What's your favorite spectacle fighter /v/?
God Hand, easily.
>>335033502
Bayonetta 2 is the one i enjoyed the most.
DMC3SE/4SE, Ninja gaiden 1/2 and GodHand share the 2nd place.
followed by MGR as a third.
>>335033681
I still need to go back and beat it on hard mode
I'm honestly kind if behind on Platinum games. I've played most of Revengence, DMC 3 a long time ago, and I started MadWorld last night. I almost picks up Anarchy Reigns too but I passed it up.
>>335033856
I'm working om it right now, I fucking suck at God Hand though, only able to maintain a 3.0 average through the whole game,so it's kicking my ass.
>>335034279
>3.0 average
>Bad
>>335034368
I was under the impression that if you can't hold a 4.0 average, you aren't "good"
>>335034530
You're doing fine, kid. Never doubt yourself
>>335033502
>spectacle fighter
huh?
God had is the best one i played but my favorite one is Prince of persia WW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHgGfsZN-5I
just because you cant bring niggers to the sky doesnt mean you cant be stylish
>>335033502
DMC3SE always and forever.
>>335033502
Metal Gear Rising
Please stop making up new names for this genre.
Also I would have to say DMC3 and MGR.
Recently started up killer is dead and I'm having a blast with it
>spectacle fighter
How retarded can you people be?
>>335040068
>>335035889
TotalCancer calls it that so people picked it up.
Just call them character action games like you used to.
Ninja Gaiden
>>335040437
I didn't call them that either. They're just fucking ACTION games
>>335040437
>TotalCancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ResWBN47PGk
Yatzhee came up with the name.
>>335040437
they should just be called 3d brawlers
>>335040437
>character action games
tomb raider is a character action game
ass creed is a character action game
the last of us a character action game
all three games are completly diferent
>>335033502
DMC>God Hand>>the rest
>>335040068
>>335040437
I thought they were called hack n' slash. Or is that what they call dynasty warriors clones?
>>335041357
Diablo is a hack and slash game
>>335041357
hack n slash only uses swords and sharp things
>>335041123
brawkers only use hands
>>335041418
But I thought it was a dungeon crawler
Everything I've been taught are lies
>>335033502
once you get the rhythm of instant up dash cancelling moves, god hand is easily the most satisfying to play
but imo dmc3 or dmc4 wins by a slight margine when it comes to style
>>335040437
What's a non character action game? That term is made up and new too.
>>335042360
Split/second?
The DMC series.
I started with DMC and I always end up going back to it.
3 and 4 are great; and 1 is still pretty good.
I still need to play God Hand though; but I need to get a physical copy for it.
>>335040437
>>335037829
>>335041357
Capcom officially calls them as Stylish Action Games.
I think that name nails perfectly what these games represent.
Why not just call them advanced stylish games?
All these retarded "cuhrayzee" or "character-action games" just sound cringeworthy
None of the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7oaCq8TFa0
>>335042828
"advanced stylish games" doesn't sound any better
>>335042686
Ill take Capcom's official name over whatever some faggot youtuber calls it
>>335033502
DMC4SE
>>335033502
>>335033502
Devil May Cry
Its the series that got me into this type of game
DMC3>Bayonetta 1>DMC 4>MGSR>Bayonetta 2
>>335033502
>spectacle fighter
>>335040437
>character action games
Kill yourself, both of you.
>>335042686
That one is actually ok.
>>335043638
I always just called them hack n slash games. I've heard of the stylish action games thing but think it only really fits dmc well and bayonetta slightly. Seems weird to think about a Ninja Gaiden games being call that.
DMC4 is nice
Mad World is fun but the story boring
MGR is perfect, also both bayos
>>335042686
>Stylish Action Games.
That is actualy realy good
>>335033502
>spectacle fighter
fuck off with this bullshit term its not a real genre
>>335033502
W101 without question
God Hand, although it's very different from games like Bayo and DMC. Feels like an old school beat em up in 3D rather than a "cuhrayzee" game.
