So /v/, is vr a meme?
>>335025904
/thread
/v/ is not a place to discuss vr since everybody here is a neet and you can't torrent hardware, of course they will dismiss it since they haven't or never will try it
give it some more time, like 50 years ...
What happened to vr anyway?
All that hype and buzz everywhere but the moment they actually released them no one has said a word about them.
Is it officially over again for the next 10-20 years?
>>335026150
Man as an /o/fag I see this all the time, if you say one negative thing about anything some autist sperg out and goes NO ITS NOT BAD UR ALL JUST POORFAGS LMAO STAY JELLY AND MAD XDDD
The comic that feature dudebro /vr/, salty /v/ and loli /jp/ has the best explanation. I don't have one though.
>>335026361
it's right you know, almost nobody here has used vr.
VR is amazing. Can't wait until I move to my new flat so I actually have space for my Vive.
>>335026150
hey wait a minute, we have a /vr/ board
it's a stupid gimmick that i knew was going to be a financial failure
>>335026272
the answer to this is both Vive and Rift are having massive shipping issues. I bought a Vive and mine got delayed 2 and a half weeks, but a lot of Rift preorders are getting sent back months and months. Not enough people are playing because they flat out dont have them yet.
My Vive is actually arriving in a few hours
>>335026620
What made you pick vive over rift?
>>335026568
Retro video games is /vr/.
If you think /v/ is full of elitist assholes then you haven't seen /vr/
>>335026710
It was a gamble. The way the Vive works is that anything developed for the vive will work for all VR platforms, but things developed for oculus will be exclusive. Vive is about an open platform, OpenVR.
on top of that, the Vive in its current state already has the controllers, while Rift is getting super delayed for having theirs.
Prelaunch, there were a lot of complaints with the Rift's tracking ability, and their screen-door effect (visible pixel spacing). Since launch of cource the new Rift's screendoor effect is actually slightly better than the Vive's, but its still one of the reasons.
Budget Cuts, Job Simulator, and Raw Data looked too good to pass up.
and finally, I feel that Valve has got my back, theyve been doing a fuckton for devs to develop for the vive, like give away somewhere around 800 of them to devs to use
>>335026514
The telling trait of higher intelligence is the ability to judge things without having direct experience of them, i.e. abstraction.
>>335027106
Holy fuck you are retarded, vr is something nobody has experienced before
>>335027250
I wouldnt go that far, some Vives still arrived on schedule. Plenty of people have their hands on them
>>335025758
i dont know why these VR developer retards didnt think about making a flagship game to go along with their fucking goggles
at least half of what was dumped into developing the goggles should have been shoved onto a studio to crank out one big kickass VR game for the fucking goggles to show off how cool and awesome it/they will supposedly be
i mean would the Xbox even be a thing without Halo flagshipping the damn console?
>>335027291
As a concept it's something nobody has experienced before, therefore the pseudo-intellectual fedora gibberish is completely meaningless because you cannot imagine what it is like
>>335027479
Its a 3dtv combined with a TrackIR. you could also say a 360 display which also exists.
>>335027547
They are nothing alike
>>335027547
>Its a 3dtv combined with a TrackIR
Only people who haven't tried it keep repeating this meme.
>>335027250
An intelligent being, can tell that getting burned is going to be really painful even without ever being burned itself.
I'm aware what immersion is, I've got extensive knowledge of videogames and heard plenty of various opinions. That's enough to form a compelling opinion, which I've got faith it's going to be pretty similar to reality, just like happened to me with 3D faggotry and motion controls.
You should give a bit more trust to your brain, boy.
>>335025758
>still waiting for the 3d printer revolution
Yeah, it's a meme right now.
>>335027547
confirmed for never trying vr, thus proving the point.
>>335027707
>>335027670
>>335027773
I dont know where you are going with this. Its kind of exactly what i described. I ordered it and its arriving in like 4 hours. Describe how its not like that.
>>335027832
I've got a better idea. Why don't you make a thread later, talk about your first hand experience with the thing?
>>335027717
>it's another "college kid having an euphoric experience" episode on the internet
>>335027950
From what ive been reading, itll take a few hours to set up. The lighthouses what im the most concerned with, everything else is a bunch of wires, drivers, and programs that im not too worried about. My playspace is 7ft x 7ft
>>335027832
It's actually really hard to explain. I was skeptical of the tech, a few years back, until I tried it myself. It's partly about how good your head movements can be tracked and partly about the way your body reacts to things that are perceived to be there, next to you, that are your size or bigger. There's no real other point of reference to the experience of feeling like there's a lifesize being next to you.
also, you brain is tricked really easily when you have an HMD on your head. Have you ever played Mirror's Edge? When you fall of a building in that game, you can kind of feel it in your balls the first few times. Well, with an HMD, that feeling grabs you by the balls and punches you in the gut.
