List of mechanics Nioh has ripped directly from Souls:
>different rolls and speeds at weight thresholds
>picking up your "souls" off your bloodstain where you died previously
>other player bloodstains
>stamina bar
>gestures
>shortcuts
>weapon and gear system just like Souls
>level up system just like Souls
>weapon degradation (which has no place in a game like this)
>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
>estus fla- I mean elixers that refill at the "shrines"
>the tagline "Ready to die?"
Bravo Team Ninja
Ok, but is it fun?
Souls literally invented video games.
>>335634362
No.
Gameplay is slow and clumsy. Loot system is annoying. Getting knocked down over the slightest hit and then getting axed while down is idiotic. Graphics are shit (DF said action mode runs at 600p). Camera system is ass. Stamina meter is fucking stupid. Leveling up stats has no place in a TN game. Mechanics are poorly (or rather not even at all) explained.
Game was an extremely mediocre disappointment. Tried way too hard to ride the Souls wave of success rather than doing its own thing.
>>335634264
List of mechanics all platformers have ripped directly from super mario bros:
> jumping
> collectables
> landing on enemies
> power ups
Bravo everyone
>>335634545
>Muh soulsborne
I very much enjoyed it, its a nice change on a familiar formula
>>335634673
You're retarded if you think multiple specific mechanics invented or refined by Souls that are literally ripped straight from it is comparable to staples in games like shooting, jumping, running, checkpoints, etc.
The more I play, the more I'm disgusted to find yet another mechanic ripped from Souls.
>>335634846
no I just think you're retarded for giving this much of a shit about some fucking game
>>335634264
Just beat first boss, bretty good.
>>335634264
You're saying that the Souls series made stamina bars, emotes, and shortcuts?
>>335635329
No, no one said that you braindead moron.
beat the demo today, loved every moment of it
any words on a potenital release date?
>>335635329
Souls didn't invent all the individual mechanics, but its particular combination of all of them is unique. And Ni-Oh has adapted that combination
>>335634264
>stamina bar
>gestures
>shortcuts
>power ups
>weapon degradation
You do know Souls hasn't invented any of these, right?
>>335635465
>List of mechanics Nioh has ripped directly from Souls:
>stamina bar
yeah, OP kinda did say that.
I watched about 8 minutes of gameplay that took place in the most bland environment I've ever seen. Is there anything in the demo indicating that they're capable of more than rainy wood house zone?
>>335635465
It says right there in the OP that it ripped off those things from Souls, implying that no other series did that
>>335635624
>its particular combination of all of them is unique
Now that's retarded thing to say
>>335634846
Having the game imitate soulsborne isnt inherently bad.
Imitation is important for business.
All these mobas imitating Dota/LoL and whatever hasnt made anything worse; it's actually made the pro gaming scene explode, and pushes the quality of the games by encouraging competition.
If you dont think Nioh is good, that's your opinion
But the fact that it is heavily inspired by the mechanics FS created is no bad thing
>>335634846
So why the hell are you complaining about this game in particular and not the Souls-Like genre as a whole? Do you have as much of a problem with Lords of the Fallen as you do this game? What about Salt & Sanctuary? Eitr?
The whole point of a genre is to improve or refine its core mechanics with each new game. Who gives a shit if it's a souls clone? Go whine somewhere else about normies invading your special video game genre.
>>335634362
The demo is free so you might as well try it. OP is either baiting or a retarded fromdrone.
op is just assumed because he couldn't get past the first enemy
>>335636572
>already 'git gud' fags
There is no need for other evidence that this is samurai souls
Sound like it's Dark Souls but good
>>335634264
The game is more like Onimusha than Souls
>>335636330
When will the PC demo be released?
>>335635691
>Judging the entire game based on the one area included in the DEMO
It's more than likely just the starting area and starting areas generally aren't that interesting.
Demon's Souls
>castle wall
Dark Souls
>another castle wall
Dark Souls 2
>fuck if I can even remember
Bloodborne
>dilapidated town
Dark Souls 3
>castle town
Hell, it's not even exclusive to the Souls games. Most games just don't have super interesting starting areas. They're there to lay the groundwork and things get more and more interesting from there, usually.
>>335635691
dumb westerner who can't appreciate superior japanese environments
>>335634545
This about sums it up.
I would also add the fact that the game manages to control even worse than Dark Souls 2.
get good faggot
Literally pasta from the other threads for sake of shitposting. Why is /v/ so addicted to shitposting?
>japanese setting
>main character is blond haired blue eyed
Are the hitboxes not shit at least?
