Pick one, /v/
Choc
Vanilla. I don't take risks.
>>335077008
Vanilla
Strawberry just for shits and giggles.
Strawberry is a trap. Vanilla all the way.
Vanilla
If you do the math, the strawberry does much less damage, while vanilla and choco are pretty much the same.
>>335077008
they're all the same
>>335077008
How fast are the attacks? if quick strawberry if slow as fuck Vanilla
Depends on monsters HP.
If I'm going in blind I take vanilla
>>335077008
Vanilla because missing is frustrating.
>>335077725
You have sight in one eye, but you have no sense of smell or taste.
You'd have to be a retard to not pick Strawberry. The other 2 cant even crit
>>335077008
>anything less than 100% accuracy
>letting the RNG fuck you over
Vanilla.
>>335077008
Does the strawberry sword work off a hit table or is the proc 25% chance on hit?
>30% miss
>45% 60 damage
>25% 120 damage
or
>30% miss
>52.5% 60 damage
>17.5% 120 damage
>>335077008
vanilla
anyone who picks chocolate is a faggot
>>335077886
You would be relying on a 17% chance of landing a good hit that is also a crit. So Strawberry is the most retarded option.
you faggots will argue over anything
>>335077008
so if the vanilla sword never misses, does that mean I can flail about like a retard 200 miles away and hit what I was "aiming" at?
>>335077862
Good thing to, made fuckin your mom last night tolerable
>>335078201
The sword has better reach
>>335078330
My dick has better reach
>>335078201
make the hilt into something novel like a tail and we have a deal for the cock knife
>>335078201
dildo, minmax4lyfe
>>335078330
where does it say that
>>335077008
what if every enemy only has 50 hp
then you should always take vanilla
>>335078201
REACH > DMG
>>335078201
>more damage
>useful outside of combat
>probably make people butthurt figuratively
An obvious choice
>>335078330
this guy gets it
>>335078203
Kill yourself
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>>335078201
Sword has better reach and I have a severe tear in my spinchter so pleasing myself is out of the question.
>>335078384
My dick is a 2H weapon.
>>335078313
Holy shit.. that was brutal
>>335078569
Why?
can't let you have all that sweet cocaine can I
>>335078313
>>335078646
loli hands don't count
>>335077008
What about Banana, Caramel, and Mocha swords?
>>335077008
dps fags blown the fuck out
>>335079146
loli hands are the only hands that count
Vanilla sword gives the most reliable consistent damage. 100% means it will never miss and in 100 swings will have given 7,500 damage.
Chocolate sword deals higher damage which may be good for clearing smaller creatures but has a miss chance. In 100 swings, given the miss chance, it too will have dealt 7,500 damage if it hits every time it is supposed to, but with the potential to miss or hit, it has a predictive range of 6,500-8,500.
Strawberry sword just blows and is all over the place. In 100 swings, with 70 being hits, 30 being misses, and 25% of the hits being crits, you're only looking at about 5,280 damage output. Even if you give it a wider crit margin of 40% of your hits being crits and still landing 70 of the 100 swings you'd be looking at 5,880 damage.
In short, vanilla = chocolate >>> strawberry.
Well?
Vanilla total after 100000 rounds: 7500075
Chocolate total after 100000 rounds: 7502300
Strawberry total after 100000 rounds: 3920280
Code here: http://pastebin.com/raw/twLDGQpd
Chocolate wins.
>>335077008
Depends on how damage reduction/defense works in the game.
If the enemy has 60 defense and that mitigates 60 of vanilla's damage, you're doing 15 a hit. Meanwhile for chocolate you're doing 40 a hit for a reasonable 75% of the time.
But if the enemy's 60 defense means it cuts damage by 60% then it don't matter.
Strawberry sword is retard for big hits realm.
>>335079314
It depends on how defense affects damage. Chocolate would probably be superior
depends
vor pve vanilla
for pvp
chocolate
>>335079392
As a smith I would say all of these armors would sell well.