>>335043859
>I always just called them hack n slash games.
That's something totally different.
Madworld
most underrated game
>>335044130
no its not every used it for all these games before diablo fags threw a bitchfit over it
>>335044207
mah nigga
>>335033502
Is there a character more likable than Dante?
>>335044631
yes, shadow the hedgehog is more popular in the same category
>>335036093
I loved WW's fighting and world. They messed them both up in TT though.
Underrated combat system.
>>335044698
Are you implying that Dante is an edgelord? I'd like to see you meme yourself out of this one.
>>335044809
but he is an overpowered half demon that tries too hard to act cool
>>335043189
I WANNA EAT HIS CHILDREN PRAISE BE TO ALLAHYOU'RE NOT ALEXANDER
>>335045116
Shadow doesn't want to be cool though.
That would be Sonic.
>>335045116
And he fails at it each time, but he doesn't take himself seriously. He's a goofball.
>>335044698
>Dante
>edgy
>>335035763
Not him, but I'm good enough to keep it constantly on level DIE, but bad enough that I usually get my ass kicked by level DIE.
>>335045116
dante is never really serious about anything
>>335033502
Bayonetta took the crown.
>>335045296
he's the definition of edgy
Does W101 count? Because if so either that or Godhand for me
>>335033502
Bayonetta (played the xbox version). Wish there was a PC version though.
>>335045329
pretending you don't give a shit about anything is part of the edge, like walking away from an explosion without looking
>>335044207
WE BOUNCE ROCK ROLL GROOVE
>>335045793
nigga you stupid
>>335045306
Yeah lvl die is a pretty huge step up in difficulty. The amounts of stagger resistence enemies have is crazy.
![god-hand-20060915032332762-000[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LmjIuIP.jpg "god-hand-20060915032332762-000[1].jpg")
I'M BRUTAL AND RUTHLESS
>>335045519
Maybe if you're 13 and don't know what the word means
>>335045116
>that tries too hard to act cool
But Godhand is an old style beat em up in 3D, not a spectacle fighter.
>>335033502
The original DMC. Everyone loves 3 and 4 but I always preferred the original. It's got the attitude, the ambiance, and the right character. I see it and the other games like I see RE4 vs RE5 and 6. Yeah, RE5 sold better but it lost that something that made it special, it just couldn't replicate the same experience nor make it better, even with improved gameplay, and RE6 might give you all these moves and characters but in truth it's just not what I signed on for with RE, it's unrecognizable in your hands, it might look the part but you play it you know it's not.
>ctrl-f
>no, no more heroes
the fuck is a spectacle fighter?
I'm Alexander the Great!
>>335047246
This. It would be literally perfect if it had a grapple character.
"Stylish action games", "advanced stylish games" and "cuhrayzee" all sound cringeworthy as fuck.
"Character action games" is perhaps the least cringy of them all.
>>335033502
God Hand > Bayonetta > DMC >>>>> MGR >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mad World
Well, truth be told God Hand is the pinnacle of spectacle fighters, Bayonetta is up there, too.
Bayonetta is, in terms of combat, better than any DMC game yet people prefer DMC because IT does a lot of other things better. DMC3 had a better narrative, it balanced out it's enemies, the stages, and it's batshit nuttiness better than B so the overall experience is better.
Honestly, though, even if these are the cream of the crop of specticle/stylysh/climax//hack & slash/brawler action titles, there are others that people still like, even if they suck by contrast. Like the Onnachibara (?) games, Killer is Dead, Lollipop Chainsaw, and a few others. They might not stack up in the combat department but there is something that appeals to people and they like them. It's not my favorite but Lollipop Chainsaw was fucking fun. KiD was great but I still enjoyed it.
