https://twitter.com/Frank_Pearce
YFW
>>335257557
nost fags on suicide watch
NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS BUMP
What does that even mean
>>335258839
the petition has 10k + pages to get printed
YOU THINK
YOU DO
>>335258901
seems like grasping at straws at best
>>335258839
Blizz knows blizzdrones will buy WOD 2.0 anyways so they dont give a fuck about legacy servers
>>335257836
>FBI search warrant
what does this MEAN?
>>335259294
>defending current wow
> they are litteraly scared of getting the entire 10k+ pages
holy fuck
>>335259294
>Game constantly receives updates that change or outright remove what players liked about the game
>Wonder why people liked it before those updates
>>335259294
>defending current minecraft
I really don't get why Blizzard doesn't try making their own vanilla server. I can't imagine it would be too taxing for them and if it ended up failing they could just shut it down.
>>335257557
I don't get it. Some guy hopes people use electronic documents instead of printed and that suddenly has something to do with WoW?
>>335259294
>defending current wow and current tf2
How shill can you get
>>335259294
It's the same comic that defended paid mods.
>>335257557
>'don't print it out, that's a waste of paper, send it digitally'
>a bunch of sperglords and egg accounts freak out
Christ, Nostfags are pathetic
BLIZZ HQ on monday
>>335259593
yes because an ex wow dev is sending the petition with 10k + pages so blizzard
>>335257557
Are you autistic?
>>335259294
but minecraft is already shit
>>335259294
>actually defending modern tf2
haha
oh wow
what a shill
Naw, in hearthstone they are doing a mini "event" (actually a sale, i believe) of an hero portrait due to the earth day.
MAYBE it is a small poke, bur the real reason is the earth day.
>>335259821
modern tf2 is alright.
just dont give in to the hats an skins shits. its not hard
>delivery for mr morhaime
>send it back
>ok
>>335259192
I think it means he's a secret FBI agent. Notice how that pic seems, at first glance, to favor the faggot on the left but upon closer inspection you see he's actually playing some kind of Facebook game like Mafia Wars or some shit, and Right Guy is clearly working undercover protecting America. The lore of that image just got deep, friend.
>>335259294
What he wrote.
I'm surprised at people fondly remembering the old days of WoW.
Sure, I enjoyed it but mostly because it was my first MMORPG, but the game has so many glaring flaws it was not funny, with the biggest offender being lack of content.
I guess if you played the game until the cap and imediatly rolled an alt when you reached the it you would have the best experience, because the road to the cap was fun specially if you picked a new starting zone.
But from cap and oward the game was bare, and there were time sinks everywere.
I'm not talking about "fun" time sinks like reputation farming, I'm talking about smelting a single metal bar taking several seconds seconds and flying from one zone to another taking several minutes. Wow probably gave me the bad habit of tabbing while gaming.
There was a novelty of doing it at that time, about literally braving Azeroth and finding shit, but today we have wikis with datamined content and that experience just can't be recreated even if you bring the old servers back.
Still, to people to miss those days... and actually PLAY it...
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
>>335259729
That doesn't have anything to do with the tweet in the OP though?
>We've received a 10,000 page mail but redirected it to the paper recycling plant for #EarthDay2016
hahahah savage
>>335259889
The gameplay itself is still mostly fine but everything around it is awful
To enjoy tf2 these days you damn near need an entire severs worth of friends to play it with
>>335259619
post the comic or you're a pooopoo head
>>335260015
>DELETE THIS
I've never played WoW. Why doesn't Blizzard allow vanilla servers? Surely people are willing to pay them to play vanilla WoW right?
Don't they want to make money?
>>335257836
>Friends with a girl who's a paid Blizzard mod
>Bit of a cunt with serious emotional problems and daddy issues
Not that anyone is surprised.
>>335260054
Definitely a positive stance towards paid mods.
>>335260015
DELETE
>>335259990
he sounds like a tremendous boy molesting fruit prancing lala homo man
>>335260265
Cost of running a server vs returns
I'm guessing internal research told them its not worth it.
Its a fucking business, this is always the only reason.
>>335260265
because they likely continually changed their code since the game has been made, instead of making a repository and keeping different versions saved, so the only version of the game they actually have is the one that's live
U WILL NEED MORE SERVERS, 1 EU 1 NA 1 RUSSIA ETC, THEN 1 SERVER CANT HANDLE 100k PLAYERS, THEY WONT FUCKING DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>335260375
>A generic naked girl in shitty artstyle
Wow its a anthro version of my favorit gaming platform best artist!!!
>>335259294
>>335260375
These comics are terrible.
>>335260550
Shut up stupid frog poster
>>335260428
Didn't that one private servers have tens of thousands of players or something? How much does it cost to run that server?
