Still the best Ratchet game.
I wonder if the people that unironically say this ever remember this boss fight.
>>335168116
this
my nigga
But that isn't Tools of DestructionI know it isnt the best, but it is my favorite, thus it counts as a fact
>>335168116
doing co-op on that game was fantastic. mods were fun to mess with too
>>335170074
ToD was mind blowing at first, smashing a ton of crates and seeing hundreds of HD bolts flying at you.
about the new one:
i love what they did.
>hey remember Ratchet 1?
>remember dated graphics,no strafing and poor weapon systems?
>well remember no longer, we fixed everything and made it up to par to the rest of the series
>as a bonus we sprinkled some nostalgia all over it
the new game is pretty good, granted i'm not done yet, but i am 5 hours in.
love how you can replace the bolts with legopieces/rupees/sonic Rings.
>>335168116
Finaly, that or CiT.
How did they even get away with most of the dialogue from Dallas, I will never know.
>>335167782
do you think they will port the PS3 ratchet and clanks along with the HD PS2 games to the PS4? i really don't want to buy a PS3
>>335170754
The writing for the new game is horrible though and ratchet and clank 1 is a better game still.
although the worst thing in ratchet and clank 1 was having to add up every ammo for every weapon one at a time.
>>335168116
i loved how your combat bots were just straight niggas and stone cold killas. deadlocked was fucking great
>>335171026
the writing in ratchet 1 is also pretty bad, especially dick ratchet in the beginning.
>>335170970
>ratchet future collection
>ToD + QfB + ACiT + Nexus@60fps
man that would be awesome, however i feel like this is very possible if ratchet becomes popular again.
i doubt that they will port ratchet 1, they would want to avoid confusion and would rather have you buy the new one.
>>335171216
how was he a dick? he was just a bit of a 2cool4you dudebro. which he still is kind of.
>>335171545
ratchet and clank don't get along in the original.
i mean you could call this "character progression" but it just makes ratchet very unlikable.
>>335168116
Really wish they'd make a sequel to this.
>>335167782
I still prefer the first one. Yes, even after the "remake".
>>335167782
Up Your Arsenal was good too, but yeah 2 and 3 were the best. I'm enjoying this one but why did they get rid of Challenge Points? That added a pretty decent amount of replayability to the game
>>335168116
This so much. Got it in a bundle with Jax X
>>335167990
That was good though.
>>335171402
>not creating a two game bundle
>replay the classic which started it all and its Qwarktastic Remake based on the hit movie!
UYA is basically the peak of the series, although it feels a bit too orange overall. Particularly the HUD.
GC with 5-level upgrading would be GOAT.
>>335173226
>1 best ost
>2 best level design
>3 best weapon variety
>4 best replayability
What would you put PS3 on?
I think 3 was overall the best, but I have more nostalgia for 2.
>>335173482
2 had the best ost you triple nigger, and 4 was the least replayable of them all.
>>335173482
4 is deadlocked i assume?
anyways. for PS3:
CiT > TOD > Nexus > QfB
i wonder if we get another trilogy on PS4, i sure hope so.
>>335173767
Anon please, that bounce and synth in one along with less strings being used makes it godly. Envokes nostalgia despite two being first.
I replayed the game before my disk broke 20 times man. I dunno how much replay value I got out of it, including online.
>>335173986
*my first
>>335172384
You mean skill points? Skill points were just literally achievements by other name. That's why skill points are now turned into trophies completely. Into the Nexus already had same thing going even if it had in-game skill points still.
>>335167990
You mean protopet boss? That boss was such a letdown that it still turns me off from the game.
>>335167990
fun fact: you can skip this by using weapon mods, before passing through the barrier to start the fight you can shoot it with your weapons and if you have the acid or shock mod it will hurt him. It takes awhile with having to go back to the vendor to buy more ammo but once you do it enough when you start the start it will immediately end.
>>335171216
The fact that Ratchet isn't a dick in the reboot pisses me off, Ratchet was a selfish asshole that only cared about himself and grew to become the hero that he is now
Favorite weapon from GC and UYA?
GC: Mega Mini-Nuke
UYA: Rift Inducer or Suck Cannon
>>335174925
Hence why it's a reboot/re-imagining/remake.
>>335174995
they all blend together for me since i played the in a marathon for the first time right after CiT came out.
i remember the lava gun being awesome.
Nexus had that christmas themed gun that always did nice jingles, loved that.
the new one has the pixelizer shotgun and good ol' groovitron. granted i haven't seen em all yet.
GC and UYA are frequently at the top of my list for me, I lean more towards GC but my preference between the two changes on a whim. I prefer GC for it's level design, enemy variety, better arena bossesFROM PLANET CEREBELLA COMES A COLOSSAL CREATION, mini-games, ship combat, music, and general aesthetics and tone. But I also prefer UYA for it's gameplay refinements, Dr. Nefarious and the rest of it's story and characters, weapon roster, and the Starship Phoenix.