>>335026361
>>335026361
>some autist sperg out and goes LE LE XDDD LE
like you just did?
>>335028232
Which headsets have you used?
>>335027968
Sure kid, maybe one day you'll grow up.
It's a gimmick for most entertainment purposes except for porn.
It can be useful in other fields, though.
>>335028232
I get it dude, the way they all work together tricks your brain. It makes you think you're really there. Im just saying though, at a technical standpoint its the sum of those parts
>>335028524
>at a technical standpoint its the sum of those parts
Is that really relevant, though? I mean, it's the user experience that we're concerned with here.
>>335028280
I used an Oculus DK2 that a couple of friends bought to try and develop weird games with it. Of course, the experience wasn't perfect, the FOV wasn't that wide, there was a perceptive screen door effect and the head tracking was limited in the space that it could work, mostly because the camera was close to my head, I think.
But even with all of that, you can easily forget everything and get immersed in what is shown to you. It really is quite powerful an experience. If I had the money, I'd buy an HMD right away, but, that's not happening anytime soon. Maybe next holiday season.
>>335028524
>at a technical standpoint its the sum of those parts
So what? You can apply that to literally everything, we are talking about the experience here not the tech behind it.
>>335028652
>>335028606
I didnt realize when someone asked that question he wanted some kind of ethereal euphoric answer. Sorry if I dont turn on my hype man marketer copy.
VR is a meme to a degree, until it gets better and cheeper it will mostly just be a meme,
Most likely gaming will seperate itself into VR and controller seeing as they both specfically cater to different types of games and gamers,
VR will prob find a place in arcades
>>335028883
Oh wait, i just turned on my hype man marketer copy
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THE YEAR IS 20XX, THE NEW VIVULOUS THRIFT HAS RELEASED
WE'RE LAUNCHING A BOGIE INTO YOUR RIFTING, SMALL TIME GRIDSTER
AT 30,000 CREDS YOU TOO CAN DO SOME TIME IN A SMALL TIME TIMEPRISON
DECYCLE YOUR BRAIN JUICE BECAUSE ITS TIME TO REFILL THE MEMORY MACHINE
THIS ISNT ANY KIND OF CORNY-ASS FUTURE TALKIN'
THIS
IS
VR
>>335027717
I believe that you are wrong here. To be able to judge something, you need to have points of reference. Have you ever seen a child faced with a candle for the first time? Little shit doesn't know that that nice flame is gonna burn him. He touches it, realizes his mistake when it hurts and then cries.
So, if you raise a human, all the way to adulthood, in a white, featureless, room and the put him out in the world, motherfucker won't know what a fire is. He won't know that it's gonna be hot or even that heat can burn and hurt.
VR is kind of like that. The tech right now is far better than what existed 20 years ago. I tried those shitty HMDs in the 90's. What we have now is in another league altogether.
I don't particularly like Palmer Luckey and his use of corporate style buzzwords, but that mythical "feeling of presence" actually exists. It's totally different than watching a 3d movie or playing arma with TrackIr.
And the waggle controls? I haven't tried 'em, but something tells me, because I have previous points of reference with vr tech, that if the tracking is as convincing as what I felt with the HMD, it could be pretty cool.
>>335025758
Do you faggot even know what that word means
>>335027106
Funny because before I even had my DK2, I understand the prospects of the technology and was excited about it. Don't mistake bitter pessimism for being realistic.
Plus the idea that people that haven't tried it would know better than those that have, is utter stupidity. Like that youtube video people keep posting, naysayers are desperately looking for anything that supports their ideas and pretending it's the only evidence there.
>>335029447
No, they don't and they haven't for years. YEARS, man.
But, there's still a colloquial way that it's used here, so you better get used to it.
>>335028232
Maybe a good analogy would be comparing visiting a location to looking at pictures of it.
The Grand Canyon or Niagara Falls don't seem like much in photos but when you're there in person and take in the immense scale of it, you really appreciate it. It's the same difference between the tiny window of a monitor and a 360 VR experience.
>>335025758
VR is actually pretty awesome, current gen is "good enough" Next gen will be cheaper and much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHiPw5A3jc
VR is kind of cool.
its still a novelty experience. I could sit there and burn through hours. But its definitely a great party game and good in waves.
on the topic of the Vive, anyone got any recommendations for games?
Ive only bought Audioshield on top of the pre-order shit.
a little underwhelming desu.
