http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/04/22/tales-of-berseria-velvets-outfit-wont-be-censored-producer-thinks-fans-want-the-original-experience/
>"it is best for westerners to receive the same game experience, design, and content as the original Japanese version."
Pretty based
>>335259310
Baba not a shit.
No one's gonna play this kusoge anyways.
>>335259387
I fucking will
>tales of
has anyone even played those games?
lol
>>335259387
NEVER EVER
I don't get why people get soo happy when shit like this comes out uncensored, like yeah it's cool but why the fuck you acting like we are gonna be shown full on titts or nudity or even gore scenes?
Don't even know why shit like this would even get censored in the first place.
>>335259310
Cool
Not gonna make me play another Tales game again, though
The jap version was the censored one already
>>335259310
Nice. Now if only her costume didn't look so fucking stupid.
>>335259310
What's even there to censor? Velvet has no ass and her tits aren't even good either.
>>335259578
I dont care about nudity in games but for me censorship is bad, no game should ve censored and thats it
>>335259792
Shes rocking some serious curves in that pic
>>335259943
curves of a 12 year old boy lol
>>335259310
>MUH CENSORSHIP
If decide to play games based on whether they are "censored" or not, you are a fucking retard.
>dat cute girl
This game had better be good.
>>335259310
I'm sure the 8,000 people who will buy this in the West will be very happy
>>335259578
Because I'm not a cuck that's okay with censorship
Oh goodie, here's hoping they actually make the game better than the last 7 fucking games
>>335260332
Shame, you've missed some good games the past year.
>>335260517
Like?
>>335259792
>Velvet has no ass
Nigger detected
> and her tits aren't even good either.
Cowtits are overrated as fuck. Her breasts are the perfect size.
>>335260689
Street Fighter V and Star Ocean 5.
>>335260734
I asked for good games, anon
>>335260836
Then you have shit taste? Why are you on a Tales thread?
>>335259310
>Tales of Berseria confirmed for not getting censored
I can't believe a selling point even needs to be "uncensored" now, it should be a given not a feature.
On the plus, That is great news.
>>335260060
this
it's sad that artistic integrity is now newsworthy
>>335259310
It's going to be censored, they're just afraid of us being aware early and boycotting it.
>>335259387
https://youtu.be/agygkG0NCrc
The game looks great though.
>>335260891
M8, Street Fighter V came out unfinished, and Star Ocean ain't even here yet.
Any reason I should play zesty
>>335260732
She literally has no ass. It's Lightning bad
>>335261085
This.
>>335259310
I love how people are coming out and shitting on Nintendo and their censorship.
>>335261208
SFV is a great fighter with free content coming.
The console isn't region locked.
original developer doesn't get a say in the matter, if it's on Nintendo then you're in Reggie's world now
>>335261140
oh god the camera isn't retarded
thank God
>>335261225
>>335259363
> Baba not a shit.
Baba not the producer for Tales of Berseria.
>last good tales game was on PS2
why is it so hard for people to give up a franchise? I do it all the time, tons of games I absolutely loved would get shit sequels and then I write off the entire series from that point.
>>335261085
This hit me.
>>335260891
>Early Access Fighter V
>good taste
Come on now anon
>>335259310
>Tales of Berseria
Literally what?
>>335261476
Vesperia and Xillia 2 aren't on PS2
>>335259310
Day 1 buy because producer is BASED.
>>335259310
Will it have dual audio?
>>335261629
Zesteria had dual audio. It's a tossup at the moment.
>Producers/Developers now coming out and saying if their game is going to be censored
In a way, I'm thankful Nintendo decide to go full protective mother now. Cause now I don't need wait and find out last minute something has been censored.
>>335261085
this
>>335261629
I think so.I hope so.
>>335261629
Zestiria had it so it's most likely a yes.
>>335261629
>Tales of Symphonia Chronicles had dual audio
>Tales of Hearts R was jap only
>Tales of Zestiria had dual audio
You tell me?
>>335261208
>Star Ocean ain't even here yet.
u w0t m8?
>>335259310
We shouldn't even be having this conversation.
Censorship is always bullshit.
>>335261693
Yeah, so far we've now had Atlus USA come out and say Nintendo is gonna censor #FE, XSEED say Corpse Party isn't getting censored and now this news about Berseria, at least now we can know what games to avoid.
>>335259917
Every game is censored all the time. Just 99% of the time we don't see it because it's all internal development process or occurs after being submitted to ESRB.
Being censored during localization is no different from that.
