What's /v/ opinion on optional censorship of lewd content in your Japanese video games?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/377880/discussions/0/368542844486831182/
>>335016783
"Optional" is the key word here, which benefits both parties of "I don't want to see boobies", "YEAH BOOBIES", and "I don't care either way just let me play the fucking game without changing it."
But the game isn't good?
>>335016852
Personally I'm fine with it, but I feel it should be uncensored by default. And let's be honest, nobody was gonna boycott a good game just because some content they don't like. Unless they're actual retards.
I don't know of anyone who wants to play weeb shit, but hates weeb shit
I think if you're gonna make it optional then I don't get why you'd do it in the first place.
that said it's better than just cutting/changing shit entirely and leaving customers with no out that doesn't involve piracy other legally unacceptable options.
>>335016997
this is definitely the main thing though. I remember reading something the other day complaining about NISA I think where the person pointed out that this audience of "I like weeb stuff but half naked anime girls triggers me pls remove" the people making these changes think will buy their game doesn't exist.
>>335016783
This is as stupid as the option to turn off gore during the 90s.
>>335017110
I meant compared to forcing censorship. Though personally I find the censorship not needed to begin with.
Apparently this was a vita game but me and vitagen have never heard of it
>>335017323
It's strange since it's lewd, a bit like Monster Monpiece minus the rubbing.
idgaf anymore, I caved and learned nip and the world is all the better for it
>no more waiting for subgroups
>no more hoping translators pick up a manga or hentai
>don't have to wait for my porn to hit the english web
>can into japanese web to find music that I'd otherwise never hear
of course, I can also play games without needing it picked up by a localization team, but the benefits for porn and music are probably the best thing you gain from learning nip
As long as all content is there from the original.
>>335017487
No you didnt.
>>335016783
>a bunch of random hobo on steam can do it
>one of the biggest gaming company in the world can't
explain this bullshit /v/
>>335017630
Something something reputation.
>>335017487
No one ever learns Japanese, you are always in the process of it.
That said how long have you been doing it
>>335016783
This is a good compromise and every publisher should do this instead of forced censorship.
There is nothing wrong with letting both parties have their way, if it's doable. Good on these guys for finding a middle ground.
>>335017726
that's true, I've been doing it for three years and the last time I tried to have an actual conversation in real time, I felt like the FOBs must feel in America.
Not gonna lie I have no interest in it, but good to see a dev listening to their fucking fans for once.
I did buy Code of Princess and man, that localization was memetastic. I know it's not on them but on Fatlus, though.
>>335016783
Yet more evidence that every time Atlus or NISA said "we had to censor this to release it in the west" they were lying through their teeth.
>>335018506
Atlus are lying scums. Don't you remember Code of Princess was english dubs only? What was their excuse for not giving JP dubs?
>>335018640
Does Atlus ever give Jap voices?
I think is a company policy to only offer eng dubs in the west
>>335018506
Of course not, they do their fucking shitty localizations because that's what their employees want.
The lead localizator for Fire Emblem Fates came from Atlus.
>>335018679
Back in PS2 days?
>>335018679
Dungeon Travellers 2 was Japanese audio only, most likely because dub actors would refuse to voice such an icky fanservice game.
Persona 4 Arena was dual-audio but then then fucked it up by making it one of only a tiny handful of PS3 games that was region-locked, and then they made Ultimax dub-only.
>>335016852
Having the option is the best decision, I agree. Some people are going to bitch about it either way, regardless.
>>335018640
Probably because of you play it with the Japanese track you'll realize the localization is fanfiction.
Interestingly the PC port is Japanese track only, though they still use the memetastic script. The dub must have belonged to Atlus.
>>335016783
Nice, will buy when it comes out. That and Monster Monpiece .
>>335016783
I'd care if it was, y'know, a good game. Optional is still a good solution toi be fair.
>>335018807
>most likely because dub actors would refuse to voice such an icky fanservice game.
Please nigga. Many other games with fanservice had been dubbed. Nep games are dubbed all the time.
>>335018640
They have to renegotiate with the JP cast to bring voices over and Code of Princess probably wasn't going to sell enough to justify doing it.
>>335018907
If you think Neptunia is comparable to DT2 then I can only imagine you haven't played either.
>>335016783
While it's obviously better than forcing censorship on everyone it is still pretty retarded.
Why?
Because people who get triggered by some lewd art have already option to censor themselves - by not fucking playing the damn game.
