>DO NOT LINK THE FLAME
DAILY REMINDER THAT LINKING THE FIRE HELPS LITERALLY NO ONE AND ONLY CAUSES PAIN FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koCVr5mg6mw
>DO NOT LINK THE FLAME
>>335527856
What the fuck
what do i do instead then?
>mfw linked the flame
>>335527992
Cuddle up to your waifu in the eternal darkness.
>I told him to link the flames and he actually did it the absolute madman!
>>335528483
Which one? This game has the most canon waifus of all.
>>335527856
How do you trigger that?
>>335527856
as if linking the flame actually means anything and isnt some bullshit gibberish from pulled out of miyazakis ass to fool you into thinking there is a point to dark souls
>>335528483
>implying you'll be able to cuddle with her once you turn into a fucked up formless being
Vendrick was on the right track. Hope you choose the best ending, anons.
>>335529102
Murder his face, he'll respawn.
>>335527856
What the fuck did you think would happen?
It would feel like butterflys?
>>335527856
I never understood why would somebody ever link the flame, even in the DS1, all the shit it DS world came from the Gwyn faggot and his shitty flame, the cursed thing should have been extinguished long time ago.
how am I supposed to not link the flame if I can't even hurt enemies? this bug is really annoying, specially since a lot of these enemies just roam around making it difficult to find their spawn
>>335530180
I actually thought so yes, and the "burning" was only symbolic of your souls being burned away and not a phsyical feeling of burning.
Chosen Undead doesnt even fucking flinch when he sets himself on fire in DaS1 after all.
>>335527856
Dude it's a video game, nobody is in pain
Jesus christ, it's Undertale all over again
>>335530559
>"guys im so cool Im so detached from my emotions look how unique and edgy I am"
no shit it's a videogame, kill yourself
>>335530274
>He believes the Jew Snakes and unironically believes that the fire is the cause of all the bad occurrences in the world.
>>335530931
I'm a pretty emotional guy actually, and I really enjoyed both Undertale and DaS3, but acting like this is just plain retarded, it's just a video game.
>>335527856
Why do people still think not linking the fire is good? We've seen multiple times now how absolutely fucked everything goes when the flame goes out, far worse than linking the fire.
>>335527992
buy the dlc which will probably add a bullshit 5th ending
>>335528483
my waifu isblind
>>335531324
what happens when the flame goes out?
it's not really much of a surprise that sacrificing yourself to a primeval flame hurts like a bitch.
usurption of fire is the best endingeven if you're helping the snakes.. just like the dark lord ending.
>>335531570
I doubt you're helping the snakes.
>>335531532
you know what untended graves and chasm of the abyss looks like? You know those weirdos in lothric castle that explode in black cocks? It's that, but everywhere.
>>335531756
>>335531756
I say bring oblivion. And hope to hell the end births a better tomorrow.
Fuck maintaining an unending cycle of purgatory.
>>335531725
Yuria is one of Kaathe's pawns, and guess who goads you into doing all the edgelord shit in the game?
>>335529348
>level up with yore 4 times
>he won't let me level up a fifth time
>go fuck around in all other areas I possibly can to see if that triggers it
>he still won't let me level up a fifth time
>ok maybe I miscounted because I've literally and painstakingly done everything before catacombs
>walk 2 feet in catacombs, go back to firelink
>he's dead
>yuria never shows up
FUCK YOUR ASININE QUEST REQUIREMENTS FROM
RUNNING THIS BLIND WITHOUT MISSING SHIT IS FUCKING NEAR IMPOSSIBLE
FUCK
>>335531725
How are you not helping the snakes? Londor practically worships Kaathe, you don't think he influenced them?
>>335531725
I wouldn't know. apperantly if I get the hollow girls setI don't mean anri. it alludes to the snakes. never got the armor myself though.
>>335531867
I personally believe thatthe age of dark is really just a transitionary age as everything sinks into dark and the only thing left is the grey archtrees, and the age of dragon is born again
>there are people who somehow think continuing the age of fire is worse than just letting the abyss rape everything
>>335531756
You're gonna have the "humans are darkness" snake sympathizers on you any moment now.
>Oolacile completely fucked over after accidently encroaching on Manus' lair
>literally fucking everything that went down in New Londo
>Darkness supporters include horrifying abominations, edgelords, lying serpents, and a giant evil monkey man
Linking the fire and sacrificing yourself for the greater good is the only proper ending.
>>335531867
It's a cycle anyway so someone will relight the flame again sooner or later. Seeing how people tried to keep it lit suggests it's better that way instead of being a abyss blob.
