for NG+.
The game also has a shitload of replay value, possibly the most in the series.
>>335668371
Also a shitload of +1 and +2 rings. Which is better than DeS and DkS1, which did absolutely nothing different in NG+ whatsoever.
It gets boring quickly
I'm at like 30 hours and only just beat yhorm
>>335662419
Archdragon Peak was just Dragon Aerie again.
>>335658818
>Invade into world
>Actually be nice to host
>Even try to help them out
>Show constantly I want no trouble
>Don't attack when host is mobbed
>Still get ganked
>Still ganks use their "I WON" emotes
I just want to be a faggot that spams emotes all day, christ.
>>335660387
Git gud
>>335658882
Can someone explain this to someone who doesn't have the game yet?
>>335666970
It's reasonably short, has a cool (albeit easy) boss, and the visuals are pretty cool. The toxic swamp also didn't bother me since it's so minor and easy to get around. Snake enemies can be forced to kill each other with alluring skulls which is hilarious and makes the area better.
It's definitely not a highlight but I can't think of anything that makes it bad.
>>335666975
DkS3 area design was my favorite in the series. It's the first Soulsborne entry that doesn't have a single area I disliked/was annoyed by, and each area (bar a small few) felt bigger, more well constructed, and was a lot more fun to explore than half the areas in any previous game. But that's just me.
Why aren't we trying to fix this as a community? Even the fucking wiki is throwing events.
>>335668761
If you get ganked, lure them into monsters. It's only fair to equal out the odds.
People who use giant's seeds are rare
>>335660387
Everything in the DkS2 DLC is fucking fantastic outside of the extra 'challenge' areas in each one, namely Frigid Outskirts, and those are very small sections of each add on that can be played without even owning the DLC.
>>335668806
Dark Souls 3 area design is fine but the world design is linear shit that ruins replayability.
>>335658882
KEEP ON FOLLOWING, CRAB
>>335668878
I seriously need my Darkmoons to work properly. Why is there no Blue Eye Orb? Fuck even cracked ones. Why is it EXACTLY the same as the Blue Sentinels? Why do they both require the shittiest covenant in the game that has literally zero incentive to be part of? Why are their fucking rewards the same? Why is the queuing system so fucked?
This one physically hurt me. Darkmoons were my life in DkS1.
>>335658818
>>takes only 25 hours to beat
Wut? 25 hours here and I'm still at Farron, heading to Cathedral right now. Am I already near the end or gamers these days are superficial mongs who just rush everything?
>>335668798
There's a lone crab in the Catacombs that doesn't have any reason to be there. It's not for a challenge either, because the lesser crabs get one shotted.
>>335658818
>only 25 hours
If you have ADHD and rub through the game as quick as possible. I'm 50hrs in and at Archdragon Peak.
>>335669017
It's a bit more linear than the previous games but that didn't bother me too much. It still had occasion branching paths, and letting you go to one of the last areas of the game before the first real boss was cool as shit.
Definitely doesn't hurt replayability for me in the slightest.
>>335669117
>Darkmoons
>working properly
>ever
They're eternally fucked.
>>335669193
It's in the second skeleball. If you wait long enough the ball will shatter and the crab will come out.
I fucking love those little crabs. I will continue defending them as a Watchdog clear until they never fix my fucking Darkmoons.
>>335668978
>Everything in the DkS2 DLC is fucking fantastic
meh
>>335668878
Few people want to waste their covenant on way of blue, almost exclusively a few ganksquads use it.
>>335658882
keep on following, crab
>>335669117
We should como to a consensus of only using Way of Blue while embered
>>335668761
>do something in a game that is intended to give you control over a strong enemy in another player's world to prevent them from reaching a boss
>surprised when you are treated like a strong enemy that's supposed to prevent them from reaching a boss
I bet you think people should bow to invaders too.
>>335669286
At least in DkS1 they technically functioned, and I usually didn't have a problem getting them to work. But this... this is literally nothing. This is being an accessory to the LEAST significant covenant in the game. It's like the Way of Blue is a shitty video game, and we're DLC... and then they released another DLC that is EXACTLY the same fucking thing with a different name.
I fucking hate being DLC.
>>335666149
I genuinely enjoyed the swamp, but smoldering lake is boring. Also the Decons were fun to fight. Easy but fun.