Because that automatically makes it better than anything from has put out, save for Metal Wolf Chaos, and that's only if you're american.
>>335639346
I fucking hated Tom Cruise.
>>335639823
They're pretty good, but you're also way faster, you can easily dodge out of enemy reach or behind enemies
Are hammers part of the axe weapon class?
I have a purple hammer that's pretty slick and a bunch of samurai points. Up til now I've just been dumping into my katana skills.
>>335639346
Game is supposed to be based on a movie that was canned over a decade ago about the first gaijin samurai or some shit.
>>335634264
>shortcuts
>weapon durability
Really dude
Only real complaint for me is THAT I FUCKING CAN'T SEE SHIT EVEN WITH BRIGHTNESS TURNED UP ALL THE WAY SHIT IS DARKER THAN MY WIFE'S BOYFRIEND.
>>335640262
>>335640083
Eh, sounds okay to me.
Fuck From's shitty hitboxes.
This isn't even a gitgud ordeal. They make capcom's old MH hitboxes look GOOD.
>>335634264
literally who cares, there are hundreds of thousands of video games for you to enjoy as opposed to whining about one that has 0 effect on the series you 'love'
I assume summoning a visitor is similar to summoning in Dark Souls?
>>335639346
>>335640262
>>335640474
It was originally based on a half-finished Akira Kurosawa script that his son had finished. There was going to be a tie-in film that Kurosawa Jr. was to also direct, but it was cancelled in 2005.
>>335640262
>based on a movie that was canned over a decade ago about the first gaijin samurai
>nioh
>>335634545
Funny that you say gameplay is slow and clumsy whenever that is literally what Dark Souls is.
>>335640262
>First Gaijin samurai
>Not MC Yasuke
Yasuke was a loyal fucker and Mitsuhide is a nigger.
>>335634264
Literally none of that shit was pioneered by the Souls games.
What is the point of this thread? Though half the things you're saying are fucking retarded and have been around for decades, there's no surprise that the game is ripping off Souls. Doesn't mean it's not fun as fuck. Hell, the combat is better than Souls. I'm cautiously optimistic.
>>335635731
What other game has that exact same combination then you cuck? Nioh might not be a clone but it is clearly similar to souls and if you can't see that then you're fucking retarded.
What's your point? The series has become a genre now. There are more Soulslike games in development than RTS or Arena shooters.
>>335634264
>weapon and gear system just like Souls
i didnt know souls games had RNG stats for equipment drops. I always assumed they were all fixed.
>>335642746
Dragon's Dogma has most of those features.
>>335638540
NEVER
>>335638540
Never. game been a ps4 exclusive since it was originally announced as a ps3 tittle since that time kurosawa son was going to work on the movie.
So is the demo going to stop working after the alpha period ends? Or will we still be able to play it, just without online features?
>>335641837
WE WUZ SAMURAI AND SHIT
I can totally see axes getting nerfed
>>335643103
Dragon's dogma has weight thresholds and a stamina bar but the levelling is completely different than souls and it lacks every other feature on op's list.
What the fuck is with the boat boss?
I was enjoying the gameplay against mobs and regular monsters but this thing is kind of lame.
I know all of its patterms but if has a dumb amount of HP and 2 shots me.
>Have PS4
>Can play Bloodborne, DS3, and Nioh
Dont worry OP just keep shitting out those petitions and maybe 2-3 years down the line KT will shitout one of its fabulous PC ports of Nioh for you to play
>>335643514
Nah, it's completely unplayable if offline.
>>335634264
im so disappointed too. I was expecting something more like ninja gaiden but onimusha themed.
>>335643938
>Arnice
Someone else apart from me plays Nights of Azure??!
>>335643938
>BB
lol
>nioh
literally not even better than Ninja gaiden black
>>335643645
Yasuke turned out to be a bretty gud guy but was set loose by Mitsuhide because he was a filthy gaijin after his group made Nobunaga commit sudoku. The thought of a 6' 2" black rōnin who would let his sword scrape the ground while he runs like a cheetah just like in my woodcut Ukiyo-e makes me chuckle.
>>335643938
>Can play Bloodborne, DS3, and Nioh
Too bad that's just about all you can play :^)
>>335644180
WE WUZ
![JL #19 Injustice For All 2.avi_snapshot_11.46_[2016.04.24_21.57.08].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8D7etq9.jpg "JL #19 Injustice For All 2.avi_snapshot_11.46_[2016.04.24_21.57.08].jpg")
>>335634264
>Shortcuts
Metroidvania did this first.
