>let's make mimics account for more than half of all chests
What were they thinking?
>>335223517
>he doesnt hit every chest he sees
pleb
>>335223517
You can just look at the chain.
It's not exactly complex.
>>335223553
I do though. Expecting a mimic instead of treasure ruins the tension.
>>335223553
>>335223595
Sure, but what the fuck is the point of mimics if you expect them more than you don't?
>>335223517
>>What were they thinking?
Of you
being anally devastated
because of your own stupidity
>>335223517
The only area I can recall with more than one mimic in it was irithyl dungeon, and them being there kinda makes sense.
>>335223652
So you may be relieved when its NOT a mimic.
>>335223652
Because it's the fifth game in the franchise, and everybody already knows to check.
They're just trying to catch in the rare occasion where you're desperate to grab a chest before you get ganked.
Swing at the fucking chest before you open it.
Just stare at it for five seconds? What chest do you know fucking breathes? Moron.
AND I STIL HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE MIMIC HAT
None of you retarded faggots are addressing the question. How does it make sense for mimics to outnumber legitimate treasure chests? You're all just spouting variations on "git gud" which I have already done.
>>335223553
Why are you even hitting chests? They dropped the bullshit mimics of 2 so you can literally tell at a glance again whether a chest is a mimic or not. Too bad making 90% of the chests mimics ruins any sort of appeal of mimic spotting.
>>335223909
Souls defense force. Any criticism of the game is git gud
>>335223832
I have two.
>>335223909
It's a fictional fucking monster.
Come up with your own damn reason as to why they have a successful ecology in zombietown whose chief export is adventurers.
Is the capra demon the smallest dark souls boss?
>>335223517
>Smouldering Lake
>Farron Keep
>Mini Bosses harder than most bosses
Do you really think they had the players wellbeing in mind for their last installment of the series? This is their "fuck you" swan song.
Expect the DLC to be the most supreme levels of bullshit you can imagine. I'm expecting every enemy to have teleport and 1hko 1 frame attacks. All boss loot will be dropped from chests. All of those chests will be a new super mimic that kills you and drains 10 SLs per death.
Miyazaki is tired of our shit
>>335223815
I dont know if it was some kind of bug but for me the non biped mimics in Lothric didn't breathe. Gave me a weird moment of uncertainty because the chain was in the mimic position but the chest wasn't moving.
>>335223517
the better question is why the fuck are you still playing this garbage game?
>>335223517
is baby mad the big bad mimic ate him?
>thousands of years after the first undead linked the flame
>the world has fallen into disrepair as the hollows inhabiting it give no fucks about maintenance
>mimics infest places unopposed
>not one mimic in the dragon place and it makes sense because they couldnt reach it
>DEEPEST LORE OH GOD MUH LORE BONER
>>335223732
I think it would be more interesting to add better ways to hide mimics. Or even punish players for checking chests by hitting them but putting subtle signs the chest is a mimic.
Like if you hit it, the contents turn to rubbish, but maybe there is a blood trail leading to it.
Stuff like that. I believe From can be more creative than just all these basically pointless mimics.
>>335223517
Out of all the things terribly terribly wrong with this game, THIS is what bothers you?
>>335223927
Ok I may be a retard but I straight up cannot tell they're mimics in this game. I can't see the teeth or the breathing or anything. What's the sign?
I don't know why they didn't do something new with the mimics this time around.
I didn't fight a single one of those fuckers. Hunter Charmed each and every one of them.
There should have been one that caught the charm/firebomb and threw it right back at you. There should have been a room with chests and regular enemies. The moment you aggro the enemies they hit the mimic(s) and they murder the hollows and make a b-line for you. Or the fucker picks the greatsword out of its own mouth and starts sheev-spinning at you.
>>335224105
They're not pointless, they're optional minibosses with strong rewards.
>>335224039
Bed of Chaos is
>>335223909
>How does it make sense for mimics to outnumber legitimate treasure chests?
They have feed well over time and procreated?
>>335224184
But then who's the biggest
>>335224045
Bosses were the absolute worst part of the game. I hated them. They were all super special princesses who did their super special princess attacks that you had no recourse against so you just roll for five minutes (its hyperbole you faggots) and watch them being super special princesses, then hit them the obligatory one or two times before they do their spinny flippy super special princess weeb shit for another ten minutes. I quit at Lorien. They aren't even hard bosses, just fucking tedious and boring and creatively bankrupt.
>>335224173
Why not create a different enemy for that? Giant Crystal Lizards already serve that purpose, you could make another one if you wanted. It just seems like a missed opportunity that is made apparent by the frequency of mimics.
>>335223517
>spot mimic and hit it
>it still kills you
Every fucking time. I didn't kill a single mimic on my first try.
>>335224091
Not him, and I am looking for conversation.
Mimics were absolute bullshit in DSII given how their attack range for their ohk, if you did not kill them immediately, was 5 miles.
You could be anywhere but front of it and still get eaten.
