>SAVING ANOR LONDO ALONE
>SAVING ANOR LONDO ALONE
>SAVING ANOR LONDO ALONE
>>335273046
>>335273046
Haven't payed the game, did it turn out that he did nothing wrong?
>>335273835
Nah, he still ate people
>>335273835
Bitchtits stayed in his post while Ornstein didn't do shit. Not that he helped much but he tried.
>>335273835
he was still an asshole, but according to his hammer
>Twisted great Hammer associated with Smough, the last knight to remain at his post, guarding the ruined cathedral.
he apparently got knighted by gwyndolin or someone at some point
ornstein got bored and took off looking for nameless king, smough stayed till the bitter end
>>335274240
>>335274105
So it actually wasn't Ornstein in the DaS1 fight?
that's fucking dumb, who the fuck did we fight in the first game? why is Miyazaki retconing his own story?
>>335274362
No and it wasn't Ornstein in DaS2 either.
Get ready, because in DaS4 you'll see Ornstein again and DaS3 Ornstein will get retconned
>>335274362
it was either an illusion from gwyndolin or you didnt actually kill him, though where his soul came from who knows...
supposedly dead entities coming back seems to happen a lot.
>>335274362
>Teleport behind Ornstein
>Stab him with my +10 Dark Uchigatana
>"Heh, nuffing person, Al."
>It was actually a hologram
>This happens again in DSII
>>335274531
what story? souls games are just a mishmash of cryptic, incoherent tidbits that some drunk nip pulled out of his ass
>drops his fucking SOUL
>it was just an illusion guys :^)
>>335274550
>>335274565
>>335274778
>4 knights of Gwyn
>3 of them ded after their first appearance
>Ornstein still rocking in the thrd game
HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT?
>>335274936
Because he likes to play hide and seek like a faggot.
>>335274936
Considering he dies in every single game, he's more like the series Kenny than anything.
>>335274919The soul was an illusion
>>335273046
So uh, I know Ornstein's armor is with The Nameless King but where is he exactly?
>>335274531
From my understanding, which won't make this sound any less dumb, Ornstein in DS1 is an illusion like Gwynevere is. In DSII, I think it was supposed to be someone simply in Ornstein's armor, not actually Ornstein. After that, I guess Ornstein finally found out that his king's son was a gross dragon-fucker and killed himself.
>>335275029
either dead, or he gave up and became a bum
I'm going to pretend he became sword master saber
Maybe Ornstein is undead, and every time you kill him he comes back because he's justtrying to get his souls back from you
>>335274919
He carries souls the same way Chosen Undead does.:^)
>>335273046
Timon was busy trying to bring back Gwyn's son anddying trying
>>335274531
>why is Miyazaki retconing his own story
Hasn't nobody figured out the story to DS1 yet?
>>335273046
He was a glutton for man meat
>>335274531
Gwyndolin was running the illusion show you fucking mongoloid
>>335275178
But who WOULDN'T fuck a dragon?
>>335274240
I think it's just history fusing Executioner Smough and Knight Ornstein as a single character.
>>335275003
I'm more surprised about the time frame his life implies. He's the dragonslayer, meaning the original stone dragons kind of dragonslayer, so he has been around since before the age of fire, that's a fucking long time ago from the perspective of DaS 3
>>335274936
Anor Londo was merely a setback.
>>335275457
then explain how he dropped a soul you chromosome hoarding troglodyte
I just figured it was an unreliable narrator.
We know that Ornstein and Smough were the last two at their posts in DaS, but since thousands of years or so have passed, perhaps the story is now that only Smough was there and Ornstein has been forgotten.
>>335275616
Illusory soul
>>335275020
You bastards!
>>335275462
I wouldn't. They're the natural enemy to both Man and the prosperity of the world brought on by the First Flame.
>Not being a miracle-bro
>Not linking the First Flame
>"Muh dark age and '''''''natural''''''' order of the world."
>/v/ likes Smough now
Neo /v/, ladies and gentlemen
>>335274240
>guarding the ruined cathedral
For what? From what?
>>335275207
Ah, fair enough.
>>335274936
>BANG BANG, Got you!
>Nuh-uh, You missed!
He's basically "That kid"
>>335275616
>Gwyndolin makes an illusion of Ornstein
>Mashes some souls together to he can actually pack some punch
>Player kills the illusion and gets the soul
>Assumes it's Ornstein's.
>>335273046
Smough confirmed for best knight.
Gwyn`s 4 knights were fucking useless posers.
>>335275852
>you get his ring too
>it's specifically stated to be his soul
>>335274362
It was, he just fucked off eventually, leaving fattie to guard on his own.
