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I can just see why people don't want colors like this in doom but do millennials like color palettes like this?
I mean, nothing's WRONG with a color palette like this, but COD, destiny etc. and other shooters seem to be adding more skittles like pallets, and bold graphic shapes.
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this is not doom, this is halo
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looks bad Todd
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Yea I fucking hate colors
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>>335041228
You might be successfully trolling, cause I honestly can't tell anymore.
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>>335041042
reminder that the term "millennial" includes everyone born in the mid-eighties onward and you should stop using it as if you are not included
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>>335041042
>but do millennials like color palettes like this?

Unless you're over the age of 35, ask yourself that question.
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>>335041385
it look nothing like doom and it's made by guys who made halo
you're the real troll here son
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>>335041519
When does millennial stop? It's been the millennial generation for like 40 years.
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>>335041042

What happened to doom
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>FULL customization
>"Wow worst thing ever because you can make something ugly if you want to"
>"Wow there are too many color options even though lack of color was something I was complaining about a week ago"
>"Wow taunts are horrible! Best game UT4 would never have those!"

There's a billion things wrong with the Doom multiplayer and this is what you choose to focus on?
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The devs for these games can't seem to make armor that's really different from each other. With this in mind, a drab colour pallette makes everyone look the same. It's just easier to differentiate yourself with a colour.

I wish more devs could be as creative as pic related with their armour.
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>>335041905
>What I expected
>Something that you could've figured out it wasn't going to be from the second they announced multiplayer

Found your problem.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xIHrQRzsG0

one of these games is free. the other one is 60 bucks
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>>335041042
I bought wolfenstein for the single player. Will do the same for this. Unless it turns out shitty. But I have no idea currently because they decided to release a gay ass multiplayer beta instead of a single player demo.
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>>335042121
Nice.
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>>335041743
Seems to be somewhere around 2002-2004.
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>>335042121
Are they ever going to bring back the ripper?
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>>335041352
on one side I could argue that it's good that they are somehow trying to break the piss filter, but on the other hand it looks like they just finished a round of Splatoon.
I don't understand this trend in multiplayer games where you choose most awful camos/textures for yourself so that you look like rainbow fairy got very drunk and puked all over you.
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noone needs the ripper
aswell as spider mines
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>doom wound up having all the customization Halo 5 should have
makes me feel bad desu senpai, it was all wasted on the wrong series
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>>335043151
>>335041743
If you weren't born before 1990 you're a millennial.
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Fucking halo piece of shit trash no skill based movements fucking DIAF, Carmack is a shill who blew up his IP like his failure rockets.
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>>335041680
>Bethesda
>id
>Made Halo
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>>335041042
>Millennials

You're a millennial faggot
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No one responded in the other thread so I'll copypaste it here.

I understand CA co-developed the multiplayer with id, but wouldn't id give them some sort of guideline, a business requirement, a fucking blue print as to what the multiplayer should capture as a whole? I don't think everyone should just nail CA in the head for doing what they do best and clearly shows with their continuous development for Halo/CoD. All the blame should be towards whoever is in charge of DOOM's multiplayer as he should be the one with the ultimate vision and who they should be catering to.

I hope I'm making sense, but my point is id picked up CA for the pure purpose that they specialized in Halo/COD in an attempt to capture that same audience; which they failed too.
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>>335043874
Sorry, if you weren't born before 1980 you're a milennial
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>>335043671
you can. Use SDK to make it. Your mutator will probably become popular and Epic will include it in UT.
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>>335044213

Last time I went to school, I was classified as Generation X.
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>>335044213
Sorry, if you weren't born before 1975 you're a millennial
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>>335041042
Now their Doomguy can match their neon colored hair color, bro.
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>>335041042
>but do millennials like
STFU
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>>335044032
Multiplayer is outsourced to the niggers that make halo.
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>>335044192
people should also keep in mind that you can't make something good even if one had the ability to if you only have shit ingredients
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>>335044992
certain affinity didn't make Halo, they made maps for Halo
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>>335044192
>catering
>>335045006
>ingredients

>food analogies
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>>335045158
d44m is a bad, unoriginal console fps, it's not shocking that the multiplayer would also be shit
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>>335045158

Yeah, I don't know why he picked the term ingredients; components or assets would have been better. Although, I hear cater used commonly in marketing/business practices.