>>335659035
No. Your pirated copy will have a different user ID on the save file and can't be loaded. Personal experience
>>335669419
Well, I had fun fucking around untill it became late night. I don't know what it is, but past midnight people turn into assholes. Can't even host a fight club when it's past midnight. I got tired of this and finally started fighting back. Got me muh 10 tounges already.
>>335658818
I completed it in 9 hours mate.
>>335668908
Yeah I know, just wanted to fuck around is all. Had some guys with end game stuff use a seed on me at the wall. I don't see the point, but hey their personal waste of item.
>>335669417
ALL we need is a damn Blue Eye Orb. Give Darkmoons a Blue Eye Orb, and make Blue Sentinels exclusively summon to help against invaders. Then get rid of fucking Way of Blue and give everyone access to a consumable item that allows Blue Sentinels to summon in their world but only while an invader is there. Or just make it a settings open for "Invasion Assist On/Off."
Fixing this shit is not hard.
>>335658818
Took me 50.
Stop running away from shit and not exploring.
>>335658882
Keep on following, Crab.
>>335666149
>Chain double axe snake on archdragon peak
These trigger me, they are probably the toughst enemies to fight in the entire game. What makes them even wirse is their axe glitches through walls, so you can't even hide behind a wall to block them.
>tfw fucking around summoning dark spirits in lothric to 1v1 each other until the last two stand
the weapon diversity makes this pvp so much fun. also that there's much less shitty lag than in previous souls games.
>attn: ps4 fags
Did the server issue get fixed? Can I install the update now without it fucking my game?
All the threads are gone so I can only hope
>>335668673
Except it is nothing like it at all
>>335669724
Are you expecting the devs to care? If we don't do it ourselves, everyone is fucked for at least a couple of months
>>335659087
>linear souls
>in DaS1 you are railroaded to O&S during the first half
>post O&S you can choose from 4 different paths in whatever order you want
>first half of DaS is praised, second half is considered shit
Nobody ever makes sense, nostalgia goggles literally too thick to find logic behind.
>>335661078
>Why is this souls game like previous souls games
How are you fags beating it to so quickly? I did absolutely no online, beat all the bosses in under 5 tries, except for gundyr and the crips, a lot of them being 1 try, and still beat the game at about 45 hours. Are you just not exploring and running through everything? I mean this is worse than the fags who say they beat Bloodborne in under 20 hours.
>>335669136
Don't worry, you're not even at the half of the mandatory content to see the ending credits rolling.
>>335663267
Darkroot garden IS Farron's Keep.
>beat the game
>restored save before final boss
>no motivation to do anything else
There's literally no reason to do anything, instead of making NG+ actually worth playing with new stuff they just added shitty +rings.
>>335670391
The people who beat the game so fast are the ones who miss tons of items because they don't explore and probably use summons throughout every single fucking area.
You can really tell.
>>335670474
You're barely even starting the game if you're still in farron.
>>335670391
Bloodborne is beatable in an hour and 20 minutes if you skip everything optional.
As far as dark souls 3 though, there's a chance some people missed a lot of content. I completely missed the burnt ash lake area and only found them at the end before I went to ng+.
>>335666149
Smouldering Lake was like a fixed version of Lost Izalith and Stonefang. I'm not a big fan of fire themes, but this is one I legitimately enjoyed.
Farron Keep was like a fixed version of Valley of Defilement and Blighttown. Far less bullshit, and I thought it was a lot more interesting. A bit bland in the actual layout, but only because it's literally just a big circle like Valley was.
Deacons were like a fixed Rat Vanguard. Same thing, but this time we got several different kinds of mobs, you had to switch targets periodically, and if you're not aggressive enough they'll insta-kill you with curse. For an early boss it was fun. Just... don't fight it after Farron Keep or you'll be so OP they won't get to do anything.
For my actual breakdown...
>Worst Level
Untended Graves, only because it's LITERALLY a repeat. Still has a great boss, at least.
>Best Levels
Irithyll, Lothric Castle, Grand Archives, Irithyll Dungeon
>Worst Bosses
Wyvern, it's the only boss I consider bad. Vordt is probably the most 'meh', and Yhorm would be bad if the Stormruler gimmick wasn't fun and the boss room wasn't so epic.