>>335532086
well that is what starts to happen towards the end of dark souls 3
then ashen one goes and fucks everything up because he's an idiot who ruins everything
is it shitty to live in londor? how big is the world of dark souls?
>>335532020
He was drawing out Hollow Powers. How do you think you could unlock more Hollowing?
>>335532086
My outlook was that the age of fire has been sputtering and dying for a long time.
Instead of stringing it along on life support, I just felt it was time for things to die with a little dignity.
I'd like to think my character is sitting in the dark with the Firekeeper waiting what is to come.
So did anyone find a merchant that sells covenants item in the game yet?
>>335532365
I should have noted, I committed suicide a good deal so I already had enough hollowing.If you're wondering why I knew all of this in a blind playthrough, friend spoiled me on it.
>people will defend the abyss and darkness despite every game showing the abyss as nothing but a world unfit for anything that isn't a mindless monster.
The darkwraiths are the only humans that can live in the abyss and that's only thanks to some serpents mercy. Darkfags literally want to be slaves to some serpents.
>>335532306
Oolacile seems like it's been aight for a while, go live there
>>335532306
Fairly large. Several nations and peoples existing over the seas and from distant lands have been mentioned throughout the series.
Personally, I'd love to see them riff off the classic "Journey to the West" and have a player from their far-east analog have to do a great journey ending up at Anor Londo. It would give them a chance to explore some new territory while keeping to the themes and mechanics we've all come to love.
>>335532574
>Darkfags literally want to be slaves to some serpents.
Darkfags confirmed for kikes.
>>335532020
You have to accumulate a certain amount of hollowing before he gives you a level, ie you have to die alot.
>>335532020
You only level up when you die 2 times. Every 2 deaths you can level with him again to 5.
>>335531418
Good taste anon
>>335532574
>burning yourself is good for everyone but yourself
>not burning yourself is good for you but sucks for everyone else
>it's all a cycle anyways
Shit sucks everyone dies etc except serpents for some reason
Maybe we need to kill the serpents?
>>335530274
when the fire fade, the curse spread.
linking the fire = stopping the curse
not linking the fire = god lose strength, humans go hollow. environment dies and everybody starved to death.
>>335528483Attack the firekeeper after defeating the Soul and stomp her head and steal the first flame for yourself.Like I did.
>>335532862
Serpents just want to rule the whole world and to do that it has to be turned into the abyss.
So is giving the Fire Keeper those eyes supposed to be a bad or unwanted thing? Her dialogue and the music seems to imply that, or is it just because you're not doing your job like a good goy?
>>335532306
Well for one thing, there are no normal people in the Dark Souls universe. Only undead or other fucked up beings.
>>335532958
>linking the fire = stopping the curse for a while
is just a waste of time
>>335533027
It shows her horrible visions and makes her go mad.
>>335532574
As opposed to the countless nations and the entirety of their population falling over and over again because everyone within it turned into a mindless monster once the fire starts fading? They're both fucking shit but at least the fire will probably be reborn with full force during the age of dark.
>>335531570
this anon is right though.
>>335532157
You don't think it's telling at all that the age of fire has clearly hit diminishing returns? The fire you get if you link it at the end of 3 burns so weakly, it's clear it's not supposed to continue burning much longer.
>>335531256
>I really enjoyed Undertale
Autist detected
>>335533004
Maybe they don't want to rule it but they are the only things that last forever and prefer everything to be fucked up instead of fire. They are 'primordial' serpents after all, they are probably assholes from before/outside time who just want to fuck shit up to make everything comfier for themselves. You know, like a lot of stuff from lovecraft.
>>335533053
Not all humans turn undead, at least not right away.
What's his dialog there have to do with anything?
>>335533243
That sounds exactly like the thought process of any dickhead being who would come up with a covenant like the Darkwraiths. Although Frampt seemed like he was perfectly content going against the grain and helping you link the fire.
I desperately want to know more aboutOCCELOTTE. I hope he is a major player in the dlc.
>>335530274
Wrong.
Within the Flame they found the Lord Souls. The Furtive Pigmy split the Dark Soul and created humanity. When the fire starts losing its power by fading, this connection is obviously weakened. After all, the Dark Soul, which makes them human, came from it and thus they start to hollow, which is humanity's natural state when the influence of the fire is lost on it. Linking the fire is the only logical conclusion, unless you want to support the idea that becoming a mindless zombie will amount to anything.
Daily reminder to ignore serpent shills.
Well who the fuck is real big and evil boss of dark souls, if all linking the fire does is stoping the curse what the hell is causing it? Do we gotta fight like saten or some shit?