I thought we agreed that if not Cuhrayzee, the other official name was
>Punchy-kicky-slashy-boom
>>335047051
fuck
>>335048792
Character action is fucking retarded, it says nothing about the genre itself. What are they, action games where you play as a character? That's very descriptive
>>335048813
>Bayonetta
>better combat than DMC
>>335048813
>Bayonetta is, in terms of combat, better than any DMC game
wew
>>335042686
>Stylish Action Games
Wow, like I've been doing since I was 13.
It's almost like they are Action Games that are Stylish both in visuals and happen to require stylish execution on the part of the player.
Based Capcom calling it like it be, fuck e-celebs trying to be relevant with cringe-worthy, autism tier meme "critique" names.
>>335047892
Never played it, senpai.
But I might pick it up since I always hear nothing but praise for it.
Does it have good replay value?
>>335049230
>>335049327
Well, it is, on a technical aspect.
There is nothing in DMC that you can't do in Bayonetta yet the opposite isn't true. She has a bigger arcenal and most everything you can do in the ground you can do in the air.
If it comes between DMC4 and Bayonetta I'll go with Bayonetta but if it's between DMC3 and Bayonetta I'll go with DMC3. Execution of that combat, balance, characters, and even the restrictions by contrast, makes the game the better experience, which goes to show that just because you have more it doesn't mean that it's better. If it were RE6 would be the masterpiece, not 4.
>>335049609
>There is nothing in DMC that you can't do in Bayonetta yet the opposite isn't true
The only unique thing Bayonetta has is dodge offset which pales in comparison to the tech 3 and 4 have, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>335048792
>Character action games
>action game with characters
So like any other action game ever?
>dad walks in
Notice how all of the best games of this genre were all platinum/clover studios? They might be one of the best devs ever
>>335041123
I imagine that's more for bamham
Instead of talking about the obvious masterpieces, what are some other goods whatever-we-call-this-genre?
>>335047051
Thanks for ruining my day.
>>335049609
>just because you have more it doesn't mean that it's better
If only more of these games realized this. There are faggots who criticize God Hand for only having a few simple combos. As if having poorly balanced unnecessary moves makes for a great game because you can make epic combo videos
>>335049609
>one or two advanced techniques
>more complex than DMC
Don't tell me you just looked at the combo lists in both games and decided that Bayonetta has a deeper combat system
>>335049823
Okami is still the second best game i ever played.
i cant belive it sold like shit.
in fact i cant belive platinum games sell like shit while cod and other shit like that break millions
>>335033502
Godhand is the best beat em up
>>335050365
It's pretty shit actually
>>335049129
>>335049771
Cringy, but still, less than "advanced", "stylish" or "cuhrayzee".
I don't understand why people don't call them 3D beat 'em up or 3D brawler and add "technical" as a prefix for dexterity-heavy games.
>>335050174
Holy crap I'm shit at that game.
And yes Platinum have had trouble with all their new IP's, the outsourcing to Activision I think has faired better though.
>>335047317
>The original DMC. Everyone loves 3 and 4 but I always preferred the original.
same. maybe it's because it was the first game i played on my brother in law's ps2 before i had one, but it feels like dmc3 didn't have the same spark that made dmc1 great. it feels like they just tried to make the game more crazy and silly. i didn't really care for how many weapons they added and the styles. they didn't feel "smooth".
also, the music. dmc1 had great music, but the singer from dmc3 is kind of corny.
>>335050174
I hate how RNG based this fight is
>>335050518
How so?
>>335050614
>>335047317
Even though it had a primitive combat system compared to today's games, I still think DMC1 had the best enemies in the series, and subsequently the entire genre.
>>335050786
There is only like 7 enemies type and the camera is awfull so it results in shitty controls
>>335033502
NG is so good it made me retroactively hate most other games
>>335049750
>didn't read the statement over been a fanboy.
So what CAN you do in Bayonetta that you can't in DMC? That list is rather small and if you start pulling individual moves as examples I'll remind you that Bayonetta has more combos than any/all DMC games put together, you can't do a flying kick upwards in DMC, air stinger comes from Bayonetta, and there is no sliding kicks in DMC and you have no execution style finishers like her torture attack. I could go on but I know it won't make a difference.