>>335260459
Can't they use the version the private server was using?
>>335260459
This is the most retarded explanation. No big company (yes blizz was big when WoW originally came out) does that. Not one. They would have to be literally retarded to not have a repository of their old code.
>>335260676
>>335259294
>>335260375
So does this comic literally only shill?
would you rather be dobson or anthony burch
>>335257557
Hey, that sounds like "eat a fucking dick you pieces of shit". What a coincidence.
>>335260375
>half-naked
>she has 0 clothing on
Nigga do you even know what "half" naked is? She's fully naked, just not fully exposed.
>>335260265
They're not idiots, you know that if the petition got say, 300k signatures, less than 1% would actually sub and play, right?
And that's being extremely generous, if they activated a single legacy server, it would have some activity at first because existing subs would want to check it out for nostalgia or curiosity, but it would trickle down to less than 1k players in a matter of weeks.
>>335260687
Well first of all, the amount of players on Nos isn't indicative of actual customers. Nos was a free server, that would be like looking at the download count for whatever game on piratebay and thinking "Look at all those lost sales".
Friendly reminder that Nostalrius only shut down because they started having money problems, tried to pawn off the server bills onto players, but the hosting company would only take payment-in-full so noone was willing to pay it, then spun that into "Blizz shut us down, go beg them for classic servers, it's totally them and not us!" that all these gullible faggots believed.
>>335260759
Seems like it.
>>335260759
yes
>>335259990
>WoW was my first MMORPG
>leveling was the best part
>rep farming was the only endgame I did, hence there was no content
>smelting takes too many seconds
>taxis take too many minutes
hot and valuable opinions for sure
>>335260863
But didn't that vanilla server have dedicated players for years or some shit?
>>335260910
Sad that that's no longer true. The hammer on the Gaben Box has been replaced by a credit card swiper that says "In case of Consoleitis, please pay $6.99 for the PC Master Race Pass" just like their CS:GO and TF2 2-3month long pass events.
>>335260962
>i want to play an RPG but I don't prefer the RPG mechanics they have.
Nobody is pleased. big surprise
>>335257836
>>335258136
Can someone please explain to me why the fuck you people are so defensive and hostile over not having private servers? Do you seriously get mad at shit like this?
>>335260972
Playing a game for free is much easier to do than actually pay money for it. It doesn't matter how fucking long.
I've played tons of games I give 0 shits about because it was free.
I never had the intention of buying it, and I probably never will give those developers money.
>>335259990
As a Nost players myslef, I would say, 90% of the community isnt exactly "nostalgia" driven.
You see, many people actually didnt play the game on release, and nearly no one got gud enough to do the end game content.
So you were 12 years old in and beaten Molten Core in 2005. Great fucking whoop. There is like half the Endgame content you didnt play.
People playing on Legacy servers arent there to relieve their memories, they are there to actually finish the game they never finished 10 years ago.
Most would jump on a TBC server (or migrate if Nost ever did) or drop the game for good after beating Naxx.
>>335260962
>grinding rep is good
>smelting bars takes whole seconds
>and that's bad
>just give me instant teleports.
>>335261193
this is an internet forum. we have discussions. of what topic who cares. having violent rhetoric just gets you laughed at.
>>335261193
because everything has to be an argument
there can never be a middle ground
It's a sad state of affairs when companies actively prevent people from playing the games they want to play.
Very sad indeed.
>>335261354
Yes.
That is a very solid argument that has shed a light on this dark topic.
Thank you for these wise words.
>>335261509
Sad but what are you gonna do other than not buy their games under consumer protest? that's all you can do and that's also pretty sad.
>you think you do, but you don't
What did he mean by this?
YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE
YOU LIKE WHAT I TELL YOU YOU LIKE
>>335261619
I want this meme to end.
>10k pages going in recycle bin
>>335261703
based CEO
>>335259294
>I'm not surprised, people also claim vanilla team fortress was superior
probably because it was
>>335261726
What meme? He's literally telling the players that he knows what's good for them.
>>335261619
That vanilla players are literally mentally retarded for enjoying an old, shit game. Vanilla WoW was fucking garbage, and when backed against the corner all the nostalgiafag has to defend itself with is "MUH COMMUNITY" or "MUH COMMUNITY MUHFUGGA" and will unironically call current WoW shit while simultaneously ignoring how shit Vanilla WoW was.
These dumb pieces of human shit have never even considered that maybe you shouldn't play WoW at all.
you know i signed the petition and doubt it will do anything... but i wish mark kern was not involved. hurts the legitimacy of the whole movement imo and he'll probably try to co opt the whole movement to somehow be about his ridiculous crusade
>>335261823
When somebody claims they are doing something for the greater good of a thing, chances are they don't know shit of what really works and only end up breaking a once beautiful thing.