>>335273046
I wonder if he and aldrich hung out. I mean, they both liked eating people, maybe they could put their differences aside and just munch on some undead.
What if they're both undead? We killed them, they came back, Ornstein said "fuck this, I'm out", and left Smough there
>>335275896
>Gwyn`s 4 knights were fucking useless posers.
Gough did his job and retired peacefully.
Artorias was a failure
Who was the last knight of DMB?
>>335274240
You get Smough's hammer by killing Ornstein first and leaving Smough for last.
Smough hammer in DaS says nothing about being the last knight so if anything it's just this >>335275605.
>>335275743
>"guarding the ruined cathedral"
If it's DS1, Ornstein and Smough kept you from meeting Gwynevere. This could be for two reasons:
1. They don't want anyone exposing the illusion that Gwynevere is
2. They see themselves as the "test" the Chosen Undead must face before receiving directions from Gwynevere to link the First Flame.
![deacon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M2Cv8ix.jpg "deacon[1].jpg")
>>335275743
>For what? From what?
aldritch's followers
and presumably pontiff's, if he is in cahoots with aldritch
>>335273046
>In DaS the player killed Ornstein first
>Smough is like "nigga, gib me dat magic"
>Smough died soon after
>Smough gets "Yeah, I totally was the last KNIGHT protecting this place...for about 3 minutes"
>>335276202
I always thought Mario & Luigi were just "employed" by the homoboy.
>>335275896
Artorias and Ciaran maybe, but the other two got fucked over. Gough was good at his job but not exactly bright and got pranked into retirement, and Ornstein was told to sit on his ass and guard a door while everything else went to shit and he wasn't allowed to help despite being the leader of the knights.
>>335276186
he wasn't a knight in DS1, his hammer says he was in 3
and that doesnt mean one of the four knights of gwyn, all those lowly silver and black knights are also knights
gwyndolin probably knighted smough some point after 1. probably for not wandering off because things got boring
The flow of time is twisted and convoluted with heroes of ages past fading in and out. Just because you killed Ornstein in dark souls 1 doesn't mean some instances of him wouldn't survived into 2 and so on. Not to mention the whole reincarnation thing propagating great souls through the ages. Nameless king met the guy and is still likely in some way a reincarnation of Ornstein.
>>335276367
No, Ornstein was one of Gwyn's Four Knights. He lived to serve Gwyn's family, but Smough was just an executioner who had no loyalty ties to anyone.
>>335276543
he was A knight just not one of Gwyn's four knights
>>335276202
they were a test
gwyndolin wanted someone to rekindle the flame, that's why he created the gwynevere illusion to tell you to get the lordvessel.
O+S are to keep out unworthy riffraff
>>335275462
I was fighting that boss like 4 hours yesterday..
that stupid double twirl attack was the only thing I couldn't get use to.
>>335274240
Ornstein literally lost all his friends and was made to stay with a homicidal maniac. I'd have left too.
>>335276472
Ciaran was an assassin, history wasnt suppose to know her deeds.
Arty was the only idiot of the group. Bought into his own hype and thought he could go save an entire kingdom from the abyss.
>>335276613
I know about that, but I always thought Ornstein basically stayed behind when Gwynevere etc. left.
>>335275429
Not exactly true. He wouldn't go and murder people for meat. It was stated he just crushed up the bones of fallen enemies into his food. More like a seasoning :]
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Meoq3sv.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
ORNSTEIN'S ARMOUR IS IN ALL 3 FUCKING GAMES AND IT STILL DOESN'T HAVE THE FUCKING PLUME WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK FROM?!
>>335276613
enough loyalty to get knighted and not bail to the point of being the last one fighting off aldritch's minions
Ornstein wasn't even in the game. Dragonslayer armor was.
>>335276351
Aldritch wasn't even born yet though
How can Ornstein be real if our souls aren't real
>>335276543
Smough died in 1.
At most, they "knighted" him afterwards for his service in defending Anor Londo.
>>335276905
It's hishair
>>335276905
It was his hair.
>>335276780
Artorious didn't actually have any hype till after he died. His legendary feats were all the work of the chosen undead. He was merely assigned a job that he cocked up because he had no dark resist.