>>335224310
>Giant Crystal Lizards already serve that purpose
How dare they have more than one kind of optional miniboss!
Fuck those Boreal Dancers that wander around too!
>>335224274
Hi plague
>>335224116
straight chain/curved chain
>>335224348
who cares ds2 was shit anyway remember? all the enemies were garbage! lets just pretend it never existed
>>335224394
Outrider Knights.
>>335224147
I would shit myself if they had a mumic that caught the charm and threw it back. Now you cant heal and dat mimics coming for that boipussy.
>>335224405
What did he mean by this?
>>335224045
>Smouldering Lake
I just got past that area, why was it so hated?
Is this some kind of meme?
>>335224434
does it still open up if you throw a talisman at it?
>>335224394
I think you're missing my point. My point is historically mimics were interesting because they exist to trick you. They don't do that anymore. I think your desire for optional bosses could have been upheld while also keeping the COOL AND FUN aspects of the mimic.
But instead mimics were reduced, in my mind, to something less interesting.
>>335223517
Because le dark souls is hard maymay
>>335223517
What really pissed me off was that one bonfire mimic. What a shitty game, it completely jumped the shark with it.
Dynamic Mimic system when?
>Mimic placement randomizes every time you rest at a bonfire
>Mimics can pull out whatever treasure they're carrying , then proceed to beat you to death with it
>>335224116
They toned down the movement (if you use binocs you can usually see the upper half of the chest move up and down, a la breathing) it seems like.
The real tell is the chain. If the chain (its on the right side of the chest if you're facing it) is pointing towards the front (towards you) its a mimic. If its pointing towards the back of the chest (away from you) its a regular old chest.
They changed this in 2 so, as far as I could tell staring at a mimic for ten minutes, that you can't tell the difference. While it makes mimics a possible threat again since you can't easily spot mimics it doesn't change anything since there are no consequences to hitting chests once.
>>335224105
There are subtle signs to see if its a mimic. Only game there wasn't was in 2.
>>335224472
I liked the game if anything for the pace.
DsIII gets frenetic too quickly and fights are not enjoyable because after a while it is pure muscle reflex. There was more guessing, especially since parrying worked 1 in 3 times, for many encounters and PVP.
Fuck the collective opinion.like all the games thus far
>Let's make mimics have the same nonsensical model as DS1 so that it's obvious which chest is a mimic
Mimics only had a right to exist because of a surprise factor. I think they shouldn't be in this game at all because nobody will get surprised after DaS2. Or maybe one lategame mimic once you start treating chests as your comfort zone. The way they are implemented now is just ridiculous and completely misses the point.
>>335224045
>bosses are easy as fuck
>common enemy mobs will push your shit in in a second
What the kind of wacky tobaccy was Miyazaki smoking?
Are there not a million bloodstains and "THIS IS A FUCKING MIMIC" messages surrounding each Mimic like in the previous games?
>>335224582
Yeah I know there are subtle signs. And I appreciate that. But there is no point if you can just hit it anyways.
>>335224531
The first chest in the game is a mimic.
That's a trick.
There's a mimic which can anticipate but also turns into basilisk ambush.
That's a trick.
There's a mimic in the middle of a hall of those fucking Branding Jailer Witches that your health bar shrink up like your weewee in the cold.
That's a fucking challenge.
They're not willy nilly strewn about.
They're pretty much all thoughtfully placed.
>>335224582
>as far as I could tell staring at a mimic for ten minutes, that you can't tell the difference
Are you serious? Mimics had locks.
There aren't even that many mimics outside of the dungeon, i don't understand this meme.
Not to mention they were always trivial shit, just look at the chain or whack the chest. Mimics are a cool idea but were never well implemented in any Souls. Maybe if there was an additional layer of danger, like setting of a trap when bashing a chest and randomized locations/loot, it'd be a little interesting.
>>335224405
He summed it up better than I ever could. Seriously though the bosses in 3 feel like some ironic self aware take on Souls bosses. Like after they 1 shot grab attack you or do their 13 hit combo they look at camera, shrug, and go 'LOL SOULS GAMES AMIRITE GUYS WE'RE SO HARD!!!!1'
The worst part is that if they'd toned that shit down and only had a few 'big guy in armour with spinny flips and 2 shots you no matter what and does side to side swing, overhead swing, grab, and gimmick swing' those would have been the highlight of the game. Pontiff and Abyss Watchers were great. But when every single boss after Pontiff, aside from maybe Aldritch, is the exact same thing it is just boring.
>>335224623
What's nonsensical? I mean they should have done something new, but once you know the tell, all mimics are obvious. In DaSII, mimics have locks
>>335224582
>There are subtle signs to see if its a mimic. Only game there wasn't was in 2.