>>335050109
>Don't tell me you just looked at the combo lists in both games and decided that Bayonetta has a deeper combat system
No, I own them both... Platinumed both DMC3 and Bayonetta. I'm not a pro player, though, I can barely jump cancel. The worth of a game, it's quality, isn't just based on the combo list or weapons.
Bayonetta is more agile, she can move around with much more agility, run faster, which means a bigger environment isn't cumbersome, attacks are faster, her enemies are more aggressive, she has all of Dante's moves and can do pretty much the same things as Nero.
I think Bayonetta's issue was never the combat, it was pretty much everything else. She can get pretty obnoxious, even more than Dante. As strong as she is as a woman she is also kinda annoying. The level design, the stages, and other little things just don't stack up.
>>335050614
>>335050794
I liked the ambiance. And Dante. Dante was, and will never be, the same after the original staff left. He was forward going, confident, aggressive, even. 3 and 4's just crossed the line into arrogance.
>>335050786
I love God Hand but I can understand why people hate it. The movement and camera is fucking terrible. You often have to deal with more than one enemy (or boss) at a time. The abysmal movement system makes it very hard to deal with situations like that, not to mention the shitty camera means you often get attacked from blind spots.
>>335051139
>>335051312
git gud
camera control is a skill
>>335051156
I just bought the fixed version of the third game for ps3.
Heard the games for ps3 are easier but the razer edgy fix lots of things.
its it true?
>>335051139
Those enemy types are incredibly well made and shit on most of the enemy design in the entire genre, though. Just different match ups, level design and minor variations make encounters varied and engaging thanks to that. More variety would be nice if the quality was consistent, but it's not necessary for the game to be good. The camera's difficult to control at first but it's fine for two reasons. Firstly it allows for the varied dodges you can do in the game mastering which is rewarding, and secondly it makes crowd control a bigger and more tense part of gameplay.
>>335051312
If you suck and can't get level 3 I think it is (like me) enemies off camera won't hit you.
>>335051252
>air stinger comes from Bayonetta
>Bayonetta is more agile, she can move around with much more agility, run faster
Now I know you're shitposting
>>335051252
Your confusing depth with move bloat
>>335051312
That's why you have to manipulate the enemies and use elements of the levels to help you out. It's not the most easy and convenient thing in the world but it's not meant to be. Hell, it's what makes it so unique compared to other games it's often grouped with.
>>335051406
The "fixed" version of 3 isn't actually any better than the normal version, but they're pretty much the same difficulty.
>>335051406
If you never played an NG game before you should start with Black on Xbox or Sigma 1 or 2 on PS3. Those PS3 version are fine, it sure is easier but in the case of Ninja Gaiden this isn't a bad thing at all.
3 is the dark horse of the franchise. The regular NG3 is a huge piece of shit, Razor Edgy fix it at much as it can and does some pretty great things, but it's still kinda bad.
Mainly because the bosses and mid-bosses are insanely hard and badly designed. I still finished it on the highest difficulty and I like the game anyway though, because the combat against normal enemies is fantastic.
But if you bought it already just try it. You're gonna have an hard time though.
>>335051732
>Now I know you're shitposting
Yeah? So you think it was originally Vergil's move? That it first popped up in DMC4SE in 2015 and not in B1 back in 2007? Yeah, you're right, it the game that YOU want it to be that has all the good things and it's better.
>>335051750
>Your confusing depth with move bloat
Oh? So what makes it deeper, then? And does Bayonetta not have it?
>>335050174
oddly enough I remember reading in game informer or some magazine that okami's sales were so bad that clover's head died or something. Which sounds really ridiculous now so I must have read the headline wrong.
>>335052393
Sudoku?
>>335052393
didnt okami win the guinness world record of the only game of the year game ever that sold less than 500m?