Honestly I give not a shit if people rip off dark souls as long as its fun. I like souls, so the more souls the better.
this game gets hard after the first boss
>>335643938
at this point, it really wont be a surprise when the game gets a PC port since KT seems to be doing that to most of their games.
but I guess for now, PCucks are going to pretend to not care about the game and shit about it but cry internally because they cant play it for now.
>>335634264
>soulslike game
>expects it to be 100% unique and nothing like souls
okay bait anon, 6/10
Can't see how dying lots is fun. It's artificial difficulty. You fags lap it up.
Not to mention this 'demo' has been shilled all day here. Team Ninja must be desperate for a hit.
>>335643948
why?
>>335644263
SAMURAI
>>335644171
It's not even the same genre as Ninja Gaiden Black. And Black is the greatest game in its genre, so really nothing is better than it anyway.
>>335644485
>Can't see how dying lots is fun.
Because you're a casual.
>>335644171
>Ninja gaiden black
why do people keep brining ninja gaiden up? the game barely plays like a ninja gaiden game.
>>335634545
Everything you said is subjective.
I played the demo for about 10 minutes before I had to leave for work and it was fun.
It's a shameless Souls rip off and I don't care because it's not shit.
This is like Lords of the Fallen but good.
We're getting Souls ripoffs out the ass, action RPG's are going to ape this series for years to come.
There's a horrible looking scifi one in the making (not the From one), Suda51 is making one that's a free to play (respawn now for a Rainbow Skull!) shown at Pax East and then you have shit like Salt and Sanctuary.
>>335638628
It is the starting area. The character has been ship wrecked and you have to gain all your powers and equipment. sound familiar? It's how so many games start you off with nothing.
>>335644464
It wouldn't be a surprise if they port it, but man are they fucking shit at ports.
>>335644778
Same developer. The sword slicing in Nioh kind of sounds the same. That's about it.
this game is punishing in the stupidest way
>>335644987
It's punishing in the best way. It makes you commit to your attacks and if you misjudge you are punished accordingly. It's completely fair.
>>335644971
>Same developer
yeah, so? it still plays nothing like ninja gaiden you moron.
might as well just say dead or alive plays like ninja gaiden.
>>335645124
i'm sorry but that fuckin ninja in the tree is completely fuckin bullshit if you use spec into heavy
that fucker wont stop attacking
yeah yeah go to a low stance or parry but i didn't fuckin spec that way. you cant farm to shit because of weapon durability crappin out 24/7
the durability is my main issue
off all the things to not copy they chose the controls, face buttons for attacking is the worst
>>335644797
Maybe if you never played NG and settle for mediocrity. Everyone's opinions are subjective, the things OP posted are not. It's a Souls clone instead of a unique and interesting IP from TN.
>>335634264
Except Ni-Oh has been in development since before Demon's Souls was released.
Check mate.
>>335634264
>souls games inventing stamina, gestures, short cuts, stat allocation, weapon degredation
>>335634545
> mfw you just described souls
>before demo came out people said it plays like onimusha
Why did you all lie to me I was really hyped.
>>335645312
I'm not the one comparing it to Ninja Gaiden you cocksucking faggot. You asked a question and I answered. I agree the comparisons are retarded.
>>335645521
It was never intended to be like Ninja Gaiden. The gameplay footage shown off weeks if not months ago showed it played nothing like Ninja Gaiden. If you weren't an incompetent retard you'd have known not to expect it to play anything like Ninja Gaiden.
Really fun game. Just beat the second level. Being able to fight people's bloodstains was neat, the combat is really fun and the stance system is interesting.
All in all something to keep an eye out for I think.
everything about this game screams unfair bullshit
this is comin from a souls veteran
everything about this ALPHA just says they dont know what the fuck they are doing.
OTGS shouldn't be a fucking thing. stamina depletes ultra fast. wow tier item drops shouldn't exist. and throwing oni's in your face every 5 minutes isn't the way to go. you only get up to 5 "estus" by the time you get to the second mission. you need way fucking more unless you get lucky and some sad sack of shit drops one for you.
also the arrow limit. the fucking arrow limit
bravo team ninja.
>>335645612
The developer explicitly said Demon's Souls was the main inspiration for this game.
You fucking idiot.
>boat oni
Fucking christ that took me way longer than it should have
>>335634545
Holy shit I just read this a minute ago
>>335645728
There are similarities, but I don't think anyone ever said it played exactly like Onimusha. You could have always looked up gameplay footage yourself you know.
Also Dawn of Dreams was shit.
>>335634264
It's like Tony hawk and Gran theft auto games. Inspiration.
Enjoying it so far. Feels like bloodborne. I hate enemies poise during attack and they have long recovery times. Game gets easy once it clicks and all you have to do is wait...