>>335027106
Holy shit
It will be a bit of a fad for a while like the Wii. No way it will stick, though, because you can't actually play any good looking games due to the fact that:
A) Graphics need to be worse because they need to run at 90 frames per second in both screens
B) You can't release a game that has normal controls without having half the userbase barfing
Only good application for it is driving and flying games.
>>335030249
I got that, Wevr Transport because i heard a rumor it gives you the whale thing Theblu or whatever for free.
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes now has vive support and i already had that, thats for if you have friends to play with either in person or on a voice server.
and I got Virtual Desktop, Space Pirate Trainer and the demo for Budget Cuts.
I got my CV1, it's pretty cool. What are some games and apps I should get for it.
>>335030512
Is Space Pirate Trainer any good?
>>335030249
Tiltbrush seems cool if you're an arty type.
https://virtualart.chromeexperiments.com
>>335030702
got it already for free though.
>>335029768
Yeah, I guess. I might use that analogy the next time someone uses the "it's only a 3d monitor strapped to your face" excuse.
I've actually had an experience with vr that fits the analogy perfectly. I was at an art show style exhibit, last year, where the had a bunch of HMDs running documentaries filmed with 360 degrees cameras. Even if the camera tech was a nit janky and not quite there yet, there's nothing quite like being in a yurt in mongolia and seeing the daily lives of yak herders. There's a moment where a herd of yak pass all around you and it's pretty impressive.There was another one about a Syrian refugee camp in Jordan. It really changes your perspective on it when you actually feel like you are there. There was a scene where they showed the inside of the tent with all the videogames. It was a bunch of old ass PCs playing these old videogames. I turned around and behind me there was this kid playing GTA 3.
>>335030832
wheres this jordan game?
that sounds fucking crazy. how can i see this?
>>335030993
I'm not sure of its availability. It was call Clouds Over Sidra. I'll try to find a link.
It's more of a documentary than a game, though.
>>335030625
It seems like the most robust shooter so I picked it up. its a good addition to the collection until something else better comes up
>>335031162
Thats cool with me, is it on Steam?
>>335031162
Is there enough content to justify that price?
Thats so many cheap games on here and 11 quid seems quite steep.
>>335031158
Is this it?
https://vrse.com/watch/clouds-over-sidra/
Whats the best way to view this kind of stuff on the Vive?
The Vive software seems really fucking bad...
>>335031328
Its cheap and simple. just a platform with shooting, real simple, but it looks good enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wENwGQckN_8
>>335030249
Don't have a Vive but most of the free games and demos on steam look like they're worth downloading even for short experiences.
When PSVR comes out we'll know for sure.
>>335031406
Yeah, that's it. Unfortunately, I can't help you with the Vive thing. Like I said, I watched it at a vr exhibit about 10 months ago. It looks like it works with gearvr and google cardboard, so even if it isn't supported by the Vive, someone might have hacked up a solution for it.
It also looks like you can view it online as a 360 video, you could be able to view that with the vive. Don't know if there's a difference between the vrse app and viewing it on youtube, though.
>>335030249
If you don't mind something in development, Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Handgrenades is fun. Not a huge amount of content because it's not finished, but the gun mechanics are really cool and I'd love to see a full game with those mechanics.
>>335031989
Did they even say they were making a full game? I was under the impression that it was going to stay as a sandbox.
Im also wondering Bullet Train is coming to Vive or is it staying a rift exclusive
>>335032118
I didn't mean to imply it would be more than a big sandbox, I just meant that a full game with the same amount of effort put into the guns would be great. Something like WW1 trenches to give you a reason you can't run around. As long as more stuff keeps getting added to HHH, I'll be happy to start it up every week or two to try it out.
Fuck vr, we /vr/ now
>all those retards not looking forward to VR
>>335025758
Literally destined to fail.
The target audience doesn't particularly want it and can't justify the cost.
Got a Gear on a whim since I already had an S6, made me a beliver. My PC's good enough for the upper end VR but I'm going to wait a bit since it's a huge purchase decision. I wish the Gear wasn't just mobileshit, but it is a legitimately awesome experience. .
>>335032471
First thing I did with MMD on the DK2, absolutely amazing. If anyone here hasn't seen anime girls in VR, give it a go. It's surreal.
>>335032553
i dunno, showed my mom it and her instant response was "Were getting one" to her partner.
This thing is pretty damn impressive. Its just how they market it and get the price down.
>>335033882
I tried real girls, VR porn is a huge let down. When theres tits and ass in your face you want to touch it, the fact you cant is more of a disconnect than just watching normal 2D porn.