>>335175143
Which was not needed in the first place, I'd rather have a movie that is more like the original PS2 Trilogy with it's own original plot which would of had it be PG-13ish but of course they wanted to make it PG family friendly.
Hard to argue whether GC or UYA is superior, when they are both excellent games. Kind of like Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect.
>>335170754
>love how you can replace the bolts with legopieces
I think they are supposed to be like the Sly coins. The eco spheres are pretty cool too
>>335176034
Except that R&C plot is all kinds of fucked.
>which would of had it be PG-13ish
The original trilogy is rated 3+ by ESRB. It's always been a family friendly series.
>>335170754
>hey remember Ratchet 1?
>remember great story and good character development?
>well remember no longer, we removed both things so you just need to focus on shooting things
>as a bonus we removed some of the best planets
>>335176796
This. I was gonna say
>As a bonus we removed shit tons of combat, made the bouncer a pre-order item and also changed up the story so that it's a glorified movie tie in
The bouncer part pisses me off. The story is the straw that broke the camels back. What was great about the first game's story was Rachet and Clank actually maturing, especially Rachet.
>>335176796
The only character with real growth was Ratchet and the story wasn't that special. I don't know why people pretend like it's so ridiculously good.
>>335176974
>made the bouncer a pre-order item
Sony has made them do pre-order things for each R&C game. Also, it was never going to be in the game in the first place. It was made for that specific purpose.
>and also changed up the story
It's a fucking re-imagining/remake/reboot. Of course the story is going to be altered.
>>335177190
And funnily enough after 1 Ratchet never really develops any more character. Neither does anyone else, really. Yet people still like 2 & 3 most.
>>335167782
I honestly never got the appeal of Going Commando instead of Up Your Arsenal? It feels simpler, more grindy and in a lot of cases, quite awkward compared to the sequel. The space parts, races, arenas etc. just don't quite fit as well. Can someone explain?
>>335170754
>well remember no longer, we fixed everything and made it up to par to the rest of the series
The fixed only strafing, and broke everything else.
>>335177482
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
>>335168116
This game had awesome multiplayer. It was the first online game i ever played too. Iplayed thatshit for hours on end
>>335177343
>I haven't played UYA
>>335177482
well "fixing" might be the wrong word.
they just made it more consistent with the rest of the series.
the gun upgrading and the fun techtree for guns, the healthbar.
i feel like that's what they tried to achieve (along with making a movie tie in.)
you can go back to every ratchet game, and they all pretty much play the same, except for ratchet 1 wich is the only true outlier in the mainline series.
>>335176449
hmm maybe, they don't really loom like coins, but like lego single dot pieces.
sonic rings have a great sound and visual, probably my fav so far.
How did Insomniac put out three 9/10 games with just 12 months inbetween?
>>335177905
somehow they made like 8 good mainline ratchet games, while also making resistance, while also making shitty spin off ratchet games, while also making fuse, while also making sunset overdrive, and while now making some 2D game and 3 VR experiences.they should just stick to ratchet
>>335177905
The first one is a 7/10.
Both the second and third are 8/10, not really 9/10.
But yeah, it's kinda surprising.
>>335177710
While Ratchet doesn't really care for his part in Secret Agent Clank there's nothing much different to the character.
Clank? Clank's Clank. He gets his moments only during ACiT more or less.
Qwark? Stupid plans that work, otherwise the same.
Al? Same. Helga? Same.
Who am I missing?
>>335174995
GC: Bouncer
UYA: Infector
>>335177190
>For each R&C game
Except the first four, because you know you can't have pre-order items be added in game on a PS2. At least, I don't remember any bullshit like that.
>Of course the story is going to be altered
That doesn't change the fact that it's a shit alteration. It was the only game in the series that had some proper character development. And now they rebooted it and got rid of it.
>>335177905
Isn't their lead programmer or someone basically an autistic prodigy? I remember in the developer interview/Let's Play for GC they mentioned it. The fact that he could get any problem fixed within minutes is probably a lot of that.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10020288
>>335178220
>Except the first four, because you know you can't have pre-order items be added in game on a PS2. At least, I don't remember any bullshit like that.
Yes yes, nothing for PS2 but still.
>That doesn't change the fact that it's a shit alteration.
Literally an opinion. I never cared for selfish Ratchet
> It was the only game in the series that had some proper character development.
For whole one whopping character. Wow. Arguably ACiT had some for both R&C and even Azimuth.
>And now they rebooted it and got rid of it.
It didn't retroactively erase the original game from existence, man.
Jak won.
Just throwing this one out there for those who might not have seen it, there's a Let's Play done by two of the developers for GC and UYA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK6eeS1LPFQ&list=PLBE216F8E761D085C
Its really cool to hear them talk about making the game and shit. They also did the first game but it isn't as interesting to listen to since they were just testers at the time.