>we are catering to the younger audience
>we are catering to be flexible and diverse

My english is shit tier, should I be using another term besides catering?
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>>335041042
Imagine being a demon and seeing these power ranger faggots run at you
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>>335041905
To be fair, mp was outsourced. Sp will play differently
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>>335045790
Certain Affinity right? Pretty sure they made the MP for all the new halos
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>>335045790
probably worse too, if the e3 footage and the complete lack of thereafter is anything to go by.
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>>335045297
It's also not shocking that a company that produces unoriginal console shooter multiplayer modes would produce yet another unoriginal console shooter multiplayer mode. You can speculate as to why that is all you want, but it isn't rocket science.
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>>335046151
They started strong with Halo 2 DLC and making the World at War multiplayer, how the fuck they went from that to making Halo 4 and CoD: Ghosts and now D44m is beyond me
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Quake was always like this you absolute retards.
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>>335046445
tim willits please go away no one likes you
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>>335041042
You're supposed to coordinate your palettes with your friends. Those that are taking aggro use a colorful outfit.
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>>335047906
>Alright anon you get to wear the dick hat so the enemy team shoots at you first
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I don't like how all shooters these days come off as "sporty".
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>>335045790
riiiiight

just like how fallout 4 was going to be good
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Doom beta was really good, it had amazing moments such as shooting the guy with the SSG and also shooting the other guy with the SSG
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>>335051018
i saw people use the sniper rifle as well, but that was it, Sniper/SSG

I don't blame anyone for not using the rocket launcher though, shit hits like a wiffle bat
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>>335051178
OP weapon combos:
Sniper/SSG
Rocket Launcher/SSG
Lightning Gun/SSG
SSG/SSG
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>>335051508
LG was my fucking jam
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>>335051508
RL/SSG reporting

Leading with direct impact into shotgun makes me hard.
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>>335051802
it really depends on who you're up against
RL works against idiots, but against people who stop standing still for a second to dodge, it's pretty bad

personally I think RL, Plasma, Lightning Gun and Static Cannon should be buffed up to the level of the Super Shotgun.

and sniper should be nerfed to have longer charge time in exchange for that 1hKO.
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>>335041554

This. We're all in the same boat here, fuckos.
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>>335041554
Using the word "millennial" to describe people born before the year 2000 is fucking stupid.

The millennium is of no relevance to them unless you're going to say that everyone alive to see the year 2000 come in was a millennial, which means you may as well include 50-90 year olds too.

Only retards use it to describe people born any time before the year 2000.
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>>335053010
You're free to think whatever, but this shit is established. Might as well bitch why Friday is called Friday, matters just as much.
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>>335041042
This shit has been around since Serious Sam MP, possibly earlier. There's nothing inherently wrong with it but in the case of Serious Sam it fits in with the wacky nature of the game, DOOM.. not so much.

Also fuck the fucker who put in the Carlton dance in the game. Fuck everyone involved in the MP in general, but extra fuck you to the guy responsible for that.
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>>335053010
Generational names are used to refer to when people were in their childhood and adolescence, so millennials (people defined by having a chunk of their youth in the first years of the new millennium) run from the late 80s to the early 00s at the latest
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>>335041042
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>>335048117
Now I want an MP game where the team leader can assign a dick hat to a party member
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>>335041042

>Thought someone had taken the time to shop a bunch of fucking awful paint schemes

>Have a bit of a chuckle

>Google it to check out how they compare to the real deal

>They were the real ones

Well today is off to a bad start.
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>>335041042
I really couldn't give two shits about the option to paint your marine in pretty colors, do silly dances and so on. All I required was fast, crisp movement and well balanced, beefy sounding weapons, and that is what they fucked up.
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>>335053414
Friday I can accept because it's an interesting name for the weekday, but "millennial" used as a descriptive term for a group of people who have nothing more in particular to do with the millennium than anything else is just retarded.

yeah i realise there's not much that can be done but at least i can impotently bitch at people in this thread about it

fuck
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>years ago
>people bitch about "LE BROWN AND BLOOM NO COLOURRRRRRR"

>now
>people bitch about "LE SPESHUL SNOWFLAEK COLOURRRSSSSSSS"
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It's a sad day when you realize that a CoD game will have better modding support than the latest id game...

