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>LMAO, LETS ADD A BOSS THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU
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>LMAO, LETS ADD A BOSS THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU PLAY SOLO
Literally an always online DRM in disguise.
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From what i heard the CODEX version has online
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It's an optional boss.
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>Impossible if you play solo
Not at all. No shit he's going to be challenging, but you should at least learn to play the game.
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>>335015640
>yet another shitter chucking a tantrum on 4chan

Grow up
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>>335015741
>>335015716
>LEL HE'S EZ I ONLY NEEDED 3 PHANTOMS FOR HIM LELELE
Go back to /b/.
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>Have trouble with boss
>summon a friend
>holy shit, friend is such a shitter that he can't deal with the boss without ember-health
>do it solo instead
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>Still have PTSDs from the crocodile-wolf and the bullshit hitbox of his side-bite
>Get down a ladder into a sewer right after Pontiff
>Two of these fuckers waiting for you, can't aggro only one of the, can't cheese with a bow from atop since the ladder goes too deep.

Post yfw
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>>335015676
>>335015676

It does. You make rooms with a specific password and it connects you to a network of other players doing the same.
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>>335015640
The first phase is easier if you keep him at a distance, because it's camera hell up close. The second phase is easy once you get the weird timing of his attacks.
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>>335015909
>can't aggro only one of them

but you can though
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>>335015909
You can aggro one at a time though, use your bow idiot.
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>>335015819
Keep your autism to yourself and don't have another outburst when trying mock another anonymous poster please.
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>>335015909
>can't aggro only one of them
Anon, I...
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>>335015640
git a gud greatshield. Was having a lot of trouble with his second phase but beat him first try solo after I equipped havel's shield
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>LOOK GUISE HOW HARDCORE I AM
>MUH EGOO, STROKE IT BITCH
>INTERNET CRED AND UBBOATS HERE I COME
>I SOLO'D EVERY BOSS FIRST TRY DEPRIVED SL1
>AM I COOL YET GUISE?
>VIDYA GAEMS, SRS BZNZ
Where did you spend your time, when /v/ turned /b/3.0?
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>>335015640
Not sure if this is the right kind of thread to ask in, but I'm going to anyway. I was trying to go full STR for this game, but it ended up being no fun at all. Then I tried to do just a Caestus run and that wasn't much more fun.

So instead I'm trying out my first build that involves dex, I guess you guys call them 'quality' builds. Decided to go for a tricky Ninja theme, since I still wanted to punch people.

How does it look so far? Anything I should change?
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>>335016327
Got salt?
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>>335015909
>>Two of these fuckers waiting for you, can't aggro only one of the, can't cheese with a bow from atop since the ladder goes too deep.
I just equipped my strongest weapon and two handed it. Then I baited them both out and climbed the ladder, about halfway up I waited until they were both under me and hopped off then did a plunging attack. While they were recoiling I climbed back up and did it again. Killed them both after two jumps
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>>335015640
>boss can be soloed
>fromcoding even lets pirates to play online this time
how can someone being so wrong with so little text
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>>335016360
get some rope bombs nigga
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>>335016360
>over 50%
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>>335016489
The only people that disslike Co-Op are the dickwraiths getting their ass handed to them, since they can't win that easy anymore.

You niggers are clearly the salty ones.
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They'll probably add summonable bots like they did in bloodborne at some point...
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>>335015640
learn to time your rolls. you can do this boss without getting hit.

also git gud faggot
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This same thread 19 times a day for every boss
I love it
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I don't see people complain much about Aldrich, but I probably died the most to him. What's the best way to deal with his arrow rain during the second phase?
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>>335015640
>LMAO LETS SPEND ALL DAY EVERY DAY MAKING "LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE" THREADS FOR ATTENTION ON THE INTERNET
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>>335016623
Mid-Roll goes up to 70% in DaS3
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>>335015640
>tfw I missed this boss because I played blind

I'm torn between going to him on my overleveled character and playing my second character with a guide until I reach him, I feel like I'm missing out
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>>335016921
I managed to outrun/dodge it, it got me a few times but I survived and sipped, all of his other attacks are easy to deal with so I didn't have too much trouble
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>>335017047
How overleveled? I took him on around 90 and it was still a decent challenge.
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>>335017047
Dark Souls 3 progression is designed in a way that you can't really get overleveled like the previous games.
In Dark Souls, if you got to end-game and went back to the Undead Parish, enemies would be doing like 1/200th of your health each hit.
In Dark Souls 3, even at end game old areas can still be a challenge if you're caught off-guard and can even get you killed. They've designed the enemies to be aggressive enough while keeping your defense scaling low enough that it still feels like an effort.
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>>335016921
>What's the best way to deal with his arrow rain
Pray to god he won't use it
Its literally impossible to dodge it if you are hitting him
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>>335016623
I can be under 30% if I only use the claws, but it seems more Ninja like to have the bow and two katana as backup
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>>335017342
I'm around 96-97 so I guess it's worth a try

