Mine...
>Easiest to Hardest
1. Ancient Wyvern
2. Yhorm (w/Stormruler)
3. Vordt
4. Iudex Gundyr
5. Curse Rotted Greatwood
6. Deacons of the Deep
7. Oceiros
8. Crystal Sage
9. King of the Storm
10. Dragonslayer Armor
11. High Lord Wolnir
12. Abyss Watchers
13. Yhorm (w/o Stormruler)
14. Old Demon King
15. Lorian & Lothric
16. Dancer
17. Aldrich
18. Pontiff Sulyvahn
19. Soul of Cinder
20. Nameless King
21. Champion Gundyr
>Least Fave to Favorite
1. Ancient Wyvern
2. Vordt
3. Yhorm
4. Curse Rotted Greatwood
5. High Lord Wolnir
6. Deacons of the Deep
7. Iudex Gundyr
8. Pontiff Sulyvahn
9. King of the Storm
10. Crystal Sage
11. Oceiros
12. Dancer
13. Abyss Watchers
14. Champion Gundyr
15. Old Demon King
16. Aldrich
17. Dragonslayer Armor
18. Soul of Cinder
19. Lorian & Lothric
20. Nameless King
>>335646332
Easiest was Crystal Sages, hardest was The Nameless King.
Best was Twin Princes, worst was Old Demon King.
>>335647676
>Easiest was Crystal Sages
If you do that boss when you're supposed to (ie. before clearing Farron Keep, it puts up a decent fight and can kill you fairly easily.
I don't know what people expect when they do all that other shit before coming back and doing Cathedral of the Deep.
>>335647927
I fought Crystal Sages right after Curserotted Greatwood and beat them on my first try. Maybe the RNGods were kind to me that day, no idea.
>>335648424
I'd say Crystal Sage is like the Pinwheel of DaS III.
Fight it early - Hits like a fucking truck but technically isn't hard to take down
Fight it mid game - How could you even die to this piece of shit?
Crystal sage is easy if you aren't a giant pussy and just sprint attack him constantly, he'l teleport before he even gets a spell off and the sprinting will dodge almost every spell.
>Hear all this big talk about Pontif
>Get to him
>Literally just have to parry him
>Hear all this big shit about Dancer
>Get to him
>Literally just have to know how to roll
>Hear all this shit about Champ Gundyr
>Get to him
>Yet another parry boss.
>Meanwhile the bosses that have bullshit gimmicks have no easy way out option other than phantoms
I'm a little let down with the bosses in DS3
>>335646332
>champion gundyr
>hardest
did people really have that much trouble with him? He was cool but he certainly wasn't hard. I thought nameless king was the most challenging by far.
>>335646332
>tfw you've died to the rat alligator thing in boreal valley more than any boss
>still haven't beaten it
>>335649420
If you mean the one on the bridge, god help you when you try fighting two of them at once later on.
I hate sounding like an elitist faggot but Dark Souls 3 felt very easy compared to other souls games. Idk if I got gud or if it is just really easy.
The Orphan of Kos and Ludwig from Bloodborne gave me 10x more trouble than anything in Das3
>>335646332
>GOAT Tier
Pontiff Suhlyvan
Champion Gundyr
Nameless King
Lothric and Lorian
>Great Tier
Abyss Watchers
Aldrich, Devourer of Gods
Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Soul of Cinder
>Good Tier
Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Crystal Sage
Ocerios, the Consumed King
Dragonslayer Armor
>Shit Tier
Iudex Gundyr
Deacons of the Deep
>Dumb Puzzle Tier
Curse Rotted Greatwood
High Lord Wolnir
Yhorm the Giant
Ancient Wyvren
>>335646332
wow nice fucking spoilers faggot
>>335649420
would you like to know how to cheese it?
how the fuck do you beat the two rat faggots below the secret wall ladder shit
>>335649975
one at a time
>>335649975
Lure the left one with range.
>>335650012
how do you call just one?
>>335649420
>two of them at once
>>335649746
Id like to beat it legitimatelybut tell me anyway
>>335649545
whoops>>335650223
>>335646332
>Easiest to Hardest
1.Everyone else
2. Nameless King
3. Soul of Cinder
>>335650223
If you go back behind the arc before the bridge, he can't follow you and despawn. he'll respawn once you get back on the bridge but keep the damage you've done to him. he's also unable to move during the despawning animation
>>335650434
that sounds way better than trying to fight him in the shitty lake down below, thanks anon
Nameless king was really the only bad one. The actual 1v1 portion was okay, the bit where you have to fight the camera against the dragon was really shitty. Maybe the shittiest in the series.
