Any good vidya that can be installed on a graphing calculator? Just got myself a new TI-84 Plus C, it's really fancy.
>>335066162
Focus on getting good grades, kid
Pretty sure you can actually run emulators on some of the really fancy ones
Doom, son.
Friend of mines had A Link to the Past on his.
Dont you have a fucking phone to install emulators on ?
If youre going to spend that much on a calculator to play games on it just buy a gaming portable and call it a day
>>335066529
Phones aren't allowed on tests and exams, dummy.
>>335066162
>he fell for the texas instruments meme
>>335066863
>casiofags
Pokemon
>>335066162
Battlefield 3.
>>335066741
>calculators are allowed on tests
what's the point of giving a test if you allow cheating?
>>335067029
Are you 12? Have you ever had any probability or graphing subjects?
>>335067029
Some people continue their education after pre-school. Maths and other number intensive subjects aren't just 2+3=??.
>>335066162
Why are these so fucking expensive?
>>335067234
Same reason textbooks are expensive. You have to buy them.
>>335067029
whats the point of doing anything if you're not naked, tied up, blinded, and drugged? why bother taking tests if you're just gonna cheat by not being as hardcore as i am and doing things the hard way for literally no reason?
>>335067234
Because dumb people can't calculate and there are too many of them on this planet to produce these things so they end up being as expensive as oil.
>>335067029
either not mathbro or under 14
also op pokemon gsc
>>335067234
Because college course require them and the students are pretty much forced to buy them. Its like how publishers will charge $200 for a textbook that is just the previous edition with a different cover.
>>335066741
Couldn't you like take this into an exam with a cheat sheet installed then once you've finished the exam just delete it to avoid being caught?
Never had one this fancy when I was in high school.
>>335067234
Because you can install games on it
>>335067534
Most teachers will require you to clear the calculator's memory before a test.
>>335067534
Most schools require calculators to have their memory reset before exams.
>>335067234
Monopoly. TI is used fucking everywhere as a standard so they can price it however they please.
>>335067608
>>335067643
Ah, that makes sense then.
>>335067608
>>335067643
There's programs to mimic the "RAM cleared" screen, you know.
Although if you're going through all that trouble to cheat you'd be better off studying.
>>335067753
Nobody has ever checked my calculator but that's what I think too. Sure I could come up with some elaborate cheat system but it's better to just study.
Some calculators have external memory cars, so you could keep full it and install it after your memory is "erased"
>>335067157
>>335067162
>>335067391
>>335067509
I've never once, in six math courses at university, used a calculator.
>>335067753
>not enjoying the smug satisfaction of cheating
>not enjoying the thrill of risking expulsion in your heist
>>335067963
how are you supposed to sneak your car into the building?
>>335068001
Confirmed for remedial math.
>>335068001
wow. youre so cool. how can i be like you?
>>335068001
are you like, a math pro bro?
>>335067234
Because America is beyond cucked.
Outside of America, nobody has ever seen a TI, because Casio makes better calculators for a third of the price.
They're still overpriced, but they're not "lol we have a monopoly over education" priced.
>>335068001
You don't use calculators for math, but for engineering courses
>>335068001
So no Tangent, Cosine, or Sine shit? I call bullshit.
>>335066162
>even the shittiest phones are more powerful than these calculators
>can easily install a graphing calculator app on any phone
>you still have to buy these fucking calculators for $100-$300
What the fuck? Why is this still allowed?
>>335068001
I too like spending hours handwriting equations and running massive amounts of calculations to reach the same end product as someone who did it in 2 minutes.
The callouses on my writing hand may be sore, but at least I'm showing those calculator plebians
>tfw all my stats exams are open book
>tfw i just buy the test banks and skip class
>tfw running into the final with 95%
hell yeah
who needs calculators when you have the answers with the solution
>>335068152
>>335068162
>>335068215
>>335068581
>>335068439
It's just not how it's done. Calculators are completely pointless at that level. You may need do some numerical stuff or just some shit that's really hard to do analytically, but then you use a PC with Matlab, usually. Calculators are irrelevant. They're not allowed tools in examinations either.It becomes blaringly obvious who can't do proper maths when something to this effect is stated.