>Best Bosses
Nameless King, Twin Princes, Soul of Cinder, Dragonslayer Armor, Aldrich
>Worst Enemy
Chain-Axe Snakemen... especially since they don't even fucking drop the damn thing. Jailers suck ass until you realize their life drain cannot kill you.
>Best Enemies
I'm a huge fan of crustaceans, so I have to give it to the giant crabs. They're a hell of a lot of fun to fight, though, and them LITERALLY just being a giant crab is hilarious. And since they're assholes who kill the little crabs, I don't feel bad for murdering the shit out of them.
>>335670627
There's no need to restore the save, they give you a option post-credits
>>335670627
Its called depression m8. Why do you NEED reasons to do something. Make them yourself.
Even though i've 100%'d the game i'm still going through on a new character so i can experience lower level pvp and try a different way of playing as i go through. It's called trying to have fun.
>>335669636
I completed it in 5, git gud.
>>335669747
>glitches
>acting like from didnt fully intend on this
I think Dark Souls 3 is a good game, and with some balance patches and dlc it'll be even better
It's just that I'm tired of the formula
After multiple playthroughs of demons souls, dark souls, dark souls 2, Bloodborne... it's a good thing Miyazaki is focusing on something new.
Also Bloodborne really pushed the gameplay forward with its speed, trick weapons, and rallying. DaS3 is just more of the same but now with semi-useless weapon arts.
Usually when I play a souls game I'm eager to make a new character after beating the game, but I have zero desire to start a new character on this one which is a shame.
>>335668361
If from made it so heavy armors had str requirement equivalent to the main weapon in the set (ie, havel set would need 45 str to wear in order to gain the full defense+any poise the armor provides), would that fix the issues that plagued dark souls 1 style poise?
Derivative Souls in a nutshell:
Tutorial area - Bland.
Firelink Shrine - Direct Dark 1 reference.
High wall - Undead Burgh again.
Undead Settlement - Feels like Bloodborne leftovers.
Road of sacrifices - A bland road and a crab marsh with no surprises.
Cathedral - A new place with unique mechanics (maggots / running past giant) it's a genuinely good area.
Farron Keep - Valley of Defilement 4.0 someone smack Miyazaki already.
Catacombs of Carthus - Dark Souls 1 catacombs again now with Sens fortress boulder and dart traps.
Smouldering Lake - Ash lake and Lost Izalith smashed together just replace the hydra shooting at you with a ballista.
Irathyll - Welcome to Yharnam enjoy your beast on the bridge if you didn't get the reference.
Dungeon - Tower of Latria again.
Profaned Capital - A Dark Souls 2 tier area, it's linear path to the boss unless you want to dive in another toxic swamp.
Anor Londo - Direct reference complete with archers.
Lothric Castle - It's another castle and there's no new enemies or mechanics here at all.
Garden - It's an alleyway with some toxin pools and recycled enemies, the second Dark Souls 2 tier area.
Untended Graves - Tutorial and firelink copy paste From just changed the ambient lighting.
Archives - It has unique mechanics, a boss that flees from you through the level and new enemies. The second good new area.
Archdragon Peak - Dragon Aerie again. Boss arena is cool though.
Kiln of the first flame - Same name but none of the same visual majesty, it's just firelink again leading up a hill to the boss.
These areas might have better level design than old games but it won't make them feel any less played out.
>>335670801
>I need to force new ways to enjoy the game
>That proves its good
Derusionar fanuhboyuh
>>335670835
I'm convinced I'm just not capable of getting tired of it. I 100% see where you're coming from and I get it, I just... don't think it's capable of applying to me. I've enjoyed DkS3 more than any game in the series, and it's genuinely motivated me the most of any to play it multiple times.
But yeah, it could definitely benefit from those patches and the DLC. Shame you feel like you're getting burnt out, though.
>>335658818
>>335662819
What are you on about? It is the first game in which choosing a 2 handed weapon instead of a straight sword matters a lot in the PvE game. Also it is the first Souls in which magic isn't overpowered until late areas.
If you look at the polls about the difficulty on bosses, people didn't encounter the same problems depending on the build. The replay value is actually huge. Just choosing to do early Lothric instead of post catacombs can change completely how you playthrough will look.