Is there a VR game yet that lets me drift and listen to eurobeat?
>>335036157
I want this bad man
>>335036157
I think Euro Truck Sim 2 has Vive support now. For normal racers youll have to wait a bit
>>335036157
Project Cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tck4vdoOOx8
Posting this from my Vive.
It's really good, just wish I had more space outside of my living room
>>335037019
You using Virtual Desktop? I was wondering if it was worth the $15 for my OR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsna1ChGt0E
I cant wait to see those youtube gamer screaming
:^)
>>335037164
Yeah. It works well, but low-ish resolution means it's still not perfect for straight up desktop viewing.
It's the best thing around for 360 videos (porn) that I know of, so worth it for that alone.
Good for viewing video content in general
I can already see it. Return of the Kinect/Playstation Move/Wii motion controls days
50%+ of this years E3 is going to be VR garbage on consoles
The gimmicky shit is back
>>335025758
The cost of it is a pretty fucking huge barrier for most.
I'd imagine people would only buy it around christmas or something. Not to mention the demographic you would want to sell it to would much rather go to their local walmart and buy 1 than have to figure out how to order something online and wait.
such is the age of instant gratification
>>335030249
Definitely try out modbox
>>335029306
HEY
YOU STILL DON'T OWN A SEGA CD
How's everyone doing, I'm posting from outer space in my VR headset.
>>335038912
In space, can you still read when I call you a faggot?
>>335027693
Holy fuck
>>335025758
>TFW just fapping with my Gear VR
Craning your head back to see a huge animu girl makes me feel like a little man.
Wish there were more controls in the image gallery through like turning pics into panoramas or something
>>335039448
That's right fellow faggot. Can browse and play vidya on my giant virtual screen.
>>335040293
What software are you using? I'm thinking of picking up a Gear in a few weeks.
>>335041875
It's the built in Oculus image gallery or the Milkvr app.
Most of the porn vids make the actresses seem really big too which is neat but can be immersion breaking for normies.
>>335042796
It's not like they're doing it on purpose. Their camera setups are fucked.
>>335026272
i am to busy playing my vive games
>>335028142
>a few hours
i spent 15 minutes to put the base stations onto light stands, while the software install was downloading
>>335043974
Took my about 30 minutes to set up everything on my OR.
>>335044165
The Rift's single sensor is probably quicker to set up than the Vive's two lighthouses, though.
>>335030625
it is awesome, im actually breaking a sweat playing it. was just playing it for 3 hours, and im soaked. gonna get sore for sure, but its awesome.
Does this look like a meme to you?
>>335025758
I feel like this at parties all the time.
Has anyone tried Altspace?
>>335025758
VR will be like a flight stick
really nice to have for the games that it works with but you wont use it for every single game you play and it will never replace anything and become a standard
>>335027717
You're a living, breathing parody. Congratulations.
>>335026272
Kinda answered yourself, it actually launched, with the worst launch titles it could have launched with too.
>>335025758
>500 dollar vech demo machine
>anything but a meme
>>335045032
yes, its pretty neat to hang out with people
>>335045512
Does it gain anything from being VR beyond regular voice chat, though?
>>335045046
This. With my OR right now, it's fun to have for flying in space ships and driving cars. Wonder how long it will take for a good VR MMO to come out so I can start playing.
>>335045512
Does it cost anything? I may get it.
>>335045684
believe it or not , it is adding body language by having tracked heads and hands, and there are some activities, like board games, and even a D&D table in one of the taverns.
I think VR is gonna go places not just video games/medical but even the entertainment industry
Imagine if you will
A virtual strip club
>GET TO PLAY YOUR OWN MUSIC
>GET TO DRINK YOUR OWN DRINKS
>GET TO SMOKE WEED IF YOU WANT
Not like you were going to touch these bitches anyway
>>335045808
alt space is free on steam. you can even watch youtube videos with people online. or share a web browser on a video wall to show off stuff.
>>335046140
dont forget the stuff you can pick up and mess with, like swords and shields and all kinds of physics items.
>>335046246
But you can do that for less than 600~800 dollars...and the 800~1k pc tower....
>vr is going places
>>335046246
Those sorts of things were always a given, anon. You're not saying anything we didn't already know.
>>335046626
How about a hundred dollars and a normie phone?
>>335046818
What the fuck kind of headset is that? Some sort of early HD prototype?
>>335026272
It's still too expensive for mass market and there isn't a killer app for either headset. I hear actually using VR feels "amazing, almost dreamlike", but only people with money and adequate space will be able to experience it.
>>335046916
I don't know.