>>335276985
Ornstein didnt die during the battle in 1, so you can presume neither did smough
call it illusions or retcons or whatever
>>335274936
>implying implications
you murked Ornstein in DaS2. The Abyss had found him first
>>335277019
holy shit
>>335277007
he didnt defend anor londo from shit in 1
gwyndolin wanted a worthy undead to get past them, there was no defense, just a test
>in DaS4 you ARE Ornstein
>>335277007
>died defending the ruined cathedral
the cathedral wasnt ruined in 1, just dark
the cathedral was ruined in 3, most likely by aldritch's invasion
I'm kind of disappointed at how easy Dragonslayer Armour was in DS3.
>tfw burned out on DS3 after 46 hours
>>335277304
>>335274362
Get ready for...
ORNSTEIN'S SOULS: THE ABYSS WAR
>>335277304
nigga imma pre order
>>335275934
You get Gwyndolin's soul too yet there he is in the third game starring in the Japanese remake of the Blob when you arrive.
Gwyndolin is going to appear in the fourth game and you fight two Ornsteins at once, calling it now.
WHERE THE HELL DO YOU FIND ORNSTEIN'S ARMOR, IVE LOOKED EVERYWHERE FOR IT, BUT NOBODY SELLS IT AND I CAN'T FIND IT
>>335276813
Judging from where you find his armor in DS3, I'd imagine he left soon after to search for Gwyn's son.
>>335276949
>Trying to make Smough out to be a good guy
Fatty got what he deserved.
Why does FROM have such a huge boner for this guy?
>>335277304
>You start out believing that you are a dragonslayer
>On your quest you find out you're THE dragonslayer Ornstein
>in the end it's revealed that you were just an illusion
>>335277304
I would preorder that desu
>Finally a game with good spears
AW YISSSSSSSSSS
>>335275687
>mfw smough second phase is canon
>mfw he smashes ornsteins corpse and completely absorbs it to go super saiyan
>mfw ornstein is forgotten to history due to his body being effectively erased
>>335277540
Time is convoluted and infinite parallel universes are the canon. You can all stop pretending there's a canon or that anything matters.
>>335277540
killing Gwyndolin in DaS1 is non-canon
>>335275727
>believing the lies of BOTH the serpentine jew and the 1%
>>335277552
You mean the animated armor boss?
>>335277578
Because he's cool.
I wish you could get his pants without the metal skirt
>>335277540
Ornstein versus ilussion Ornstein + Dark DaS II Ornstein.
Final boss: Ornstein's possesed armor.
>>335277615
>body being effectively erased
>body literally found in ds3
Ornstein is just a meme.
Ornstein is just whoever wears the dragonslayer armor.
>>335277548
Dragon's Peak, which you get to by using the Way of the Dragon pose after fighting the Consumed King. You have to go to sewers before the Profaned Capital and use it where you see a bunch of dead people doing the same gesture.
>>335276083
Only humans go undead
Ornstein was sent on a mission by Gwyn to bring back his son
Why is it that when you ring the Bell in Archdragon Peak, it summons the Nameless King?
Why is it that they don't want you to do this (the developer messages warn that "if you want to follow the path of the dragon, do not ring the bell," and that "when the bell rings, everything fades")?
Why is it that ringing this damn bell pisses off the Firstborn so much that he attacks you on sight?
>>335277821
not true, rats and dogs do as well
So if they make a cyberpunk souls, will they have an Ornstein in it?
>>335277932
He's trying to nap.
>>335277676
>Peace and prosperity are bad just because they're temporary
Enjoy your toxic swamps and the Abyss erasing your kingdom.
>>335277736
That was just his spare set of armor, anon :^)
>>335278014
>implying that there's anything wrong with the Abyss
Untended Graves are oddly comfy
>implying that peace and prosperity are brought with Fire
>implying that civilizations won't resort to unspeakable atrocities to keep the flame lit
all of those people were sure having fun in the Church of the Deep, right?
>>335277023
Hoo boy.
>>335277932
There are actually two Bells of Awakening.
One's up above, in the Undead Church.
The other is far, far below, in the ruins at the base of Blighttown.
Ring them both, and something happens...
Brilliant, right?
>>335277898
>"Ornstein was sent on a mission by Gwyn to bring back his son"
>Gwyndolina never left
>He's literally one floor beneath where Ornstein and Smough are.
I don't think this theory holds.
>>335277821
Nameless King is hollow, you can see his hollow face if you look at him closely.
>>335277578
he's a pretty well designed character.
His reveal in DS1 (especially alongside Smough) was awesome.
Ornstein and Smough are basically the flagship enemies of Darksouls for being known for really upping the learning curve.
everything went downhill after DS1 though.
>>335277898
>Gwyn's firstborn is a badass but takes a liking to dragons
>Gwyn exiles him because degenerate dragon lover
>Gwyn sees his next son is a huge faggot
>Begs Ornstein to bring back his firstborn while he himself goes to guard the first flame
>>335274936
It has nothing to do with the fact that his armor is pure sex.