>>335532062
literally kill yuria and she says "I failed thee, Kaathe"
>>335533446
don't you see the snakes are literally playing both sides?
>>335530274
Fuck off kaathe
>>335532170
Linking the Fire created the Curse.
>>335532862
>>335532958
>>335532441
https://youtu.be/EnKP62ejnWk?t=296
>>335533513
You don't get it, our natural state is one of neither good nor evil. With the Flame it creates light and dark, good and evil, life and death. The only way to win is to remove ourselves from the equation. Otherwise we will continue to struggle through existence forever.
>>335533513
the flame dying is just a natural course of history, but some fags out there want to cling to it and extend it a bit longer. The age of fire has been literally in life support for too long
>>335533513
It's universal entropy, it can't be fought, only delayed. Miyazaki likes his depressing nihilism.
>>335533225
Explain yourself
>>335533813
5.40 is best ending
>>335533738
To expand on that, Aldia finds in dark souls 2 that Hollows are the true state of humanity and that humans we know them were only possible with the linking of the fire.
>>335533513
Everything dies in the end
>>335533813
No thanks anon, I want to earn them.
>>335533881
Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Fuck any darkness fag that just wants to give up and give in.
>>335533513
See >>335533486 and >>335533954
The curse doesn't mean anything, it's just humans returning to what they actually are. Humanity is the anomaly here, even though it's certainly better.
>>335527992
Do what Vendrick and Aldia seek to do, and take Fire and Darkness together. Break the cycle.
Or just let the world experience the heat death of the universe. Both are better than linking the flame
>>335533513
The real evil boss is Gwyn, who committed the first sin by artificially extending the Age of Fire. The world going to shit is his fault.
>>335533513
>Well who the fuck is real big and evil boss of dark souls
there is none
>>335533513
When Gwyn linked the fire he broke the natural progression of the world and that caused the curse of hollowing.
When the hollows stopped linking the fire, the fire created the unkindled.
>>335534085
>literally nothing existing anymore and perpetual hellish darkness is better than giving humanity a chance to prosper and live normally
yeah, right
>>335534249
*Cough Pontiff cough*
Pontiff was actually a despicable piece of shit antagonist that I felt satesfied killing.
>>335527856
I think you guys are forgetting that even if you don't link the flame, the firekeeper herself says she can see tiny flames in the darkness. There is literally no way to stop the fire because this is a typical cyclical Japanese story.
the dark souls world as we know it has always been a state of fading fire. and it sucks dick. all linking does is extend that. things should just progress naturally into darkness.
>>335533486
Aldia thinks you're full of shit
If DaS is truly a appropriation of ideas already present in DeS then the lords soul found in the flame probably has the same properties as the soul given to man in the intro to DeS. Thus both humans and the lords owe their "clarity" or general self awareness to them without the souls or the flame everyone would be mindless just like hollows are.
>>335534321
>When Gwyn linked the fire he broke the natural progression of the world and that caused the curse of hollowing.
See >>335533486 and >>335533954
>When the hollows stopped linking the fire, the fire created the unkindled.
Not really. From Miyazaki's interview two days ago:
Q: Previously, the protagnist was called 'Undead', in Dark Souls 3 he/she is called 'Unkindled'. What is the difference between the two?
A: Dark Souls 1's protagnist is Undead, its story is about linking the fire. But Dark Souls 3 depicts the Undeads who didn't succeed in linking fire and becoming cinder, but failed and burned to nothing. Unkindled is born out of their remaining ashes. Unkindled exist to inherit the past and put an end to this cumulative tale.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4gg3jg/april_23rd_hidetaka_miyazaki_interview_in_taiwan/
>inb4 le ebin /v/irgin anal prolapse because muh leddit boogeyman
>>335534350
the world fades into nihilism with the flame
good and evil only exist when living isn't suffering
>>335534329
>Believing Gwyn's lies
>>335534040
and yet you are going to have to read an online guide just to get them
>>335534507
CU confirmed as a chump underachiever as he's not a lord of cinders in the game. Unkindled is literally the second chance of CU to not fuck up.
all i got from this thread is Miyazaki is a hack...
>>335534656The chosen undead is the first form of the soul of cinder
>>335534507
You just proved literally what I just said you sperg
>>335534656
various CUs join together in the sould of cinder.
>>335534576
Exept Pontiff was an actual evil mother fucker
>Mind rapes an unknown daughter of gwynever and turns her into his personal dancing whore
>Sieges anor Londo when Gwyndolin is ill to free his master and then force feeds poor gwyndolin to aldrich after doing god knows what to her.