Just like Chris Poole.
>>335261193
i personally don't care either way if they do it or not, i would never actually play on one. but it would be cool for the people who want it
but some of you seriously overestimate how many people would actually pay for a server like this and even how long the ones who would pay would keep paying
>>335261823
The "what did he mean by this" meme, not the shit he quoted.
I agree with that quote though despite disagreeing with everything else blizzard has done from Argent Tourny onward. These nostalcucks think they want a vanilla server, but they really don't. They want a FREE one.
>>335261871
>they are retarded because they enjoy an old game
>everybody who posts in /vr/ are stupid because they don't play the hottest memes of 2016
the only dumb piece of human shit here is you.
>>335261871
>hey! why are you enjoying "insert old game here"?
>are you fucking retarded?
I don't play WoW, but that's what it sounds like.
>you aren't enjoying yourself
>>335261871
dont cut yourself on that edge
>>335261871
Are you the same guy that throws a fit when people don't move onto a game's sequel on launch day and keep playing the old one?
>>335262207
You know, I'd laugh if they pulled a Final Fantasy 6 iOS on these people.
>WE LIKED FF6! GIVE US A REMAKE!
>Square: LOL OK HERE WE DUMBED IT DOWN BIGTIME FOR MOBILE AND MADE THE GRAPHICS LOOK LIKE SHIT OUT OF A 12YEAR OLD'S RPGMAKER GAME
>FUCK YOU THIS ISNT FF6 THIS IS SHIT
>>335261619
They're more knowledgeable on what consumers want than the consumers themselves. Bold statement for a company that bled half the subscriber base of WoW in one expansion.
>>335262222
>>335260428
Blizzard adds 10 fucking servers every expansion and the majority of servers now are all low of low population. Blizz has more than enough money for 2 fucking legacy servers
>>335262156
>These nostalcucks think they want a vanilla server, but they really don't. They want a FREE one.
then why not just run a vanilla server for six months and find out
shit even charge double for vanilla and see how that works out, sure it won't draw nost numbers but it'll probably still be more active than some normal servers are right now
>>335261198
I can say as someone who's played WoW when BC came out off and on and never really found in engaging or fun, there was something about playing on Nost that was actually enjoyable, not having your hand held and needing a team to get through most encounters was nice.
Nothings probably going to come from this, Blizzard only cares that their sub numbers to stay high, but one can dream.
>>335261818
Owned it since launch and it is quite the different game, all the weapons they added kinda bogged down their already aging engine, but the hat culture that formed from it is rather profitable since dumb people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars for digital hats with particle effects
>>335257557
>201X
>There are still people playing wow
>There are still people supporting/buying blizzshit
when will the cancer fucking end,between sonyggers,blizzfags and bethfags,i honestly can't tell who are the worst,right now leaning towards bethfags
>>335262207
>B-BUT I ENJOY IT
Then it's hypocritical to call current WoW shit and current WoW players retards because hey, they just enjoy it.
The nostalgiafag (nice attempt at trying to pretend you're not invested in this) will often ignore this hypocrisy.
>>335262301
Oh, I forgot "edge". The nostalgiafag will call anyone who points out how stupid their nostalgia is "edgy"
>>335262385
You're not getting it. It's not about Old WoW vs Current WoW. It's about not playing WoW at all because it's not a good game.
>>335257557
>WoW subs dropping
>Knowing that the game you are working on was made by better more passionate devs and you've turned into a hand holding candy crush to fill overbearing stock holders pockets.
> thinking Vanilla WoW was good when it was mediocre and full of standard setting empty cancer mechanics that idiots use as lube to get into gaming
>under the impression Blizzard ever made anything worth playing
>finally realizing nost fags, although better than anyone that slurps at the anus of blizzards current turd, are drinking imported fortified boxed wine instead of transitioning to non-addiction sims
>finding out not caring about anything blizzard or its legacy anymore will only reap health and happiness.
> seeing that a random person on a forum just helped you out
enjoy your freedom
>>335262408
Did people just get bored of WoW? Or was the expansion the actual problem?
>>335262441
If Blizzard made good decisions, we would never have had MoP, WoD, or Legion in the first place.
>>335262535
>It's about not playing WoW at all because it's not a good game.
>stop liking what i don't like
>>335260052
the gameplay is fucked to shit with a hundred gimmick weapons that dumb down the game
>>335262587
MoP was the only half decent expansion.
>>335259591
They have an expac coming out that would compete directly with it.
The game code has changed significantly since vanilla
Everyone that used to work there and cared about the game either left or was fired.