>>335066162
TI-nspire is loads better
>>335066162
>100% positive my qt sand nigger teacher has a foot fetish
>literally cutest shade of brown
>she always walks around barefoot
>puts feet up on table
>wears cute shoes that show her feet
>talks about how she went to highschool barefoot most of the time
>look her up online
>her Instagram has tons of pictures of her feet
What do /v/?I want to fuck her and rub my dick on her feet
>>335069031
also a fuckload more expensive. What field of science/math is that shit even used for? The only use I've seen is a GBC emulator.
>>335068909
I know what you mean. In medical school we never used any tools of any kind. Doctors today get lazy with all their science and medical advancements. I still only use my hands and teeth for operations. Anything else is below my ability. Any nurse who recommends I use a scalpel or even wash my hands, I fire immediately and burn her so no other medical facility will hire her.
>>335069392
I can help you but I'm gonna need to see some pics. If she's a sandnigger there's a risk she might be a terrorist so I need pictures of those feet you're talking about so I can evaluate the risks. I hope you understand.
>>335069575
Full retard.
You've completely missed the point of mathematics.
>>335069392
Compliment her toenail polish if she ever wears any. Make sure she catches you looking at her feet once in a while. If you see her catch you, just smile at her. Eventually she'll catch on that you're into it too, then you can either chance it and make the first move, or wait for her to do it.
>>335069392
>>335069658
I would assume so, since I was speaking of medicine.
>>335069806
Medicine is a physical job. Mathematics isn't. It doesn't make sense to compare the two. It's like saying because I don't use any equipment as a Singer, I also shouldn't as a construction worker, instead I just slam my face against the side of the building until it falls.
>>335069806
Good, I'm glad. That does however seem like a fully retarded way of doing medicine. Which it is.
>>335069498
This one? I found it pretty cheap
>>335069575
Math exams usually aren't about difficult numerical calculations, why should calculators be used?
>>335067753
If you're putting that much effort into it you might as well just learn the material.
>>335070070
Conserving time. Removing tedium
>>335070069
Perhaps I'm thinking of the one with the color screen, THAT one is expensive as fuck for sure.
>footfags trying to hijack a calculator thread
I know it's all shitposting anyway, but god dammit, you guys are worse than undertale, fnaf, [third example of latest furry meme game] posters.
P.S.feet is the most pleb fetish. mutual masturbation master race.
>>335070175
>$1,300 for a calculator with an LED screen
Yeah, fuck that
>parents got me casio
>literally no one knows how to use it, least of all me
>internet was no help
High school math classes fucking sucked because I had to figure out the retarded equivalent of what our teacher was doing on his calculator by myself while still trying to retain what he was talking about.
>>335070070
>Math exams usually aren't about difficult numerical calculations
is this a joke?
a better question is, why is using them bad? and no, dont say its because you personally can calculate the density of a fart just by smelling it. not everyone is autistic. and also no. thats not a dig at you. if you can actually do that kind of shit, you legitimately have some form of autism. everyone else likes not wasting hours over calculations and prefers to just use a calculator. why walk to the next town when you can just fucking drive
>>335067234
No bullshit, because Texas Instruments were involved in the creation of the courses. They just created a monopoly.
>>335066162
The Division
>>335069575
>>335069806
>>335070004
Also, mathematicians use plenty of tools. They're called computers. They run software like Matlab (first mentioned here >>335068909).
But math isn't its tools. Most math that you need to learn as a math students (and others, like engineers) doesn't require any of these tools to be understood, and used to solve problems big and small. The problems aren't the math either. They're just another set of tools, really. Abstractions.
>>335070172
>removing tedium
math is tedious, you can't have math and make it not tedious. at that point you're bypassing the math, which is cheating.
I'm just as a matter of coincidence installing Matlab right now and it's taking fucking forever, I thought it was just a glorified calculator.