If you have to stop using the lock mechanic because the boss wasn't designed well around it, it's a poorly designed boss. It would be easy to rectify, too.
Maybe the first thing I noticed about the game was how shitty the camera functions with larger enemies, a staple of the series. Did the guy who designed it and made it work for the last 5 games quit?
Are there any rings like in DS2 that give you boss aggro?
Hosts are shit.
>>335650701
I had almost no camera problems with King of the Storm while locked on once I realized staying in front of the dragon head is how you're meant to fight it and staying under it is suicide.
>>335650971
Yes, but you have to kill an NPC unless you want to wait until the end of the game. Killing that NPC hurts nothing except possibly dialogue, and I've heard he might respawn.
>>335651098
>Yes, but you have to kill an NPC unless you want to wait until the end of the game. Killing that NPC hurts nothing except possibly dialogue, and I've heard he might respawn.
Just tell me who you fuck
>>335651098
My real issue for that fight is that there are two lock on points, and if you lock onto the dragon your character will turn around and present his ass to the king for a free hit if the dragon charges you.
If you lock onto the king himself you won't be able to see shit when they get in close. If they close in on you the camera gets fucked up, period. If you approach the boss the camera is well and away and you can see fine.
>>335651321
Andre
>>335651321Ludleth
>>335649663
This guy gets it
Though I'd put SoC in the GOAT Tier 2bh family
>>335649663
>GOAT Tier
Nameless King
Soul of Cinder
Champion Gundyr
Pontiff Suhlyvan
Lothric and Lorian
>Great Tier
Abyss Watchers
Aldrich, Devourer of Gods
Yhorm the Giant (I don't care about the puzzle. He was a good fight)
Ocerios, the Consumed King (only because of how he becomes crazy)
>Good Tier
Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Crystal Sage
Dragonslayer Armor
>Shit Tier
Deacons of the Deep
Curse Rotted Greatwood
High Lord Wolnir
Ancient Wyvren
>Can't be ranked because it's an introduction
>Iudex Gundyr
Hardest to Easiest
Nameless King
Lothric & Lorian
King of Storms
Chamption Gundyr
Soul of Cinder
Dancer
Dragonslayer Armour
Yhom
Aldrich
Oceiros
Pontiff Sulyvhan
Old Demon King
Wolnir
Crystal Sage
Deacons of the Deep
Abyss Watchers
Vordt
Ludex Gundyr
Ancient Wyvern isnt really much of a boss.
>>335651970
Lothric and Lorian is the easiest shit in the game. There isn't even a gimmick or trick to their fight. Easy to dodge moves, they sit there waiting to get hit. Repeat.
>>335649663
>>Shit Tier
>Iudex Gundyr
Faggot.
>Nameless king is literally "Wrestle with the camera and pray you have some estus for phase 2", the fight
>Its so damn high on everyones list.
Why?
>>335654583
Because they had no problems with the camers and had estus for phase 2.
>>335651621
>>335649663
I don't really get the hate for the Deacons. They weren't amazing or anything, but they took an old boss concept (Rat Vanguard, Prowling Magus) and actually made it kind of interesting. The true target changes, there's multiple types of mobs instead of literally just one, they can heal themselves if you're careless, they cast an area-wide Curse aura, and they can project almost insta-kill dark bolts that go through objects.
People talk about it like it's just more Rat Vanguard crap, but it's so much better than that. Then again I think most people fight them after the Abyss Watchers, where you can just rip through them in a few seconds and miss out on half their attack variety. I fought them immediately after Crystal Sage.
>>335654031
>he had trouble with the introduction boss
Git gud.
>>335654790
Only reason it is shit tier for me is because I didn't like the fight. I didn't even die to it. It just was not good for me.
>>335654790
The Rat Vangaurd was harder. The rats atleast had a curse attached to them, and moved faster than that of a slime.
Prowling Magus was such a shit boss, that even for a late game boss they dont even drop a soul.
They should have learned noone likes this concept as its far to easy, and this one was poorly designed.