With that being said, they could add something like cavern of time but bigger that emulates vanilla without needing a different client
>>335262545
the latest expansion shrunk a ton of things like towns and shit, generally turning the once massive world into something lite. lackluster games are boring.
>>335262427
did you miss the "vs return" part of the post? because it's not just the cost of physically putting the server up, it's hiring people to maintain and provide customer support, it's getting the support staff to know how to deal with problems that would be unique to whatever expansion you set the server to. i guarantee you all this costs way more than you think it would
>>335262520
>hat culture
this is what killed TF2. Not the hats themselves, the userbase that formed around it
the only way to play anymore unless you want to be absolutely miserable and infested with shitty people on the server is to find the right server and even then the game is a bloated mess nowadays because of the billion updates
Blizzard damage control and shill thread.
>>335262716
>being this big of a panda loving faggot
MoP was shit in every conceivable way. BC was great, Wrath was good but started the casualization, Cata was massively necessary world revamping but continued the casualizing, and mop just cemented it.
>mfw all the nostcucks replying to that tweet
>mountain of "just refunded my Legion :)"
>as if any of them were buying it anyway
>>335262545
Subs spiked back to 10 million at the start of Warlords, so interest was still there. People just realized they were duped, and quit in droves.
>>335262873
Half of them probably don't even know how a refund works, they just let mommy take care of it
>>335262535
No one gets hurt if they would release vanilla servers. If a group of people could do it for free, then there's literally no excuse for blizzard not to at least try assembling a small team of coders to make it happen. People who want vanilla most likely wont even play legion so what's the fucking problem in satisfying a relatively big playerbase when there's almost completely confirmed profit? They are hiring people to refresh their old games such as D2, WC3 etc. but they can't find anyone to setup vanilla for them? Fucking joke
>>335262856
You're objectively wrong. Has nothing to do with pandas, has everything to do with the fact that everything in MoP was perfectly balanced.
>>335262996
There's a mentality that by release Vanilla servers Blizzard would be admitting that their game is worse now than it was, and they can't do that. Have to save face.
>>335262545
WoD just has this obvious air of "the developers don't care anymore", and most people saw that and jumped ship.
>>335261193
>anime avatar
>>335257557
>using electricity for eternity is better for the environment than printing on paper
>>335262996
There's literally no reason for them too, either. They can do what they want with their own game. I honestly hope they keep btfoing nostalgiafaggots just because of how insufferable they are.
>>335262958
Vanilla and BC are the only two with a constant rise before follow up expansions. It seemed the problems just started to show up Cataclysm. Wonder what was the first domino was.
>>335262791
Mhm, I've only played a few times as of recent but I've made quite the killing on paypal and the steam market when it comes to selling the stupid hats and stat-trak weapons they love so much, never spent a dollar in game though past buying it in 2007.
>>335259990
The Everquest fanbase has the same problem.
There is a gigantic nostalgiafag population, wanting nothing more than to sit in kunark and velious forever rather than actually challenge themselves with later expansions or improve their experience with QoL changes.
I much prefer the progression servers that EQ has put out as opposed to the Project 99 "we must have 68% experience penalties on troll SKs because thats how it used to be".
That way i can have a raid window, maps, chat channels and other shit that makes the game actually better while playing through more classic stuff. And then when im sick of classic stuff, we will move on to later, actually better expansions as they unlock.
>>335263225
dungeon finder
>>335261871
This guy is right, though. I played vanilla WoW, and I distinctly remember people complaining about how shit a lot of the things that got changed were. How stupid getting "keyed" for raids was. How expensive mounts were in proportion to how necessary they were. Having to spend tons of time recruiting members for dungeons runs by standing in town spamming LFG. Having to spend 20 minutes flying halfway around the world to get to dungeons. People thought that stuff was shit back then and were constantly complaining to Blizzard and asking them to fix that shit.
Well, Blizzard did. Now, everyone's on about how awesome all that stuff was, and how the community interaction was so great, and the dungeon finder killed all that shit.
The fact is, WoW is watered down, casualized bullshit now, and it was convoluted, overly complicated bullshit back then. It was always shit, it's that that once, it was thick, brown logs full of corn and peanuts, and now it's the green apple splatters.
WoW was never good.
>>335262958
>One expansion managed to have both BC era strong numbers and low end Vanilla numbers within the span of half of a year.
>Blizz immediately closed their shutters and refuse to talk about their subs now.
>WoW's n-not dead, g-guys! NOSTALGIAFAGS BTFO LOLOLOL
>>335259294
>>335260375
>a BR is retarded
Wow guys, and the earth is orbiting sun right? NerfNOW isn't even funny, it's just a br's try at shitty humour.