>>335276905
Wtf? I didn't get Ornteins armor in DS2? Is it DLC?
>>335273046
Why do these guys even attack you in DS1. The person they're guarding actually wants to meet you.
>>335278124
>Light the Flame
>People prosper for a while
>Go out of whack when prosperity starts to diminish
>Ignore the Flame
>All the bad shit doesn't get better
>Probably just gets worse
Oh look it's another "lore thread circlejerk" where anime watching idiots make up entire essays based on throwaway one sentence item description only to be proven wrong in the sequels but they're still in denial about it
>>335278208
I think he means the good son.
>>335278261
Gwyn was long burned when the Firstborn was exiled, he left Sunlight Blade on Gwyn's grave just before leaving
>>335278368
>implying that the Age of Dark is that bad
Londor is a pretty stable civilization. It gets a bad rap because not muh darkness
>>335276905
>>335278315
Well presumably they're a decent test if they're both illusions and even if fatty was real no matter what he was a man eating asshole nobody liked.
>>335278235
>he's a pleb that dislikes duke's archives
>>335274936
Gotta have one recurring boss. Guess Big M went with him over Belfry Gargoyles.
>>335277724
Sub-final boss is a Gwyndolin duo, where one Gwyndolin teleports around shooting sorceries around while the other is swole as fuck and constantly up your trumpet with a greatclub. When you kill them it turns out they were both holograms and the real Gwyndolin teleports behind you
he has cancer and begs you to kill him because it hurts so fucking much
>>335278153source
>>335278643
he's not a boss in this one though
>>335278643
Dragonslayer armor isn't Ornstein. It looks nothing like his armor and his actual armor is found at his corpse in Archdragon Peak.
It's just some other Dragonslayer shmuck
>>335278698
why are you describing Lothric and Lorian? They're already in the game
>>335273046
Is his armor usable or is it too heavy?
I haven't reached this point in the game yet but I like how grotesque it is.
>>335278848
His armor and the dragonslayer shield makes the Nameless King fight a cakewalk
>get to Firelink Shrine
>find Untended Graves and Dark Firelink Shrine
>fetch all of the Lords and get teleported to ANOTHER Firelink Shrine -- Flameless Firelink Shrine
how many fucking Shrines are there???
>>335278602
They would be fun for pvp if the enemies didn't respawn. As it is, it's a small, awkward map full of pointlessly tough midgets and ranged enemies. If I could skip one endgame area I'd skip that before Lost Izalith.
>>335278948
Dark firelink was a clever little hidden area made by easy reuse of assets.
Third firelink is just their version of the true deep firelink shrine Frampt takes you to but presumably they wanted to reuse more shit so they just copy pasted the interior again.
>>335278825
It was an illusion.
>>335279092
also, why the fuck is it that when you fetch all 5 Lords, they just portal all of their Strength into you? I thought the point was that they were supposed to Link the Flame, and that Unkindled can't do it
so was the world better off before the lords found their respective lord souls as seen in the intro of DaS1?
apparently when dragons reigned there still existed humans, giants, gwyn-race big guys and various other entities and they battled it out
did the flame that needs to be rekindled exist at that point?
or is the new canon that the flame always existed and the lord souls are just something it manifests in order for beings to kindle it?
how do dragons and their age factor into the timeline?
Wait so what the fuck is the Dragonslayer Armor fight?
You literally get Ornsteins armor at dragons peak.
>>335279190
They did link the flame.
They gave you their power to do it.
>>335279190
They were meant to link the fire. But they fucked off instead. So the flame raised all types of ash to become unkindled to bring said lords back to the throne.
>>335279216
And what the hell are those things helping him?
>>335279216
probably another dragonslayer :^)
>start playing DaS1 because everyone is playing 3 now and i finally want to get into it
>struggle a bit against Ornstein and Smouth but besides that i was doing fine
>read that Solaire my bro can die if do shit wrong
>try my best to get him not killed
>at the end the bug still got him
What did i do wrong?
Was it because i explored the area around the shortcut earlier or was it because i used Solaire as assist for the Centipede fight?
>>335274936
>Gwyn fucks off
>Ornstein the captain of the four knights of Gwyn is left guarding "Gwynevere"
>Artorias goes to fight the Abyss by himself
>His waifu follows him and the giant too because he knows bitch can't survive on her own
And thus one was raped by the abyss, other died out of depression and some asshole put dirt in the helm of Gough making him useless.