Besides the lock
what is silly is just how powerful they are as a normal enemy
something that hides and tries to trick people to go inside it should only need to if they can't really get a kill any other way
yet they are stronger on their feet than most enemies in the game
>>335223517
>make the very first fucking chest in the game a mimic
>that mimic that attacked and killed the demon in the catacombs for me
>>335224116
look at the chain, if it's rounded and end's up at back, it's normal chest, if it's pointed towards you, it's mimic. Pic related: one chest is normal, another fake
>>335224759
>all mimics just accidentaly put their chains (which have no reason to be there) in the wrong direction
The mimics in DS2 were so much better since they actually made you think twice about opening a chest or looking for another bonfire.
Has anyone tried tossing an undead hunter charm at mimics in ds3? I remember lloyd's talisman making them become lootable without fighting them in ds1
>>335224956
yes' it's working, you can open and loot them with undead hunter's charms
>>335224828
Trap door spiders man.
Evolution is sometimes a bitch.
>>335225043
>>335224956
Why does this work again?
>>335224828
Maybe they have really bad endurance. Real endurance I mean. Maybe they can't really do much in anything but short bursts. Actively hunting anything might be too draining for them, I mean fuck look how skinny they are. They probably have to conserve as much energy as they can.
>>335224268
Dragon God
>>335225056
>Evolution
Mimics are a cursed people
>>335225221
It's a mystery
>>335225221
>>335224582
>There are subtle signs to see if its a mimic. Only game there wasn't was in 2.
bullshit, you could literally see the chests breathing in das2
>>335225221
Just a secret method of looting mimics. There is no lore explanation, it just works.
>>335224660
The issue is more of a "I've played all the previous games and know exactly what they do already" issue. A lot of the enemies in this game do things differently than previous games (rolling backwards can get you killed by a lot of enemies, holding shield gets you bashed, ect) however we don't see the mimics getting that new paint. It would even help to give the mimics variation in their tells:
>some mimics have the same chain as normal chests, but slightly different color/texture/engravings
>some mimics will just rush you on sight if you get close enough
>some mimics will attack you if you pull out binoculars
>as an added bonus, mimic types will change/randomize each NG.
>>335225223
>DS4
>mimic boss has fukchueg body, runs laps around you
>have to either have incredible rolling reflexes or be chased around the arena for a solid five minutes before it gets so tired it just sits there and baits you into attacking
>>335224528
I don't remember? I keep killing them.
>>335225221
Allfather Lloyd is the ambiguously mortal father of the gods.
His presence is a reminder of the heretical truth that the world is not born of magic, but of men.
He shatters illusions and ruins deceptions, especially magics which are based in deception.
>>335224116
They still breath and it's much more noticeable in this game.
Anyone have any idea why any time i get summoned or summon a player nobody has any animation? everyone just floats around and takes/deals damage with nothing being shown, been this way for days now
>>335225452
ur internet connection is bad my man
>>335225379
I think there's new type of mimics, the ones thet crawl instead of kicking your ass normally. At least I don't remember those in previous games
>>335225452
restart game
it happens
>>335225501
connection is a o k
>>335225556
have restarted many times over the days. shit sucks
>>335225536
Those were the kind in DaSII
>>335225452
>Get killed in pvp cuz I can't see them swing.
Suffering.
>>335223595
Not even the chain. You can see it breathing too.
>>335225536
Yeah I thought about that as I was typing. However that isn't the part that matters, at least to me. I want the approach to the chest to be the real spoopy part. The anticipation is what matters to me, not the result.
>>335224679
>First chest is a mimic
While that managed to get me ocne it compleely demolished the threat of mimics throught the game as from this moment knew they where goinr to be everywhere
>Mimic and ambush
that just DS2 level level design
>Jailer and mimic
Another problem with the game. you clear the hardest part of the entire game and you spot a mimc and go "oh, thats there too" there is absolutely no reward for putting effort into the game.
>They're toughtfully placed
Are you shitting me? they're placed so that you're painfully aware of their existence everytime you spot a chest which serves no purpose whatsoever other than to shit on scrubs who can't spot them
>>335225452
That happens to me every now and then. restarting my game usually works. If not that, restarting my computer always does.
>Use a talisman on the mimic
>Loot it and then beat it to death while it's still doing its wakeup animation
Fuck mimics, y'all.
>>335225669
ah, I think I killed mimics in ds2 before they could do anything, that's why I don't remember
>tfw accidentaly hitting chest with twinblade or lance to check if it's mimic, because you don't remember exact spots
![Loot___Mimic___Monsters_by_Vermin_Star[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lwgbjZL.jpg "Loot___Mimic___Monsters_by_Vermin_Star[1].jpg")
>>335224679
Alright, there are a dozen mimics in the game. The list is here:
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Mimic
First one, sure. Its a trick, you can see it breathing.
>2. By itself in its own room
>3.
I suppose this one could be to punish players who get greedy and aggro the demon and the mimic. But you could do that with an ambush and I feel like it doesn't align with the point of the mimic
>4
By itself
>5
This one you could accidentally kite it into the patrol of the peasant hollows, but again, this misses the point of a mimic.
>6.
Basilisk ambush. Fair enough.
>7.
This one can be dangerous if you fight it while the jailers are in the room, but you could do that with a sleeping crystal lizard, too. Or anything else. It misses the point of a mimic.