Fuck this dude, death was too swift and kind for him.
>>335534612
You mean Aldia? Because he's the one who found out that hollows are the natural state of humans.
>>335534656
the Chosen Undead is the final boss bruh
>>335534690
we know it a long time ago, m8. he cant even keep dark souls 2 following his vision despite being the boss in Nipland of all places.
>>335527856
>game is called Dark Souls
>some faggot asks you to start a fire so it would stop being so dark all the time
>what's the worst that could happen
>>335534745
>>335534798
Those might as well be failed undead that just used the bonfires. After all the ashes in the bonfires are from dead undead so it could have just channeled that as a warm up before calling on the power of a real lord of cinder - Gwyn.
>>335534489
No, that fits perfectly with what Aldia said.
It's just that Aldia thinks that having any of the Lord Souls and not just being a world of hollows is a sin.
>>335534804
>gwyndolin
>her
>>335535085
Are you saying Gwyn is a liar? He only had two daughters.
>>335535085
Yes her. This maymay is getting really old. If she didn't want to be a girl anymore she'd have stopped a couple thousand years ago.
>>335531418
>not giving your waifu sight
You truly are a terrible husbando. . .
did dancer had a hard life?
Fuck the cycle.
Just end the suffering.
>>335535367
Yeah... and it makes me real sad thinkin about it :(
>>335535367
Yeah, she was forced to dance with those two swords to mimic flames while Pontiff sat and jerked off imagining fire. Sick fuck.
>>335535475
You would still suffer only then everyone would be a mindless hollow along with you.
>>335533930
He's a shitposter, dude. Have you not been here for the past...well, since Undertale came out?
>>335531256
Tell me Sif waiting by his buddy's grave and protecting it didn't make you feel anything because it's just a game. Especially with the music, and when he started limping and falling over.
Tell me that and I can tell you that you have autism.
>>335532020
>Usurp the fire totally blind
>Have no fucking idea what's going on or why
>Uninstall shortly after
>>335535591
literally can't suffer if your mindless dude.
>>335535490
>>335535485
Knowing what happened with dancer I wish we had an option to drop our weapon and give her a hug while gently saying"you're suffering is over, sweet one".
>>335533513
The Dragons are the ultimate bads.
>opposed Gwyn and his forces
>planted Seath as a double agent among the lords
>fucks with humanity via Seath and the serpents
>responsible for Nameless King's betrayal
Fuck dragons.
Just finished my play through. Being off the internet for 4 weeks was suffering. Found a surprising amount of stuff for my first play through. Only missed Archdragon Peak as far as areas go. Finished with 15 +8 flasks. About to reroll as a magic user.
>>335535291
Where do I get that pose???
>>335535654
Dude I've been worried about having autism since I was 14 years old because of several reasons and this now might just confirm it
If you don't link it someone else will.
>>335535708
We actually don't know that. We never see what the dragons were like before they were attacked and overthrown.
>>335535740
Shit. I thought I was good with 12 +5 flasks. You must be a lot better at checking areas than I am.
>>335535668
Well hollows are mindless compared to normal humans but they don't attack themselves so there's clearly a speck of will in them. It's not explained like in DeS why hollows(soulless people in the case of DeS) are hostile to only sane people.
>>335534329
Humanity wasn't supposed to exist for starters, age of ancients ending was a mistake.
>>335535654
>If you don't care about fictional characters you have autism
>>335535969
>hurr what is empathy
retard
>>335535957
Dragons are the biggest victims of DaS
>>335535903
because they are naturally attracted to what the lack. like a moth to a flame.
>>335535903
Because literally video games. Imagine if every enemy started killing each other and you sat from a distance and watched then carefully walked by picking the drops?
>>335535895
It took me like 65 hours to beat the game I did a lot of searching. I missed the one estus shard off the skeleton ball in the catacombs.
>>335535669
Mebe in dlc we can have something like an alternate Sif cutscene in Dks1... I mean it'll still be sad but like... at least something. Post Dancer pics to cheer me up ;^;
>>335535224
Pretending to be a girl, even for thousands of years, doesn't mean you're actually a girl, anon. He was born a boy and died as one.
>>335536003
Lemme just feel some empathy for this chocolate bunny I'm eating oh no it looks so sad I can't eat it the feels :(
smash dat fukkin like button if u agree
>>335527856
booerns
>>335534237
What Gwyn did by linking the fire wasn't really any more artificial than the Lords' war against the Everlasting Dragons in the first place. It's a pretty typical mythological cycle, of gods rising to defeat primordial, unformed chaos, and then proceeding to create the world, life, and mankind, which requires sacrifice to be sustained and kept in prosperity. The Age of Fire is probably part of a larger cycle itself, eventually it exhausts itself fully, but inevitably it comes again.