>>335052259
Dante had air stinger since DMC4, you just had to be in DT to do it. not that he needed it anyway after trickster got leveled up.
Nero also had a stinger-like move that could be done on the ground and in the air.
If you actually played these games you would know this.
>>335052567
"least commercially successful winner of a game of the year award"
>>335052259
Also
>like Bayonetta 1 back in 2007?
You mean 2009? Shit, have you even played Bayonetta?
>>335052643
Yeah, your right. I didn't play them. You got me. I never played Bayonetta or DMC3 or 4 and that's why I know nothing. I'm just here listing facts and names and things from the game I saw on their Wikis and I came all the way here just to post on games I've never played so I can mock you.
Look, you special little snow flake, even if I made the one mistake my point stands. I've never seen an air stinger in DMC4 and Caliber doesn't count because it's not a stinger anymore than his ground move is. You can still do more in Bayonetta than you can in DMC and it doesn't make it the better game but you seem to want to drive the point that it somehow does and you can't seem to want to even knowledge that.
Whatever, nothing worth losing sleep over.
>>335052785
Fucking seriously? Who gives a shit? It's two years difference. Fucking call the presses, this guy got the date wrong, he clearly didn't play it, not like he just didn't give enough of a shit to google the dates because it's inconsequential.
Is DMC3 a perfect game? I can't really think of a major flaw.
>>335053609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTVi0jTWBgM
Let me know when they add advanced techniques to Bayonetta.
>>335053609
kek look at you getting pissed because someone's calling out your bullshit.
This is my favorite of that types of games (whatever you want to call it).
>>335053609
>I'm just here listing facts and names and things from the game I saw on their Wikis and I came all the way here just to post on games I've never played so I can mock you
I wouldn't be suprised if that was the case, since you keep getting shit wrong.
>Look, you special little snow flake
?
>Caliber doesn't count because it's not a stinger anymore than his ground move is
What makes it not a stinger? The move is nearly identical, just the Way Nero swings his sword is different.
>You can still do more in Bayonetta than you can in DMC and it doesn't make it the better game
But that was your entire arguement on why you thought Bayonetta had a deeper combat system
>>335033502
DMV3
Most options available. Quicksilver and doppelgänger and trickster etc. Beowulf, nevan an Agni an rudra are so satisfying to use
Second place is bayonetta
Third place is mgr just for armstrong
>>335053969
No, just because someone's retarded enough to think the release date is somehow proff of anything.
Some how it's not enough that a game is better, it has to be the best at everything or people get pissy and defensive, like you just shat on their birthday cake. the combat has more to offer, get over it.
>>335054379
>DMV3
I don't know... the lines are kinda shitty there.
>>335053965
https://www.youtube.com/user/n472a/videos
There you go. A player for all games.
>>335054082
>I wouldn't be suprised if that was the case, since you keep getting shit wrong.
Because a lot of it is trivial. One or two mistakes do not equate to me not playing the games. Fucking kidding me? Rather than addressing the point you go over the trivial parts to nitpick rather than arguing the entire point of the matter.
>But that was your entire arguement on why you thought Bayonetta had a deeper combat system
So if it's not what you can do in the game that makes combat deeper what is?
Anyway, I'd love to continue this conversation, no sarcasm, but I have to get to work. Latter gents.
>>335055331
>p-proving all the shit I said is wrong is nitpicking
>y-you didnt even argue my points
>*leaves*
ok
>>335055331
The combat in Bayonetta is not deeper than DMC, it never has been and it never will be.
Ninja Gaiden Black is still the king
>>335057110
NG2 > Black
>>335057210
NG2 doesn't have Shadow Ryu fights, Unlabored Flawlessness, Dabilahro and Kitetsu. Don't get me wrong, NG2 is still an amazing gameand is better than DMC 3 and 4but there's a lot holding it back from beating NGB.
>>335058385
Right.
Personally I love the delimb and OT mechanics too much to rank NGB higher than NG2