I bet you haven't tried other playthroughs yet, dealing with the casting time for sorcerers is a chore, but that's what makes it even more enjoyable. It has nothing in common with a melee build.
>>335658818
Finished the game in about 25 hours, but have Nameless and champ yet to beat
I'm pretty satisfied, probably gonna buy the game for another playthrough and pvp faggotry if I can find it for ~30€
>>335662819
It has the most variety in builds of any game in the series by miles. They just require more focus and kick in particularly well late game/NG+. Hell, even pure bow builds are viable in this.
>>335670759
I could go for another ending.
>>335670801
But that's boring. Maybe I'll try some hacking :(
>>335666149
>Worst levels
Smoldering Lake/Demon's Ruins, Consumed King's Garden, profaned capital
>Best levels
Grand Archives, Lothric Castle, Irythill of the Boreal Valley, Irythill Dungeon
>Worst Bosses
Yhorm, Vordt, Crystal Sage
>Best Bosses
NK, Lothric and Lorian, Pontiff Sulyvahn, SoC, The Champ
>Worst Enemy
Greatsword Cathedral Knights, Greataxe Manserpents, Humanity monsters, the skinny black demons
>Best Enemy
Pontiff Knights, Giant Crabs, Lothric Knights, Giant dragon looking guys at the swamp
>>335670720
>You're barely even starting the game if you're still in farron.
I suppose he meant he had beaten Watchers and Maybe reached Yrithill before knowing of the cathedrale existence.
>>335671372
>Greatsword Cathedral Knights,
>Worst enemy
what?
>>335670835
Same. I mean I'm enjoying the game a lot but I'm glad this is the last entry in the series. I hope hey either focus on BB or make a full on character action game.
That being said, people need to stop dick riding DaS1. Like half the bosses and areas in DaS1 are kinda ass. The Decons are pretty much more fun than a solid third of the bosses from 1.
>>335671372
For the life of me I can't think of what you mean by the humanity monsters or the skinny black demons... I am aware I'll probably kick myself when I figure it out.
>>335671372
>giant dragon swamp guys
>best
I've never fought one outside of deep water, so that might be why I don't like them.
>>335671464
The demons with the satur bodies and the snake like faces. I'm assuming he means the unarmed standing ones.
>>335671438
>infinite poise
>infinite Stamina
>2 shot you
>tracking like a motherfucker
>a shitton of life
I hated them. May be because I was farming them for their sword and armor for a long time.
>>335671464the skin
the corrupted enemies with the red eyes. The ones that look like Iudex Gundyr's second phase. The skinny black demons are the ones that are in the demon ruins, I'm talking about the ones that keep jumping like motherfuckers and keep grabbing you.
>>335671439
From could keep making Souls games if they just make Tropical Souls, desert souls etc. If they just stop pushing out castles, swamps, catacombs, dungeons and people will stop feeling lethargic.
>>335671656
They're pretty fun to fight if you lure them to areas where you can move properly, otherwise they are huge pain.
>>335671089
I'm tired of the Dark Souls formula, Bloodborne and even Ni-Oh are still fun.
It's like, I go from having a kirkhammer and tentacle arms to an iron sword again.
I normally roll a sorcerer for my second playthrough, and I tried but it really sucked. It's very slow, damage isn't worth it, and it drains a shitload of stamina for some reason.
I plan to come back for a complete 100% playthrough when magic hopefully gets a buff.
I do gotta give the game props for being pretty solid at launch though. Bloodborne was horrendous at launch.
>>335671674
Oh, the abyss hollows and the goatmen/Ghru. Got'cha.
Yeah, fuck the leaping Ghru. The rest are fine, though. As for the abyss hollows... get two near each other and throw an alluring skull between them. It's hilarious, they kill each other.
>>335671439
Everyone just has nostalgia for Dark Souls because it was their first.
It was my first as well but I know it has its flaws.
>>335658818
I'm at 50 hours on NG. I dunno what are you talking about. Oh right you are shitposting like a faggot you are.
>>335669886
You are dumb as fuck.