These are mass market products, not some artist's vision. They all go through about a hundred layers of corporate evaluation before seeing the light of day. Things are changed around and revised constantly to be as inoffensive as possible.
The main character's costume likely went through tons of revisions itself.
>>335261878
How's the game anyway?
>>335262001
It's really similar to Star Ocean 1. It's a pretty average JRPG so far. Haven't finished it yet.
>"it is best for westerners to receive the same game experience, design, and content as the original Japanese version."
That's all I ever want, how is it that fucking hard?
Why even would it be censored? Like they are pretty tame.
>>335262001
From reviews it looks like a very unoriginal Star Ocean 3 clone with broken combat.
But being a clone of a good game isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>>335261989
>internal development
>Being censored during localization is no different from that.
it is completely different that's why it called censorship
>>335259387
I'll give it a chance. It already looks more interesting than Graces, Xillia, or Zestiria.
>>335262761
How is a corporate suit coming in and going "change this" during development any different than a corporate suit coming in before releasing the game in a new territory and going "change this"?
>>335259310
>>335259310
>>335259310
>>335259310
>>335259310
THERE LITERALLY HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE GOOD TALES GAME SINCE TEAM SYMPHONIA AND TEAM DESTINY WERE TWO SEPARATE DEV TEAMS.
TALES OF VESPERIA WAS THE LAST GOOD 3D TALES GAME WHILE TALES OF DESTINY REMAKE WAS THE LAST GOOD 2D TALES GAME.
>>335261393
This. The battle camera is the main reason I can't get into zestiria
>>335263015
Stay mad. I'm gonna buy it to support the no censorship program.
rose was a good girl desu
>>335260517
>>335260734
You're right. It is a shame because all they ever had to do was not censor the game.
>>335263228
did acid dissolve her pants or something
>>335261878
Dude, he means out in the US.
Besides... SO5 is 20 hours long. They really dropped the ball. Japan hated it.
>>335263015
>TALES OF DESTINY REMAKE WAS THE LAST GOOD 2D TALES GAME.
What is NDX
What is Keroro RPG
>>335263126
>I'm going to buy this kusoge to support the man who cuts out content to sell as DLC and make your games worse
>>335263015
Can you imagine what it's like not to not be able to enjoy things?
>>335263482
baba isn't working on Bears
>>335262929
>How is a corporate suit coming in and going "change this" during development
because we don't know who made that choice
>than a corporate suit coming in before releasing the game in a new territory and going "change this"?
we know who made this choice and why and now they are making us pay full price for a game we know has cut content
>>335263480
>What is NDX
untranslated spinoff with a cool class system but has dumbed down combat to accommodate a handheld
>What is Keroro RPG
frog game with rehashed tales of hearts DS combat
>>335263713
yoshi the guy working on berseria designed xillia and look at how bad that rushed game turned out.
>>335263908
Most Xillias problems were the result of being rushed out to meet an anniversary date. Berseria doesn't have that issue and is sharing assets due to being a prequel so it's not like they don't have enough time to make a game this time.
post best tales girl
>>335263789
>dumbed down combat
lmao it has more frame specific combos than any console Tales in forever.
Fucking /v/ says the most hilarious shit.
>>335259310
Looks awful desu.
>>335264730
Lailah
>>335261989
>Revisions are the same as censoring the final product
At least try when you are going to cook up a bait.
>>335264934
a shit.
>>335263015
Hearts R
>>335263015
ok
>>335259310
They tried pandering to the SJW western audience before and the backlash was pretty severe. Looks like tough lessons were learned.
But really all they have to do is change shit and say it's because of the desire of the designer and not because of outside influences it's not that hard.
>>335264934
>If I can get better, I want to get married ~ Miyu Matsuki
>>335259310
I wasn't that interested in it, but I'll buy it for that reason alone.
>>335259310
Why does she dress like that, imagine going to take a bath and have to put all that shit later
>>335265350
Stop
No please
>>335260732
low
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>>335264201
ok
>>335265667
Pirates don't bathe.
>>335265667
A man doesn't need to bathe to live, y'know.
>>335265007
Both are changes against the developer's intentions, I fail to see the difference when it occurs.
>>335259310
Good. This whole increasing emphasis on censorship thing is getting old and worse.
>>335264201
Any other answer is objectively wrong except for Sheena I guess.
>>335265667
>pirate
>on a pirate ship
>bathing
This just means they are smart enough to know they'll earn no brownie points announcing any censorship they do.