>>335263025
>perfectly balanced
>because everyone was the same
>everyone had aoes, everyone could do everything, everyone could solo easily, even tanks were doing high dps
Spotted the wrathbabby who only likes to solo and LFR queue
>>335261193
There are tons of private servers and we love them. Nostfags are blowing things out of proportions because their special snowflake server got shut down.
>>335263346
>WoW was never good.
There was a sweet spot. Later Burning Crusade was actually very good, it had enough quality if life elements to make the game enjoyable but was still well before the casualization.
>>335263143
>There's literally no reason for them too, either.
Potential profit.
Wrath of the Lich King was objectively the high point for WoW
>>335263653
I agree.Pre argent tournament.
>>335260759
>if u like games made this decade u are le shill!!
Never change /V/!
>>335262545
The expansion really was that bad. There's almost no endgame content outside of dailies and farming Fun Crystals, and by the time Legion comes out the current raid will have been out for a year. It's not a sudden thing though, they've been driving the game away from what made the initial community love it, and what caused it to grow. They went from recognizing problems with the game and making sure to fix them and improve upon previous fixes, to going overboard and slowly destroying all sense of community. Naturally this lead to its decline.
>>335263653
also the stagnant point. It kept the players but didn't grab much more.
>>335261871
this is the most retarded thing i ever heard.
>i think pokemon is a shit old game so everyone that enjoys it is retarded.
everyone fucking person agrees that vanilla WoW was shitty and the reason we call "muh community" is cause now there its a single player that you pay for MONTHLY.
it's not about the game you retarded piece of shit. it's about the connection you had with the world around you, you depressed intergalactic faggot!!
>>335262703
>having more options dumbs the game down
Modern /V/ everyone!
>>335261871
you sound like a nintendo kid who tries to tell melee players how brawl is the superior game
>>335263225
I forget which came first, but it would be either the dungeon finder or the argent tourney raid.
I can't believe this is still a discussion. it's not going to happen.
you know why? NASDAQ: ATVI.
they have shareholders they need to answer to.
blizzard: "hey guys we're going to spend a shit ton of resources and money getting this spaghetti code from 2005 functional and then spend even more money on new server infrastructure to support it!"
shareholders: what happens if that doesnt work out and people leave after a month of two?
blizzard: oops!
I'm reminded every single day that most people who play video games and frequent places like /v/ have absolutely no fucking idea about how things operate outside their own bedroom.
>>335259294
>missing Team Fortress Classic is bad
>missing Vanilla TF2 is bad
>missing Alpha Minecraft is bad
fuck YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOUUUUUU
>>335263225
>wonder where the first domino was
>>335263576
Yeah, because the handful of a thousand of idiots who will actually sub to vanilla wow will make it worth their while.
You can have WoW be good again with in legion (dont be gay and just pretend it is), OR have vanilla back. What do you chose?
https://twitter.com/Xathian1
>likes every salty reply to OP tweet
>does nothing but suck Mark Kerns dick all day
>2 followers
>>335262545
Its really obvious the current wow devs dont give a shit about the game. It wasn't like they tried with WoD and it ended up being bad, it was blatantly half assed and unfinished
>>335257557
Why don't you faggots just move on with your lives, Jesus. Did you ever think MMO's aren't the same quality fun sociable experiences not because the game and because you are 10 years or more older and have lives and responsibilities, or you don't and are anti-social?
I wouldn't personally pay for a 10 year old game but I might enjoy playing a vanilla server again. I still think they ruined it by actively destroying the world PvP of the early beta and vanilla servers. There's nothing wrong with BG's but not at the expense of proper world PvP
>>335264076
It's profit that doesn't require a lot of investment though.
>>335263346
I don't disagree that the dungeon finder concept was a bad idea. I disagree with how it was implemented. It should have been same server only.
>>335257557
He hopes they used electronic copies because its going straight to the trash
Stop making generalizations and absolute conclusions, I think that in this specific case, pertaining to Blizzard, nostalgiafags are in the right because Blizzard is in the wrong. Any other case and the nostalgiafags should instantly lose.
>>335264230
But that's wrong, because I had fun sociable experiences on Nost, but none on current WoW.
>>335264472
>Stop making generalizations and absolute conclusions
Are there any good MMOs out right now, at all?