The COD games (at least the old ones) used a heavily modified version of the ID Tech engines.

The irony is real
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>>335054460
Where do you think we are?
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>>335042121
Cliffy B's new game looks neat
https://youtu.be/-uX9iY-KJQw
even if the audio is absolute garbage
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>>335054120
i want to fuck hunter
>>335054172
Just wait till you see what they've done with the rest of the game, especially the gameplay.

there are only five things in this game that tell me I'm playing Doom and not some other game: Shotty, Plasma, the Revenant, the main menu logo, and certain parts of the hell multiplayer map.

Everything else is generic "near future" as fuck.
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>>335041042
Thanks doc.
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>>335054120
No Clash, no buy.
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>>335054460
Every game being brown, bloom, and poopy-looking was a bad thing because so many games were doing it.

On the other hand, obnoxiously bright colour combinations are bad because they don't fit the tone of this game. Id/Bethesda told us we were going back to the roots of Doom, and the roots of Doom didn't involve Splatoon-tier neon. That's why people are complaining. You clearly know this, but you're being disingenuous.
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>>335054601
Does CoD have an SDK?
Because people are already gutting D44M in the same fashion as any other SDK-less title that is unintentionally moddable purely through not taking any effort to prevent it.
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>>335055117
So here's a thing. The loading screens say that there's supposed to be an armor effect on players that have 100 health and some armor.

Where is that effect? I didn't see shit.

In the alpha there was a little neon green effect on players that had armor, referencing the original Doomguy's armor I assume. It was impossible to see in most circumstances but it was there.
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>>335054889

Watching shit for the first time now (slowpoke etc etc).....and this is awful....the fuck is with the decade old looking shitty QTE executions.....they're so clunky.

Fuck, how are the recent Wolfensteins, I heard they were somewhat decent?
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>>335044486
Sorry, if you weren't born before 1950 you're a millennial
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>>335055083
Do you mean Crash?

I remember an E3 thread last year when everyone was saying it'd be pretty cool if Crash was an option for the protagonist and I still stand by that. A female player model and an extra VA to provide the HUH HNNGH AAAAGH noises would take almost no effort at all.
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>>335055419
TNO was pretty good. Quirky but good. It was made by the Riddick devs.

You get to kill Nazis on the moon.
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>>335055117
>Being able to customize your character's color scheme leads to people using neon marines

NEVER HAPPENED IN DOOM BEFOUR
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>>335055419
Wolfenstein The New Order I found to be pretty entertaining, the dev team definitely put a fuckload of effort into it, and it stayed fairly close to the roots of the series. I've seen quite a few people on /v/ other than me liking it, so take that as you will. Of course as with any other game reccommendation you're not guaranteed to like it, so maybe watch a gameplay video of it first.

Unfortunately, it didn't have multiplayer. The devs decided to bypass it to make the singleplayer experience as good as possible.
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>>335055603
The MP marines don't make any noises at all. No grunts, no nothing. I imagine SP is much the same.
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>>335055117
>and the roots of Doom didn't involve Splatoon-tier neon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSSKLeVtkbA
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>>335055660
I said "combinations", didn't I? You have a point, but at least you could only be pink muhreen, not purple/pink/yellow muhreen.

One is stretching it, the other one is disgusting.
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>>335055660
Source port.
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>>335055619

>Riddick Devs

>Nazis on the Moon

Sold.

Fuck I think Chronicles of Riddick may have been the last time I was genuinely blown away by an FPS.
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>>335055660

You and I both know that this is different fuck face
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>>335055917
That's a mod isn't it? I don't remember doomguy wearing sunnies.
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>>335055920
You could customize multiple bits of each skin before Carnevil got assassinated and Skulltag got turned into Zandronum.