>>335178630
I'M GOING TO KILL RATCHET
>>335178730
>They also did the first game but it isn't as interesting to listen to
There's some interesting shit like Dan's face as texture on a tree on the lodging planet.
>>335178630
>1 good game
>>335178507
>I never cared for selfish Ratchet
You aren't supposed to. He was an asshole. He grew into a likable person. That's called character development, which is usually part of a successful and good story.
>For one whole whopping character
Yes, the fucking main protagonist of the series. It's better than every other title in which he's just a sarcastic lovable oaf with no real development.
>B-but you can still play it! It still exists!
This excuse is invalid shit and I see retards using it all the time.
The only boss fight I remember from any of the games is the end of 1.
>>335167782
Anyone else really, really like Quest for Booty? I liked how they emphasized the platforming. The rail section in the beginning was great, and the 2 puzzles were fun.
Obviously it would be silly to list it as my favorite (~2 hours long, 5 weapons, etc) but for what it was, they did a bang on job. Comfy as fuck planet, and actually challenging fights.
Also, Talwyn a cute and Rusty Pete goat villain
>>335178324
Courtney Gears ainec. There really needs to be porn of her
>>335179136
>You aren't supposed to. He was an asshole. He grew into a likable person. That's called character development, which is usually part of a successful and good story.
No, I mean I never cared for the fact that he was selfish and had growth from it.
>Yes, the fucking main protagonist of the series. It's better than every other title in which he's just a sarcastic lovable oaf with no real development.
In future trilogy he wants to find the rest of his species though but ends up preventing Azimuth from bringing them back and shit (for a good reason too). Not to mention in Nexus (while my memory is fuzzy about it) Dimensionator could've also helped him out with that but no.
>This excuse is invalid shit and I see retards using it all the time.
How the fuck is it invalid? How the fuck did this remake suddenly make it disappear from existence?
>>335179463
Also, the retcon for Ratchet being the last of his kind (with Angela going mia with Talwyn's father apparently) was a far bigger change.
>>335178630
Not surprised, even if I prefer Ratchet, Jak has elemental shit going for him on top of guns.
>>335175808
are you me?
I am with the series since 2002, and I just wanted to say that the new one is one big disappointment.
>>335180397
care to elaborate?
>>335180134
If ACiT is in third place for you, then maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5zVn93fl9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ywtRKaoiGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Flvd6lAik
>>335179350
I loved it too, great setting.
>>335179350
The space pirates were the best part of ToD, so it was a smart idea to have them be the focus in this.
>>335179895
i love ratchet but jak is the better franchise
>>335180539
i didnt have a ps3 so i never got to play the future series.
hoping they release a collection for ps4
>>335180921
you are fucking out of your mind mate.
>>335180921
Jak franchise became shit after the first game, Ratchet only improved across its original trilogy.
>>335179414
>alien chicks are rampant with robots to boot
>it's all furry porn
>>335179350
Got to play when FFA released, it was nice. Short and sweet.
>>335180921
>First game is so-so platformer
>2nd game is all around crap save for Daxter
>3rd game gets it shit together and is actually pretty great
>>335181127
funny how you say that, having never played the first one i played 2 with 0 expectations so i really enjoyed it and the 3 even morejak 3 is my 2nd fav game ever after mgs3
>>335178630
not mad. But damn not even the spam of threads from what I see.
>>335167782
On subsequent playthroughs some cutscenes do not play again. First person is broken beyond belief.
And yet, it IS the best R&C gameon the PS2.
>>335171216
Your brain was constructed bad.
And... I am sorry a fictional character displaying anger triggered your early childhood memories.
>>335167782
Starts off amazing but gets worse as it goes on.
>>335168116
Why does he look so tall
>>335183916
It's not a screenshot from the game.
Dreadzone promotional material makes its contestants look more menacing than the real thing. Ratchet is quite short. Vox used Space Photoshop to make Ratchet look taller.
>>335183718
How many people did complain of jerk ratchet though to the point of shifting it?
>>335185103
When I played Ratchet 1-4, I did not actually have high speed personal Internet. Yes, I had NO INTERNET. I did not discuss games with other gamers, and I did not know what a "fandom" is. Thank God I didn't.
Which means, when I played a game, I formed my own opinion, instead of borrowing one from the majority of "other fans". I had no problems with Ratchet 1. I never had a problem with Ratchet 1. But when I got my own Internet, I learned that the popular opinion was that the game had bad character writing, and I apparently have to hate it now.
Fuck this. I never had a problem with the game, I never will. True Fans can go to Hell.
>>335168116
Deadlocked was quite fun, but it misses what makes Ratchet and Clank 1-3 really good.
All of the cool environments and most of the funny dialogue is missing from Deadlocked, it comes off as kind of bland imo.