>>335263225
>It seemed the problems just started to show up Cataclysm. Wonder what was the first domino was.
cataclysm literally destroyed azeroth and replaced it with revamped zones and an "improved" (read: streamlined, linear, dumbed down) new questing style.
cataclysm also massively redesigned many classes from the ground up
>hunters go from using mana as a resource to using focus instead
>paladins get new holy power mechanic
>soul shards are no longer items
>all healing specs reworked to fit into blizzards new healing philosophy
>vengeance mechanic added for tanks
>threat completely trivialized
TBC and WotLK were mostly just expansions - they expanded upon the core game and added more things to it. although the endgame philosophy of wrath differed radically from tbc and vanilla, the core game was still the same.
cataclysm, in contrast to earlier expansions, was more of a remake than an expansion.
Earth day was a socialist invention intended to make average people feel guilty about their normal everyday lifestyles.
Self-guilt is the first step towards accepting modern socialist ideology.
This has not changed over the years.
>>335264265
It would require quite a bit of investment. Making and maintaining the servers isn't going to be as easy as flipping a switch. It's going to take a good amount of work, and it's just plain not worth it for the handful of people that will pay for it.
>>335257557
HOLY FUCK NOSTRAFAGS PUT ON BLAST
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>>335263904
>Modern /V/
>/V/
le XD
>>335259889
i miss the days right after the engie update, shit was perfect, no hats in sight
>>335264682
If they have the old code still it would be incredibly simple. We know they have the extra server space since subs are way down from their peak.
So yeah, it might be as easy as flipping a switch.
>>335264664
To be fair, Azeroth content did need an overhaul. But the main problem was that there wasn't quite enough xp, and that there was a lot of walking. This could have been solved by adding a few more flight paths and bumping up experience gains on some of the lv 50+ quests. What they did instead was just awful.
>>335259294
>Vanilla TF2 wasn't better
I'm going to hunt this nigger DOWN.
>>335264850
You don't know how these things work do you. They would have to set everything up and maintain them completely separate from current servers.
So no. There is no magic "give vanilla servers" switch in the depths of Blizzard.
>>335261871
To be honest, it was the community that made Nost great. Sure, it didn't have the epitome WoW gameplay but it sure had a better community compared to retail which has none and no better gameplay.
>>335265034
Obviously it's not a magic switch but if they have the code and servers already it's not nearly as hard as you're making it out to be.
>>335260428
It's likely not due to server costs, I remember there used to be a famous report that server costs were only 1% of the budget. Still, you're probably right in that they don't anticipate enough profit to actually give a shit
>>335257557
>first response is passive aggressive
wooow
>>335265034
you seem to underestimate that it takes one fucking nerd on staff to do this.
>>335264025
They already have the old code backed up in their archives. You don't need to make things up to seem cool.
>>335261486
Yes there can
>>335265034
>They would have to set everything up and maintain them completely separate from current servers
nigger blizzard has been doing hosting for online games for over 20 years now. do you seriously think running a game they already ran 10 years ago is some sort of huge effort for them?
when a bunch of hobbyists manage to do it with shitty reverse-engineered software and commercial hosting providers, you can be damn sure that it would be a trivial task for blizzard.
>>335265000
Cata really did 5-mans well for the most part. CC required, nasty gear and DPS requirements, tanking and healing were complex and demanding. Most fun I ever had with WoW.
Once the ZG/ZA 5mans were tamed, I quit. The game just didn't have any more tricky content.
Cata was not a perfect expansion, but I enjoyed the first few months more than I did WotLK post-Ulduar.
>>335265132
Hint: they don't have the "old servers". That what happens when you upgrade the servers every patch.
Even if they still have the code for old Vanilla stuff they would have to reimplement it. And that would requie lots of work.
>>335265229
>one person
>setting up and maintaining a game server
nostfags are this retarded
>>335265478
it took private servers years to reverse engineer it. That is work. Work that if Blizzard implements vanilla servers would need to be paid for.
Ultima Online's survived for nearly 20 years because Electronic Arts allows private servers, some of which are so heavily modified they don't play at all like UO anymore.
If EA Games, the most jewish and evil of all the large publishing giants, understands it's a good idea to sell the base game but allow people to join less populated, not officially patched, private servers than what does that say about Blizzard?
People have already paid for their copy of WoW. Many have paid for it three times over. Some people played WoW for six, seven, eight years at $15 a month and want to play on a private server. Blizzard was making, on average, 1.5 billion dollars a year from WoW subscriptions alone between 2005-2010. They can stop fucking whining.
>>335265417
first off, they don't have that. secondly, search up anything regarding vanilla code and you'll realize what a nightmare that is. they can't change things like the standard backpack size.
>>335265517
the initial endgame experience that cataclysm delivered was phenomenal.
BWD and BOT where extremely good raids, the 5man dungeons and heroics were among the best they ever made, the tuning and balancing was on point for everything.
but then they made two huge mistakes.
first, they gave in to whining wrathbabies and nerfed the 5mans into the ground.
second, they just started slacking on patch development. firelands was good but way too small to be its own entire raid tier, and dragon soul was outright garbage.