>>335654836
When did we start ranking bosses by difficulty? I beat Iudex on the first try, and he's easily the best tutorial boss in a Souls game to date, faggot.
>>335654730
Good joke
>>335654790
The Greatsword weilding priest outside their fog took me longer to kill the first time I fought them.
Thats why theyre Shit tier for me.
>champion gundyr
>hard
Stick close to him, roll under his attacks, get a swing in.
Don't get impatient.
I beat him first try because he's literally just a faster phase 1 iudex.
Orphan of Kos could solo all the bosses in DS3 at once
>>335654993
>Best Tutorial boss
Vangaurd > Asylum Demon > Gundyr
Half his hit points are gone before his health even shows up if DSIII wasnt your first souls game. It was a shit fight.
>hardest to east based on amount of hours spent
>abyss watchers
>pontiff sulyvahn
>champion gundyr
>dancer
>soul of cinder
>required only a few attempts to learn the patterns
>nameless king
>dragonslayer armor
>lothric brothers
>crystal sage
>oceiros
>aldrich
>vordt
>cakewalk tier
>wyvern
>yhorm
>ludex
>curse rotted greatwood
>deacons
>wolnir
>demon king
I am not even joking, nameless king wasnt that difficult imo
>>335655123
It's the kick and the fact he -always- hits me when I'm on the ground. I know he usually only kicks after his combo, but he frequently opens with it, too, or just throws it into the middle of a combo.
I also make it a rule not to parry. Partially because I suck at it, but even the ones I can consistently parry it just sort of sucks the fun out of the whole thing.
>>335655252
Vanguard is literally just the Asylum Demon but with less attacks. Like... literally. It's also the definition of "strafe behind, hit in the ass."
Gundyr at least changes shit up.
>>335654583
Don't lock on scrub
Why is Pontiff Sulyvahn always bitched about?
He's parryable, gets stunned after a few hits, and his phantom tells you what he's about to do.
>>335655252
Spotted the nostalgiafag.
>Half his hit points are gone before his health even shows up if DSIII wasnt your first souls game.
I don't know what fucking easy mode class you picked, but that's certainly never the case. Asylum Demon is shit. Plunge attack already takes off 2/3 of his health, then you literally stand behind him and mash R1 for the remainder of the fight to win. How bad can your fucking taste get?
>>335655376
>Gundyr atleast changes it up
2 moves. Sweep or Jab.
Then in Abyss form, Slam with Long arm.
Boring as fuck fight that can easily be over in 30 seconds.
Vanguard was a fight you werent supposed to win.
Asylum Demon atleast had a lot of health
>>335655351
I had some trouble with Wolnir the first few times because my damage was so shit on his bracelets I thought it was a red herring trying to make me think it was a weakness, and I just didn't understand the fog's hitboxes so I'd frequently die instantly when he reached the top of the arena. And when I say my damage was shit on the bracelets I mean I hit them like 15+ times and they didn't break.
>>335655492
I like the Sulyvahn fight, but if I did have a complaint it's that sometimes the clone will attack at the exact same time the real one's attacking, so you'll see the clone attack, read the real one's moves, and as you're countering that the clone blindsides you off screen. Or the camera going nutty on me constantly.
>put down white sign infront of Pontiff's fog gate
>get summoned
>me, host, and 2 other phantoms
>fuck yeah we bouta wreck this shit
>host dies 10 seconds into fight
>>335655603
>Asylum Demon atleast had a lot of health
He's got the same if not less than gundyr.
The late game bosses completely wreck me with my slow swinging weapon.
You fast weapon fags will never know my pain.
>>335655692
>Host dies before the phantom is able to get through the fog gate
It was for Greatwood. He apparently died to the villagers in the arena before the boss spawned
For scientific purpose.
http://www.strawpoll.me/7422806
>>335655603
He has three different swings and two different stabs. He also has a punch and I believe he might have his grab. His abyss form has a bite, a head slam, and two arm attacks.
Vanguard has... three attacks? Two different melee swipes and a butt smash? He also takes longer to kill than Asylum Demon, but is actually easier. Long fights with overly simple movesets are boring.
And Asylum Demon does not have a lot of health. He dies very quickly, and if you started with the bandit knife the bleed destroys him so fast it's laughable. Or just use black firebombs and kill him before you get a weapon. At least you can't really cheese Gundyr.