>Skull Ring description
Yeah, I don't trust what burnt Lieutenant Dan says.
>>335536080
And what do hollows lack? protipit's not humanity as DS2/3 doesn't even have that
>>335536190
congratulations on literaly having autism
so... shit happens to dancer and what not, real question is... how flexible is she?
Are there even humans in the Dark Souls world? I don't even know if anything is worth saving.
>>335536283
stop enabling him, hes obviously baiting you.
>>335536243
Problem is the dragons literally sat in place doing nothing. I don't see how they blocked the creation of a new world if they can live perfectly fine in the age of fire.
>>335535708
>Fuck dragons
>dragons were just chilling and fucking around, not bothering anybody
>Gwyn and his Faggot Brigade just show up and decide to throw lightning at them
man fuck gwyn
>>335536274
did it literally says an effigy restores humanity. while in ds3 you aren't a true hollow, you're unkindled. or if you go a certain path, a artificial hollow.
>>335536018
>just exist around
>do nothing wrong since there's no other beings around they could even want to hurt
>some shitstains find fire
>start wagging war
>lose because one faggot felt too different
>even now some beings still realise how stupid that was and how their only hope of salvation is to aspire to become a dragon
>>335536486
I still feel a bit bad for gwyn, I feel like he never intended any bad to come out of all this.
>>335536390
>baiting you
I'm the one being baited here. Baited by these NEET pieces of shit who get moved by their cartoons and videogames. It's downright upsetting, anonymous.
>>335536116
>dlc we go into some memory magic in the Deep cathedral
>Dancer is doing a lapdance for Pontiff
>Dancer mesess up, Pontiff gets up and beats the shit outta her
>Say's she has an hour to get it right and he'll be coming back
>Dancer is laying down sobbing uncontrollably
No thanks.
>>335527856
>not taking the flame for yourself while killing the fake Firekeeper abomination simultaneously
mfw best secret ending
The narrator getting asshurt at you along with no achievement/trophy cancer confirm it as best ending
>not being like the Bearer of the Curse and telling the cycle to go fuck itself
>>335536486
>even after winning they hunt down pretty much every dragon until they believe them to be extinct
gwyn is hitler
>>335536387
Yeah, Carim, Catarina, Vinheim and the swamp seem to be okay and with humans. Other kingdoms not so much, but who knows how large the world is?
>>335536684
I wonder what that asshole is up to anyway while some other guy goes and does his job ending the cycle.
>>335534237
>world going to shit is his fault
>world would never be able to go to shit if Gwyn hadnt made things better by linking the Fire in the first place
>world was shit in the first place
>some how world being shit forever is better than world being not shit for periods of time that depend on the fire being linked
i want dark fags to fuck off and die
>literally the whole game is fighting the minions of darkness
>kek don't link the flame guys
>>335536737
If he is Hitler why does a jew tells you to succed him?
>>335536827
world wasn't shit in the first place. it was literally nothing
>>335536420
>>335536486
I wonder who's behind these posts
>>335536840
Linking flame is stupid, take the flame.
>>335533486
>>335534832
We knew that from DS1 intro. Both Lords and Humans natural state is hollow. Yes, Gwyn, Nito, etc were all ugly hollows at first.
>>335536636
keep it coming friendo i welcome it i love it
One thing about the everlasting dragons.
Where the fuck are they? They're everlasting. They're neither alive nor dead, so how were they killed? The whole lightning spear barrage and the festering disease from Nito shouldn't have done anything. It's like trying to kill a rock.
You know why dragons where beaten because they were a bunch of limp dicked lefties. If there was a dragon Hitler he would have never allowed for the birth of a disfigured abomination like Seath. The dragons forgot to safeguard their racial and genetic purity and that lead them to their defeat. So to sum it up Hitler did nothing wrong.
>>335536916
your argument is basically equivalent to you not wanting to be born if you start suffering towards the end of your life, because when you're suffering life sucks, even though you're totally ignoring any happiness you had before you started suffering
>>335536931
So who is the furtive Pygmy? Dlc when?
>>335530274
In DaS 1 it was clear no matter which you chose it was fucking pointless, only in DaS 3 can you take a definitive end to it all because if you let the fire end naturally and allow a new world to eventually be born in the current one's absence since theres no other shmup alive besides you with the strength to save it anymore. OR you can just absorb it entirely and put a complete end to cycles to the current world and let the world continue without experiencing a complete heat death.