>8
Mimic with a bunch of rats. Same as last
>9
This one I can appreciate because its a huge room of "Yo, if you want for treasure, fight for it, fucker." But it still misses the point of the mimic.
>10
Sorcerer nearby, still no point in it being a mimic
>11
No trick or ambush, just a mimic near enemies
>12
Mimic by itself
From could have made this more interesting. But it just isn't. There is no point in these enemies being mimics. They could be golden sleeping leprechauns. That is my point. They never trick you except MAYBE twice. I just feel like they could've been way cooler, but instead an opportunity was missed.
>>335224528
Talisman opens them but you still cant loot. It does allow you a brief moment of a few seconds to wail on the mimic for extra damage as it yawns. And yeah you do nore damage in that window. After it gets up you are back to normal damage.
>>335226042
You can loot them when they're asleep from a talisman in DS3. Try it again. You can.
Dark Souls mimics are babby's first mimic.
D&D had fucking mimics the size of rooms, their mouths were doors.
>>335224091
What even are mimics? How did they get there? I always assumed they were carried there as a security system. It's weird to think about one of those tall spooky fuckers trying to sneak into Anor Londo, hiding behind lambs and corners. Every time someone turns around he ducks his arms and legs inside and hopes they don't question the treasure chest. Eventually he finds the perfect spot and just waits.
How long can mimics survive without food anyway? I mean if none of the other chests were opened there must not be any other undead walking around feeding the mimics. Mysteries man.
>>335226146
Still waiting for a Mimic bonfire one day, maybe the DLC.
A mimic has its chain extending towards the front, while a real chest has a curved chain facing the back.
A mimic will sometimes open a little bit revealing its teeth.
This has been the standard for all Souls games. If you're getting killed by mimics you have nothing but your retardation to blame.
>>335224582
In 2 the mimics had locks on them
>>335226224
I don't think even Miyazaki is that dirty.
>>335226247
You're missing the point retard. Read the thread.
>>335226197
It's a demon; it doesn't need food. Stop overthinking things for the point of MUH LORE.
>>335223517
i dont mind it seeing as how if you think its gona be a mimic its probably a mimic
im sure they were thinking
>HEHE
>WATO IS IT MIAZAKI SAN
>WAT IF I MAKA DIS CHESTO A BOOBY TRAPO
>HOHOHO MIAZAKISAMARAMA YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clever
>>335226323
>waaaa 2many mimics!
Risk and reward. Don't expect the game to hand over good items to you without a fight.
>>335226323
Ya but then why does it eat you? Is it souls? I guess it's souls.
>>335223517
ive been dealing with it sense dark cloud so im used to dieing whenever i should be happy
game needed MORE mimics, mimic ladders, mimic doors, mimic bonfires, and mimic mimics, where you attack it, it instantly dies and a mimic pops out of its head and attacks
>The chain of one of the mimics looks like its curving back because it's clipping through the floor
I can't be the only one that that killed.
>let's make enemies that are relentless and have attacks with lots of range, closing distances quickly, and magic!
>now let's turn it into a boss! WITH A CLONE
I hate Ponitff Sulyvahn
Also why do so many of the bosses have clones or additional enemies of some sort
>>335226462For your fingers
>>335226552
Someone promote this man.
>>335226607
Because Miyazaki used all his good ideas in Bloodborne.
>>335226552
And then you find a bonfire later in the game, but the fire keeper is there, but then you talk to her and she's actually a mimic. We'll call it Mimic Souls and it'll be the best thing ever.
Seriously, though, I feel like they should've done anything different at all with mimics. Anything.
>>335223517
you can just look at it and it will breath every 5-10 seconds. I end up hitting em with a poison cloud from this one staff and then just fuck off while they sit there in chest form dying to poison.
>>335226552
>mimic ladders
>mimic mimics
I love you, anon
>>335226439
>Risk and Reward
Except the risk is nothing since it's obvious they're mimics and the reward is fucking worthless, the only mimic that drops anything of worth is the first one.
>>335226552
when i was DMing a D&D game once i made all the coins in the dungion mimics
that was a fun day
>>335226659
A mimic dungeon where you're inside the mimic and chests are the only safespots
>>335226652
>used all his good ideas in Bloodborne
But Bloodborne did the Pontiff Knight thing only for the whole game
I didn't like it so much
So are mimics born looking like chests? Maybe it's like a hermit crab and that's a real chest it's using as a "shell". It could also shapeshift but I think we'd see bonfires or lever mimics if that were the case.
>>335226757
I dropped DaS3 before Pontiff so can you please be more specific?
Powercreep.
This game is filled with it.
In a couple titles, every single chest will probably be a mimic.
Same shit happened with the "ambushes". There is one every five meters. I have never once been surprised by an ambush/trap in das3. So fucking condensed, in-you-face and samey it's pathetic.
>the game is hard now guys rite?
-FromSoft
>>335224091
Nobody gets eaten by mimics.