>>335168116
This was fun as fuck.
Side note: am I shit at games, or do all the Ratchet and Clank games get stupid difficult out of nowhere towards the end? I've still never beat R&C 1, and 2 took ages.
>>335186418
The final level of Ratchet 1 is stupidly hard. Most people just cheese it with the Visibomb Glove.
>>335186006
>series
>ever having good plot or character writing
Not going to lie, wasn't even the greatest.
Honestly they could just re use hardass becomes more likeable. Hell ToD did the exact same with its plot device and the danger.
Only cares for the humour. More pissed on lack of lowbrow.
Huh.
>>335186307
Some of the designs in Dreadlocked were hella amazing though anon.
Have you ever really looked at the containment area, or the storm planet? Orxon's mining facility looks spot on for a Blargian world too, and shit like the Puma and Landstaker look great, especially the hovership, not to mention the Ghost Station
Also, the dialogue and writing was amazing, the fuck are you talking about. "Its cold, its dank, its scary, its just like my ex-wife", the entirety of Dallas's dialogue on the final countdown to the station blowing up, Vox News being Fox News and spreading massive slander, it was one of the best things the game had anon.
>>335186939
Well desu the last time I played was when it came out, I guess I'm wrong.
>>335186667
Just because plots were simple, does not mean they were bad.
Unless you think complicated = better.
The "Agent Clank is the hero and Ratchet gets literally NO respect from anyone, which is displayed in a ton of cutscenes." thing in R&C3 got really annoying in my opinion.
>>335187427
>what is a jokeInability to comprehend humor is a sign of autism.
>>335187760
Not that guy, but the same thing being repeated over and over again isn't funny.
>>335187253
Nah not even future was amazing and it was the whole trilogy story stuff.
I just found them alright overall.
>>335187240
Go play it again mate, they gt away with it bothm looking amazing and so many adult jokes you realize the ESRB never actually plays games.
>>335187760
You are the kind of person who thinks quark is a good character, right anon?
3 > 2 > 1 > 4
Havnt played new ones
Nefarious really brought up 3 from 2, otherwise they are pretty equally good
>>335187760
I accidently really hit a nerve there it seems.
>>335188000
Is the HD version on PS3 worth playing, or should I bust out the PS2 and pick up a copy?
>>335188000
>You are the kind of person who thinks quark is a good character, right anon?
And you are the kind of person who does not know how to spell a character's name.
Qwark was very funny until TOD, where he became meh.
>>335188246
Deadlocked on PS3 is shit.
>>335188246
Gladiator isn't on the collection anon, just 1 2 and 3. Still recommended, minor glitches but shits playable.
>>335188389
Quark was never funny. He was a failed hero with the personality of a jealous chimp, who fucked a actual chimp, constantly got in the way and only slightly redeemed himself in 3 and then promptly became absolutely useless and a massive dumb as a brick coward again.
He had and has no real redeeming qualities, he is forever a character that you just plain dislike/hate. Not love to hate, or maybe the kind that's dumb as shit but gets a laugth out of you, no, just useless and obnoxious.
>>335188246
PS3 version is perfectly playable, but there are many minor glitches and some textures are WORSE (noticeably worse).
...I think Qwark is funny. He gets some good jokes. Hell, he got pretty much the only good jokes in the PS4 game.
>>335168116
underrated tbqh
>Play Ratchet 2016.
>Go through cheats.
>Set game speed to Fast
>Enable the turn bolts into rings cheat
And that's how you turn this game into a Sonic game.
>>335188591
>>335188708
Ok, I'll get the PS2 version, then.
>>335188643
It's available on the PS3 store, but it's not in the HD collection.
>>335189219
Yes anon, that's what I said, that it wasn't in the collection but that I still recommended getting it.
>>335167782
that's not UYA
>>335168116
People are right to say it's missing some of the charm that made the first three Ratchet games so GOAT to so many. Weaker level design plus no playable Clank. The (comparatively) grimdark setting is balanced out by some of the series best humour imo.
But this is my personal favourite.
I think the Arena challenges (especially the gauntlets you have to run before you fight a boss) are fun as fuck and hugely underrated. Had some of the best weapons of any game in the series too.
>>335168116
The combat and weapons were so fucking good. It only had around 7 or 8 but they were so well rounded that they were all you ever needed. Compared to 1 and especially 2's weapon selection where 60% of weapons are shit.
All it was missing to be the best game in the series was an actual game instead of a bunch of missions.
>>335168116
>dual vipers
>scorpion flail
>hunter mine launcher
>actually useful holoshield gun
>harbinger
>arbiter
Deadlocked had some good weapons
>no breast expansion bug in the reboot
SOILED IT
>>335189727
This, right here. I loved the weapons, and the challenges, and how you could seriously grind out your equipment (and that you could only go above level 7 weapons, I think, after beating the game).