Catering to SJWs who are finding issues where there aren't any is pants on head retarded. Just fucking ignore them and all the complaining will go away like it did with 90s gore/blood/violence like >>335017110 mentioned.
This just enables them. Fuck anyone who gets triggered by stuff like this.
It's always a drawn picture of some chinese cartoon girl, or it is just bunch of polygons. It's called fanservice, it's what sells the damn fucking game. Often it's literally everything that the damn game has to offer. Without it it's just bland generic shit with meh gameplay.
tl;dr Optional censorship is redundant. You don't have to play it if you can't handle anime tiddies.
>pay money for someone to redraw those pictures
>that no one ever will use (still not saw anyway)
>face backlash, forced to include original art
Something is still annoying but it's good compromise. Better than shutting it down or ignoring the people.
>>335018943
Exactly why not? Both have lewd scenes and Nep lewd scenes were dubbed. It proves to point that icky fanservice games can be dubbed when you said actors would refuse to do it.
>>335018915
>still defending Atlus AGAIN when Degica, a tiny company, managed to bring the game with JP audio
CANCER.
>>335019063
Oops I meant not SFW. Why would anyone use the censored images then? Not like you're going to play this outside.
>>335016783
I never understood the NEED of censor this kind of niche game.
>>335019072
Because Neptunia's lewd scenes are nowhere near as lewd as DT2's lewd scenes, and also nowhere near as plentiful.
>>335019271
A lewd scene is a lewd scene. You're nitpicking on how often it comes up which isn't relevant since your argument was how no voice actor would do this shit.
A job is a fucking job. If they don't do it, they're fired and someone else will be hired who is willing to do some voice acting regardless if it's lewd or not. And frankly... only a sjw retard would turn down a good voice acting job that can led to many more potential future jobs.
>>335019409
>A lewd scene is a lewd scene.
Two girls giggling about each other's breasts as they get changed isn't really the same thing as girls sucking magic semen out of dick monsters while making blowjob noises.
>Look at the Steam forums
>Find a dev comment when the censorship was just getting brought up
>It does have to do with very very young depicted characters.
>A very small percent of cards are altered, and only cards that depicted very young girls.
Why do they hate the lolis?
>>335019521
nigga, we've had porn stars do voice acting for hentai dubbings. Do you seriously think we can't find fucking english voice actors willing to voice act out a blowjob scene in some weebshit game?
>>335019638
>Porn stars
Yes, clearly an apt comparison is to assume that the already prudish American voice actors would be as willing to voice sexual scenes as porn stars.
>>335019574
They fear backlash. They know video games are a hotspot for controversy and not accepted as they are like anime and manga.
Another reason could be that the localizators hate the content and want it changed, and they convince the higher ups that this is a good idea.
Lately it's the latter, I'd say.
>>335019735
>clearly an apt comparison is to assume that the already prudish American voice actors would be as willing to voice sexual scenes as porn stars.
You're assume every single voice actor would refuse to do what is asked for their job. If they agreed to the contract, then they have to do it. Otherwise, don't take the job in the first place. There are plenty of others willing to do it.
>NickPalmer [developer] 15 Apr @ 3:53am
>I would, by the way, point out that Degica is a Japanese company, and the person who made the decision on which cards to suggest to alter was Japanese. And the company that implemented the alterations (the devs themselves) are also Japanese.
>I know I have a nice American face and name showing here on Steam, but please do not take that to mean that these decisions were made by people who are not aware of the original culture of the product.
Star Ocean 5 all over again. How do we get these stupid fucking Japs to stop trying to tone their games down for fear of western backlash that doesn't fucking mean anything?
>>335020014
SO5 cansored it everywhere
This is only for the west even if the nips did it
>>335016783
They should never have bothered censoring it in the first place but at least this is a better option.
>>335020358
The point was that the Jap devs decided themselves to censor it out of fear for the west.
>This is only for the west even if the nips did it
It wasn't, it applied to the Japanese Steam release too.
>>335020014
Create a counter movement demanding censorship to stop
You need blogs, game reviewers and journalists
So a ton of money
>>335020426
>Japan
>steam
They know its all weeb westerners pretending to be Japanese
>>335020439
Current journalists are pro censorship.
>>335020502
Thats why you have to buy some
Journalists are pro money, they have no morals
>>335016783
optional is good as long as it's not "paid optional".
>>335020495
Are you fucking retarded? There are over 2 millions Japanese accounts on Steam.
>>335020710
All weebs
>>335020728
No, they're people from Japan. Retard.
>>335020769
Thats what they want you to think.
>>335020797
Stop being fucking retarded.