>>335537009
They were betrayed by Seath, not sure how, but he might've held some secret knowledge about a weakness they had.
>>335536918
Gwyn pls go back to you bonfire you faggot.
>>335537058
Obviously Manus. Furtive pygmy is tied with the abyss, dark and humanity. Humans can ascend to become wraiths.
>>335537058
MANUS
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>>335537009
they are everlasting in the way that they will always have followers.
>>335537009
>It's like trying to kill a rock.
Well, when the molecules of a rock vanish, it's pretty dead then
>>335537058
>So who is the furtive Pygmy? Dlc when?
Furtive Pygmy was just another hollow. He gets the name becuase all the lords went from hollows to super cool giants with god like powers. He just turned... into a tiny weak human. A prettier smarter version of a hollow really.
The Furtive pygmy himself is not important.
He might be Manus. And we killed him ages ago.
>>335527856
Age of Ancients = Primordial dragons
Age of Fire = Gwyns god complex world
Age of Dark = Real humanity not cursed to be gwyns fire cock slut.
The choice is basically if you want to be a linking the fire slave or not.
>>335536931
Nope, that's wrong. Gwyn, Nito & CIA are not humans. They are Giants. They aren't even affected by hollowing, otherwise we wouldn't literally have beings such as Yorshka or Gwyndolin still existing in dark souls 3 after multiple cycles.
Humans are what resulted from the split of the Dark Soul. Gwyn and everybody else already existed prior to that.
>>335537058
DLC come and gone, anon. Furtive Pygmy is dickass monkey man, and defining proof that darkness is shit, has always been shit, and will continue to always be shit.
>>335536931
no nito was a skeleton
>>335535786
just play the game, it's not missable, it's right next to a main area bonfire
>>335537149
The only weakness dragons had were their scales, Seath only pyrpose was to tell Gwyne to peel their scales off and you kill a dragon.
>ash lakes trees are all burned down
>stone dragon nowhere to be seen
>no dragon covenant just an anorexic dragon form
ITS NOT FAIR
>>335537170
>Humans can ascend to become wraiths.
Wrong only humans serving the serpents are darkwraiths the dark hand is a serpent technique.
>>335537009
Is a rock alive? No, is it dead? No.
>>335537009
The first game tells you they where immortal because scales, Gwyns tears of their scales, the witch burns their homes, Nito kill them in mass and Seth went Rambo on their ass.
>>335537247
>do I want to be a mindless insane prune
>sure, let's let that fire go out
>don't worry, these cool snakes and this crazy fire man told me it was all good
>>335537268
Dark Souls 3 even reassured us the darkness is fucking shit. Just look at how the firelink in the dark age looks like with that zero fucking light anywhere and zombie dogs roaming about.
Dark a shit.
>>335537149
>>335537009
>>335537235
The fan theory is that Seath told Gwyn the secret of their ever lasting life was their scales. Remove the scales and you can kill them. Gwyn's lighting bolts are able to peel back their scales. This then left them open for others to attack them. The Knights, the miasmas, the flames.
Seath was rewarded for this, and since he was a scaleless dragon and would die, he began researching another way to not die.
They could also be literally immortal and regrow after time.
>>335537319
Well, apparently that was enough to turn the tables. Gven how Gwyn linked the fire, witch tried to recreate it and Nito gave no fucks, it's safe to assume they weren't the brightest bunch.
>>335535003
Its explicitly stated in its Soul description that the Soul of Cinder is the manifestation of every single person who has ever linked the fire including Gwyn and anyone that has ever chosen the Link the Fire ending in DaS1, which is why it uses so much of our own shit.
>>335537352
Well no shit he is nowhere to be seen, that nigga has to be long dead.
>>335532157
>link the fire in 1
>CU catches fire like some bootleg fireworks
>link the fire in 3
>few embers fucking around
>probably run out by the time the credits roll
Clearly works well and isn't just a fluke
>>335533486
>The Furtive Pigmy split the Dark Soul and created humanity
<Citation Needed>
>>335533513
The default state of the DaS universe seems to be everything being awful. It's not all bad, because of some heroes who've upset the status quo. Now you have to kill them all, along with some utter madman, to keep the legacy alive. But it doesn't matter because it's all going to shit anyway, just a little slower.
There's like 3 types of beings you kill, I've found. The monsters, like Aldrich, Seathe and the demons. The fallen, often good guys gone crazy like hollows, Yhorm and so many others. Then there's all the still sane good ones you kill just because they're in the way like Sif.