The biggest thing I wish they would've done is to make a "free roam" style of each planet, where you could actually explore the entire map in one unbroken segment.
But then again, I'm the type of gamer who can find enjoyment in nearly any game, unless it's abjectly terrible. I recently played All 4 One, and enjoyed it plenty even though it's fairly different and mostly looked down on. Surprisingly, people were still playing it online, although it might've been in anticipation of the reboot game and movie. But it was great for what it was, and honestly amazing that they managed to make it both online AND couch co-op compatible, at the same time. How many games boast couch co-op at all anymore, much less having it be completely compatible with online co-op?
>>335190708
>no plumbers crack
>>335190708
>>>bug
>>335190491
>holoshield ruined in PS3 port
This rage doesn't describe my disappointment.
>>335168116
Quick, favourite weapon and mod loadout.
Hunter mine launcher plus napalm. It was the only good mod on it.
>>335191681
How was it ruined? I never played the ps3 port
>>335191887
Mods don't seem to work when enemy touches barrier, they walk through.
>>335167990
>those seizure inducing fucking turrets
Jesus fucking christ I hated it
I remember this game having a few bullshit segments that i found tedious. UYA was a much more fun experience for me.
>>335167782
Now, how can Going Commando be the best if Up Your Arsenal improved on everything, and I do mean everything, that Going Commando did? From strafing, to vehicles, to weapons, to armor to the story and comedy, Up Your Arsenal is still the gold standard.
>>335191681
>Poison Dual Vipers
BRRRRRRRRRT
>>335191681
Leviathan Flail with lightning.
>>335167990
>can do damage to boss before fight even starts
>get out of turret, those flying shits just explode into it causing no damage to either you or turret
that fight is literally 0 threat bullet sponge: the boss
I still say:
>Going Commando had the best mini-games and sidestuff.
>Up Your Arsenal is just straight up the best traditional-style R&C game overall.
>Deadlocked has the best comedy and multiplayer.
>Crack in Time has the best Clank sections and platforming.
And while I'm only halfway done with my Challenge Mode playthrough, I think R&C might just have the best combat (and aesthetics obviously) in the series. Shame the story is so obviously incomplete though, because if not for that (and the lack of an arena) it might have cracked into my top 3 for the series.
>>335196209
Your opinion is okay, and mine is irrelevant.
However, I want to bring up the fact that, after R&C3, you can OP yourself in challenge mode. You can OP yourself SO HARD, nothing will be a challenge.
Insomniac never fixed that. So, to have some challenge, you have to replay the games, and re-do all the skill points.
>>335193816
god damn, courtney gears.
she does things to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4SsMtmcf4w
garbage video quality but fuck, i'd bet you three fiddy she's what gave me my robofetish.
the fight was fun, too.
Anyone else pleasantly surprised with the OST in the new game?
It's not as good as David Bergaud's stuff, but a lot of it still distinctly 'feels' like a proper R&C ost - even with the obvious orchestral influence/elements.
Its honestly better than I'd hoped, even if its still not great.
>>335196543
*after, and including R&C that is
>>335196671
Overpower.
Learn to acronyms.
>>335193816
I actually think it did a few things wrong compared to GC.
>Cut out fuckhueg flying around levels rather than trying to refine them
>Same for the races and ship sections; I still think both were fun and could have been made way better with ease
>Tyranids were way less funny than Thugs 4 Less
>Ranger missions were pretty shit and needed way more variety, felt like they were included just to make extra use of the MP assets
>Soundtrack had less memorable tracks overall, even if its peaks were arguably higher
Still the better game tho
>>335196749
It has moments where it comes through.
>>335193816
If they remake UYA she will be butchered. God I want to suck oil out of her robo asshole
Perfect tier.
>Going Commando
>Up Your Arsenal
Great but showing its age tier.
>R&C
Great but why is it so short tier.
>Deadlocked/Gladiator
>Good but watered down writing tier.
Tools of Destruction
Quest for Booty
>Good gameplay but who the fuck wrote this dialogue/plot tier.
Crack in Time
>Oh shit nigger what are you doing tier.
Pretty much everything else.
>>335198054
>>Good gameplay but who the fuck wrote this dialogue/plot tier.
>Crack in Time
It wasn't as good as most of the other writing, i'll grant you that, but Nefarious was still amazing.
>>335198054
>Going "filler levels, shitty boss fights, poorly thought out weapons, and half-assed mechanics" Commando in perfect
>R&C above Deadlocked and CiT
>QfBon the same tier as ToD
>both above CiT
Fucking awful list
>>335198054
Pretty much half your list is wrong
>>335199980
>poorly thought out weapons
the fuck are you talking about, GC had the best weapon selection in the entire seriesexcept clank zapper and shiteor gun
>>335198620
"And then I said, "Not so smart now, are you?" Get it? Because he's a moron!"