>>335643908
BLOCK
>>335646081
There's nothing in the demo that the game doesn't give you the tools to handle. You're just bad at the game. I'm sure that stings, being a proud Souls player and all, but it's the truth and you're going to have to accept it.
>>335646081
Being a souls vet doesn't mean anything dude. It's not some badge of honour that means you've played hard games.
This has more in common with something like onimusha than it does souls when it comes to the combat.
>>335646125
It's okay to cash in as long as you're honest.
Reminds me of minecraft clones.
>>335639346
He's a 4ner to japan
>>335646338
the enemies telegraph your inputs. this is mortal kombat tier
nice try shill
>>335646394
not a badge of honor but the game is inspired by onimusha and dark souls
>>335646426
The game does enough differently that it isn't just a cash in. Combat in Nioh is completely different from Souls combat.
>>335634264
If the gameplay is good enough I dont see why it'd be a problem. Question being , of course , is it?
>>335646169
He honestly needs some tweaking.
He has 360 wakeup attacks he can bust out with no wind-up at all.
The tracking on his Boulder toss is nonsensical. One time I was at his side when he threw it directly in front of him and it pulled some Wanted bullshit and curved midair to hit me.
And that attack where he flops on his stomach has a wonky fucking hitbox. I dodged behind him when he did that and I still got flattened.
>When you complete a technique, return to a fighting stance and focus, recharging Ki for another attack. This is called a Ki Pulse
thanks game that makes zero fucking sense
>>335646081
Stamina depletes fast if you dont stance change. Offer All the whites and you get potions. It's more tolerable than fucking vial farming in Bloodborne.
Arrow can crit for head shots.
learn the mechanics and get good.
>>335645870
>I'm not the one comparing it to Ninja Gaiden you cocksucking faggot
Not the guy you're replying to but just another anon chiming in with a thanks for the laugh. Made me 'av a giggle m8.
>>335646189
>There are similarities, but I don't think anyone ever said it played exactly like Onimusha.
No threads about this game months ago before the demo came out people kept saying it played like Onimusha.
Also dod was just fine the only shit Onimusha game is that web browser title and tactics
>>335646517
>oh god I have no argument
>I know, I'll just cry "shill"
Try not to be a shit player next time, scrub. Also learn what telegraph means.
>>335646584
yeah that boulder toss completely fuckin threw sideways at me. that made me the most mad. but he can be block cheesed like fuckin crazy
>>335646650
yeah the game doesn't fuckin explain that you know?
>le git gud
alright go fuck yourself shill
>>335646394
>It's not some badge of honour that means you've played hard games.
lets be real if Dark souls came out during the 6th gen of consoles its difficulty would be average
>>335646517
The combat plays more like onimusha or Way of the Samurai.
You misused the word telegraph by the way. The game really isn't that hard. Give it another shot with a clear head, I beat both levels in a few hours and had a great time doing it.
I wasn't really liking it at first, but the moment I discovered the stance system and the customizable skills / combos, it started to grow on me. Auto ki regen with the stance and stance combination makes me think that it could have a quite decent skill ceiling.
>>335646394
This has literally nothing in common with Onimusha. Kill yourself you fucking retard.
So with spears should I be focusing on skill or strength? I notice that different spears will either require a certain strength or skill score, does that just depend on the type of spear?
So where are all the vidya journalists crying that the game should be easier?
>>335646763
So what souls game doesn't explain shit and you expect something different from a clone in this game. Oh there is a maunal in the options menu and they offer tips when you die. Maybe you should pay attention.
>>335646713
what was the argument exactly
there are zero tools except a psuedo grass and firebomb
ahahahaha you're the college kid with the highschool mentality aren't you?
>>335646817
telegraphed used wrongly? did you play mk?
holy shit the shilling is strong
>>335646863
>>335646713
same fag as fuck get the fuck out of the thread you elitist condescending piece of shit
>>335634264
What! No webms
>>335646863
>get literally btfo
>call samefag
kek
stay mad shitter
>>335646650
>yeah the game doesn't fuckin explain that you know?
It's almost like the game expects you to be intelligent enough to figure shit out on your own. Guess it was wrong though.
>>335639346
This is my main gripe. Where's my Samanosuke 2.0?
>>335646983
>Blah blah I know I'm a good player because I beat souls games and suck a lot of dick.
>>335635490
what do you unlock for beating it?
>>335646983
Telegraph:
"convey (an intentional or unconscious message), especially with facial expression or body language.