All of them have a "mimicry ahead" message in front of them, and like 95% of chests are mimics anyway.
>>335223517
If I were to make a game, after the beginning areas, 99.9% of chests would be mimics (better chest quality means harder mimic. Don't fuck with the adamantite mimics). You'd be tearing up at the sight of a chest that didn't want to eat you.
In every souls game there is a drake bridge. In every souls game there is a mook hollow hiding in a room full of explosive barrels that throws a firebomb.
I want to see these two factors become mimics. Kill the drake? Mimic bridge. Maybe the drake breathes mimics. Maybe the drake is a mimic. All the barrels are little skittering barrel mimics. The hollow erupts into a mimic. Firebomb mimic?In every souls game there is a Moonlight Greatsword
>>335224748
>Every boss after Pontiff, aside from maybe Aldrich
OK.
>Yhorm
Gimmick boss where you kill it with the Demon's Souls Storm Ruler.
>Dancer
This is a boss that actually fits your complaint, but it's not that hard if you fight it when it's supposed to be fought.
>The Twin Princes
A boss that is differently paced to most other bosses in the series. It doesn't do many elegant, elaborate combos, but it teleports around, and in the second phase you need to kill one of the brothers before he revives the other. They deal a lot of damage, but they aren't that hard. Some of the side-to-side swings can fly over your head and most delayed attacks can even be dodged by dodging twice based off of reaction.
>Ancient Wyvern
Dragon God's long lost cousin.
>King of the Storm/Nameless King
A regular dragon fight with a slight twist, and then a straightforward fight with the beefed up child of Artorias, King Allant and Ornstein. I guess this could fit your complaint. It is very hard, but I thought he was on-par with Artorias.
>Soul of Cinder
Yes, it's a 1v1 fight, but the first phase doesn't fit your complaint and can be ended quickly.
The second phase, however, is Gwyn. Basically, again, on-par with Artorias.
I really don't get your complaint. There's plenty of variety in the late-game bosses and they aren't overly hard.
>>335226793
They are shapeshifters
>why don't they do any other tricks?
Because conventional fantasy, rehashes, and pretending to be frustrating when a mimic bonfire would actually be frustrating for the babies so they can't do it
I'm confused. I'm at the start of Irithyl dungeon and I swear I've only seen two or three mimics.
Are there just a shit tonne later on or is this some kind of fuck you from From Software to people who pirated the game?
>>335223832
It's the chest in the area that leads you to smouldering lake that has one of those fire demons in it.
It's great for early game item farming
>>335227018
Irithyl dungeon has excessively many.
Other than that, memelords exaggerating.
>>335225452
It's mildly terrifying when bosses also get stuck in their default pose.
I got summoned for High Lord Wolnir and he just kinda floated there in his bizarre skeleton pose, periodically sliding along the slope but never attacking.
>>335227108
I must have gone on a really wacky progression because I've just entered the dungeon. I swear 8/10 chests I've opened have been mimics.
>>335225997
>I suppose this one could be to punish players who get greedy and aggro the demon and the mimic
you can actually get the mimic to fight the demon, which is cool
>>335226847
So the Pontiff Knights in Irithyll have this thing where they're really fast with high poise and they do these twirly combos that hit like a truck
They're hard to get away from because their attacks cover ground like nobody's business, and they have a special swipe that basically doubles their blade's range
They're totally infuriating
And Pontiff Sulyvahn is basically these enemies but taller, faster, with two swords and more attacks
And he summons a clone in the second phase
It's like
Pretty shitty
>>335227018
it's not that there's a lot of mimics
it's that the mimic : normal chest ratio seems to be close to one or even greater than one
>>335227023
It's a random chance from a mimic.
>>335226924
DON'T
>>335227018
It's a fuck you from From to people whio likes to explore and look around levels.
>>335224828
I always really liked that. Mimics are fairly obvious to me and anyone else who knows what to look out for, and if they were weak they would be no challenge at all to anyone who bothers to look at the chain. But, because mimics are so fucking strong, it forces us to still be on our toes even when we know its a mimic.
>>335223927
the dark souls 2 mimics had verry prominent latches for the metal chests and a giant keyhole thing for the wooden chests
Anyone else wishes from took 3 years to make a more unique souls game instead of shitting rehashes out yearly?
>>335227512
>because mimics are so fucking strong
??? the only way they can kill you is if they grab you or you have no vig
>>335227512
But they die really easily to circle strafe and their attacks have long openings.
Sure they hit hard but its hard to get hit usually.
>>335227378
Holy fuck are you serious?
Wow, I'll be damned.
I got it on my 4th mimic, then.
>An alternative interaction once you know the chest is a Mimic is to use an Undead Hunter Charm on the Mimic. This will render the Mimic incapacitated and will allow you to loot the Mimic like you would a normal chest. After the effect expires, the Mimic goes back to its default, sleeping state with a big yawn.