>>335655758
That guy is literally blinded by nostalgia and has no defense for those shit bosses. Ignore him.
>>335655940
Goddamn you faggot straight sword users.
>>335655965
>cant really cheese gundyr
The game gives you 10 firebombs if you choose black firebomb as your gift in a selection of shitty other gifts
It takes 8 of those 10 to kill Gundyr.
It takes 1 Ashen flask refill as Pyromancer to kill Gundyr
You can throw 4 Firebombs before he even gets up, thats half his health if they were black firebombs.
>>335656246
It's not cheesing if you can only miss twice, and if you constantly have to actually dodge his attacks. Asylum Demon you don't even have to really dodge, just strafe slowly to one side. Vanguard is beat the exact same way. You cannot JUST strafe to one side with Gundyr.
>>335656501
It is cheesing since if you miss against his abyss form you should probably kill yourself.
If you lock on you literally cannot miss his abyss form.
Also the game gives you enough vitality on every starting class that you never fatroll, same cant be said about Demons Souls melee classes.
>>335649024
Crystal Sage fight depends on his positioning when he splits. If all 4 of them can hit you and you're in the middle you basically get instakill stunclocked. When you already know what he's gonna do it's very simple since you just rush to the clone and do a sprinting attack, then hide behind the pillar and do the same for the others.
>>335649545
>2 at once
Wat, just hit one with a bow and fight it in the small area where the ladder is. It's a bit more challenging since you don't have much room but easier than fighting 2 at once
>>335656501
>thinking in the mind of a Veteran souls player
Vangaurd you dont get any healing. If you choose melee your basically fucked if Demons was your first Souls. Youre literally SUPPOSED to die to him.
>>335656812
This is a nightmare 100% because of the camera fucking up in that tiny ass space. But yeah, people talk about the double gatordogs like it's twin Sanctuary Guardians or something.
>>335656918
I get that, but it doesn't make it a good fight. It just means you'll likely die the first time. Gundyr at least has a basic level of complexity to him, making him the ONLY actual fight of the tutorial bosses.
>>335649185
>Dancer
>Him
how dare you
>>335646332
my favorite boss was the one where you dodge the large armored man's large weapon combo, hit him twice, and repeat
and sometimes they have another health bar and now they attack faster and more
>>335657171
>implying the dancer isnt lorian before the curse
>can't parry mobs/bosses for shit
>literally do 99% partial parry, 1% actual parry
>parry in pvp no problem
I even tried practicing on dickwraiths, I tried practicing on the summoned knight at archdragon peak and it just won't fucking work
>>335657359
I suck at parrying in DS3 about as bad as you do, which feels really fucking weird because of how easy it was to parry in DS1. I can't even parry Silver Knights in this game, and they're THE parry bait mobs of DS1.
>>335655940
estoc except for parry bosses/group shits, then zweilhander.
>>335657207
Not reductive enough. My favorite one is where you do enough damage to kill the boss before it does enough damage to kill you
>>335657801
Mine's the one where you lose if you don't win.
>>335657296
Don't it say she though
>>335658046
Are you saying he isn't?
>>335655252
>Vantrash
>3 moves total
>good tutorial boss
>ass demon
>starts with 1/2 hp
>good tutorial boss
>gundyr
>aggressive
>double the moveset of vancuck and ass demon
>hits hard
>phase 2 can fuck you up if youre not confident
only gascoinge can be argued to be better, not your shitty ass slow 3 moveset monsters.
This is the first time /v/ liked a boss who you can fight twice.
Man, I know the idea was super simple, but it still felt really cool to come down on the Ancient Wyvern's head and wreck him.
I kinda wish maybe the fight was two or three phases long, where he would wreck the battlefield after each hit and you'd have to find a different way to get above his head each time.
>>335651621
Move Yhorm and Ocerios down to good and DragonSlayer and Dancer up to great and its perfect.