Basically Ornstein was alive because he actually followed his orders. Not like it matters at one point he either realized shit was all illusions or that what he do was pointless, leaving fatso behind who wanted to be a royal knight more than anything.
>>335279215
while the Dragons were still around everything was just mindless Hollows. Finding Souls is what lets them be more than that.
Flame fades and needs to be rekindled. Lord Souls =/= Lords of Cinder
>>335278540
He simply use the bones of every enemy he defeated to add some taste to his meal and that fact alone tainted his reputation.
>>335278786
Looks like Arai Hime. It's not Ornstein, though, it's her oc.
so fucking lame, i always had it in my head as ornstein was just holding on to his kingdom and his post despite everything going to shit. Now it turns out hes a traitor and the crazy fucker smough is the loyal one.
>>335279354
they're called Pilgrim Butterflies.
Presumably, they're what the Pilgrims turn into, and the stones that they wear on their backs are meant to suppress that transformation
>>335274936
Actually there are some clues that Ciarian is still alive. I'm still hoping she will pop up in one of the expansions.
>>335279325
they didnt all link the flame
Lothric didn't because he was a pussy, and aldritch didnt because he was an asshole
they got honorary lord title because they're big powerful souls to kindle the fire with
Okay so, what if all the Ornsteins you fight are a family?
They are a family if dragonslayers?
>>335279581
"They did link the fame in the sense they gave you their power to link the flame"
I thought that was pretty clear from my post
>>335279495
Oh, shame. Thanks.
>>335279580
im pretty sure she's long dead
didn't artorias of the abyss take place way before the events of das1
>>335279407
you can only save solaire from the bug by taking the backdoor into izalith
you just kill the glowy bug without ever seeing the lost izalith location enter nameplate thing, it's that simple
>>335279407
You have to be +2 in the izalith covenant or some shit. Dont go to izalith after the centipede fight. You have to give The spider bitch, queelags sister like 80 humanities and then you can save soliare by taking the shortcut to lost izalith
>>335273046
is the lore to this game almost non existent or am i just an idiot?
ds3 lore is pretty lackluster
>>335279581
Aldritch linked the flame. Not because he wanted to but because they forced him to.
>>335279092
Was wondering, has anyone tried putting the Cinders on the thrones in dark firelink?
>>335279215
>The intro to DS1 says the world didn't have heat and cold, life and death, and a lot of other dualities before the First Flame came to be
>The First Flame, which was Gwyn's, was ignited by Gwyn himself. Only after Gwyn dies does it need to be rekindled by others worthy of the title "Lord."
>Dragons are old as shit and got rekt by Gwyn with only a few remaining in lost parts of the world. Granted the Nameless King is still around from DS1 to DS3, it's suggested that age really isn't a factor here. Dragons and Gods are practically immortal, along with the Giants.
>>335279581
>>335279680
No, the Super Lothric Bros AREN'T Lords of Cinder. The game makes it very clear that they rejected that title when they refused to Link the Flame
>>335279407
solaire is obsessed with something. in this game you don't give friends what they're obsessed about because it leads to their ruin. the only ones who work the opposite is the blacksmiths. somehow, their obsession with smithing keeps them from going hollow, maybe because it's an actual trade that keeps their minds busy, not just an obsession. who knows..
>>335279734
>>335279741
That's what i did.
After the Centipede fight i did go back and paid the spider woman humanity to unlock the shortcut.
But when i opened it Solaire was there and brainwashed.
>>335279723
yes but ornstein was one of the knights of gwyn with artorias, and not only did he survive from AOTA to DS1, but apparently survived past that to the DS3 era
>>335279407
If you enter LI from the centipede arena and the bug is still alive, Solaire gets the bad ending. To my knowledge, there are only three ways to avoid this and all of them suck- give 30 humanity to Fair Lady to open the LI shortcut, use a poison cloud pyromancy to kill the bug through the closed shortcut door, or don't talk to Solaire at all until you've found and ganked the bug.
But eh, that's what NG+ is for.
DARK SOULS 3 DLC
You fight a stronger reincarnation of Amnus, and before the fight, you can summon All 4 Knights, from the past.
>>335279787
i thought it was obvious since they weren't even in the opening cinematic
>>335275178
Some theories suggest that Ornstein was either killed by the nameless king or transformed into the Storm Ruler, hence finding his armor after the fight
>>335279786
Gwyn didn't create the First Flame you fool, he only became Gwyn in the first place after finding his soul in it's bed
You fucking "git gud" soulsfags are so dumb i bet you froth just from SEEING a question mark?