>>335070759
>you can't have math and make it not tedious
But you can make it less tedious
>>335070501
It's a very serious matter. Because most people tend to react like you're reacting now, to what I and that guy have said. You react this way because most people have absolutely no idea about what math actually is. They have no idea what we who study it at this (actually pretty basic) level actually do, when we say that we study math.
I'll say it again: no, you don't need a calculator when you study math at university. I don't even fucking know what it'd be good for, even in the entry level courses.Statistics isn't actually a math course either, any more than physics courses are, just FYI.
>>335071373
i hope you realize no one believes your bullshit and no one will fall for your bait
>>335070501
Not a joke. Tedious numerical results are for computers. For understanding, results should be reached purely analytically, not necessarily specifying any numbers at all, and that was how it worked at exams back when I was in uni. I don't see how a calculator would have been much help, really. More applied subjects employing mathematical tools of course used calculators.
>>335070678
please go on, enlighten us..
i think im kinda getting what you mean, but not quite
>>335071589
>i hope you realize no one believes your bullshit and no one will fall for your bait
What do you imagine that a math exam at university is like?
>>335066162
>TI-84 plus c
>fancy
Negro, please. The 89 blows the 84 out of the water.
>>335071763
Also the nspire is fucking rad. Check that shit out.
>>335068001
I dropped university right when I found out I couldn't use calculators, I just can't do mental math, back before calculators I had to write down even single additions, it was embarassing. I guess I have some mental deficit regarding math because other people just aren't that bad
>>335071763
I've used an 89 Titanium but I didn't like it. It was too complicated, and the button layout was weird.
>>335071589
You don't need a calculator to do proofs or apply theorems or whatever.
Are you really this retarded?
>>335071763
TI 89 is also banned in almost every class that allows calculators though.
>>335072003
>I dropped university right when I found out I couldn't use calculators
So, day one or before?
>>335072195
at the very first exam actually, in class I just had to take notes but at the exam there were some tricky things I just couldn't do
>>335072269
Like what, if you don't mind me asking? This is interesting to me.
>tfw brainlet who could barely pass precal
>tfw I can't get over my hatred of calculus since my old teacher was a massive bitch
I envy you mathfags
>>335072405
Triple integrals
>>335071589
This is some child level shit man.
>>335072405
I don't remember, I sure can't do multiplications or division unless it's through the chart I memorized when I was 6 but the exam was data structures so there maybe was some modulo involved or some other stuff I completely forgot, people were pretty surprised that they couldn't use calculators at all, I remember it was something that you could do by hand but it's less of a hassle to do it with a calculator.
huh maybe it had something to do with hash maps, I don't quite remember what mathematical thing was involved
>>335072449
>precalc
>class is fucking miserable and hard as fuck, 70s or below on every test
>actual calc class
>easy as fuck, 90s all day erry day
What's even the fucking point of precalc?
>Took Stats online
Biggest mistake I have ever made in my life. I bombed that shit. The worst part is I have no one to blame it on but me.
>>335072743
I don't fuggin know man, I'm not using any of the shit I learned in precal in calc 1.
Calc 2 is apparently even harder, then calc 3 is slightly easier.
Math is just something you have to jump through hoops like a circus animal for college. Then you go to your job where they laugh how they don't remotely use anything you were forced to take in and regurgitate for tests.
>>335072051
why do you feel calculators are unnecessary? i cant believe im actually falling for this pathetic bullshit. but i will, so explain. why is someone "retarded" for using a calculator? lets go back to the car analogy. you frequently walk to the next town. you do it because you think it helps you better understand the lay of the land and your location. you see me drive by in a car, with gps, and you mutter "retard" under your breath. i COULD walk all the way there too. but i think the difference between us in this situation is that i dont like wasting time and being inefficient. especially if theres tools available that can provide me with the means to do the same job youre doing, quicker. and if you say
>what are you doing wasting time on /v/ then
im sick. im just relaxing today
>summer colds
>>335068909
Where you from buddy ? Just curios
>>335069575
>>335071668
Calculator are the to calculate. You shouldnt be calculating in an exam, you should be doing math.
>>335066363
>>335066248
This is why /v/ is considered contrarian, but it offers both choices.