>>335264201
>>335265350
dat death flag tho
AN OREEEEEEOOOOOO~
>>335266876
Give her lots of baths, Hubert!
>>335264201
>>335261556
Xillia 2 was awful though, Xillia was much better
>>335267623
>tipping intensifies
When has the titty monster ever not been best girl?
>>335261140
As long as the multiplayer is 4 player friendly, I'll be happy.
Xillia and Zestiria fucked up on that hard.
>>335267704
Rita.
>>335267704
In every work that has ever had a titty monster.
>>335267692
Ludger and Elle were fucking awful characters, the leveling system was awful compared to Xillia's, and the debt systems was fucking retarded.
Xillia 2 should have been about Jude's research on spirits, or Ludger's and Elle's story should have been an entirely different game, not related to Xillia.
>>335267704
I guess Phantasia technically, although no one was really a titty monster there.
Who was the titty monster in Zesteria?
>>335267793
Rita is shit though.
>>335267898
Lailah
>>335259310
Blunder Ocean 5 has already lost against Berseria in every possible way
>>335267704
Phantasia and Innocence
>>335267898
kys my man
>he doesnt own all tales of figurines
>>335259310
It's fucking sad that we live in an age where a game NOT getting censored is newsworthy.
can i play the ds version tales of heart, without knowing nip and just doing tiral and error though the menus?
>>335268129
I Don't even own all the games in the series
>>335259310
How do I let this man know he is based as fuck?
Quick claim your talesfu before someone else does
>>335268129
The Alter ones? They are too expensive and some are for T R A S H characters like Edna and Asbel. They look pretty, though.
>>335268306
Yjust play the vita version anon
>>335268251
>>335261085
Couldn't agree more.
>>335268358
Already done. Wish she'd gotten a bigger role though. She gets the least amount of screentime of any of the main cast by far.
>>335268365
>edna
>trash
jej
>Tales hasn't really been censored before
>It's not being censored now
Shocking.
>>335268471
Her trolling the shit out of Rita was nice, though
>>335259387
That looks pretty damn good
>>335262902
That's not saying much.
>>335260734
Those weren't censored
>>335268930
heh
>>335261113
They sold tiny pink bikinis for a loli in the Xillias even in America. Berseria's going to be fine.
>>335261476
People just find it hard to let go. Fortunately I've gotten pretty good at it.
>last good tales game was on PS2
Can't agree with that though, Vesperia was pretty good.
>>335268930
kek
>>335266380
Revisions happen internally and go through proper channels.
Censorship comes from the outside and has no prior discussion and is only implemented to not "offend" someone.
They are vastly different because they come from different sources and have different reasons for happening.
>>335261476
I hope to God you are not talking about Abyss.
>>335259310
hope nintendo can learn some
>>335260060
>he pays for the degraded experience
Hahahah I can believe you would pay for half a game. Absolute madman.
>>335259578
It was never about the localization censoring shit for me it was more about them changing things entirely and trying to be hip with translations
>>335269457
probably not Destiny DC was the last PS2 tales, wasn't it?
>>335263015
You need your bottle?
>>335269186
>>335269362
>self censor by the dev =/= censoring by a another party
Deal with it fags. Game creators deal with it on a daily basis, you just don't know about it
>>335266003
>>335266128
>>335266472
Kinda want to smell her ass even more now.
>>335269457
>Hating Abyss
The worst part of Tales are the lolis
>>335269787
this.
>inb4 loli defense force
>>335269787
Except Elize and Beryl, yeah.
>>335269670
>Have visible panties
>Change it to grandma panties
>when asked why
>"To avoid back lash from certain groups in the west"
According to your logic just because North Koreans don't speak out against their government means they are not censored. Censorship threw fear is a very real thing.
>>335269787
>>335269836
But that is wrong.
>>335269987
But you are wrong
>>335269884
To be fair
Elize is likeable in other ways than being loli and Beryl just has the body type
>>335269787
>The worst part of Tales are the lolis
>>335269742
People have been 50/50 on that game ever since it first came out, don't act surprised
>>335269787
Some are good
>>335269787
>hating edna and patty
fuck off
>>335269670
>North Koreans aren't censored because they practice self censorship.
You don't believe the shit you spew out do you?
>>335269968
There's a lot of censorship apologists these days. I just don't get it.
When this announced, people in the threads were bitching it was a carbon copy of Xillia and unoriginal. Was it just premature shitposting?Do I have to play any previous games?