>>335277898
Nah it's says he just fucked off, he either went looking for him so he linked the fire, to join him or to fight him to settle the score for betraying everyone.
The fact his armor is just lying there on the floor and the scenario of Ornstein fighting his master, former comrade and lord is the darker scenario, am going with that one.
>>335279787
They're lords of cinder in the sense they did their job of linking the fire through you even if that means you literally took their ashes against their will. I mean I'm agreeing with you here but I don't get the need to ignore the dumb little twist there.
Here's something I thought about while fighting O&S again yesterday:
If we kill Ornstein first, Smough smashes his body and gains electric powers. Not too out of the ordinary.
If we kill Smough first, Ornstein becomes fuckhueg but really stays mostly the same.
I always thought it was weird that Ornsteins "power up" was just becoming bigger, especially since Smough wasn't this 60ft colossus of a boss, just taller than Ornstein. The way I see it now is that if Ornstein in DS1 was an illusion like we're kinda guessing, then it makes sense; the increase in size is an increase in power from absorbing the remaining energy from Smough's corpse, and it's doing the whole "I've powered up and now I'm huge" thing.
>>335279756
Read item descriptions, and think about locations.
It's not that the lore is 'almost non existent', just extremely vague and open ended. That's what makes it more fun to talk about.
>>335279215
Well first off Lords of Cinder =/= Lord Souls.
The very start of recorded history is Gwyn (and the other lord) taking the lord souls out of the first flame. Presumably that alone makes them linked to one another but at no point do the lord souls ever actually factor into interacting with the first flame beyond you fighting the guys who have them to prove you are tough.
Now grant you there should be a clear reason for the first flame existing but every universe needs its beginning and I'm willing to not ask the question of "what was before the age of ancients/where did the first flame come from" if the answer is just "maybe nothing who cares".
The age of ancients was pretty "nothing". Every bad and good thing from DaS comes from the opposite concepts that the flame gave us. Heat and cold, life and death, etc. So without the first flame everything is a tree, dragon, or mindless tree hollow zombie thing but at the same time that's not necessarily a bad thing.
The introduction of the flame brings basically every big concept to the world so it's both a good and bad thing I guess. In an ideal world the world would never turn to a zombie hellhole but it does so to say everyone would be better of just doing nothing rather than suffering isn't really wrong.
hey
dreamchaser's ashes holds the pendant
also a question, do we need to kill obreck for yuria to give us the blade or will it be enough if we just wait for obreck to die in the archives and give his ashes then?
Am I the only one who fought Yhorm without the stormruler?
>>335276780
>Assassin
Assassin for fucking what? If you could assassinate dragons they wouldn't have been a problem to being with.
>>335280387
ggaagahahahhaha le git gud mme hhahahahahah "GIT GUD"
>>335279421
>and some asshole put dirt in the helm of Gough making him useless.
Except no. That fucking character was the most badass guy there was, shooting dragons from the sky blind.
Otherwise, yeah.
>>335280387
yes you are literally the only one in the whole world
>>335277376
He wasn't hard in two
>>335280398
dispatching threats to the Crown after Gwyn's rule was firmly established.
>>335277606
I see that you get boners for spears, I too, have a thing for spears
>Dark Souls has a lot of meme spam be it shitty or good
>Dark Souls 2 only got shitposted and called garbage
Is there anything fun about Dark Souls 3 so far?
>>335279723
Actually there is a clue she is still alive. Her ring is found on the Farrons grave in Untended Graves. Doesn't mean 100% she is still alive but who else would leave that ring on that type of grave. She loved Artorias.
>>335280641
He had the power of a god no one was a threat to him. He had so much power he gave it away and still had a shit ton to spare. That makes no sense
Is there any mace in this game? Seems like it goes from wooden clubs to great hammers with no in between.
Currently using the blacksmith hanmmer, though it's not very strong
>>335279421
I thought Artorias actually stopped the Abyss from spreading to places other than Oolacile when he went there?
>>335280794
Did you play DaS1
>>335280789
Cleric starts with a mace
>>335280789
Try Mace, Drag Hammers, or Great Mace.
>>335280859
All the time, but only ever played the dlc once because I don't feel like going through those areas again.
I've forgotten a lot.
>>335279940
>>335280038
>Ornstein was the first knight of NK
>Ornstein fighting style is literally NK style
>Fought together against the dragons
>One day he suddenly says fuck you to everyone and fucks off with the dragons
>Ornstein now must guard the cathedral
>The other three knights die because abyss shenanigans
>The royal knights are no more
>"Fuck this, I want answers"
>>335274919
You get souls from the giant sentinels too and they're illusions.