Woooaaaaaaahhhhh
>>335227218
Is Irithyl dungeon meant to be done before or after Aldrich? I have no idea where I'm going and no idea why/when I end up fighting the Dancer, which I'm kinda hyped for.
>>335227674
Doesn't really matter, you just have to do Yhorm and Aldrich eventually. Dancer is right after you kill both.
>>335227674
it's meant to be done when you want to do it
I find that it's a slightly easier route though, pontiff and the route to anor londo can be a bitch, and aldrich has some sense of difficulty unlike yhorm
>>335227670
>consume an item so you don't get free souls from an easy-shit roll&punish short fight, plus item drops
Literally useless
>>335224105
That technically happens in dark souls 2 if you hit the chest enough times.
>>335226924
>Pirate game
>Anti piracy kicks in
>Every chest is a mimic
>Every enemy is a mimic
>Every boss is a giant mimic
>NPCs are actually mimics
>You're a mimic
>>335227674
The yhorm branch is ten times easier than the aldrich one
Not sure why people are making it seem like there's no obvious suggested progression here, probably just delusional drones
>>335227932
>Pirate game
>Its better than the base game
hmm
>>335224567
>bonfire mimic
You're bullshitting me.
>>335227932
I want this
>>335227991
Path to Aldrich appears to be natural progression, while path to Yhorm smells a bit like a side area.
Everyone's interpretation of the link the fires ending of DaS1 was wrong.
You beat the boss, you think you're safe. You go to light the fire, finally able to rest when suddenly you're pulled in and burnt to ash.
The first flame was a mimic.
>>335227805
>>335227817
Thanks anons. Irithyll seemed to up the difficulty so I was wondering whether I'd fucked up somewhere and gone the wrong way.
>>335228105
>do you wish to start a new adventure?
>press yes
>the NG+ prompt was a mimic
>>335228105
It all makes sense now how could I be so blind. The whole game is just a mimic, I'm not actually playing vidya
Does anyone know if I can use the Storm Ruler on other giants?
I tried it on the sleeping one in Irithyll Dungeon, it didn't seem to take effect.
Does he have to be aggro'd?
Can I use it on the giants in Cathedral of the Deep?
>>335228253
storm ruler doesn't do anything special at all outside of the yhorm fight
>>335228105
keklorefags BTFO
>>335227554
Well Darksouls is a bamco thing. If From refused to work on it, then they would probably get another studio to work on it.
If Miyazaki had his way, it would probably just be DeS, DaS and BB
>>335228297
>give the player a weapon effective against giants
>literally only effective against one giant
Thanks From
>>335228361
>lorefags BTFO
That happened ever since I stepped into Anor Londo in 3, a few weeks ago.
Meme fanservice over lore. I guess that's that.
>>335228253
I tried it on the ones right after Sulyvahn. No effect.
>>335223832
>>335224030
Lel I ended up with four.
Mimics are cute! CUTE!
>>335228521
CUTE
>>335224828
I have never once gotten hit by a mimic in DaS3, they're fucking braindead to fight at all points of the game regardless of your build and playstyle
>>335228441
It seems to me that Lothric is literally Lordran only way, way, way into the future.
Anor Londo isn't the only thing present. I mean, shit. You should've felt something was up when you found Firelink Shrine.
>>335228406
The other giants in the game die in like 10 hits anyway.
Do the giants in the cathedral of the deep take years to fight, or is there a trick to it?
How do I kill the giants in the muddy area where I'm slowed?
What is the point of raising that one bridge, with the lever, in the corner of the large platform covered in shallow water? It does not allow you to go from side to side because it's shorter than the second floor.
GUYS
Hey guys
What if - get this - you could loot chests in other people's worlds (which would reset at a bonfire if your shit was stolen), AND there was an item that let you transform into a mimic - moveset and all - and pretend to be a chest in someone else's world
Also no invasion sound would play
>>335228441
Thank god for that, you autistic shitstains were the worst part of the fanbase.
>>335224039
>>335224184
Micolash including BB, otherwise Pinwheel definitely
Nobody's addressing OP's issue as usual. You faggots just keep spouting git gud and that its easy to differentiate but as OP said what's the fucking point if 60-70% of the chests are mimics?
I don't have any problem with killing mimics I just simply don't understand. By the end of the game you'll be hitting every chest anyway so why not just make them normal enemies?
>>335228646
sounds like a covenant or something
>>335228639
The trick is to hit them until they die and they'll miss you 90% of the time anyway.
>>335228584
>Tfw no mimic gf to gobble me up
Truly this is suffering
>>335228105
>>335228646
I still want a covenant where you can place enemy spawns, including mimics.
>>335223517
>DaS1
>Lets have some chests be mimics!
>DaS2
>People will be expecting mimics, lets have some of them have traps instead. We'll have different kinds of chests, and punish the player for wildly smacking the wooden ones.
>DaS3
>Lets have LOTS of mimics
>>335228639
The ones you see the head of first I just arrow down, fuck em. The big one under the rebirth lady just nip at his ankles until he dies. I think they might be weak to bleed, big non-boss fuckers like that seem to be.