"a tiny movement of her arm telegraphed her intention to strike"
You weren't trying to describe the enemy telegraphing. You were describing them reaction to your button presses.
You were trying to say it input reads, you're just stupid. Now you're a little less stupid because I corrected you. You're welcome.
>>335646828
If you say so fella.
Why does nothing have hit stun?
>>335646983
Input reading. Mortal Kombat dies input reading. "Telegraphing" an attack is when there's an obvious tell before the attack happens, like a long windup animation or something. For instance, the zombie enemies in the demo telegraph their attacks pretty hard. What you are accusing the game of doing is input reading, where the game has enemies react directly to your button inputs. Which is bullshit by the way, and not in the game at all. You just suck at it.
>>335647331
A katana cuts so cleanly most things struck by one feel nothing and continue fighting
What the fuck /v/ why is this so hard? I mean I can take down an enemy when it's one on one but when there's even two I still get killed every time. And what is up with losing everything if you die?
this game is kicking my ass senpai, that fucking boss is figuratively raping me
>>335647463
Use the rocks (and later, the bow) to aggro enemies one at a time. Don't try to take on mobs.
When I go to download Mark Of the Conqueror it keeps telling me "This cannot be selected at this time". I beat the first boss, what gives??
>>335647463
I can take on about 3 at a time, tops. But only the scrubs. That Samurai dude that you meet later wrecked my shit because I underestimated him.
I stuck at these games real bad but I find the stance and combo system interesting and want to learn more. I only managed to get up to that hill early on and then 5 dudes came after me. I fell into the water and died..
>Nioh lets you lower the resolution to up the framerate to 60
Thats cool why doesnt every PS4 game do this?
>>335647542
How do I aggrovate them?
DO you have to play as this white boi? its jarring to have to play some white person in feudal japan
>>335647164
A dlc if you play the demo when it's out
>>335647720
I'm surprised the game even allows you to do it. It looks shitty but I'll take those buttery smooth 60 FPS any time.
>>335647795
Throw rocks at them.
>>335647463
Retreating back and preemptively swinging let's you combo most chasing groups unless they have a swole axefag amongst them.
Sell your garbage gear en masse for freebie items as well as XP
>>335647558
Do you have to beat Nue as well? Everybody was acting like you only had to clear the first boss
>>335647847
>it looks shitty
One of benefits of sitting away from my TV is I can hardly see a difference other than the framerate. I don't see how you guys can comfortably sit so close.Maybe I'm just going blind.
>/v/ makes anti-DSP threads because of how 'casual' he is and complains instead of learning through trial and error
>hard game demo comes out
>/v/ goes "WOOOW THIS IS BULLSHIT, SHIT GAME I KEEP DYING"
Oh the irony
>>335647809
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)
>>335648076
I'm playing on a 27" monitor, quite close. Maybe that's why.
>what if we make a souls game and make it unfairly difficult
yeah fuck this game, this is the epitome of bad game design
>>335647886
how?
>>335648341
>unfairly difficult
dark souls gameplay. onumusha setting, ninja gaiden devs
it's actually shit
>>335648341
literally impossible am i rite guyz?
>>335634840
how hard is it?
>>335648527
does not play like souls at all though
>>335648341
If some people struggle and others find it just right then we have to ask. Is the game unfairly difficult or are some people just not great at action games?
My biggest issue with the souls series is everyone who beat it considers themselves some kind of god of video games. This of course means if they ever struggle at anything else then the game must be broken.
Just for the record the souls game are mechanically pretty easy.
>>335647558
>>335648027
>everybody responds to shitposting instead of helping someone
Thanks guys
>soulsbabbys crying about difficulty
kek
>>335648632
B-But I timed my roll spam and estus chug perfectly!!!!
>>335648268
Probably. I have a 29" TV but I sit a few feet back.
>>335648403
Equip them to a quick-use slot, target an enemy, use it.
>>335648930
When do I get them? at the beginning?
If you guys have trouble with getting mobbed by 3+ enemies, try using that skill that leaves the spiky things on the floor. Mura something was the name, I think.
It gives you enough time to kill 1 while the others are slowed down by the spikes.
Team Ninja should just bundle up with Itagaki again since none of them can make good games without the other it seems
When people reveal their only frame of reference is the souls series you can safely stop taking anything that person says seriously. This games plays nothing like a souls game, in fact if you play the game like a souls game you'll get your shit wrecked and that appears to be what has happened here. The combat is far more methodical and deeper than souls and if you don't take the game seriously and think you can thrive with R1 spam babbies gets blown the fuck out real quick and come running to /v/ demonizing an action game for not being as shallow as the babby wants it to be.