>>335055976
Something the Doom community has been ok with for 2 decades.
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>>335055917
I can see how everyone's so disappointed, look how skillful and fun that multiplayer gameplay is.
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>>335042764
>purely cosmetic
>while DOOM already has a season pass announced
Kill yourself.
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>>335041042
Reminder that when /v/ bitches about Millennials, they're talking about those who came AFTER Millennials because most people are 4chan don't know facts

>Generation X
>Born: 1965-1979
>Coming of Age: 1983-1997


>Generation Y aka Echo Boomers or Millennials
>Born: 1980-1994
>Coming of Age: 1998-2012


>Generation Z aka iGen or Post-Millennials
>Born: 1995-2012
>Coming of Age: 2013-2020
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make the ringing in my ears stop /v/

HELP
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>>335041042
There is nothing wrong with colors, these are just butt ugly patterns and look literally nothing like Doom. At least in the singleplayer you can tell the helmet is inspired by Doom, these are literally 100% baseless and original designs that bear no resemblance whatsoever to what it's supposed to be and the ridiculous patterns only further that.
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>>335056256
>I have to like Doom to oppose shit business practices.
Nice.
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>>335056247
>I can see how everyone's so disappointed
Stop talking for others.
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>>335055762

>Unfortunately, it didn't have multiplayer. The devs decided to bypass it to make the singleplayer experience as good as possible.

I am so very ok with that.
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>>335056098
Not the original Doom executable, anon. Player made content is no longer a factor because Bethesda won't let you have mod tools anymore.

Because if we let you have mod tools you won't buy our $45 DLC package.

>DLC weapons
>DLC perks
>DLC demons
>Fucking DLC weapons
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>>335041042
Everyone looks like the got a bucket of house paint thrown on them
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>>335041042
Why must they insist on putting decorative shit in ever single shooter game now? Why can't people be satisfied with just playing a shooter for the sake of it's gameplay anymore?
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>>335056417
Ok
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>>335056332
Humor me. How is a free game having cosmetics a shit business practice? Everything in the game is free except something you put on your head.
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>>335055763
Which was distressing. I don't get why there aren't any exertion or pain noises, the latter are a really useful audio feedback on whether you're taking damage and whether you're hitting your target.
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>>335056560
Everything in the game is free except for the DLC weapons/perks/demons.
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>>335056560
Because there's framework for selling maps in there that you've apparently forgotten about.
Nice.
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>>335056247
That's the equivalent of looking at a TF2 32-player Skial pub match on 24/7 Dustbowl and saying it's not skillful or fun.

Those guys are shitters playing on a small cramped map where apparently one guy gets to spam BFG endlessly. The MP has more to offer when you have good players and a good map.
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>>335056758
Where did I say that it wasn't skillful or fun you dildo?
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>>335056484
I honestly don't mind that, what bugs me is the relatively slow movement, shitty weapon balancing and poor feedback mechanisms.

Selling weapons though? That's atrocious, and selling maps is both bad for the user and fucking stupid from a business perspective since it will fragment the playerbase.
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>>335056869
I automatically assume everyone on /v/ is sarcastic whenever praising something, because this place has many horrible people who like to shit on anything others enjoy. My apologies, have some tiddies.
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>>335056718
Which is completely different from cosmetics.
>>335056739
I'll wait until they're actually selling maps. The framework is in but nothing has been announced.
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>>335057049
>Surely EPIC GAMES won't use this feature for selling content that they implemented into their engine and storefront!

Doom 2016 drone tier honestly.
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Hey, I've got a secret for you.

You can create something that resembles the original Doom armor, minus the exposed flesh
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>>335057049
It was announced a week ago.

https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/doom-open-beta-and-post-launch-content/2016/04/06/101

$45, or $40 if you buy it all at once.

>9 maps
>3 guns
>3 perks
>3 demons
>3 pieces of equipment (like the grenades and teleporter)

It's really bad, anon. Circus bad.
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>>335057035
>>335056869
Also here's a more coherent match I was going to post anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_dvVydmaSI

If only Doom 4 MP could be like this, plus its improved graphics, double jumping and mantling to add a vertical dimension, it would be amazing.
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>>335057146
Nice reading comprehension. I'll agree that your strawman skills are doom 2016 drone tier. At least you have self-awareness.
>>335057268
I was talking about UT maps being sold. All we know is that there's a system for it. Still in the dark about the details.
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>>335057249
Were you going to post this? Because it doesn't really cut the mustard.
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>>335057474
That's a poor attempt. Whoever created that went too light on the wear and tear and din't use a matte green. He could also have applied the splotch pattern in red to simulate blood splatters.
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>>335057763
So yours did that? How did you get the silver helmet, then?
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>>335057763
The helmet is also completely wrong.