/v/ is ying and yang
Gotta have the bad, so you can enjoy the good times better. I am waiting for the good times now.
>>335073110
so its like writing things down?
like not calculating, but explaining the way a problem is solved?
Something like "i would do this, then with this result i would compare it to that" etc?
>>335069392
Lets see those feet.
>>335072991
I actually feel that all the mathematics I took in uni has been very helpful in my professional life. But yeah, that's hardly the case for everyone.
>>335066162
block dude
>>335073207
It's Yin and Yang you fucking cretin
>>335071589
jesus lad please visit a real university
>>335072993
stop fucking using analogies to problems you dont understand.
Calculator cant help you in a real math exam. They just CANT. I seriously dont know why this is so hard to understand.
> L > 0, D ⊆ R and f : D → R, so that
>|f(x) − f(y)| ≤ L |x − y| is true for all x, y ∈ D
>show that f is uniformly continuous
this is an entry level question for entry level math (picked the easiest example, just for you). Please use a calculator to solve this problem, Im sure it'll help you immensly.
>>335073207
Don't quote Bob Ross without citing him you cockmonger.
>>335072910
>smuggled in a 'cheat sheet' during Stats exams >had some minor equations and very concise examples on a small square of paper
>did this because I have obscene memory problems and could never remember how to solve anything
>will have to force myself to memorize and know all of this shit off the top of my head once I start my Master's
I don't even know how I'm going to do it but I'm pretty worried.
>>335073598
My TI83 tell me the answer is 5
>>335073904
Oh no where was the first intended space
oh well
>>335073387
Well kinda. It depends. You still do "math" but with no (complicated) numbers. It's like
>If A is true
>and B is true
>C can be applied
>and this and that
>A is also smaller than D and bigger than E
>which means F...
and so on and so on. You get the point. Remember the time where you thought "Why the fuck are we using characters in math"? The jump you made from "numbers math" to that math, is a similar 'jump' from your math to university math (for mathematicians)
>>335070675
Underrated post
>>335073961
At least you undestand how a calculator is not needed for mathematicians maths problems.
>>335073598
So mathematical analysis?
At least that should be a translation since I'm not american
Not him btw.
>>335073387
refer to the problem in this post
>>335073598
>>335073904
>>will have to force myself to memorize and know all of this shit off the top of my head once I start my Master's
lol you won't need all of it
and if you're capable of cheating without being caught you're even better
>>335074060
cool, seems like having to do only the good part of geometry.
thanks.
>>335069767
Wow, I haven't seen this guy in awhile, what happened, /v/?
Anything you'd use a calculator for in college onwards is generally just fine to leave unsimplified.
>>335074303
Lad if you can solve that, good for you. But thats not the point (thats easy af to solve, so who cares really). The point is just, that calculation isnt done at (real) univesities in exams. At least not by mathematicians, obviously STE (without the M) still do some calculation in exams (but as far as I know still without calculators, as the problems use 'easy' numbers').
>>335074412
Sure but I won't know what I will and won't need.
I could only get away with cheating because I took my exams in a small room alone and could take a small piece of paper out of my pocket and put it in my lap or under my exam papers without someone else immediately noticing.
>>335068909
>but then you use a PC with Matlab
You mean a PC with a fancy calculator installed?
>>335073598
im gonna go back to the beginning of this to when someone, probably you, said that calculators on tests were cheating. which resulted in everyone calling him/you a faggot for trying to act superior for doing things the hard way. which is why ive been referring to doing math by hand, the hard way, and calling it pointless. now, in your infinite autism, you invented a scenario where suddenly people were telling you that calculators were needed for a type of math that doesnt use them
>>335074453
>cool, seems like having to do only the good part of geometry.
math at university level is hard af lad, but as soon as you get the hang of it, it gets sweet af.
also you're literally employed (and soon-to-be rich) as soon as you leave univesity if you specialize on statistics or financial maths
>>335073598
Not that guy, but as a HS senior going to college soon: How fucked am I if I understand that at about 40%? I'm going to do engineering, and seeing this makes me feel fucked
>>335074987
Engineering involves real math so as long as you're decent at dealing with multiple variables you'll be fine.