Best game of the series coming through
>>335200151
And the Zodiac, and the Spiderbot glove, and the shield charger, and so on.
Seriously half the decent weapons were literally taken from R&C itself, and even some of the good original ones were still poorly balanced and massively OP - like The Bouncer.
>>335200518
>Spiderbot glove
>bad
fukkin fite me
A crack in time would be the best if it wasn't for having too many great clock sections. Also planets being empty when you revisit them.
>ariana grande in the next game as ratchet s girlfriend.
>>335179350
I loved it. Had a slightly open world theme which would have been feat if they went full jak and daxter 1 and had the entire island open for exploration.
>God Tier
Up Your Arsenal
Crack in Time
>Great tier
Going Commando
Deadlocked/Gladiator
>Good tier
R&C
R&C (PS4)
Into the Nexus
>Decent tier
Tools of Destruction
Quest for Booty
>Low tier
The rest.
>>335201073
Now THIS is a list I can agree with.
>>335200796
It literally should have been a gadget instead of a weapon.
>>335201440
Why? It was fun as a weapon, and insanely useful.
>>335190491
I never realised how useful the holoshield gun was until I played Deadlocked again a couple weeks ago. It actually made it to level 10 before any other weapon.Hero difficulty barely gives you enough ammo to beat the stages, holy shit.
>>335201073
Now this I can get behind.
Nefarious is GOAT villain.
>>335201073
good list
>>335201073
I enjoyed size matters and even completed seet agent clank a couple of times, they weren't that bad
>>335201767
Not like he has much competition. Drek is basically just Kevin Michael Richardsons voice, and since they removed him with a phoning it in Paul Giamatti so he's worthless now. Tachyon is okay but very rarely great. Thugs 4 Less are hilarious but never threatening. The Prog siblings are cool, but they're only antagonists for half of their short game. The only villain near Nefarious' level is Captain Slag and he's only the secondary villain of his game.
Is the new game any good? I saw it pretty cheap (for Australia) and was thinking about getting it. My thumb is fucked at the moment, so I'll have to wait a week or 2 anyway.
>>335202760
It's a reboot of the first game.
It features a lot of the worlds from the first game remastered to a beautiful level.
However, some of the most impactful levels of the original game were cut, partially due to the movie tie-in, partially due to modern development taking a fuckload more time to do the graphics right. Gemlik, Orxon, Oltanis, and Veldin(being destroyed) are the most notable ones.
Many levels are 1:1 recreations surprisingly which is an extremely nostalgic blast to the past when playing them.
The original Ratchet and Clank's actual combat aged like milk so being able to play it with modern controls is new.
Weapon selection is somewhat disappointing, taking very few of the original game's weapons and reusing many weapons from across the series. Zurkon shows up yet again.
This is an actual spoiler,Nefarious is the final boss instead of Drek.
If you're not very nitpicky, or never played the first game, then it's pretty great. If you have played the first game though, some of the changes and cuts might feel a bit jarring.
>>335203609
I've never played the first one, or any of the ps2 ones.
I've got Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty, and A Crack in Time, and I enjoyed all of those.
>>335204061
Then you'll love this. It's the new origin story and it's 2/3rds the price of a normal game for 10 to 12 hours of gameplay.
>>335203609
So how IS Nerfarious? He's human now apparently. I guess to set up for a sequel and make him a robot again.
>>335204369
Cheers lad. I'll pick it up when this heals.
>>335204529
He only appears in the game twice andI'm assuming he'll appear more in the movie
he comes out of nowhere and turns drek into a sheep
>>335204061
Then there's absolutely no reason you wouldn't enjoy the newest game.
Though I do recommend giving the first game a try to see what the cut levels were like eventually. The very first game also had one of the best OSTs in the entire series. Gemlik is an amazing level.
>>335168116
It's a good game and had the best coop, but claiming it was the best in the series is how I know most of /v/ has objectively shit taste.
>>335168116
>bot 1 was an ice cold killer
>bot 2 was this soft gentle soul with a stutter
>finding out what bot 2 went through
>>335191224
This. I am pretty sure that Mike and/or Tony (AKA the Developer Commentary guys) confirmed it was an intentional secret someone put in there.
>>335205429
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10020288
>you will never make love to your well endowed boss's daughter
THE SUFFERING
WONT
END
>>335195849
>that fight is literally 0 threat bullet sponge: the boss
You say that like it makes this boss anymore fun.
>>335205429
I wanna fuck that Lombax
>>335168116
I want to say this had the best online mode of the Ratchet games, but R&C3 was just so good.
>>335205429
so every girl Lombax is tall nice
It was easier than I expected getting the Platinum for the new game. I was almost certain my Groovitron run was going to fail the first time, but I managed to be thorough enough. For anyone still trying to get said trophy, Groovitron EVERYTHING, even NPCs and enemies who only appear once or twice for a short moment (like Brax or the tentacles on the train or the Sharkigators out of the water).