>>335257557
I made a thread linking this on the official WoW forums and it was literally instantly deleted. It was up for maybe 2 minutes with no responses.
Maximum damage control
If I can buy a $3000 server station right now and host my own private server of WoW, why can't the creators?
>>335265671
Physical servers retard. They have the hardware, they have the software. It's 95% done already.
>>335259990
>But from cap and oward the game was bare, and there were time sinks everywere.
Yes, because the end of the game is the end of the fucking game. The game is the part between the beginning and the end, not the shit after the end.
>>335265671
>it took private servers years to reverse engineer it. That is work. Work that if Blizzard implements vanilla servers would need to be paid for.
no. that is work blizzard does not have to do at all because they have the fucking original software. they don't need to build emulators for their own game server software, they have the fucking game server software itself!
>>335257557
YOU
>>335265671
you put that nerd in charge of a team.
you can't just have ... AN IDIOT run a company now. but ya know, this is Actizzard. whatever the fuck will they get somebody that can do the job without fucking it up.also don't play nost, or wow. i'm waiting for a different thread so i'm here in yours, being neutral as fuck.
>>335265229
You seem to underestimate that if blizzard release legacy servers, people want different things, for AQ to be closed, or open, naxx to be released or not, a certain patch only, fix to some bugs that were present in vanilla.
You can't please anyone with vanilla servers
>>335265857
Because you're a retard, simple really, you don't see the problems with having a private server
>>335265896
You can always just add the other expansions overtime as the company gets comfortable with the idea of hosting older versions of the game.
Ease in with Vanilla, as fans will start asking for more, add in new servers for the BC without removing vanilla. you can't build rome in a day. or bring back player trust in one as well. not gonna be an easy one off answer for this.
>>335266226
OH YEAH, HERE IT COMES, IT'S JUST ONE GUY WHO NEEDS TO DO THIS RIGHT?
And then new players are gonna complain that they missed "x" patch or the opening of AQ, just stop, please.
F2P soon
>>335260863
Old School Runescape proves you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about.
>>335266385
People will complain.
being a passive aggressive whinebaby isn't gonna solve problems.
frankly Blizzard has too many of them now too get any actual work done.
>>335266001
Servers don't need maintenance, servers were built to fail so that companies had to hire tech junkies as server maintenance to increase the number of jobs. You can build a maintenance free server.
>>335266520
>OSRS
>Updates the game with original content
Yeh, that isnt vanilla you schmo
The main issue is that vanilla servers would turn niche as fuck as the game starts to stagnate after a few years. Enjoy running Naxx 40 for the next ten years.
>>335266613
>ooops, maybe there is too much work to Try and please some people who weren't really willing to pay to play vanilla anyway
>>335266720
that's true for practically everything. Time decreases enjoyment.
>>335266697
It's the same concept, and it was doing amazingly when the only "original content" was QoL stuff, and has inarguably gotten worse since they started adding new shit.
And it's still about half as popular as the current version of the game.
>>335265761
If a multi billion dollar software company releases detailed patch notes and client notes for everything that they did, you wouldn't believe they saved the code as well?
I could see implementing the old code into a server being challenging, but saying that they don't have access to the old code itself is ridiculous.
Just delete everything from Wrath onward and start again with 2.4.3. Make a new WoW.
>>335266720
nah dude thats why they progress into tbc, and then wotlk, cata, mop, wod
:))
YOU THINK YOU DO
>>335266880
Fuck Wrath
>>335267006
That's what I said.
>>335266941
>>335266941
BUT YOU DON'T
>>335266854
Runescape doesnt even have 100k players online at the moment
The game is a sinking ship, if you honestly believe 5 million+ people will come back to play legacy you are delusional
>>335259650
Sauce me
>>335266831
your implications arrows don't work when you think i give a shit about wow.
you ever heard of too many cooks? well too many fucking blizzard employees spoil the game. Smaller fucking Blizzard knew what they were doing but then they merged and soon their titanic grip of player interest gone wry.
When I mean one nerd, i mean a small team of people. the current team on blizzard do not house player interest, but stock holders and quarterlys now. too many cucks.
>>335267149
If you honestly think that 10 million people are playing current WoW, you're more delusional than you think I am.
>>335266871
it's not, it happens all the time. Remember digg.com ? they did a total layout change, turned out to be shit but they couldn't get the old one back because it was gone. Wow vanilla was a mess of a code they have been working to improve ever since. Blizzard still does contract work with old programmers because they can't change certain parts of the code and it has to be worked around (like again, the backpack size of your standard backpack, the bunny triggers and so many other "small" things).