>>335263475
>SO5 is 20 hours long
Well there goes my hype
>>335269670
In both cases the devs said they did it because they feared the reaction of another party
>>335270321
>patty
>Not hating the character that can KILL your party if her random move so desires.
No, you fuck off.
>>335269968
>Censorship threw fear is a very real thing.
I'm not saying it's not real it definitely IS and it fucking sucks. But at least the creator himself did it and not some fat SJW in the west without even asking the original dev. There's a huge difference here, and designers always have to make such choices behind the scenes without you knowing a single thing about.
Also drilltit is still super erotic and wasn't downgraded.
Same for SFV, Capcom themselves did it and the ass slap is still visible.
>>335270402
People hate weeb shit. The weird thing is when western companies sexualize it's ok. Was there any back lash to Witcher 3?
>>335270189
He's right though. Titty monsters are the best and lolis are usually the worst. Anise is the best example. Presea was the best loli though.
>>335261140
Will this have Zestrias shitty combat? I hated that shit so much.
>>335270475
Technically it's a prequel to Zestiria, but you're better off skipping that game
>>335270556
Why would you use her Hi-Ougi in critical form if you're that scared of Barbatos?
>>335270475
No.
>>335270564
>But at least the creator himself did it and not some fat SJW in the west without even asking the original dev. There's a huge difference here,
It's better that some north korean censors himself and not be shot like a dog by the government.
How about let's just not endorse censorship, and punish companies that censor their games.
>>335270575
It's okay when it's not anime.
Edna is hot garbage
and most who claim to like her only like her because she gets their lolicon dicks hard
So what is Baba doing now?
>>335270764
Then you better stop buying a single game because I'm telling you, this happen on a daily basis.
>>335270887
Hiding in his bunker
Were people actually concerned whether or not Velvet actually had a decent pair of pants on? Granted her outfit is beyond stupid, but there are more pressing issues tied to a game than how a character's dressed.
>>335270734
Moves aside Patty is still trash, her story adds nothing to Vesperia.
You don't even get to see her Adult Form, fuck it.
>>335270887
Planing his revenge.
>>335270876
Can't argue against this
>>335270916
Revisions =/= Censorship
Stop fucking saying this you retard.
>>335270887
He lost control of his life.
>>335270984
Do you a single a single thing about her to call her outfit stupid
>>335270887
Tempest remake
>>335270887
In his safe space, where there are windows and walls all around him.
>>335264201
>>335270916
It's one thing to change a design, it's another to change a design out of fear or backlash. SO5 producer admitted it was out of fear. Fuck them, hundred of japans did not buy the game which is why it flopped.
>>335271035
You're the one treating revisions visible by the public as censorship you retard.
>>335270887
Bamco gave him a well deserved "vacation"
>google release date
>find this comment
Captain Clutch • 14 hours ago
I'm glad that it's coming out in 2017 with all these games coming out this year, but 50 hour story? Kinda long.
Fucking casuals think 50 hours is long.
>>335270475
It was premature shitposting
People thought Berseria was going to be produced by Baba, it wasn't
They thought it would only have four party members, we currently have six
They thought the camera would be shit, it's not
Honestly the game looks hype as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhPzlLkwBic
>>335271095
Didn't SO5 flop because it was a bad game?
>>335270887
holding Rose's VA hostage
>>335270876
sjw please
>>335259310
If this chick turns out to be some broken bird tsundere cliche I'm getting my fucking money back.
>>335271279
I'm thinking it flopped because Last Hope wrecked the series reputation
>>335271054
Something happened in her past, blah blah blah, now she no longer smiles, blah blah blah. From this we can surmise that her wearing shredded clothing represents A) whatever fuck is wrong with her arm and B) a metaphor for how her innocence is torn to shreds or some bullshit reasoning like that.
>>335271095
Then why don't you boycott DOAX3 because of it's lack of nipples despite the creator wanting to add them but couldn't due to fear of ratings and Sony?
>>335271170
He is actually in another position, head of Tales Of Creative Works or something, it's like he became "guardian" of the series assets.
Like stepping down as a King to become the Prime Minister.
>>335268358
Good thing no one will ever claim my waifu
>>335271224
I wanna like the game, but I can't take a female character with that much pathos seriously
If they're going with "I want revenge for the death of my family", they should have made Aizen the MC or something. No one is going to take a woman seriously
>>335271419
It flopped because it was another mediocre SO game, one that reuses a lot of asses from both SO3 and SO4 and didn't try anything new with it's plot.
The engine is good though, but the game is barebones.