Easiest to hardest:
1. Deacons
2. Iudex
3. Yhorm
4. Crystal Sage
5. Ancient Wyvern
6. Wolnir
7. Oceiros
8. Vordt
9. Tree
10. Dragonslayer Armor
11. Abyss Watchers
12. Dancer
13. Aldrich
14. Brothers
15. Gundyr
15. Old Demon King
16. Soul of Cinder
17. Pontiff
18. Nameless King
My ranking from what I've played so far (keep in mind that I borrowed DaS3 from a friend and I've never played a Souls prior to this)
Easiest to hardest
1. Crystal Sage
2. Deacons of the Deep
3. Iudex Gundyr
4. Vordt of the Boreal Valley
5. Curse-Rotted Greatwood
>Died to apple pot man due to shockwave
>Died to spear tossing shockwave
>Died to the fucking tree boss because of
shockwave from 20 feet away
Please tell me this isn't a thing
>>335659447
I was hoping the first half would just make him vulnerable, like plunge him in the head and weaken him for the real fight, but that shit ending so abruptly just ruined it. It wasn't even a boss.
>>335649185
>parry
How about you stop playing the game on very easy mode you complete scrub? Do you think you're special because you can parry? No, most of us opt out because it's baby tier cheesing saved for speedrunning
>>335660062
>15. Old Demon King
Fucking how?
>>335646332
are you serious?
the old demon king, lorian, dancer, pontiff, soul of cinder, nameless king, and gundyr are all the same boss with some dumb gimmick that only serves to waste the player's time.
also, if you actually think nameless king is any harder than any of these, mute your audio.
>>335646332
>13. Yhorm (w/o Stormruler)
I mean, the boss isn't difficult at all, but wouldn't it take fucking forever to take it down without it?
>>335649305
yeah bro, i got the champion on my first try but nameless king is wrecking my anus
>>335661204
It can one shot most builds by that point with most of its attacks.
>>335661385
That's the only reason it ranks to 13. With how long it takes it has a fair chance to kill you at some point.
>Easiest to Hardest
1. Deacons of the Deep
2. Ancient Wyvern (kept missing the jump for whatever reason.
3. Yhorm
4.Cure Rotted Greatwood
5. Iudex Gundyr
6. Champion Gundyr
7. Vordt
8. Dancer
9. Crystal Sage
10. Dragonslayer Armor
11.Soul of Cinder
12. Abyss Watchers
13. Ocerios
14. Lorian & Lothric
15. Old Demon King
16. High Warlord Wolnir
17. Aldrich
18. Pontiff
19. Nameless King
I used a 2h weapon for all bosses except for Iudex Gundyr which I just 2h my mace.
>>335650091
If you use the call over gesture then only one will come and attack you.
>>335661354
what does muting your audio help with?
>>335661204
>has like 3-4 aoes
>can't easily go around him since he immediately flinches and turns
>can't kiss his dick since you get hit by his pommel for some reason
>has multiple instakill attacks
>very small window of opportunity if you don't want to be punished
He's completely equipped for destroying melee, but if you equip a bow or have sorceries he's laughable and becomes a mob with a lot of health.
>>335649185
>>Literally just have to parry him
Parrying takes skill though.
Are you waiting for me to say "wow you must be good at the game"? Because begging for that kind of praise is kinda lame.
>>335655123
The kick and shoulder charge are extremely unpredictable, and he can do them whenever. Luckily they don't do a ton of damage but he can be ruthless with big combos, letting you think you can poke him with a light weapon, then kick you and start up another huge combo.
>>335647927
Literally how?
It's so hard to get hit by Crystal Sages.
I've actually died to Wyvern because I've fallen through it's fucking head on the plunging attack but I've never died to Crystal Sages and I'm on my 4th playthrough.
>>335662397
His clones can actually hit you pretty easily depending on where they are, and if you get hit once it's very possible to get stunlocked to death.
>>335662013
it gets rid of all the auditory cues for dodging
the average person playing this game (or any game, really) will probably focus on both audio and visuals at the same time, thus associating both sound and video with the time for dodging.
however, this creates a poor sense of observation, and will likely be prone to error. by disabling the audio, the player will be able to focus entirely on the visuals (aka, what you should be focusing on)
>>335662847
thank you based god
i beat him first try
>Kill Nameless King's pet dragon easily.
>Go to fight Nameless King himself.
>Can't dodge ANYTHING.
>Take all of his attacks to the face.
What the fuck.
>>335663051
Try using the roll ring from the catacombs
What's with all the melee bosses having zero openings and infinite stamina?
>>335663576
They all have a shitload of openings besides maybe Champion Gundyr.