>went to shitty ghetto high school
>The TIs there were covered in piss yellow and shit so the niggers don't steal them
>They do anyway
>Class gets punished because if she called out the thief, she'd get jumped on because muh racism
high school was great desu
>>335074730
Dude I've """cheated""" in college god knows how many times and they never notice, the fucks are too jaded to actually go though a proper anticheat routine.
You can get pretty creative when cheating.
Not that """cheating""" will be of much help when you actually have to memorize the actual procedures, but they saved me a bunch of time from memorizing a lot of stuff.
>>335074869
That wasnt me. I didnt read all that, sorry. Well obviously if using a calculator is of help in an exam, it should be allowed. But honestly I cant think of any exam in my university where a calculator would be of help. Even engineers (who calculate in exams) dont need to use them as the problems use easy numbers (obv. doesnt mean that the problems are easy).
Also
>invented
lad I hope you know that mathematicians are real people. I didnt invent anything, I just copypasted from one of my (old af) exams.
But yeah: If a calculator can be of help in an exam, it should be allowed. But if you are at a university where using a calculator is of help in too many exams, you should probably think of changing universities.
>>335074869
>someone, probably you, said that calculators on tests were cheating.
No. Nobody said that. Come on, kid. That isn't at all what this is about.
>>335074987
nah chill the fuck out, literally thousand upon thousand literal retards get through university easily.
dont worry too much, lad. Honestly you will do just fine. Just dont snitch on people, that shit will come back.
>>335074987
I mean no one learns proper proof based analysis in high school at all, so you should be fine. Don't worry about it.
It's all just notation anyway, you'll get it completely once you learn the notation.
>>335075497
>Even engineers (who calculate in exams) dont need to use them as the problems use easy numbers (obv. doesnt mean that the problems are easy).
Engineers will take a lot of pure mathematics courses at most universities, and it's very likely that they won't be using calculators there.
Calculations are just the "dirty work", after all the math is done, after all. Or it's measurement, and so on. But it's dirty anyway, and doesn't actually have anything to do with the math per se.
>>335075497
nigga i didnt say you came up with that word vomit, which im not even gonna pretend to understand. i meant situation, you know, SCENARIO, where i kicked down your door, fucked your dog, and told you to your face that calculators are useful for whatever bullshit you do
>>335075535
yeah okay >>335067029
>>335073207
You're a faggot.
>>335074987
The hardest part of college was taking the entrance exam.
No, I'm not kidding.
>>335075767
>Engineers will take a lot of pure mathematics courses at most universities
Never heard of that, lad. All courses for engineers at all universites I know of are titled
>[something math] for engineers
Which is fine, as they dont need the math we do.
source: first degree was in engineering
>>335075894
Oh, I see. I thought you meant this post.
>>335068001
>I've never once, in six math courses at university, used a calculator.
Which is the post that seemed to have sparked this whole thing that's got you so upset.
>>335073579
>>335073207
both are technically correct
>>335068513
phones aren't allowed in class?
>>335076168
Usually not during tests because you can access the internet with them
>>335074483
He got replaced.
By a figure with one hand on his chin contemplating that he'd like to fornicate with the corresponding subject
>>335076057
thats not what upset me. what upset me was them putting some old black bitch on the 20 dollar bill and doing some bullshit about putting feminist propaganda on the backside of other bills
> it's vee talking about math edition
>>335075894
I also didnt invent the scenario you imbecile.
This guy >>335071373 clearly states "study math at university". And I replied to the reply to that post.
Which means that I didnt INVENT the fucking the scenario, if was fucking given you fucking knobhead.
Seeing as you are literally retarted, let me help you
>Guy A: You dont need calculators for real math at university
>Guy B: Bullshit
>Me: You really dont need calculators for real math blabla
>You: WOW!!! now you're shifting the goalposts to a different kind of math WOW!!!!!
>>335072269
what ? didnt you have old exams or something like that ? did you literally not know how that exam would be structured?