You have some real wicked guys around, but they don't matter any more than the good guys and you have to kill them all, more or less. So no, no big bad who killing would make the world good again.
>>335537382
Well the serpents are beings if the dark abyss. So if thry embrace the dark enough they can ascend into becoming a darkwraith.
>>335537435
But that's what the fourth ending suggests I think?
I'm not positive but the reason snakemans way never worked was because there was always a piece of the fire to be linked.
Now that you literally become the living vessel of fire and theres nothing left for a random cursed undead to link the age of humanity ushers in.
>>335537391
That was my point. They should be like rocks, but they're portrayed as endless beings.
If it's scales that make the dragons immortal, what about Kalameet? He's a true dragon, not some pussy drake, not a weak dragon either. It seems he's a pretty feared one, he brings calamity. You could polish him off quite easily using a wooden club.
>>335533465
He's the nameless king
>>335537251
>Nope, that's wrong. Gwyn, Nito & CIA are not humans. They are Giants.
Look at the intro. it talks about them finding the Lord souls. And who does it show, hollows going towards the First Flame. Why would it show a totally random image of unrelated hollows? It's obvious that these are the ones who the narration is talking about. These are the hollows who became the Lords.
Lords are immune it seems to hollowing. For what ever reason.
There is no "giant" race. There's just hollows, and what those hollows can in turn, turn into, like humans or lords.
>>335537274
Nito was a hollow who, once he got the Lord Soul turned into a skeleton guy. And he probably added more skeletons to him.
>>335533513
>all the replies
>no single mention of Kaathe and Frampt
>>335537541
What the fuck do you think the Humanity of dark souls 1 is you dumbfuck?
>>335536823
To be fair all the Bearer of the Curse wanted was a cure to the damn curse, the Emerald Herald manipulated them into thinking taking the Throne of Want would be the answer.
Thankfully through the Lost Crowns series we can get all of the Crowns and have a cure for ourself from it, then proceed to tell everyone to fuck off.
>>335537780
nope, literally says Gwyn's first born.
>>335532574
Daily reminder serpents are incomplete dragons.
>>335537806
>There is no "giant" race
>>335537880
But he was given that crown for a reason, what a selfish asshole.
>>335537812
>kathe and frampt
>same voice actor
>this is found in the firelink graveyard near frampt
I've never seen anyone else pick up on this?
>>335537705
>Usurpation ending
>good
Now this is snake propaganda. Londor are explicitly the puppets of the serpents, and Kaathe in particular. That "age of humanity" is a crock of shit fed to you by said serpent and Aldia.
Why do people blame the flame that wavers and not the thing that wavers it?
>Series is called Dark Souls
>Pygmy uses the dark soul to create humanity.
>The series is a challenging series of obstacles
>A test of perserverance, skill and ingenuity.
>The game is literally about the human struggle, the struggle of the "Dark Souls", i.e. Humanity.
>Mfw just like the players with the games themselves, mankind in the game will cycle the universe until they find a way to overcome their hollow nature, becoming stronger and better than before.
>Mfw the argument of linking vs not linking is just another example of Humanity struggling to find the best way to beat the boss of mortality, meaninglessness and hollowing.
>>335537806
no nito is literally just a skeleton, the ones you see around him aren't physically attached to him. He just wears them like armor.
>>335538026
Kind of hard blaming the natural force of entropy.
>>335538042
They've already beaten mortality, as long as you have the will to live you will respawn sane.
>>335538104
Nah he's a dedicated skeleton cosplayer.
>>335538104
>not just joining the gravelords and siding with based nito for all time
He is the only lord soul owner who still has any sort of mind to him. I think he is the best option.
>>335537705
End of fire ending suggests the embers will come back and eventually reach vessels and everything goes back, only now those lords fuck your shit up.
You can't end the fire permanently, nor the dark, period. The world itself will conspire to keep those things going for its own sick amusement after Gwyn, as Aldia said, commited the first sin. The whole point of the series is realising you can't go back, accept it, but still realise one should keep fulfilling their porpuse, whatever you think it is.
If there is an actual way out, and I mean for most of the world and not specific individuals, no one said so.
>>335535903
Hollows are fully sentient.
Londor is made up entirely of hollows, and they wear special rings to disguise themselves when dealing with other folks.
Hollows in all 3 games fight with weapons and a speciic fighting style, back off and drink estus when hurt, use items like firebombs, or set traps.
Hollows are entirely sentient, they just don't take kindly to you non-hollow folk.