I hope the next remake (I'm assuming UYA) doesn't wait to coincide with a movie, otherwise it'll be fucking forever before we see a remake with objectively better Future weapons
>>335205579
>you will never make love to your well endowed boss's daughter
One, I am pretty sure Mr. Fizzwidget is NOT Angela's father. Two, Mr. Fizzwidget's man-tits aren't THAT big.
>>335207135
I just hope they'll eschew with the remakes and just make a brand new original story and game. It's a new universe and they're no longer tied down by continuity. Time to get crazy.
>>335207753
The movie sets up Nefarious being a robutt, I don't know what they're gonna do from there
>>335204529
I think having him as a human in this game was the right choice, it's a reboot so might as well have a version of him prior to him falling into that vat of robots.
>>335206359
>tfw trying to get faster than a speeding ameboid
seriously why the fuck is this several times more tedious thank kalebo thunder
>>335211974
KEK. I got kalebo thunder the second run. Would have been first but I missed one of the gates to open the first shortcut. Smh.
>>335214434
This, only I got Kalebo Thunder the first time beating that Gold Cup. Faster than a Speeding Ameboid took a bit though, like 20 minutes worth of attempts.
>>335171816
They got along alright, Ratchet was just more lackadaisical about saving the universe until Qwark backstabbed him and he got all pissy and forgot the mission.
>>335198620
Armin Shimerman is fucking great.
i got the first one a few days ago and ive been playing it for a bit
does it get better?
>>335216846
Do you mean the first game or the series as a whole?
>>335216939
the first game
i just sorta assumed the sequels would be better
>>335167782
CiT is the best
>>335217454
For the most part, they are. Strafing really adds a lot to the combat as you can just jump around like a ninja and blast enemies while switching weapons and just loading the screen with the chaos of blasts and explosions. First game's controls might not have been bad, but it basically felt like Spyro with guns and at times Ratchet felt kind of clunky compared to what he controls like from the second game and onward.
>>335217454
Actually yes. The Ratchet and Clank series builds off each game really. However I would argue that in the PS3 Future era Insomniac gets a bit lazy with a few weapons. And by that I mean Mr Zurkon and The Groovatron
>>335217454
How far are you into the first game? Ratchet starts out as a cynical 2cool4you dude, but he gets better. The game also gets better as you buy more and more varied types of guns. But if you still don't like it, no worries. The sequels are infinitely better.
>>335217653
He felt slippery too
So are we ever getting a proper sequel or are we straight up rebooting everything given the movie?
>>335217713
i left off at a puzzle with the water gun where i drowned alot
>>335217807
If the movie does well we're probably getting more reboots
>>335217807
were remaking all the games and then well do a 3rd reboot where we remake all the games again except with even more dreamworks face
>>335167782
I actually just started it after beating the first one today. It's pretty good, the weapons feel like they work a lot better now.
>>335217845
Rilgar, maybe? If so, yeah that part always pissed me off too. But it does get better. Like others said, Ratchet feels a little clunky compared to the sequels and no strafing sucks, but it's a pretty solid game.
>>335217730
How so? Most I recall having replayed a bit of the original not too long ago was him just sort of controlling like he was in a box that was hindering his ability to move efficiently.
The best thing this game did for the series was add gladiator matches
>>335218243
And adding strafing
>>335168116
Still Got 2 copies,online was rad
>>335217845
>>335218085
Dear god that flooding tunnel stressed me out as a kid. Blackwater gave me nightmares
>>335218318
>the demo section
Truly hell on earth.
>>335217845
Spam the shit out of the R1+X forward dash and you can clear it in no time at all.
>>335178134
You missed like, 30% of the game being about Qwark running away from the one thing he never wanted people to find out.
Still the best song in the series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1DG9M-V_JY
>>335211548
>mfw I gave my HD collection and CiT to my friend's kid
I hope he's having fun
>>335211548
so is ratchet actually aging throughout the games, because he looks considerably older in Deadlocked, but I'm not sure if it's just the perspective or not.
Holy fuck, you nigs are making me want to pick up the HD collection, should I?
>>335219324
Yeah
>>335219023
Pretty much. I don't think it's ever been said if the amount of time is equal to how long the series has been around, but he's much older in CiT than he was in R&C1.
>>335219324
Yeah go for it. Up Your Arsenal is still one of the strongest installments and its Dr Nefarious's first game
>>335219324
Absolutely
>>335219464
Well that's pretty cool. You don't have a lot of cartoon-looking game series that actually age their characters.
>>335204529
Humans don't exist in R&C, he and Qwark look human but they only got 3 fingers.
>>335220178
I thought Insomniac said somewhere that earth and humans do exist, just FAR away from all the shit going on in R&C.