Vanilla = 75 * 1 = 75 e_damage / hit
Chocolate = 100 *.75 = 75 e_damage / hit
Strawberry's description is ambiguous
Strawberry1 = .70 * (.25 * 120 + .75 * 60) = 52.5 e_damage / hit
Strawberry2 = .25 * 120 + .45 * 60 = 57 e_damage / hit
So go either vanilla or chocolate, but if you pick strawberry, you're a loser, it's substantially weaker
>>335079483
Oops, nested my shit wrong.
Vanilla total after 100000 rounds: 7500075
Chocolate total after 100000 rounds: 7504600
Strawberry total after 100000 rounds: 5249580
http://pastebin.com/raw/4Vh2RJbw
Small gain for strawb, not enough to make a difference.
>>335079591
Is that an actual band? It looks like awkward teenagers pretending.
>>335079392
>Get hit with less than 10 damage
>Heal
>>335079584
One can only assume that based on the stats given, that defense is not a factor. There could be tons of other stats, agility, evasion, toughness, status effects, damage reduction... But there's no sense in worrying about them because they aren't mentioned.
Chocolate is most likely superior because in 100 swings, if chocolate hits 71 times it has beaten vanilla. However, I like vanilla for consistency. It will always do 7,500 in 100 swings where chocolate works in a range because it can miss.
>>335079392
baby blue
>>335079852
yes it is a band
look up wizard.(one z) it is funny as fuck
>>335079918
>50% chance to drop on swing
>>335079706
Strawberry fags BTFO in game and life.
>>335077008
Strawberry is a shit sword that misses more and only has a 1/4 chance of being like chocolate.
>>335077008
If both try for 100 hits,
Vanilla:
75x100 = 7500
Chocolate:
100x(100-25) = 7500
Strawberry:
60x((100-30)x1.25) = 5250
Strawberry is mathematically weaker. You are literally gimping yourself if you choose strawberry. Vanilla and Chocolate will do the same damage with 100 swings, but Vanilla is more consistent, and therefore the better option.
>>335080189
There's 2 or 3 with that name.
Which is it? The German one?
>>335080212
>once dropped, is considered dirty, and people look at you funny if you continue to use it
>>335077008
The first 2 are the same the last one is shit
>>335077008
>this thread again
LISTEN DUMBFUCKS STRAWBERRY IS THE BEST WITH HIGH ATTACK SPEED
VANILLA IS THE BEST IF SLOW ATTACK SPEED
CHOCOLATE IS BAD
>>335080603
you're a fucking retard
>>335080879
he's right and if you're this person >>335080762
you are the retard my main man
>>335080879
explain
>>335080490
of course the Germans
odin was the album i bought back in the days
>>335078313
Devastating.
Patch v.0001 UPDATE
>Strawberry sword has been buffed
>Calculations are found through >>335079695 's "Strawberry1" formula
>Strawberry sword can now give off strawberry fragrance
>>335081549
balance_patches.png
>>335081549
That buff didn't really help a lot
>>335081549
>Strawberry sword can now give off strawberry fragrance
Picked up
>>335081549
AH SHIT
I fucked up the numbers.
HOLD ON A SECOND
>>335078313
Why would anyone let RNG fuck them over? At any single point there's a small chance you might miss like 10 attacks in a row even with 75% hit rate
The only perfectly logical weapon is Vanilla, with which you may or may not need to swing more times than you would with the others.
Starberry is the dumbest by far though
>>335082219
>not breaking the game with high luck and alchemy builds
>>335081750
>7 mins later
k im making the next balance patch if you don't
>>335079918
Vanilla total after 100000 rounds: 7500000
Chocolate total after 100000 rounds: 7501600
Strawberry total after 100000 rounds: 5271360
Neopolitan total after 100000 rounds: 6931002
It's still very much a Vanilla/Chocolate game. Honestly I would just pick Vanilla since missing sucks.
Checkmate atheists.
>>335081549
Updated for v0.0001
Vanilla total after 100000 rounds: 7500000
Chocolate total after 100000 rounds: 7484600
Strawberry total after 100000 rounds: 5359573
Neopolitan total after 100000 rounds: 6924294
Wow! Such a big difference!