>>335669886
more like once you leave undead asylum you could go straight to quelaag then gargoyles (and at any point in time go fight pinwheel) then to sen's fortress, then to anor londo, then take on the last 4 boss's as you like
Where as Shit souls 3, you literally have no freedom whatsoever
>>335671464
Humanity monsters = the RE6 rat mutation common hollows.
Skinny black demons = Ghru, the satyrs with poison weapons and breath in Farron's and Smouldering.
first playthrough took me 100 hours
>>335671763
> It's very slow, damage isn't worth it, and it drains a shitload of stamina for some reason.
It honestly should have been the case since the first game. Magic was alway OP because you had damage + security distance. There was absolutely no point to play magic if not to roll on the game. Now sorcerers also have to get good to reach the end.
It is as simple as that.
>>335671763
I think I agree with what >>335671712 said... a big part of the burn out is honestly the reuse of the same kind of themes over and over. I'd personally never tire of it, but it would be nice if they'd overhaul everything.
I actually want to see a more lighthearted game that plays similar to Dark Souls but more... I dunno... playful? Something comic book-like or even Zelda-ish. Or hell, go full Sci-Fi. I love the Souls basic formula, but they could use more theme branching... and not EVERYTHING needs to be depressing and hopeless.
>>335665216
Which armor is that anon-kun?
>>335671892
>you could
But not on a first playthrough unless you took the master key. There are actually several branching paths in Dark Souls 3 and depending on if you want to beat Lothric Castle early, the game can be pretty challenging on a NG.
>>335672008
I haven't played a magic build yet, but I think they went too far in some places. For example I'm rolling a faith build, at 25 faith, and a +5 chime with A scaling. My lightning spear, that takes 25% of my mana, only does about 90 damage, takes half my stamina, and leaves me wide open. What the fuck where they thinking? A fucking unupgraded light crossbow with wood bolts does more damage, and it's the same thing essentially. Hell it might be even better, since it doesn't take mp, and I can aim it.
>>335672186
Unupgraded wood bolts do around 62 damage for me. But yeah, magic is fucked in this game. Miracles especially so. Only decent magic is fire, and even then it takes alot of investment.
>>335672186
>>335672290
Miracles working as intended. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitZ4JYZG6g
>>335672186
I've heard Faith builds are currently fucked for offensive damage. I've recently started a Pyromancer and with a +4 Pyromancy Flame and like 18INT my Fire Orb does well over 200 damage to most enemies and only takes about a tenth of my focus.
Sorcery seems to be powerful based on what I've seen from other players, but I haven't done it myself yet.
>>335671674
The snake headed guys are pissweak against fire. Stunlocks them every time.
>>335672182
>But not on a first playthrough
Which has nothing to do with the original point put forth.
>>335672182
After you beat dragonslayer armour you can't get into the archives and you can go through the garden to not firelink but that's a very short journey.
Otherwise the only time you can branch off is deciding to do cathedral before farron keep or after the catacombs and whether you bother to go into the smouldering lake or not.
>83 hours
>just beat aldritch
Uh... yeah... game is so easy... h-heh...
>>335672562
>i'm legitimately retarded
>>335672503
>Settlement or Lothric Castle
>Cathedral or Keep
>Lake or Irithyll
>Dungeon or Anor Londo
It's constant two way paths, it just never really diverges more than a single split at any one time.
>>335672620
>helping friends
>invading
>restarting chars
I know i should just beat it already and then get to the other things but wheres the fun in that
>>335672503
There's also whether you want to beat Yorhm or Pontiff/Aldrich first. And if you have already done Consumed garden you can go to dragon's peak when you reach Yrithill Dungeon. That's what I've done on my first playthrough (found the path legit after a friend hinted that there was an optional area somewhere around the dungeon and the profaned capitale. )
>>335672408
They only need balancing in the scaling part. Like at 50-60 faith, lightning spears start doing 800 damage, great lightning spears do like 1000, and sunlight spear does like 1500. The thing is that they scale like SHIT up until 40 faith, then decent for 40-50, and fucking amazing for 50-60. Like just rework how scaling works, not just increase the damage.
Pyro is decent I think. at 21 int and 15 fa, my +8 flame was doing 400-500 with great chaos orb.
>>335672747
So far Pyro honestly feels a bit OP, but I've only recently gotten to the "Cathedral or Catacombs" branch on that character.
Took me 48 hours to beat.