It really begs the question how fucking new a lot of these people are to video games to be honest. Christ souls games are hard initially but the skill ceiling is fucking low, this game becomes easy when you put the same amount of effort and attention in learning the games mechanics, stat and skill builds. It's a tad more complex than the souls series but if you can't wrap your head around it and sooner or later begin fucking kicking the games ass instead it kicking yours you should make like the soviet union and just fucking collapse.
Lol I suck dick at this game.
How the fuck do you deal with more then one enemy at once. The area that has a bunch of people waiting in ambush while a dude is picking at some loot is destroying me.
>>335649524
Items, anon. You can also be a fag and lure them one by one I guess.
How's stance changing work. It doesn't change fast enough to seem useful in combat without running away first.
>>335649347
You are a retard. This is like souls games because the stamina bar which dictates play style. It's nothing like any other action game because of this and it's shit because it wants to be.
>>335649130
Enemies drop them. You can also find some on lying around. Just look around the starting area for glowing yellow items.
>>335649267
Nah. DOA5 was the best one yet, and Razor's Edge was solid. And Nioh seems pretty damn good so far. I'd still like to see another Itagaki-helmed Ninja Gaiden, but they don't need him. And for all the shit it gets, Devil's Third wasn't nearly as bad as people claim. It showed plenty of promise, and if Valhalla's next game has a smoother dev cycle I'm sure it will be good.
>think I see an opening
>attack
>enemy tanks through the attack
Onegai.
>>335649836
>babby cant spamn so this is a souls game and not a qte spamfest cinematic action game
Get wrecked more casual babby. I'll chop your penis off and feed it to you after the game is finished defiling your little asshole.
>>335650045
>Ninja Gaiden is a qte spamfest cinematic action game
Fucking retards in full force today. I guess I should expect no less from a PS4 exclsuive thread though.
>Go up that first hill
>try to enter that little area with the three buildings
>Gank squad runs out and murders me
>Try again
>Go around the gank squad
>Kill the Samurai and Axe on the second hill
>at the top is another enemy sitting down
>try to sneak attack him
>another gank squad of like 5 guys runs out and murders me
>>335649836
So it's like Souls games because of the stamina bar. Which tons of game used before Demon's Souls was released. Okay guy. The game has some heavy Souls influences but it is just as much it's own thing as well.
>>335650158
I farmed some arrows from the guys on the second hill, they help a lot in this game
>>335634264
>weapon degradation (which has no place in a game like this)
the fact that you are tripping over billions of weapons after just an hour shows that weapon degradation has every place in a game like this
>>335648076
>I can hardly see a difference other than the framerate
Was it just me or when you snipe a guy from far away he dies at like 10 fps? It's a very rough choppy animation
>>335650095
Ninja Gaiden has been exactly that since 2 for the 360.
>>335651053
>Was it just me or when you snipe a guy from far away he dies at like 10 fps? It's a very rough choppy animation
I remember DaS2 doing that too
>>335650653
Name on actual action game with an action bar.
This game is more like Dark Souls than anything else. The fact that you guys are trying as hard as possible to pretend it isn't because you don't like it or some shit amazes me.
>>335634545
Bitch there ain't any DF article about 600p so stop spreading shit. You fagit
>>335651132
Why would you lie on the internet?
>>335651053
Yeah it does that a lot.
>>335651132
So you don't even know what QTEs are then.
>>335651132
You are implying Ninja Gaiden Black is retard.
>>335651193
>Name on actual action game with an action bar.
MONSTA-HUNTAN
I have a few minor issues with the demo (gank squads being too common, weapons and armor degrading really quickly, stamina completely stopping you when it runs out, and I am sure there is more) but overall I really enjoyed the game, It's like an Onimusha/Souls mix that also gives me a bit of a Tenchu vibe, I haven't beaten the second area yet but so far I really like it, will end up preordering.
>>335651193
>don't like it
Nigger I love the Souls games. While Nioh has some definite similarities it's got plenty to differentiate itself from them.
>>335651354
I wouldn't consider MH an action game (It's a hunting game) and this isn't really anything like that anyway.
>>335651436
Yes, I never implied it was a straight rip off or a rip off at all. Just tired of people saying "HURR IT'S NOT LIKE SOULS SOULS BABIES IT'S LIKE ONIMUSHA" when it's nothing like Onimusha and closest to souls as a game.
>>335634264
>>stamina bar
I got this far before realizing you were memeing
good one m8
>NPC blood mound things completely ignore the rules of the game
EPIC
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So what are the chances that babies gonna find the demo too difficult and they're gonna tone down the difficulty? Itagaki is not there anymore to save us.