Soul of Cinder leaves itself open with almost every attack. Nameless King's entire second phase is openings, especially the super slow charge lightning bolt. Abyss Watchers are not only constantly open but backstab bait. Dancer leaves itself open literally whenever it's not spinning and especially when it charges its AoE. Twin Princes are never NOT open to attack if you can dodge even a little. Pontiff Sulyvahn is open after almost every attack especially during its clone phase. Yhorm is literally always open... always. Vordt is open any time he isn't using his charge and especially while he's using his slow ass ice breath. I hope the rest don't need explained.
>>335663925
>They all have a shitload of openings besides maybe Champion Gundyr.
Not if you use anything that's not a straight sword.
The recovery for even a single r1 lasts longer than it takes for any boss to punish you.
>>335664476
The only difference that makes on my list is with the Dancer and maybe the Twin Princes. Everything else still applies. You just have to choose your moments more carefully than previous games.
>>335649975
>use a bow to attract just one of them
>Clam the ladder and do a plunging attack on it's head
>it should get stunned, so walk up and do a light attack on its head and send him flying.
This works best if you have the cat ring
>>335664476
I only play 2h and there are openings for every boss after attacks.
>>335663051
All his attacks have a slight delay from the start of the animation. Just time it correctly. It'll probably take some practice.
>>335664476
This is especially true for the Princes. Those fuckers have an extremely small opening between combos.
>>335665162
That fall isn't insta-death?
>>335665325
cat ring spook etc
>Running to the Lorian/Lothric boss fight
>Manage to make it through the fog gate
>Spear from a knight comes through the fog and takes a third of my health by surprise
>Immediately hit by Lorian twice and I die
How can I make this fight less annoying? It takes forever to kill the 15 people leading up to the fight, and running past them is risky and makes summoning impossible.
>>335646332
I don't know how you think the princes are easier than Aldrich or Dancer. I beat each of them on the 2nd and 3rd try respectively without summons or much trouble.
>>335665325
Just climb half way up and drop
>>335665853
>Not using the elevator that is right before the fog gate.
>>335665853
Go up the stairs and immediately go right. There's an elevator that will take you to a shortcut near the bonfire from Dragonslayer Armor.
>>335665954
>>335666037
Oh fuck, I was too busy running from knights to notice. Thanks /v/
>>335666196
For the record? Everything on that staircase has an insatiable fetish for alluring skulls. Throw one and they'll have no idea you're there for like ten seconds.
I don't get why people say Nameless King was the hardest.
The first phase with the dragon killed me a bunch of times before I realized that he won't fly up and breathe fire if you stay in front of him, but I managed to kill the king himself the first time I made it past the dragon.
I speak as someone who got my shit pushed in by almost every single boss in this game.
Why is the soundtrack so shit? Abyss Watchers and Nameless King are the only tracks which don't feel like an orchestra is just blaring in my ears.
>Abyss Watchers not being 21
>>335666375
Because they are greedy as fuck and are shield fags.
>>335666473
Because FROM wants you not to enjoy the music but get blasted by the orchestra
>>335666563
They're fun, but they're literally just Artorias+Maria, andw hile I love those fights they bring absolutely nothing new to it outside of the first phase having an actually fun ganking gimmick. Plus being able to backstab them so easily half the time it's accidental held them back a bit.
>>335647927
I killed him in under 12 seconds with a plus 3 uchi buffed with pine resin he didn't even have a chance to do anything
Difficulty rating
>Nameless King 9/10
>Dancer of Boreal Valley 8/10
>Champion Gundyr 8/10
>Pontiff Sulyvahn 7/10
>Dragon Slayer armor 6/10
The rest literally don't matter. They don't matter not because they were bad but because nothing has dethroned the One True King of boss fights.
>Kenan and Kel 10/10 would slather lube on all over again
>>335651379
You asshole.
>>335668309
I beat the twin princes by summoning Orbeck and Sirris. They stayed alive the ENTIRE time! I've never had NPC phantoms survive past halfway through the battle before. I was baffled and impressed.
>>335668745
>>335651621
I can agree with this list
Wolnir gets a spooky athmosphere and entrance pity bonus, shame the fight was so boring
>>335668309
Why did nobody have any problems with the Soul of Cinder
I beat Dancer, Pontiff, Dragon armour easily but SoC destroyed me for a few dozen tries
Why is champion gyndyr so high in the lists? The first phase is same as the first boss and the second phase only changes attacks and once you know it it is as easy as the first phase.