>>335078313
Fucking savage m8
>>335077008
The enemy will likely have 100 health, so a chocolate sword is a 75% chance of an instakill and the vanilla sword will never get an instakill.
>>335082620
Actually, the enemy will likely have 75 health.
I don't have a pic but,
>best looking weapon in the whole game: 90 damage
>literally the worst looking weapon in-game, and not in a silly way. It just looks horrible: 100 damage
Do you take the 10% damage increase or look dope AF? What if you could brag about your good gear? What if you couldn't? Would that influence your choice?
Cherry sword
100 damage
100 accuracy
1% chance on hit to instantly kill enemy
1% chance on hit to instantly kill yourself
NEW PATCH HIT!!!!!!!
>>335082719
>10%
>>335079146
>Not wanting loli hands on your dick
Someone post it. You know what I'm talking about.
>>335082883
aw man I just finished
Oh well, your's is better
>>335079392
Brown clearly
>>335082883
Vanilla total after 100000 rounds: 7500000
Chocolate total after 100000 rounds: 7472700
Strawberry total after 100000 rounds: 7490637
Neopolitan total after 100000 rounds: 6923982
More balanced sure, but at this point why not just pick the fucking one that will never miss.
>>335082883
listen m8, if I fight 100 enemies that all have 50 health, the vanilla sword will ensure they all die with one hit.
>>335083196
What if they have 90 health?
>>335083132
Because I like big tits and big crits
>>335077008
If pokemon has taught me anything, 75% is more like 5% when it actually counts. I'll take vanilla, thanks.
>>335078313
s-shut up feg
>>335083132
Your program sucks at using chocolate sword
>>335077008
>not weilding them Rorona zoro style for a Neapolitan Onikiri
>>335083449
If Xcom has taught me anything, hit rates are extremely misrepresented and nothing matters who cares.
>>335078313
>>335077008
How much health do you have?
If it's lower, accuracy becomes way more important.
>>335078313
oh god that was glorious
>>335077008
Vanilla because its the best flavor.
>>335077008
If I use the strawberry sword in my fap hand i'd be able to cut mountains
>>335077008
Chocolate and Vanilla are basically the same damage output, assuming that chocolate misses every fourth attack; however, if chocolate can randomly miss three attacks in a row due to that unlucky 25%, then it makes a major difference. I'll go with Vanilla to ensure I never miss, the 25 damage gap is small enough that it'll make up for it if Chocolate users miss a bunch. Strawberry is just shit all around, it would be better of double damage was a 40% chance.
>>335084670
strawberry was buffed famalam >>335082883
>>335077008
Mathematically, strawberry works out quite a bit worse if the 25% is only applied after the hit roll is a success.
>>335085042
spoiler: even if it is the other order the 1.0 version still sucks
>>335084785
>>335082883
>Damage that goes into decimals
Round that shit, son. No need for perfect balance down to the hundredth place.
>25% chance and you can't miss beforehand
Yeah, I'd say strawberry is still the worst option. It's not shit now, but I see it as the weakest just due to the odds. It's kinda like the option for that kid that chooses the 1% instant kill weapon, albeit not as bad.
>>335079910
> take a nasty hit
> ask friend to lightly hit you as many times as they can
magenta armor OP as fuck till the bug gets patched
>>335083132
Vanilla is boring m8.
>>335077008
Chocolate and vanilla swords both work out to 75 damage per hit overall, of course. Strawberry is a sucker's game.
If the 25% roll is applied after the to-hit roll (that is, an attack only has a 25% chance to do double damage if it has already passed the 70% attack roll), then it will average 52.5 damage per attack. If the two chances are combined into one roll (i.e., roll 1-25 to do double damage, 26-70 to do normal damage, 71-00 to miss), then it will average 57 damage per hit. If, under the best case scenario, the sword has a 25% chance to do automatic double damage, and only rolls to hit if that misses (i.e., the if you fail the 25% roll, you roll 70% to hit), then it will average out to 72 damage per attack - still falling short of chocolate and vanilla.
With all that in mind, I'd chose vanilla. I want to know I can rely on my weapon to hit when I need it to.