I don't even mind armor breaking a lot, as long as I could still do Fashion souls
>>335634264
people who defend dark souls online are the worst, you can't pay for this kind of advertising.
i bet the government is taking note on how to use it for mind control.
>>335651704
>ignore the rules of the game
?
Make sure to block while summoning them to avoid getting an instant asswhooping
>>335651609
Oh. Well at some point I must have misinterpreted your posts because I don't disagree with that at all. Oops.
>>335651713
Could you fuck off already? You are in every Nioh thread sucking you washed up failed cookie monsters dick. After Devils Third nobody gives a shit about him. No go and fucking kill yourself with him.
>>335651503
Demon souls borrow heavily on MH style slow, methodical 3rd person action game combat.
I'm not the anon you were arguing with and I admit it is unfortunate that Nioh had to copy the souls mechanic of retrieving souls, bloodstain, etc. However, don't act like vidya isn't an iterative medium where everyone build off each other's work.
is it better than lords of the fallen?
>>335651609
Nioh is older than dark souls
i gotta say i love ni-oh and will probably buy it because of the option to switch to 60 fps 720p from 1080p 30fps and you can go back and forth anytime from the main menu.
my problems with ni-oh were initially mechanic-wise, but now after an hour playing the demo it's just the really shitty camera in closed off spaces that bug me. it's also slightly annoying that the mechanics of your character you play as are a lot different than enemies; you move at different speeds, something that dark souls chose not to do and was all the better for it. also fighting multiple enemies is sometimes a bitch due to the camera and sometimes surprisingly quick and untelegraphed attacks (not sure if this is just early beta woes?)
i mean, i love every single souls game, and while i've never played onimusha, ni-oh feels like a nice souls spinoff ill definitely pick up.
>>335651838
>Make sure to block while summoning them to avoid getting an instant asswhooping
and lose 80% of my stamina in one hit
>Cis white man committing mass genocide of Japanese people
Why is this allowed?
>>335651713
You're talking to wrong anon dude and it is a legitimate question. Will they tone down the difficulty considering even DS veterans had trouble with the gank squads etc in this game
>>335634264
>shortcuts
oh just fuck right off
>>335634264
>>335634264
>stamina bar
>gestures
>shortcuts
>weapon and gear system just like Souls
>level up system just like Souls
>weapon degradation (which has no place in a game like this)
is this guy for real
>>335634545
git fucking gud
>>335652031
You mean the blood stain NPCs? Just fucking backdash when you're done summoning.
>>335634264
It's bait guys. No one can be this stupid to think Souls games did any of these things first.
>>335634846
you're seeing the birth of a genre. of course copying the new mechanics will seem like a rip off, as time goes on however it will become standard fare.
you don't consider sticky cover shooting a ripoff of Killswitch whenever you see it, but it is. it's the natural progression of things.
>>335651503
I agree, there's definitely no action in the main gameplay of MH.
>>335651954
I'm not acting like that, it's other people who are implying anybody who says this game is like Dark Souls is a "Souls baby" when clearly it's influenced heavily from it.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? That's subjective. Personally I don't care. My problems with this game don't have to do with the "Dark Souls" aspects of it.
>Attack until enemy x isn't staggered
>backdash and wait for him to finish attacking so I can keep attacking
This game would benefit a lot from a bloodborne-esque dodge system where I can just go around the enemy, or a parry or something like that. Is something like this in the game and just not explained until I find the right corpse or is it just clunky?
I like the gameplay in Nioh but it looks so aliased on my 4k tv I can't stand looking at it. hope it comes to pc for that reason
I've been playing for about 3 hours and haven't made it very far but I do like the ki pulse system. So far I've found a blue quality axe, a yellow quality spear with fire damage, and have been destroyed by the demon in the house at the top of the hill many times. I highly suggest that everyone get a ninjutsu skill point and buy the shuriken skill. It gives you 6 shuriken that replenish at shrines and you can use them to draw one enemy at a time. You'll run out of rocks to throw pretty quickly, these shuriken are a huge quality of life improvement.
>>335652309
That seemed to work. I was stuck on that level 20 NPC in the cave near the first boss of the game. Now I've got a set of armor with better defense than what I was using previously and with nearly half the weight.
Played for like five minutes and all my shit was broken. Don't want to use my sword since it's almost broken so I took off all my clothes and just started barehand parrying everything. Equipment degradation is anti-fun.