Alright here is my list
1. The Champ
>>335672291
Cause the first boss was fun.
>>335672125
It was like the third hardest boss for me.
>>335672291
Because that first phase is fun when it becomes hyper aggro and doesn't hold back, and if you don't parry him he can fuck your shit up in seconds. He's legitimately the only boss in the game I feel like I'm still shit at.
>>335672291
Because people are not ranking just ranking him via diffuculty alone. He legit is a fun boss fight. Great aesthetics as well.
My personal boss favorites of those I've beaten so far from highest to lowest.
Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Nameless King/King of the Storm
Champion Gundyr
Saint Adritch of the Deep
Abyss Watchers
Pontiff Sulyvahn
Ludex Gundyr
Dragonslayer Armor
Oceiros the Consumed King
High Lord Wjolnir
Vordt of the Boreal Valley
Bosses I disliked
Old Demon King
Deacons of the Deep
Ancient Wyvern
Crystal Sage
Yhorm the Giant
Curse Rotted Greatwood
Champion Gundyr is the best boss in the game
>>335673471
Well he is the Champ.
>>335672571
I'm now fighting the Nameless King and he seems absurdly easier than SoC
>much fewer moves
>easier combos with wide windows to dodge and a big delay afterwards
>less aggressive, more time to heal
>appears easy to stagger
>less health, even considering the bird
The only problem is fighting that stupid crow over and over
>>335646332
Did a caster build(30int/30 faith, access to all magics), went something like:
Easiest-Hardest
>1)All the puzzle bosses except rotten greatwood & Old Demon King
>2)Rotten greatwood(at the time first fought was not packing a decent melee weapon)
>3)Deacons & Crystal Sage
>4)ludex Gundyr, Dancer, DragonSlayer Armor, Abyss Watchers & Vordt(Only reasons these guys are higher than 3 is aggression)
>5)Aldrich
>6)Oceiros(phase 2 was a nightmare)
>7)Twin Princes(almost ended in a double k.o.) Soul of Cinder(Sword and Spear phase left little openings to cast pyros, Greatsword's jump attack instant kills me)
>8)Pontiff & DA CHAMP
>9)Nameless King(Working on it, so close to getting phase 1 down consistently but phase 2 I dunno which magic type to use)
Least fave Boss is Wyvren
Best Boss is the Twin Princes(Soul and Nameless are good contender but the atmosphere in the prince fight edges out)
>>335670929
That fight was actually one of the few fights I could say was more difficult when I tried to summon. Brobeck does damage but squishy as all hell, and Sirris just doesn't do shit except sometimes tank. It was easier learning the pattern and when I can cast rather then rely on those two(or even one of them) to do work against a buffed up twin princes
>>335663051
Watch a YouTube video and listen to the sounds and watch his movements. Some attacks look like they're winding up but he attacks quick before you anticipate a roll like when he dashed sideways in the air
>>335663392
That ring was the reason I died so much to him
My damage and lightning absorption went into the negatives and he assfucked me
>>335663051
The only thing that consistently throws me off is the double-handed vertical slow following a double-horizontal swing combo, since he doesn't always do it and it takes like a second to come down, meaning that a panic roll fucks you
>>335672571
Get a good shield and learn how glaives work?
He's extremely easy and his one good move is the kick.
>>335657359
>>335657516
Did you try with a small shield or Parry Dagger?
The timing feels a lot better than using a normal shield. It feels 'right' from what I remember from DS1
>>335660861
The only shock waves I can remember are from that one non-boss Wyvern in Archdragon peak.
>>335674779
I tried using some small metal shield, like I said in pvp I generally can get a parry in but in PVE it's almost impossible. I tried using target shield, it has different animation so I thought it might have a longer frame window but its only worse. Didn't try parrry dagger yet
>>335646332
anyone fought the 3 golden winged knights in the archives all at once?
Should I use all my boss souls before offering the final lord cinders or will Ludleth still be able to make weapons afterwards?
>>335675334
you can still do weapons afterwards but without ludleth;)
>>335675325
I just farmed them to get ready for ng+
Around 60-70k soul every two and a half minutes
I don't know how people find Aldrich hard, I used underleveled raw astora's and made no attempts to dodge and didn't land a hit on me. She felt like a Crystal Sage with no clones and the same happened when I was summoned for Anri's kill. In NG+ and ++ the same happened but 10x quicker with Got Hard swords.