Is Giant ''The Legend'' Dad in Dark Souls 3?
>>335280794
He still was raped by the abyss in the end m8, did you look at his arm?
>>335280778
not to him personally, he was busy being on fire in the kiln
to the general rule of the gods/anor londo
>>335281150
>Implying anyone would Question the gods daugther
>Implying anyone is a threat or Orenstin or Smough
Even Gywndolin is more powerful then here there are no threats they couldn't handle and needed and a assassin. She is 100% useless
>>335281110
he's the final boss
>>335281150
That wasn't until the end of the age of fire She would have no purpose during the dragon hunting days or for most of his rule.
>>335281294
What about the Occult weapons, used for killing Gods
>>335280794
He near instantly got taken over by the abyss and is a walking bag of pus and black sludge by the time you are transported back.
Which really is the entire point of his character.
>Oh look Artorias was such a good knight what a hero
>He walked right into the abyss that good Artorias hero man what a monster
>He had an anime wolf protect his grave and you have to perform secret techniques to get his sword what a legend and hero
Then after a game's worth of dicksucking you get there and any heroic last stand he might have had is irrelevant because the hero you've spent the entire game being told is an amazing knight is all fucked up and beaten by the time you meet him. Nobody in Dark Souls makes it out intact no matter how much you're told they're great.
Happened with Gwyn, happedn with Artorias, happened with Vendrick, and a lot of the lesser knights too. Only game it really doesn't happen with is DaS3.
I mean right at the very very very start they suck in Lords of Cinder dick but that's very quickly ignored for the most part.
I got invaded by someone named THE LEGEND HAS RETURNED (or something like that?) and got SUPER excited that I was about to get rekt by Giant Dad.
Turns out it was just some katana fag.
Biggest disappointment in DS3.
>>335281110
He invades you right before the final boss.
>>335275605
>fusing some literally who executioner with one of the four knights of gwyn who's been around since the dawn of the age of fire
if there was any fusing it would be the other way, people would start thinking ornstein ground up bones for seasoning
>>335281421
They were locked away in a pocket dimension
>>335278014
I'll take the hope of embers amidst the dark over however things are going to get fucked next cycle.
Friendly reminder Smough was not a fatty, and claiming otherwise is bullying!
>>335278215
So was Gwyn in 1 but I just attributed that to burning in the first flame
so I dunno whatGwynfaraam's deal was
>>335281850
Why would you wear armor that makes you look like a dumb fatass
>>335281850
he was still a manlet who was eating people
>>335280542
>>335280490
I wasn't trying to brag. it was horrible, I was just wondering if anyone else missed the stomruler entirely becauseI am an idiot.
>>335277026
but he had already gone on Abyss Cleansing incursions before. He already had the abysswalker ring or whatever and he already had the cleansing greatshield, the only thing that went wrong with the cleansing trip in Oolacile was OOPS HELLO ITS THE FUCKING ORIGINATOR OF THE DARK SOUL HERE TO FUCK UP YOUR DAY
If Manus wasn't there it would've been a walk in the park for Arty
>>335280038
Ornstein's helmet has always been so weird, I assume his eyes are at the level of the teeth? Honestly the variant in >>335277578 makes much more sense
>>335281850
Here I assume the eyes are right under the chin?
>>335280241
Wasn't age of ancients the dragons? The soul just made gwyn and company able to take up arms against them
>>335282012
>Manlet
>same size as orinstein and bigger then Artioas and gywn
Nigga wut
>>335282187
manlet by giant sizes
Dark Souls 1 is a giant manlet gauntlet
>>335282128
>If the boss of the abyss wasn't there it would of been ok with him
So he can handle trash but not the boss? Weakest knight confirmed
Why did the Abyss Watchers form an Artorias fan club instead of an Ornstein one?
Ornstein actually did his job
>>335282187
>same size as orinstein
>bigger then Artioas
But Artorias is taller than Ornstein.
>>335282169
Yes. It was the only point pre age of fire/dark we ever get a glimpse of with the trees, crags, and dragons being the big noticeable things about it.
I mean we're never told why the dragons are special but they are so whatever.
>>335282365
Calling bull shit on that he looks smaller not by much but smaller then orin does when fighting him.
>>335281421
This. Didn't Havel try to kill the gods with an occult club?
>>335281850
hes a big guy
>>335282356
edgelords just like artorias himself
>>335278484
>pretty stable sivelatzation
If you call going around hollow and pretending nothing is wrong while making the once that eventually do go mad explode and truning into gaint flying never sytems "stable" then sure it's a pretty comfy.