>>335532020
>walk 2 feet in catacombs, go back to firelink
this is the problem, the quest autofails if you go to the catacombs
>>335538026
because blaming time for making stuff fall apart is stupid
>>335535903
Yes it is explained
They want to steal your humanity
They dont attack other hollows because they dont have any
>>335538273
>tfw can't beat the game without facing my bro
You'd think a guy who dedicates himself to death in a deathless country would be worshipped as a savior.
How did Dancer have a hard life?
>>335530559
Pain is just in peoples heads too an electrical impulse just like the ones that make games "exist".
>>335538273
>Cower in his catacombs like a little bitch while waiting for the world to end
What an example to follow.
>>335538425
so why do they attack you endlessly in ds1 & 2 even when you're fully baconized and have 0 huge manitees?
>>335538273
>sitting in his coffin because he got BTFO by fucking PINWHEEL
>My face when /v/ didn't take the best ending
Why set yourself on fire or be the lord of the faggots when you can just walk off with the first flame?
>>335538475
Yeah but does every character in the video game have a functioning brain which can produce said electrical impulses that cause them pain? No
>>335536420
Actually it is possible that their mere unchanging existence was the block. It seems like there is only X amount of life in the world. Maybe by living the way they were, the dragons were hoarding life an minimizing the amount of other life forms that could be on the planet.
Perhaps they are meant to grow and live eternal during the dark times with the undead and etc, and only when it is finally time for an age of fire do they get killed off to release life into the world.
I don't know, there is a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense but hidden behind "SO DEEP", but maybe the dragons were meant to live so they could die. Maybe once more people start dying off in the new age of darkness dragons will start living again.
They never killed off the one, last TRUE Eternal Dragon that was sitting in that nest in DS1, right?
>>335532020
1: When you first meet him in firelink
2: 2 Hollowing
3: 6 Hollowing
4: 12 Hollowing
5: 16 Hollowing
You turn wrinkly at 15 Hollowing, and that's when Yoel determines you are properly hollowed and is done drawing out your strength.
>>335538468
See
>>335535490
Was forced to be Pontiff's personal whore.
>>335538468
was part of the irithyll royal family before the pontiff came and fucked everything up
then she was made a "dancer"
(that's a polite way of saying sex slave)
So does the cycle end if you choose the hollow lord ending? I mean the flame exists within you and is no longer influencing the world right?
So this is the best ending no? Save for the fact that everyone becomes an ugly hollow.
Is there no greater feeling than helping a summoner in need?
>>335538584
Player characters are only truly hollow when theygive up playing forever
This is entry level stuff mate
>>335538316
Hollows follow a sloth path of degredation. They start as just undead. Then they become more mindless and violent. Over time they wear less armor, and weapons, until eventually just rags. The oldest just go mad.
>>335538425
All hollows carry humanity it's just a rear drop from them. So that dosen't add up.
>>335538584
cuz it's a video game and it would be boring if nobody attacked you
>>335538595
because of the line in the very beginning of the game that specifically says you yourself can't even do anything with the first flame. The only ending that will have any meaning as an unkindled will be to rule over the hollows.
Do you think we would ever see a souls game before everything went to shit or where everything completely fixed?
I love the souls series but theres a constant nagging always, and its mostly because of me wanting to see these giant cities filled with people and not shit that wants to slaughter you.
>>335538587
They never really explained how pinwheel pulled it off, its also a theory that pinwheel wasnt fighting with his full power since he was using his magic elsewhere.
>>335538495
Would you rather be firewood?
>>335538669
>you do literally all the work for them
>host 'helps' by occasionally hitting for mediocre damage but mostly stays far far away
>>335535654
I was more upset about the giant blacksmith being dead in anal rodeo than sif
Sif just died really fucking fast so I'm not sure I even saw the limping
>>335538783
Rats also give humanity but they arent humans
Definition of a hollow is someone who has lost every scrap of their humanity
>>335538802
Problem with that is if the game takes place before the flames start to fade, if you die that's it. You can't come back because you arent undead.
>>335538791
Can I get a good wife at least? This why that ending puts me off, Kaathe never forced some shit tier bitch on me.
>>335538617
Neither can your brain, it needs an input. Characters in the game react negatively when hit just like your brain when something is hit which you call pain.
I agree. You should NOT link the fire.
>>335538669
People who summon for Nameless King, Artorias, Manus (only summon acceptable is Sif), Gwyn, and Soul of Cinder are humongous faggots and need to die
>>335538923
>Rats also give humanity but they arent humans
You do know that's because they eat human corpses right?