>>335219964
He was like 15 in the first game, during the PS2 era each new game came out like a year later so Ratchet was a year older in each sequel. Same thing with Jak & Daxter, funny thing is Jak was the same age as Ratchet.
That's not UYA OP
>>335219324
By all means. If you're curious about the PS4 in any way, best to play the original trilogy so you'll be better informed about things. Reboot game is pretty much a love-letter to the franchise.
>>335201073
>R&C
>not great tier
>>335178630
I wonder how they'll spin this one to give Jak the edge since he doesn't have the fire power to deal with any of Ratchet's late game armors.
>>335220763
It has aged. It's got some of the best things in the series, but the sequels iterated where it was necessary and it shows.
It's why the PS4 version was kind of a let down. This was their chance to give it an awesome remake, and it was good in a lot of ways, but failed in many others.
>>335220889
Jak has magic powers and guns. I could see it.
Then again, Ratchet has a black hole gun.
...eh.
>>335220561
Still kind of irks me that Jak and Keira are supposed to be the same age. But kid Jak in Jak II is already like 3 or something. So unless Keira was adopted like Jak would be by his "uncle", the blatant disregard for any sense of consistency is just astounding.
>>335220964
It's not a remake, it's a movie tie in reimagining from the perspective of someone who hardly interacted with him. It's not like it retcons the first game.
>>335220553
>muh suspension of belief
>>335220553
That makes sense, I bet the same happens in real life too with us being too far away from any advanced civilization.
>>335220964
>Magic powers
Time Stop is the only OP one, and we already know time shenanigans don't affect Ratchet because of Clank.
Everything else, can be tanked with end-game armors. And then Ratchet's firepower is in the stupidly overpowered, most destructive weapons in the universe-tier.
>>335221068
Well Samos never mentioned ever having a wife so she probably is adopted, she doesn't really look like him either.
>>335221391
yeah, not being green and all that
The Ratchet games are better than the Jak games, this is true.
But holy shit does Daxter blow the fuck out of Secret Agent Clank.
>>335167990
This fight is actually really fun if you don't use the turrets.
which is odd, because even on the dev LP they said you're supposed to use the turrets
>>335221391
Pretty sure he mentions her mother at least once, who she most likely took after in looks.
>>335176739
Shove it up your arsenal, I'm going commando with 4play in a full frontal assault to make you look like a stupid bitch on my quest for booty. Seems you are deadlocked on being a fucking fag, your comments about the plot really are dated. Stop being a clock blocker and understand that the future series is Sonic fan fiction tier. Honestly size matters when it comes to these games, and the future series just doesn't stack up. The older games are much better in just about every way. Go play the HD collection and look at the attention to detail in so many aspects of the game. It's really secret agent clank.
>>335221146
That literally has nothing to do with the point at hand, that earth and humans could exist and just aren't getting involved.
>>335204529
>Nefarious
>human
Lol? Nefarious is a green orc looking alien.
>>335221068
I want to impregnate Keira
>>335221263
>he thinks using using light eco to slow down the fabric of the universe to a near halt is mere "time stopping"
>he thinks clank can do anything against it
>>335171216
>dickbag ratchet
>bad
My biggest issue with reboot and clank was how they replaced ratchet's character with charlie bucket. 5 Minutes into the game and Ratchet and Clank are best buddies and giving everyone diabetes. Dickbag ratchet and blackmailing Clank were way more fun to way.
>>335221487
Size matters is alright if you force some better controls onto it with an emulator, but yeah no the PSP ratchet games weren't too great.
>>335221674
>that the future series is Sonic fan fiction tier
Yea, no.
>>335171816
They got a long as fine as two complete strangers would given their scenario.
I like using this scene for example.
https://youtu.be/jvwhPOt5X_8?t=8m45s
If he was really as much of a dick as everyone likes to say he is, he would have actually sold Clank for the Ryno really early on. He's just a snarky sarcastic fuck, he's not an asshole.
>>335221861
SM was fine as a follow-up game to the original, but since it's apparently before even Deadlocked, it just felt like the makers didn't even know about GC or UYA.
>>335221910
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE LEFT! DRAMA! CHOSE ONE! CLANK IS ACTUALLY NOT A DEFECT BUT A TIME GOD! LOOK MARY SUE IS BACK IN FULL FORCE! EVERONE IS A MARY SUE! WOW SO EPIC BECAUSE DRAMATIC MUSIC DURING MEME SEQUENCES OF FORCED PRETENTIOUS NONSENSE! LETS NOT HAVE FUN WITH DANGER, LETS BROOD AND BE HESITANT TO CREATE GRAVITAS BECAUSE WE GOT A "REAL" WRITER!
>>335221781
>Dickbag ratchet and blackmailing Clank were way more fun to way.
Honestly them starting this way gave the friendship they had in future games more weight, at least I thought so.
>>335222104
Of course it does. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