>>335017447
that's true, I didn't level vigor that much either so enemies from early areas still fuck me up if I get too reckless
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>>335017553
I'd say go for it, he's definitely right up there with Pontiff as one of the most challenging bosses, so those levels aren't going to benefit you too much while he throws lighting bolts up your asshole.
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>>335017553
Just a friendly tip from someone that just beat this guy a few minutes ago.
The camera is going to be your biggest enemy during this fight, it might be a good idea to lock on only while you're swinging your weapon, then go back to free cam so that it doesn't freak the fuck out
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>can wreck the mount without getting hit
>rider instantly destroys me
Every fucking time. I'm getting flashbacks to stage 2 of Orphan of Kos(m).
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>Put my sign down to help people
>Host sits back as far as possible while me and the other phantom whittle him down
>Starts doing the lightning strike
>Host of Embers has died. Returning to your world.

This is my favorite fight.
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>>335015640

Get a fast weapon and upgrade it to +10. Also level up some vigor, you fuck.

Just beat the game on NG+++. Nameless King is piss easy. Getting a critical attack on him with the ring does wonders.
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>>335017447
It doesn't feel like an effort, it feels like a chore.
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Killed him Solo on regular and NG+. Probably a combination of me playing all of the Dark Souls and try harding.
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>>335015640
>get Lothric Knight Shield
>equip Speckled Stoneplate Ring
>never dies
Took me 4 tries as I was out of embers
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>>335015640
Use a bow. And stop trying to marathon the game; I was getting my ass handed to me after a long play session. Came back the next day and killed him no problem.

And if you can't kill angry chicken phase with zero damage then uninstall the game.
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>>335017915
>waaah i have to play the game
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>>335017532

>Its literally impossible to dodge it if you are hitting him

So don't hit him. You have enough time to stop hitting when he starts pointing his bow towards the sky. And I did it with a Fume UGS.
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SUPER BEST FRIENDS PLAY WHEN
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>>335015640
The key to his first face is handling him like every other encounter. Stay in front of him and dodge towards him to get attacks in. Also gives you enough room to dodge the fire breath bullshit. Second phase is baiting lunges and never attacking more than once or twice, he'll slap your shit if you overextend.
Roll towards him whenever he does a stinger move
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>>335018280
>watching lets plays
wew, how fucking lame can you get
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>>335016921
Unlock the camera and run like fuck. Stay closer to him for the rest of the fight so he doesn't use it as much
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>tfw didn't notice until after I bought 99 Homeward Bones that the sword fragment thing is essentially an infinite use homeward bone
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REAL TALK HERE

They should've split the fight in two. Buffed the dragon phase in HP a bit, then after you kill it you start right with Nameless King every time you respawn.
After you learn everything the dragon got, it's just wasting your time for 2-3 minutes before you get to the real fight.
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>>335018280
How can they make so much money from playing videogames and still be so bad at them? Super Mario RPG was seriously frustrating, because it took them ages to find out that they can actually run.

>>335018407
Makes sense that he would use it more often if the player is far away. I usually kept my distance from him right after he teleported and then got pelted by arrow spam.
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>>335018619
I just rushed him like with Crystal Sage and he pretty much only used his swipe and then crumbled.
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>>335017532
>Its literally impossible to dodge it if you are hitting him
Stop fucking smacking him for a second then you spastic. For the first phase rain you just move away from it and for the second one that follow you just try and move in a square, rolling for i-frames if it gets onto you
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>>335015640
>>335015819
I beat him solo (just like every other boss, I didn't summon at all until NG+).
Just equip the carthus bloodring and he becomes easy.
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>>335018718
>using crutchtus ring
Sorry, I'm not THAT much of a scrub.
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>>335019026
Then just time your rolls better, hell his grab attack literally can't hurt you if you aren't retarded.
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>>335018718
pedo faggot
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>>335019113
>crutchtus faggot giving advice
Go way, kid.
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I don't understand these threads. Is it the same retard just shitposting?