>>335228716
FROM SOFTWARE I KNOW YOU'RE LISTENING YOU'D BETTER MAKE THIS A THING
>>335228601
Yeah firelink shrine too. The blacksmith, too, at that point. That one is completely inexcusable.
They also included random DaS2 tidbits so any way you look at "theories", it just crumbles under fanservice.
They just threw in random shit going "remember guys, we're the ones who made the cult game dark souls 1!".
>>335228646
Boring as shit.
Would never work past the first week the game is out you'd just get destroyed.
>>335228170
Good. NG+ is shittily implemented anyway.
>>335228639
A better question is how did giants get inside the cathedral.
>>335229038
there was a big front door I think
>>335225294
So they just happen to have heads that look like chests or are they like hermit crabs and find a chest and make it their home?
>>335229038
They grew up from being baby giants, silly.
>>335228805
What if the game case for DaS4 is a mimic?
>>335229038
holy shit
>>335223716
>Profaned Capitol literally have two right next to each other
>Kill the Last Giant in DaS2
>Also here's more giants in DaS3
wut
>>335229175
last giant wasn't even the last giant in his own game
>>335225675
>grape knighting
>decide to actually help the host
>leading him around showing him stuff
>gets invaded, decide I'll fight the invader
>never see him and get back stabbed by nothing after 5 minutes
Thanks FROM
>>335226924
>Forgive Patches
>"Thank you friend, you wont regret it!"
>Transforms into a Mimic and kills you.
Later in the game.
>Find chest
>it's moving slightly
>swing at it
>it's Patches.DEEPEST LORE
>>335229217
The guy who asks the bosses their names and holds up the health bar couldn't find the two down in the basin. Give him a break, he works hard.
I feel like this game is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. I'd say it's good but starting a new character is boring as hell and after I got my plat, I sort of just lost interest. Even after doing everything I could in BB, I still clocked in another 80 hours with a new character when the DLC released.
Sorry, I just needed to get this off my chest.
>>335229175
I think the Giants in DaS2 and the Giants in DaS1/3 are different. Apart from having very different builds, when you kill Yhorm his cinders have a very human-looking skull in them. It doesn't work at all with the weird hole-faces that the DaS2 giants had.
>>335229175
>Kill last dragon in DS1
>Also they're everywhere else
>>335229175
There's two types of giants though. He was the last hole face probably
>>335228936
I don't know if bringing back old ideas, places and people is so much of a sin when it's a series.
If Andre showed up in Bloodborne, that'd be fanservice. If Oscar showed up in DaS, that'd be fanservice.I only just realized both Andre and Oscare are of Astora.
But in Dark Souls, he's a part of that world. You expect these games to be wholly separate, like DaS1 and II seemed to be? It's the same world, y'know. That's why they're all called Dark Souls.
And if I'm right, that Lothric is literally Lordran, then of fucking course we're going to see things from DaS1. Naturally.
>>335229294
There were two more anus giants in Black GulchI still don't understand how the fuck they got there or even why they were there
>>335229281
All souls games feel like that for me. Starting over just takes too long to go back to where you were.
>Captcha: Aldrich Rd
WOAH
>>335229292
>DaS1 begins saying all dragons died
>kill story-related last dragon
>kill a couple dlc-related dragons
>new game
>kill 50 dragons
>new game
>another million dragons
>>335225675
This happened to me and I thought it was some hacking scumbag. How can I tell the difference between that and needing to restart the Internet?
I counted and there are more normal chests than mimic ones. Stop fucking crying
>>335229281
>Not doing a low level mound maker joke invasions character that occasionally "helps" people through areas when summoned
You don't even need to beat Pontiff if you soley just want to fuck with people.
You can be under level 30, have enough int, faith and atunement for a shit ton of pyromancy and some spells with that atunement ring. Then you just get the executioner greatsword, slap carthus flame weapon on it with the Extra stamina damage while guarding ring and the old witch's ring, some kunai knives, hunter charms and rope bombs and you're set.
You can even use Chameleon and Force to really fuck with people. That and chaos pillar. Just keep your weapon around +2
>>335226924
>Maybe the drake breathes mimics
That would be hilarious to see if they all came out doing that karate kick.
So is Irithyll also supposed to be Eleum Loyce? Because it looks like the ghosts of Eleum Loyce knights walking around.
>>335224083
Go back to witcher 3 cuck
>>335224575
This.
Why the fuck weren't they random?
>>335229382
The others are drakes, aren't they?
>>335229281
The almost complete handholding of the progression killed replayability to me. This time around they controlled a ton of shit more strictly, for example, shard drops are one, all neatly arranged to be found in order, 60 pieces per tier
It comes to a point where it's not really rewarding going through it when it feels so forced and obvious, because the next time it's gonna be the exact same
I like that I can exploit knowledge of my first run to my successive runs, to make them easier/faster/different. But everything feels gated as fuck in 3.
>>335224582
DaS2 Mimics have locks.