Can't fucking wait for the DLC to see how fucked their city looks
>>335282489
it was a plant by seath to get havel exiled (locked in that tower) so havel the magic hater would stop meddling in seath's crazy experiments
>>335282456
>Calling bull shit on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ohvvDo7no
>>335277821
Isn't Gwyn practically a hollow?
>>335281940
Penance for his cannibalism.
>>335282356
Because, as Legend has it, Artorias defeated Manus and contained the Abyss.
>>335282784
not in the same way as humans, but he is sort of like that on account of having basically burned his essence to kindle the fire.
only humans can carry the darksign, but other things seem to be able to turn undead in response to the emergence of undeath when the fire fades
I'm starting to think Ornstein abandoned his post to impersonate Gwyn as Nameless King and fathered Yorshka with Priscilla. Yorshka claims Gwyn is her father but Gwyn probably wouldn't get it on with no dragon. His armor is in Archdragon Peak because he ditched it to play Gwyn dress up. Is there any evidence that refutes this?
>>335282356
>>335282553
>Ornstein
>Shining golden lion man with a spear of lightning
>No nonsense guy, does his job plus hunts dragons for fun
>Artorias
>Dark tragic wolf man wearing a hood and weilds a giant sword
>Walks the path of the darkness, his tortured existence devoured by the abyss
Try to guess whcih one edgy people will flock to.
>>335274919
gwyndolin's illusions are strong, gwynevere literally provides light for the whole city
but that's just pulling stuff out of my ass to cover up from's fanservice
>>335281752
>some literally who executioner
smough was as able and powerful as the 4 knights the ONLY reason he wasn't considered in the same regard as them is because he liked to make bonemeal
>>335282784Will be when im done with him
>>335281437
>Artorias is praised the entire game for being a fucking badass who walked into the abyss and stopped it from within
>turns out Artorias failed and the badass that stopped the abyss was actually you
>>335282997
What?
You kill Gwyn in DkS1, he doesn't show up again, so how could Ornstein be impersonating Gwyn?
Nameless King is confirmed Gwyn's First Born, and the Dragonslayer armor confirms that Ornstein was Nameless King's first knight who went out looking for the Nameless King.
Yorshka calling Gwyn her father could just be a religious thing, like christians say "Our Father, who hart in heaven".
With that said, I have no idea who Yorshka is, and there's no evidence whatsoever that even points us in a direction.
how do you pronounce smough?
>>335283031
I'm not saying Smough wasn't a badass, and I guess it's possible that he's been around as long as the knights
but I guess in my headcanon I always thought of him as some just really strong asshole warrior that showed up at anor londo for a job one day and they made him executioner, and by that point anor londo and the knights had been around for generations/centuries/whatever already. He certainly seems like he wouldnt be as popular in history as one of Gwyn's legendary four knights
Anyways I was really just responding to that one guy that insinuated that Smough's character would somehow engulf Ornstein throughout history.
>>335277743
This actually makes sense.
>>335283428
Smuff
>>335283349
>no evidence that points us in a direction
Are you fucking thick? She calls Gwendolyn her brother and gwenever her sister and Gwyn her father. There are items that specifically say Gwendolyn is her elder brother. Not some honorific, actual brother. Yorksha is a God and the only one left in anor Londo (unless you count Aldrich). Her father is undoubtedly Gwyn but her mother is debateble. It could very likely be Priscilla which would explain her exile to the painted world. Gwyn probably didn't want people to know he fucked a half dragon.
>>335283731
>There are items that specifically say Gwendolyn is her elder brother.
>Gwendolyn
anyway, point me to these items, because i've gone through the game twice and haven't seen such a thing.
>>335274362
The player revives countless times why can't ornstein or anyone else for that matter?
>>335282997
Except nameless king is gwyn's first born
Why does killing Gwyndolin do practically nothing, and leaves Hologram Ornstein and Smough and Gwynevere and the sun in anor londo?
>>335283428
smuh
>>335283428
smow
>>335277602
>Gwyndolin is the final boss
>just before you kill him your savedata gets deleted
>>335283994
What?
Killing Gwyndolin removes the sun from Anor Londo as well as Gwynevere.
Ornstein is still there because, let's not kid ourselves, Miyazaki did not think ahead. What he did in DaS3 is simply a retcon because he decided to include Gwyn's First Born, and thought it would be kind of lackluster if there was no story behind him and some other known character from Gwyn's era.
Pretending that there's some sort of explanation for DaS1 and DaS2's Ornstein is just silly.
>>335283428
smoff
as in scoff