>>335270989
>giving a shit about story in a game that drops its political intrigue and class-ism dressing for generic save the world shit and a Van rehash
>>335271279
The number one complaint is that it's censored
Two is that it's short
thee is that the camera is over sensitive and apparently shakes depending on what is below it, so if there is a bump on the ground the camera will go up sharply and down sharply. Other than that it's average with an above average crafting system.
>>335260734
>Street Fighter V
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I cannot get enough of you.
Tell me more.
>>335271497
>Then why don't you boycott DOAX3 because of it's lack of nipples despite the creator wanting to add them but couldn't due to fear of ratings and Sony?
Source?
>>335271442
She transform into a beast entirely, ripping off and destroying whatever clothes she was wearing from the inside.
Do you think she would cares much about her clothes if that can happens at any moments?
>>335271520
beat me to it
>"It's not getting censored" will be considered a good marketing plan for now on
I guess we should thank the wave of censored games for that, in a wat.
>>335259310
That is so hot. So fucking hot, i will buy this fpr full price, no pirate and i wont even wait for steam sales.
>>335260734
>Street Fighter V and Star Ocean 5.
>good
Is this bizzaro /v/?
>>335271497
Not that guy but I did boycott it, Hayashi is a little bitch, Itagaki at least had the balls for have nipple bumps on the bikinis.
>>335271730
Worked out for Play-Asia.
>>335268358
my first vidya love..
>>335269787
Lolis are usually the worst part of anything.
Pedos shouldn't be pandered.
>>335271819
And XSEED.
>>335271730
You know, all the designers need to do is not apologize for the censorship. They are admitting they are doing this to appease groups that will find it offensive. If they had just spun it the right way it would not have mattered. Also how about just not making shit overly sexual in the first place, SFV has the animations already in the game, and SO5 flaunted patatoe's panties.
>>335271512kill her and make a new one.
>>335264201
I'm getting the JP version anyway, not getting a PS4 or gayming PC for this.
>>335272032That's what I did
>>335271980
>Also how about just not making shit overly sexual in the first place
but there's a market for that
like those windbags during the 90s who said stop making violent video games
>>335271650
Hayashi was lamenting it in some interview among other things like wet clothes not working like they should. But that's the case for literally everything
Look at how the Senran anime has nipples, but the game has silly censoring. It's obviously auto censorship. Why don't you boycott that too?
Fuck I'm agreeing with you ultimately, of course all kind of censor is shit, but you have to be reasonable too, everyone would develop eroges if they could but there's a reason why they won't. Same for shooter games not going too far with gore.
>>335272073
>le emotionless girll
Graces had a lackluster cast.
>>335269787
>hating on meredy
>>335271657
Wear baggy clothing. And that still doesn't explain the retarded design.
>Part of a gauntlet on one arm
>Belts on one leg for no real reason.
>Her shirt's hugging her fairly tight, but somehow wasn't torn to shreds except the bottom part of it
>>335259310
Opening full theme fucking when?
>>335272264
Don't try to find logic in Tales of designs.
Anime = Rule of cool
>>335272264
I'm not saying it's a perfect design, but there is some intend to it and not completely random.
CAN'T YOU SEE YOU'RE MY OTHER HAAAAAAALF
>>335272228
Meredy is literally perfect.
I WANNA BE WHITE
>>335272468
HOW ARE WE THERE BACK TO BACK?
>>335272163
I'm saying that if you are going to be a bitch about it, don't fault the sexuality of your characters then back off when you get heat. Just be a bitch about it.
>>335272319
Don't worry, we'll get our Oreo soon enough.
iirc, early August.
Watch as neo/v/ aka NintendoGAF shits on this game for having anime titties
>>335272647
/v/ isn't so bad yet
>>335269787
Come on now anon
Pascal a best desu
>>335272778
>that skit where she teases Spada by telling him she hugs Ange to feel her titties
>>335272850
My nigga
>>335272632
>>335267463
https://youtu.be/i6DzHOzMEHQ?t=43s
>>335272167
Nice source my friend.
>>335272850
yep, no arguments there
>best battle style
>best outfit
>best accel
>best wife
i love edgy designs, even better if they're a chuuni character
>>335272449
And I wasn't saying it was completely random, just the reasoning is poorly justified.
>>335273024
>best wife
She couldn't get a confession blurted right in her face.
Unless Hubert resorted to rape to make her undertand, Pascal died alone.
Was this really a concern
>>335273256
>Rape
What?
>>335272997
How do you memesters manage to hear "an Oreo"?