Make WoW 2.
Abandon WoW after legion and make a sequel from the ground up.
>>335266880
I do agree with the new WoW but not going to BC. WoW 2 needs a new engine, new/more factions since the two faction system is awful now, the ability to chose your own faction and be aligned with your friends (ex. Tauren and Night Elves are allies) and no hero classes, DK and DH start at level 1.
>>335267229
Where did I imply there was 10 million players?
I just took their last number of 5 to what it was at legion (10) and applied to the same as runescape, 50/50
>>335267229
>WoW 2
>made by Activision-Blizzard
do you really want a Everquest 2 clone?
>>335267369
Wow is basically WoW 2 at this point.
>>335264230
t. someone that posts get a life over and over in every thread not comprehending the irony
>>335257557
What does he even mean by this? Explain it to me like I'm 12 and what is this
>>335267381
>half as many people playing OSRS
>if you think 5 million people would play legacy servers
Not my fault you're retarded and make shit metaphors.
Besides, why the fuck do 5 million people need to play it for it to be successful? They already have the game made, just throw it up and see how well it goes. What is the absolute worst that can happen? They make TOO much money?
>>335267359
>the backpack size of your standard backpack,
You can't be honestly be retarded enough to think they can't change these things, the parts they can't touch are others not these.
post your refunds boys
Never ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqKmH9Qa1Q
>>335260870
That's what Valve did, and look at how successful they've been.
Shutting down a private free server to stop people playing a game that they don't even provide paying players with.
Is there anything more petty or pathetic or cuntish that that?
>>335267618
Those things are so heavily built into the foundations of the game that if they changed them they would have to change everything above them. They CAN change it but it would effectively be remaking the game entirely.
>>335267784
No.
>>335267440
>>335267443
There are a lot of missteps in the current WoW that they can't undo without tearing apart the fabric of the game.
If they rebirth the game, then that could give them the breathing room to leave out the casualization and stir up the spirit of the original.
>>335260759
Nerf Now is mostly Valve shilling with the occasional Blizzard defense.
>>335261871
MMORPGs are garbage.
>>335257557
I have no idea what he is talking about
>>335267618
spoken by someone that has never worked with code for a day in his life. comes as no surprise that you're the kind of person that will post something along the lines of "come on blizzard just get the vanilla servers back up for us :)"
>>335267742
How autistic can you get? Autist!
>>335264063
i had same story with lol when chinese overlords bought riot. i got mad because it's happened again.
game went downhill extremly fast in terms of heroes and pricing and year later it felt like shit. i got lucky to have dota 2 alpha invitation.
>>335261617
play pirate servers?
>>335268092
How is that autism?
I'm done.
They don't give a shit about their fanbase anymore.
It's over.
>>335268060
But they have the code. Where do you think nost got it and even if they don't have it they can just take it from nost.
>>335267742
>play on a pirated server
>hating the official servers
>asking for refunds for products
you are literally NOT the people who blizzard wants anymore
Just wait until the movie is released and it is turned into a casual mobile tablet game.
Your garrison saved info will be transferable over to your iPhone WoW game goyim.
>>335267742
Will they actually honor it, since it came with that "free" character boost and such?
>>335268168
you can rebel i suppose. go for it.
>>335268296
That movie looks like it's going to be an embarrassment to Blizzard.
>>335268282
>they don't want people who play their game to play and buy their game anymore
Okay
>>335268298
Yes
>>335268371
it's going to be a hit with the normies and that is the current WoW audience now.
>>335268224
>even if they don't have it they can just take it from nost.
hehehe. you should be the official spokesperson of the group that want the vanilla servers back. you and mark kern would make a really nice duo
>>335268296
I can smell the green screen.
>>335268298
as long as he didn't buy legion as part of an upgrade bundle with an expansion he can refund at any time
Blizzard will refund any pre-purchased item as long as its not released yet. If you only bought legion, even if you used the 100 boost they'll refund and your boosted character will say its "locked" until you buy legion again.
>>335268060
A group of some fucking French kids are capable of producing vanilla servers but mighty Blizzard cannot.
Yeah friend, that makes sense, if only everyone knew how hard-core and unknowable code truly was, like yourself.
>>335263653
If Asia weren't behind the west on patches/expansions at that point, there would have been a dip from the ICC drought. Instead it stagnated.
>>335268532
this. there is no way wc movie can flop.
>>335268685
They can but they know there's no fucking money in it.
>>335268532
Does WoW have a current audience? They don't report their subscriber numbers anymore. It's probably shot down to lows never seen.
>>335268485
>>335268636
Oh nice, I'll go request it now then. I've been regretting my preorder more and more with every bit of info that comes out.