>>335078201
But what is my character wearing? You have to take the full look into account!
The results are in!
Number of attacks: 1000 (Averaged over 100 iterations)
Damage done by
Vanilla: 75000 Chocolate: 75073 Strawberry: 57346
>>335078437
That would irrelevant.
However, if every enemy has, say, 80 HP, then that makes things more interesting.
Seeing how nearly everyone picks vanilla instead of chocolate for the reliability, how much damage would you add to the chocolate sword to consider picking it over the vanilla one?
>>335083713
>Your program sucks at using chocolate sword
>>335079314
>100x100= 7,500
wew
>>335085981
Just nerf vanilla by 5 damage. It's small enough that it won't gimp it but still big enough over time that it gives more importance to the two sword's accuracy.
>>335082883
Strawberry is now stronger by a very very slight degree. I'd still go vanilla just so I don't get fucked by the RNG.
>>335078313
*too
>>335077008
chocolate all the way
>>335077008
Chocolate sword in main hand for SA/TA weapon skills, vanilla sword in offhand.
>>335077008
Chocolate and vanilla sword are essentially the same if the fight lasts 4 turns or more, Strawberry is too risky. I'm going Vanilla because it will almost always work best.
Reminder that diamond+ethereal is god tier.
Gun with high range but low damage and medium fire rate
Gun with high range but medium damage and very slow fire rate
Gun with medium range but high medium and medium fire rate
Gun with medium range but low damage and very high fire rate
Gun with low range but very high damage and medium fire rate
The lower the range the higher the AOE damage. Headshots crit.
>>335087023
Blood is too good to pass up, Poison and Diamond are pretty neat.
>>335087023
Haste and diamond. That crit chance would be bumped up to about 75% with 150% attack speed
>>335086260
What are you talking about?
>>335087023
Blood + Spikes probably outsustains other more offensive combinations
>>335087023
go rage + blood for the lategame.
Vanilla.
Missing makes me have a fucking stroke.
>>335078313
>>335078313
>>335087023
Fire+Ghost would be fucking awesome if it also had a chance to inflict burning. 150% attack damage + another 50% of that = I'm busting 225% on your punk ass each HIT.
>>335087023
I'm so bored I might try to make this into an online game
>>335087023
Diamond + Ghost.
>if the crit doesn't happen the first strike, there's a chance it'll happen again for slightly less damage
>>335079392
Brown for those low HP high DMG runs
>>335088256
do this instead
>3d voxel terrain
>based on aspects of ace of spades and TF2
>goal is to get intel from other team
>builders are the only ones who can edit terrain and make bases
>water is fatal
>>335077008
strawberry because its cuter than the other swords
>>335088474
actually use these instead
the designs are much better
same concept though
>>335088652
>Attack disables teamchat on hit
I'd shit my pants the first time I saw one of those blue fuckers.
>>335078313
I don't need a flag to know you're Australian m8
>>335077008
>Wanting misses
STUN LOCK TO WIN
>>335088652
Brown and yellow seem unnecessary
>>335088652
It's amazing how every single one of these is over-powered as fuck, yet they're still balanced by each others OPness and some of the team-work factors. Overall, this would be a hell of a game to make with how much idea-guy-with-no-sense-of-scope tier shit there is,but it'd be pretty cool regardless. Though I think teams should be limited to 7, just because of how powerful everyone already is.
>>335089560
the whole list needs to be reworked honestly. the designs are solid though.
I didn't make the image, it's been around for ages
>>335077008
they're probably statistically identical
>>335087023
Haste + ghost, just gonna DEX the fuck out of anything I go up against
>>335089560
Browns are offensive map control experts, yellows are supportive crowd de-buff experts, it would seem.
>>335082883
I choose
>1 damage
>100% accuracy
>2% chance to crit for 50000% damage
>>335090149
dude you're cruising for death faggot
>>335079392
All of the armor suck for bossing. Not a single one can save you from a fatal blow beside maybe the brown one if you get lucky and reach a threshold where the attack is strong enough to get you below 25 HP but weak enough to not kill you. At that point you may as well just get blue if you are willing to gamble that much or Cyan as it is literally the same thing over the long term without the gamble.