Offline, so that includes afk-to-shit time.
Speedruns are 70 minutes. So Im hoping I can get the rest of the rings/spells/gestures in a short period of time.
>>335671892
>Dark Souls 2
>from the get go you have 3 paths that you can go on
>the moment you beat the Dragonrider you get two additional road splits
>Dark Souls 3
>linear as fuck
>>335672348
>moaning about a miricale that knocks people flat in their back doing low damage
If it had high damage and the abillity to knock people flat on their back it would be OP.
>>335658882
Keppe on foloeoing, crab
>>335672881
The only thing that annoyed me about DS2 was that there was no way to know that Licia was the specific NPC who unlocked the path to Huntsman's Copse. And you had to exhaust her dialogue too, when most people would see that she sold miracles and promptly fuck off.
Other than that I really enjoyed the game progression, aside from maybe Giant's Memories.
>tfw people said that its better than DS2
Fucking fell for your lies, this shit is terrible and I hate you assholes for the rest of my miserable life.
>>335673418
0/10 here is your (you)
It took me 24 hours to beat every boss blind, no summons and never used an ember. The game was piss easy save for Nameless King stage 1.
>>335665216
>Actual, physical motion blur on a moving character
>jaggies
>great loss of detail at distance
Why is this accepted in 2016 again?
>>335673394
>aside from maybe Giant's Memories
I really liked those t b h.
>>335670720
>Farron
That's at least 25% nigga. This is not a long game at all.
>>335658882
Coupon flowing, crap.
>>335658818
but im at 115 hours on my third playthrough
>>335673509
This game actually does have a lot of jaggerinos, with anti aliasing on.
Honestly, I would like Yhorm the Giant to penetrate my boipussy.
>>335673418
I never said that.
I tried to warn you.
You should see some of the (you)s i've gotten for speaking the truth about Dark Souls III and it's problems.
>game refuses to stay connected to steam servers for more than 2 hours at a time
>occasionally ALT-F4 when my shitty Steam controller fucks up because it's garbage (I'm playing single player with no phantoms so who the fuck cares)
>apparently FROM cares and now I'm softbanned
>way of the white circlet doesn't work
>won't be able to engage in pvp or co-op once I'm done my solo playthrough
I thought the B-team wasn't involved in this one?
>>335673736
But anon, this is B-Team.
A-Team are the people who made the wonderful Dark Souls 2.
>>335673686
I just want to penetrate Lothric's boipussy.
>>335673736
We C-team now.
Am I a fucking retard or are greatswords horrible in DaS? I wanted to use a Bastard Sword since it's been my go to weapon since DeS but it does like 12 more damage than Astora's Straight Sword at the same upgrade level. What's the fucking point then?
I don't know what it is about DS3, but I just don't have that same magical feeling I had with 1 and even parts of 2. It looks the best out of them, technically plays and feels better than both, and had some cool areas, but it feels hollow to me for some reason. Am I just tired of the formula? This is the first game in the series that I really have no real drive to keep playing after beating, when I played 1 and 2 both about 3x each upon release. On a happier note, Lorian's set is probably my favorite from all 3 games. Fashion in this one is nice.
>>335673736
May I ask why you would spend money on the Stmeme controller?
>>335658818
Can somebody here post the charm from the english guide? Its says something about the sunlight warrior being the lost son of Gwyn and he got forgotten.
>>335673958
Haven't tried normal Greats but Ultra Greatswords are fucking monsters.
>>335673564
Yeah, the areas were cool, but I more meant that you get the Ashen Mist Heart, which tells you to 'enter memories' or some shit, and gives you no indication that the trees were what you are looking for, considering that you could easily miss one, another wasn't available until you had the King's Ring, and the last was after you beat the Pursuer, which was an optional boss since you can get to the Bastille through No-Mans Wharf.
>>335658818
That's pretty good considering it takes 25 hours to replay DS1 and DS2 when they have all their DLCs included
>>335673736
>I thought the B-team wasn't involved in this one?
Let me show you what *B* - team did in 2 and you tell me if you still think that they were the people who were involved in the making of 3.
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/game-mechanics
Before you speak i'll of *B* - team again i would suggest that you read trough this whole wiki.