>>335229382
Since DaS1, all dragons have been fake. The ones in Das2 are either created by Aldia or ascended dragon acolytes. In DaS3, half the bestiary seems to be turning into dragons, and everything on Archdragon Peak exists in some meditative astral-projection space.
>>335229468
>Defending bad design
>"Stop fucking crying"
When will you people realize that more mimics isn't harder, it's just boring? Having to circle-strafe your chest for a bit doesn't make the contents more rewarding.
>>335229281
>want to start a new character as pyromancer
>game heavily favors melee weapons early on
>have to play what feels like 5+ hours just to start having fun
>>335229439
>>335225452
its just FROMs shitty netcode acting up. Nothing wrong on your end, I guarantee.
>>335226924
Doesn't really work with reusing the assets.
>>335229304
Regular people cannot survive cycles. Not even lords survive cycles, just their powerful souls carries over in some form.
A random ass blacksmith does not show up on a future cycle. That's either fanservice, or they couldn't design a new cool blacksmith for 3, or ran out of time.
>>335228521
>>335228584
>>335224208
How do mimics procreate? Do they sometimes mistakenly mate with regular treasure chests?
>>335229770
Nothing in Firelink shrine is real. In Untended Graves, we don't even see Andre's corpse.
>>335229684
>"my dog ate my homework"
>>335229696
The fuck?
Pyromancer is STILL the easiest class to start with. Just about every difficult enemy for the first few levels are all weak to fire and you find the pretty handy broadsword pretty early on for all your whacking needs.
What the fuck was he doing in the Profaned Capital?
>>335229994
>killing the greatest character from Dark Souls 2
Memeazaki will pay for this
>>335229994
Those ladders aren't gonna set themselves up, bro.
>>335223927
>Too bad making 90% of the chests mimics ruins any sort of appeal of mimic
Door mimics, ladder mimics and bone fire mimics would have solved this right quick, but alas From didn't deem it so. I still remember my first mimic encounter in Dark Souls 1. It was magical. To my knowledge, they are the only ones that have done mimics this way, where they auto kill you.
>>335229941
I don't want to have to use a sword, though. That's gay ass fuck. I want to be a pure pyromancer but that shitty ass FP bar prohibits me from doing so
>>335229630
Speaking of handholding, what about the bonfire placement? I am, admittedly, not that far into the game, but the abundance of bonfires in and around the Crucifixion Woods feels a bit much. One before the woods, one in the woods, one leaving the woods into the swamp, one at Crystal Sage, one at the Cathedral... Am I seeing mimic bonfires, or is this intentional?
>>335229105
>>335229152
>>335229038
there's alot of fecal matter down there, so I'd imagine the cathedrals were built AROUND them.
The fact that it still has mimic chests despite everyone knowing about them really shows how stagnant the series has become. They need to fucking come up with something new.
>>335229994
Stealing the gold and silver from the Profaned Capital. There's piles of gold in there. Fuckers must of got him while he escaped.
ITT People that can't tell mimics from chests just by looking at them
>>335229994
Look around him, you can see some loot. He's a thief, an area that has this much gold/shiny things (everywhere along with the corpses) is bound to attract people like him.
The verticality of the place made it accessible for someone who makes ladders like him.
>>335229770
>cycles
What
Is that a DaSII thing?
I didn't play that one.
>>335230248
BRAVO HACKAZAKI
>>335230127
I mean early on for the other games you're still limited to 8 fireballs per bonfire, at least this way you can use ashen estus for more casts
Pyromancy has ALWAYS been a supplementary magic in souls games
>>335229845
Even if that theory were true it'd be pretty stupid. Why did they have to pull some old blacksmith nobody certainly has any knowledge over, from so long ago? I could understand if it were the legendary blacksmith of the gods from AL, he was actually known.
Andre sat between a garden shithole and an abandoned trap fortress.
In before the DLC shows the serpents created the fake firelink.
>>335230223
>every boss has their own bonfire
That's fucking stupid. It works in BB but it's shit in this game. Kojima is a hack.
>>335230291
This, you'd think after 3 games you'd know how to check the chain.
>>335230127
Trade most of your estus for fp sippies.
>>335229281
>after I got my plat
If you play games for achievements you're not playing them to enjoy the game. It's a checklist for you.
Post your face when you invade while a mimic is triggered.
>>335229994
Probably a joke about the big ass ladders in the beginning of the area.
>>335230330
Andre is actually Gwyns firstborn
That feral mimic though
>>335230434
>someone invades me
>I have giant seed activated
>There's an undisturbed mimic near where we're fighting
>he hits it and books it
>>335230360
Not really, I'd say. I played for 50 hours without worrying about muh cheevos. Just spent most of the early game time helping others out with some bosses and sporadic PvP in between. An extra 20 hours was put into getting any trophies I missed on my last playthrough. Perhaps I'm burnt out for playing so much in so little time, but even DaS and BB kept me hooked for far longer. For now, I'm just shelving it until I get the motivation to pick it up again.