The only place these armor would be decent for is grinding/farming. Pink would be the best as it have the potential of healing more damage than it takes. Hell there is a major clue of what the best armor is from the start. "Attacks cannot be reduced to below 1 damage".
>>335090287
>mfw I crit you first attack
>>335090762
>mfw you die instantly
>>335079392
>Bring high speed shit damage character
>Ask him to keep hitting you with his worst attacks
>yfw
>>335088652
Updated designs
>>335078201
I'll always use slightly inferior items if doing so makes me look better.
>>335079392
Brown is shit, if you can't drop damage below 1 you'll die in 25 hits regardless of how little they hit you for. In fact any armor except magenta would be beaten by hitting for 1 very very quickly.
>>335078201
I never thought min-maxing could ever achieve homo status
>>335091167
>Purple got thicker thigh-plates
>>335087023
haste+fire looks pretty solid. i dont like crit builds anyway
>>335078313
Jeez anon
>>335077008
Strawberry is basically a gambling sword depending on crits, but the crits hardly do more damage than Chocolate's regular swings. Chocolate returns the most reward for much less risk.
>>335091167
I WANT TO FUCK THAT PURPLE
>>335090683
>pick pink
>get hit for more damage than your hp
>die before the heal happens
>>335087023
Poison/Haste
Stunlock city boys.
>>335092085
>not big on chatting
>somehow a bad thing
>>335092085
Orc
Fists
Orc Brute
>>335091218
Good thing this time you don't have to settle for the inferior item to get the better looking one.
>>335077008
Vanilla. I win with skill, not tricks.
>>335092085
>orc
>battle axe
>great iron shield
Yeah, this seems pretty good
>fists
FUCK ALL THAT SHIT LET'S PUNCH THINGS
>>335077008
If Pokemon has taught me anything, Vanilla is the best. I can't trust Chocolate Miss.
>>335082449
Why did black's numbers change if the weapon stats stayed the same?
Chocolate misses 25,000 attacks of the 100,000 and does 100 damage for the remaining 75,000 breaking even with Vanilla at 750,000 apiece.
Strawberry misses 30% or 3000 of the attacks. 25% of the remaining 7000 attacks are crits - 1750. That's 214,200 off of crits and 5250 normal hits at 321,300 for a combined total of 535,500.
>>335093197
Okay, but what if I already am alittle girl ;]?
>>335079392
>pick pink
>aggro a shit ton of mobs that do less than 10 damage on me
>>335083116
>>335088457
Brown is dog shit. The effect only activates when you're at exactly 25% hp. Never said 25% or below.
>>335092805
This
>>335093280
>not using tricks
>the whole point of Crazy Diamond is using his repair tricks besides DORA DORA
>>335094462
He's using his power skillfully. He's not tricking anybody.
>>335079392
if they are bursty: Cyan
If they are more DPS: Heal or stacking armor.
>>335078313
>>335077008
Nostalcucks pick Vanilla.
Average damage over 100hits
Vanilla 75dmg
Chocolate 75dmg
Strawberry 52.8dmg
So anything other than strawberry is fine
>>335077008
The strawberry sword would have to have 100% accuracy to be balanced with the others. Choc and vanilla both average 300 damage per 4 hits. Strawberry would only average that much if not a single attack misses. And if it's a crit that misses? GG no re, your DPS is rekt
>>335093197
>4 DEF
>2 STR
>1 SPD
>1 DEX
>3 CHA
>2 MHT
>1 WIS
>>Luck
I am the bro-tier walking tank, defender of loli and slayer of pussy.
>>335096445
>Not going for extra training and getting 4 str, or a big dick to fill the little girls with
>>335078313
This isn't even funny.
Faggots trying to get on reddit: the post
>>335077008
Fuck RNG. Vanilla
>>335078142
In a game with PvP and healing burst damage is most important. Being able to burst down an opponent before his healer can react and heal the damage.
>>335087023
Haste/Death because I'm an edgy faggot who cums buckets on that 1 in 9409 chance of two instakills in a row