>>335673978
My last xbox controller's thumbstick decided it didn't want to click back into the center one day and is fine with being a loose slut, so I decided not to give my money to those turbofaggot jews again in favor of trying out a controller from a different company of turbofaggot jews
>>335671030
>DaS3 firelink is a reference to DaS1 firelink despite having a layout that's almost identical to DeS' Nexus
>>335673958
>What's the fucking point then?
Just go back and play DaS2 if you want viable weapon choices.
>>335674072
>Took 80 hours first playthrough of 1
>100ish first playthrough of 2
>40 and change for 3
Why is this game so short? I feel like they made the levels gigantic and labyrinthine to compensate for the small amount of them.
>losing 240k souls on archdragon peak because that enemy with the axe on a chain hit me from a mile away THROUGH a wall (like legit, he wasn't close to me, he did that attack that hits you from gigantic range
FUCK YOU FROM
AND I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THE NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE DIED BECAUSE OF YOUR FUCKING RETARDED ACTION QUEUE SYSTEM
FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME
>>335666149
>Best levels:
>Archdragon peak,
Yeah, if you love Dark Souls 2.
The area is pure bullshit
>>335674136
I can start calling the dark souls 3 hub a knock off of both Demons and Dark but it won't make the game feel any less derivative.
Takes less than 25 hours once you know the bosses and know where to go. Just went from Gundyr to Dancer then killed the princes and back to Vort in under 4 hours.
>>335674239
240k souls is nothing is a game with no soul memory and ever re-spawning enemies.Now if you lost that amount of souls early on in DS2 i'd point and laugh at you while you get invaded by people with better stats and better gear.
>>335674298
>The area is pure bullshit
Yeah if you are a scrub. It is the hardest and most rewarding area in the game.
>>335674327
You can kill every boss in 2 hours if you know where to go.
>>335674191
>I feel like they made the levels gigantic and labyrinthine to compensate for the small amount of them.
Yes, yes they did. They said that long before the game was even released.
>>335668908
>some faggot is ganking
>won't follow me into swamp
>use a branch to mimic a wooden grave marker
>go take a shit
>come back 36 minutes later
>he used a seed of giants
>run around aggroing treegoatmen
>have 3 of them
>using daggers to dash through swamp
>run up to the camp fire
>trees quickly murder the fuck out of his help
>turns out he hacked
>turns out his HP is in the thousands and my +4 large club does 34 damage to him
>manages to hit in with a Dark Sword
I still think I won since he literally sat there for almost a fucking hour.
>tfw you get the ashes from Archdragon Peak and the handmaiden sells you all items needed for weapon upgrading
I upgraded all the meme weapons to +10 :^)
>>335674417
Are you implying this is exclusive to DS3?
>>335663332
>lmao give me one reason to play the game
>its fun, has good gameplay and multiple endings?
>haha i can just watch those on youtube gimme one reason to play
>>335674298
What, outside of the chainaxe snakes, is bullshit about it?
>>335674415
What's harder about this area than any other area? I felt it was on the easy side besides Nameless King himself.
test
>>335674434
Sauce me goyim
>>335674668
You test was successful, you are indeed a faggot.
>"Ornstein's Armour"
>Shield
what the fuck man
>>335674826
That's not Ornstein you homosex. You find Ornstein's armor elsewhere.
>>335674826
It's an umbrella
>>335673509
0/10 too many jaggies, unplayable trash.
>>335674914
>>335674826
>fun fact
The axe looks like it's made from the remains of Ornstein's spear.
>>335674951
ella ella eh
>>335674826
It's been reforged and pieces taken out.
>>335674695
all from the summer of last year
http://gematsu.com/2015/06/dark-souls-iii-fewer-maps-larger-scale
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/e3/news/a653778/dark-souls-3-to-have-fewer-but-bigger-and-more-complex-areas-says-director-hidetaka-miyazaki/
http://www.pcgamesn.com/dark-souls-3/dark-souls-3-will-play-a-little-faster-have-fewer-but-bigger-maps
>>335675027
You find his spear in Archdragon Peak though, or at least a copy of it.
Where is Ornstein armor?
>>335675104
You find his armor, too.
>>335675149
Go to the Archdragon Peak and kill the Nameless King. Then check the area you spawn at afterwards for the armor.