>>335652547
Parry is a skill you spend points on
>>335634545
>Gameplay is slow and clumsy. Loot system is annoying. Getting knocked down over the slightest hit and then getting axed while down is idiotic. Graphics are shit (DF said action mode runs at 600p). Camera system is ass. Stamina meter is fucking stupid.
So it's dark souls 3?
>>335634264
Dark Souls ripped off other games, so who cares.
Kill yourself fromdrone. Dark Souls will always be a shit series.
>>335652817
Dude I'm fucking swimming in swords and spears. They drop from enemies all the fucking time
>>335652948
Pretty much none of that applies to DS3 except the camera being bad.
How the fuck am I supposed to fight this oryoki faggot
My dodges seem to have no i-frames and my guard gets broken immediately
>creating an account just for a demo
lol
>>335653157
Literally if you're gonna call Nioh a souls clone, and say it copies Souls in everyway.
Then go on to say the gameplay is shit, you're basically calling the DS series shit.
Only reason you deny this is because you're a delusional fromsoft fanboy autist that can't tell his favorite game is actually just really bad.
GG no RE EZPZ.
>>335653276
First mode
Stick behind him and whack him occasionaly while keeping guard.
2nd mode
Run away and don't hit until he does that retarded dive and also dodge ball throws.
Doing this will be pretty long but was the only way i won.
>>335653276
Sprint around and bait out his attacks. While he still has chains bait the slam and wait for the spin and run in and get one hit and a kick. Repeat until stamina is gone. After the chains are broke kinda stay off him and just bait attacks and hit once and back off
>>335646081
>tfw cant even get past all those niggers with spears at the abode above the village
What do I do after the starter sword breaks? Hope someone drops another?
>>335653527
>>335653578
Im gonna take a break before doing this.
I've been using this bronze hammer and I feel switching to katana fag mode will help.
Jesus I hate how you get fucking two shot in this game, at least souls is rather lenient.
I am so glad there's no ranking system like Ninja Gaiden either, no hit runs on this would be cancer
>>335644180
Why the fuck am I just finding out about this guy? Holy shit, that's cool.
>>335653761
I used the axe and hammer all the time. Use the katana on the boss. The kick alone is worth it for his first form. It's low stamina usage is also really helpful
>>335653439
It's shit because it does a bad job copying from something that actually did it well.
>>335647463
using the spear with mid stance takes out groups fairly well
>>335654112
it's not trying to be Souls though holy fuck
Lords of the Fallen was shit because it was trying, and failing, to be literally Souls but with Blizzard aesthetics
Nioh's taken the core foundation of Souls which is traversing a punishing world while acquiring equipment and power and done it's own thing from there.
In terms of fighting enemies the game feels nothing like Souls.
>>335634846
none of the mechanics you listed were invented by from soft.
Which you would know if you werent an underage cumrag.
Would be 10x better without shit breaking all the time. It's like in Fire Emblem I never want to use good weapons because I don't want them to break.
>>335653903
Japs don't glorify him like they do the rest of their historic figures.
>>335654706
purple/blue gear lasts for fucking ages and whetstones/glue restore 50% at a time
just make regular offerings to the shrine and you'll never run out of anything
Hey can you dress like a ninja or do ninja shit in this?
I really, really miss Tenchu.
Game's pretty fun. Really long demo, was surprised. Areas are big and intricate.
Sacred Waters are broken as fuck, it's impossible to lose when using one.
>>335653730
Yeah, that's pretty much what you do.
There better be some hot ass spirits when the full game comes out.
>>335634264
>>different rolls and speeds at weight thresholds
How is this something Souls invented?
>>stamina bar
See above
>>weapon and gear system just like Souls
Absolutely not
>>bonfi- I mean "shrines"
Onimusha is older than Souls and it had Shrines that you would level up at.
>kill all those oni and the lightning cyclops with the help of a visitor
>walk into nue boss fight
>immediately hit by lightning for 1600
Nope
Impossible
>>335634264
how do i repair my shit?
>>335655743
Whetstones for weapons, and I think it's a glue item for armor
>>335655743
Whetstones. You can get them from enemy drops or by making an offering of your trash items to the shrine. The offerings will give you souls and randomly will include an elixir, whetstone or sacred water sometimes.
So I beat the demon in the ship and it let me download the DLC, but theres another area now. Do I get anything for continuing on?
I just played it for a bit
got killed a lot trying to get used to the mechanics
couldn't beat the first stage
but you can take off the guy's shirt so I might actually get it
the armor looks cool too
>first boss has a billion health and is like half the size of the area you fight him in
No thanks
So do certain stances beat other ones? That's what it seems like.
When I fight enemies with proper stances it seems like using a mid stance cant stagger their high stance.