>>335075146
>>335075692
>>335075756
>>335075991
That's a breath of fresh air
If you're an engineer taking physics for engineering, and the prof wants to ask you some shit like "if your spring constant is 5, and your second spring constant is 8, and the two springs are connected and only one of them is fully dampened, what's the force exerted on a ball that rolled down an incline 2 meters high into the spring (or some shit, I don't remember this was a while ago) then you'd have to write your work down to show you know how to figure it out, but you're allowed to use a calculator because why waste time actually multiplying and dividing out the numbers you plugged into the equations?
Calculators are for plug-and-chug stuff.
And as for that other equation earlier in the thread (the "let's see you use a calculator on this!" one) you could use a calculator to test the equation under each of the conditions the question is asking about, and then use that information to confirm or deny the claim. Or you could write it out, but writing shit out sucks
>>335076785
I dont know how american colleges work (nor do I really care), but find people you can study for exams with. That shit should be universally true. Lone ranger have it really hard.
But then again, I can't say if you're forced into groups, or even encouraged at your colleges, all I can say is that 99.99% of all students want to study in a group, they're just too asperger to say "wassup lad, wanna study together?".
>>335075894
>word vomit
It's actually designed to be as simple and unambiguous as possible. And it is. I mean of course you don't understand it. It's a language unto itself, like math, and you haven't been educated in it.
>whatever bullshit you do
It's called math.
>>335077153
>needing other people to study
lol
>>335077153
>group study
The most effective way to study is in pairs, I've read. If you have a study buddy that takes it seriously, it's a godsend.
>finished two years at my county college
>tfw going to finish my last two years in a uni in california
Will I be fucked /v/? I'm no good with math and I want to get into computer science.
>>335077117
>And as for that other equation earlier in the thread (the "let's see you use a calculator on this!" one) you could use a calculator to test the equation under each of the conditions the question is asking about, and then use that information to confirm or deny the claim. Or you could write it out, but writing shit out sucks
Lad, dont get me wrong, but "my calculator said so" isnt really confirming/denying something. Yes, I know that you can use WolframAlpha to solve easy shit like that, but what's the point of studying than ? Why not just go on Wikipedia ?
Thing is, an exam in math shouldnt be testing your calculating skill, so in real universities they either allow you one when needed to calculate (like in your problem) or deny you one when not even needed. That was my whole point.
>>335077650
>I'm no good with math and I want to get into computer science.
You're gonna be this guy: >>335072680
>>335077650
>I'm no good with math and I want to get into computer science.
You're fucked.
>>335077423
>needing
I dont need them, I just like to have them, as they're a convenience.
>>335077460
I actually meant that. I meant group as in "group of people who kinda study the same shit you do, which you all have on whatsapp and can contact any time to study together".
I had the luck to go through university with my best friend. We are literally on the same wavelength, and I have never in my life studied better and more effectively than with him on university.
>>335077767
>>335077824
you don't need to be exceptional in math to do computer science
get fucked
>>335066162
Funnily enough a kid in my review class was showing me Pokemon Red on his Ti 84
>>335078084
>you don't need to be exceptional in math to do computer science
The same kind of thinking is certainly needed.
>>335073904
Is my Applied statistics class were allowed to use a cheat sheet on the mid/final exam. (I can use 2 on the final because it's cumulative.)
>>335078172
it isn't considering my friend managed to ace it
>>335078084
You do need to be good.
>>335077650
Its not magic. You have to study harder and more and someday you will just "get" it. Also, it's not like they start with analysis for advanced post doctorate mathmaticians in CS. Not saying its easy in the beginning, but it is doable.
>>335067234
you're free to buy the casio or hp branded graphing calcs for a third of the price
nogaems tho
>>335070370
What? I got that one for like $125. It was only $10 more than the Ti-84 and about 3 times better.
>>335078209
To be honest, the only exams I respect are the ones where I can use cheat sheet.
Its as if the prof is saying
>You gon get fucked so hard, not even a cheat sheet will help you.
>>335077767
>>335077824
>>335078172
>>335078240
>discrete math is the same math taught at schools
Typical /v/ showing its ignorance yet again.
>>335069392
post her pics
>>335074483
he stopped thinking