And the armor.
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>>335057419
The ability to *put maps up to be approved for sale* is already in there but I guess we should ignore that, we're still in the dark about the details!
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>>335041042
I think the biggest problem with this game is that I've never played a Doom game and thought it was somewhat enjoyable. They clearly didn't focus on the older fans and instead tried to focus on people like me that aren't even gonna buy it. I enjoyed the beta but never even for a second did I think to myself "yeah I'm getting this."

Now not only do old fans of the series not want it. It's having a hard time making new fans. Nobody seems to want this game. If anything it's just made me want to play the older ones instead so I can put into perspective why this one isn't good.

Colours are fine OP and they aren't even seen in team game modes. That's a weird thing to complain about.
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>>335057474
He's just too...lean.

Dguy is packed with muscle & anger.
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"Who's a man and a half? I'm a man and a half! A berserker packin' man and a half!"
"I'm a 12.0 on the 10.0 scale of badness!"
"Here comes the Night Train!"
"Now I'm radioactive! That can't be good!"
"Sweet Christmas! Big-mouthed floating thingies!"
"Rip and tear rip and... TEAR RIP AND TEAR... RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS! YOU ARE HUGE! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE GUTS! RIP AND TEAR!"

RIP Doomguy.
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>>335058160
Yeah, the biggest issue seems to be a lack of faith in the original gameplay meaning it winds up as something lukewarm that isn't great for anyone.
I do recommend trying classic Doom to see what it's all about though; there's usually a thread on /vr/ with stuff in the OP that'll let you find the core game files and a good modern source port with mouselook because the classic controls are awkward to get used to coming from modern games.

>>335057035
I have no idea what that image has to do with sincerity on 4chan
Sauce?
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>>335058069
Are you intentionally trying to show the world that you can't comprehend basic sentences?
What price will the maps be?
Will they be sold individually or as a bundle? What about sales?
Is it maps from them or user created maps (as I've heard the game is F2P with a mod market)?
Are they going to be selling maps from Day 1?
Will maps ever become free after enough time has passed or enough new maps have been added?

That's what people mean when they talk about the details.
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>>335058824
>Selling maps and mods as separate products for a multiplayer game at all
>a defensible business practice

Are you intentionally trying to show the world that you're a Doom 2016 drone: different game edition?
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>ywn look like this
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>>335042121
on pc it playes far better and faster. damn ass idiot

p.s. dont defend it but pick your videos right
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>>335054835
nigger announcer.
fuck off.
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>>335041228
You have to be 18 to post on this forum
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>>335059115
>Doom 2016 drone: different game edition
Except DOOM has to be bought and already has a season pass announced.

I'm still waiting for the details on the map sales before I bash it. How many games these days come with free (substantial) DLC? Sure, it'd be nice to get everything for free, but on the flip side, giving away everything is a shit business practice as they'll make no money and just waste time and resources.
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>>335059137
No armed forces would ever issue such "armor"
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>>335059775
The abdominals part is just his t-shirt ripped open from demons, if you notice his leg is also ripped open.

How I interpret it based on the cover is: He's wearing a green t-shirt (ripped open at the bottom) with some kind of bulletproof vest worn over it, and a space helmet so he can breathe.
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How much do you guys wanna bet that the classic DOOM armor is gonna be pre-order DLC or part of a "throwback" DLC
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>>335041228
He's right though, those look like Spartans from Halo.
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>>335060605
i heard someone on /v/ say the classic armour will be some kind of plot point, but still the chances of them doing that are extremely likely

I would like it if Doomguy armour could only be unlocked by finishing the campaign on nightmare, but I doubt they would do something cool for once
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>>335041042
>>335041554
No, millennials like sepia tones.

Actual color variance is something aimed at older audiences who grew up with 16-bit games and pre-CoD, pre-Uncharted games untainted by their "realistic" art design.
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>>335059775
E
D
F
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>>335041743
If you were born before 80-95 you are a millienal. Gen Z include people born 96-2010

Source:google and every other site
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>>335062050
*in between 80-95 you are a millienal
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>>335061615
>im-fucking-plying

I was born in 88, and I grew up with the Amiga, master system, Mega Drive, super Nintendo and the N64. Fuck your generalisation.
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>>335056261
Pretty much this, you are an idiot if you think other wise
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