>>335655940
>http://www.strawpoll.me/7422806
>Nobody mains bows except me
Feels good to be special.
>>335655814
I know the feeling anon, hyper aggressive bosses are a pain with a slow greatsword and no shield.
>>335655814
That's because there is no poise at all in this game. You get staggered from a rat when wearing full havel's set. Vitality/strenght based builds suck really hard.
>>335649305
>>335661523
Opposite for me. The champ killed me at least 8 times, before I got him, it was probably closer to 10. I beat the nameless king 2nd try though, he's honestly not hard. Apparently people had trouble with Aldrich and Pontiff too? The champ and dragonslayer armor were the hardest for me desu.
reminder that Iudex begins with an "i", not an "L"
>>335673836
Alright finally beat nameless king and honestly I'd rank him about the same as the princes and soul of cinder in that highly telegraphed patterns and exploitable weaknesses make him an okay fight. Phase 1 Consisted of dodging attacks, staying near the dragons head(to do damage and run away in case he flys up to breathe fire) and slam dunking the head with melee range lightning spears. About 3 or 4 slam dunks stuns the dragon and its only another 2 or 3 more hits(dunks or no dunks) to kill. Phase 2 was playing the spear moveset soul of cinder again plus added instakill lightning bolt from the sky(dodge as soon as/a little after you hear the thunder sound depending on reflexes) it turns out that just like SoC black fire orbs really fuck him up(was doing double of all other same class spells). Overall though hes a pretty manageable fight once you can see his visual and aural tells.
>>335675605
I encountered him during the time my build was pure sorc. Usual bitch kiting tactics with sorcs didn't work and had to bring up pyros which was a pain in the ass casting them safely because of all his projectile BS. Had to learn a little but he wasn't hard just required a bit more thought than previous bosses baring pontiff
>>335649185
Parrying is cheesing. You only have to know 2 moves and the timing to parry to make a boss laughable and then you complain like a whiny bitch about it. It was the same with Gwyn who is supposedly free, just because retards can't beat him without parrying and think it is the only way to do it.
You're not doing yourself a favour by parrying actually.
>>335674168
>There's only one way to play the game.
Playing smart all the time makes the game easy. I had legitly trouble with him with my twinblades +8 at the time and no shield.
Using only the straight sword because it is easier is very boring actually.
>you can combine both Princes' weapons to make the Twin Princes' Greatsword
Fucking why? You need to be on NG+ to do this and beat the second to last boss of the game, this weapon would only ever see use in NG++.
>>335677514
Which reminds me, I've only ever done caster-dominant + dodging only no blocking runs in souls games. Gonna try to suppress my coward instincts and do a mainly melee run, anyone have advise for that?
>>335677651
Game(or at least the achievements, all rings apparently means all variants as well) seems to be built on the premise that you do at least 3 cycles on one character. I guess to see all endings and they did say that their souls fused together now their swords
>got namess to 1 hit twice now
>tied both times due to impatience
FUCK ME SO HARD
>>335677879
> Gonna try to suppress my coward instincts and do a mainly melee run, anyone have advise for that?
Look for a moveset that pleases you before everything else and stick to it. Every weapon has its advantages and its flaws against the bosses. As long as you stick to your weapon you should find at least 2 or 3 challenging boss fights. Dancer was a nightmare for my twinblade character and even more so because I did her early even though pontiff took me only 2 tries. People using strength character tell often the exact opposite.
>People had trouble with Nameless King and Dancer
lol
>>335658320
The Dancer isn't Lorian. That's fucking retarded.
>>335679189
Cool thanks I'll see which weapons seem suitable for me though I think I'll stay away from spears and curved swords since they're usually my backup/non-boss fight weapons on the caster builds. Should probably pick a shield up as well
>>335679454
NK's 1st phase hits hard and can one shot most low vigor character(at least half of his attacks 1 shot my 16 vigor character), his 2nd phase is easier on the damage front but moves kinda fast and delays his moves. Overall he punishes people who don't learn his tells but is otherwise a manageable fight. Dancer is apparently hard for melee builds? Shes one of 3-4 non-puzzle bosses I one tried on a caster build so I thought she was easy but her moves do look fairly intimidating
>>335649185
>>335655492
>>335674779
Do you faggots parry through life also?