Look at this shitty paint picture. That is every fucking boss in the game. If by the time you reach the Nameless King you haven't figured out how to deal with pic related alone in melee you deserve every bit of misery that comes your way.
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>>335019113
I got hit by it every time. Still beat him because I could dodge his other attacks pretty well.

How should I dodge the grab? Go toward him?
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>>335019134
Nothing wrong with that.
>>335019287
If you mash the triggers/bumpers fast enough after he grabs you the attack will do no damage even though the animation will continue like normal.
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>>335019360
Shit, really? Does the same thing work with all other grabs?
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>>335016659
It's as if you didn't just go on a full retard rant about internet ego or something, Salty one.
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>>335015640
Dragon phase is retarded easy and if you have no clue how to roll then get the dragonslayer shield and block everything.
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>>335019360
I'd like to return these little girls, they have dicks.
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>>335018619
He usually spawns in the opposite corner when he fucks off so prepare to run in that direction.
I did the same mistake and finally beat him by staying at his ass all fight. Still gotta be prepared to dodge the magic spam though. Fight is a micromanagement hell
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>>335015640
I just beat him today, took me seven tries but I'm happy.
No magic, faith or help.
Feels good.
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How the fuck do I fight Soul of Cinder
I've been fucking everywhere like 20 times and I can't figure out where I'm supposed to go
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>>335019585
Those are features you entitled shit
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>>335015640
HAHAHAHA IMPOSSIBLE


KNOCK THE FUCKER OFF HIS BIRD

THEN MAKE HIM AS A JOKE TO THE GODS

SLAY HIM AND HIS MIGHTY STICK

LET HIM MISS AND CRY TO HIS LORD IN PAIN

AS I STICK HIM WITH MY LONGSWORD

THIS MAN IS NO KING

I SLEW HIM ALONE AND ALONE HE DIED
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>>335019439
You can escape all grabs early, but not all of them can you completely negate the damage.
The reason why you can do it with his grab is because there is a long period before the grab will actually do any damage, so if you "escape" the grab before the damage part comes it doesn't do any damage.
>>335019585
Sorry, no refunds.
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>>335015640
I did it solo with just a longbow.

GIT GUD
I
T

G
U
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>Wahh I'm sad From blew me the fuck out for stealing their game
KEK
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>>335019667
p-pls respond
I want to get to NG+ already for the not shit versions of rings
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>>335015640
>my controller doesn't have a dodge button : the post

Shit, anon. Buy a new controller or something.
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>>335018586
The problem with the dragon is the camera.
I'm using JoyToKey since other means aren't working for me, and i can't change targets when i'm targeting something. This fight was hell because of that. First Boss that i summoned someone for.
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>>335018619
>Makes sense that he would use it more often if the player is far away.
I actually found that he used it more if I rushed him as soon as he teleported. It's basically guaranteed death if you try and hit him through it.
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>>335019667
Place the lord souls on their thrones in firelink.
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>getting mad because you are opting out of the defining feature of the series
Also is saying each individual boss is impossible a new meme?
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>>335017447
I noticed this when I went back to the high wall to kill the dickwraith. It's kind of annoying.
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>>335020960
>bosses
>defining feature of the Souls series
And another feature is how hard it is, right? Way to miss the point, pcuck.
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>>335018718
>rolling

I fucking face rolled him with my greatshield/sword

git fucked dex fag
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>>335015819
>>335015640
The salt is real
He's totally doable solo, you just have to be good
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>>335021050
>implying
I killed him with 2h moonlight greatsword, using a str/int build and no magic
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>>335021027
Works other way too. I farmed 20k souls killing him and got the tower key way earlier than my first playthrough.
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>>335021148
>2h
>rolling

my point still stands

get fucked
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>>335015640
Beat this faggot with the yhorms great machete.
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I third tried him
Come back after you played the other Souls games you fucking baby
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ALRIGHT FAGGOTS

HOW MANY OF YOU SOLO'D THE FINAL BOSS

HOW MANY WERE TOO PUSSY AND SUMMONED
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>>335015640
>being surprised that a boss fight in a bad game in a bad game series is badly designed.
Your fault, I hope you pirated at least.
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>>335021050
>>335021148
>>335021176
>the only correct way to play a game is MY WAYYY

face it youre both fucking retards
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>>335021315
nah m8

my way is the best way, objectively

stay mad
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>>335015909

I was raging about that too.

Pull one at a time with bow and stay within the first square of the room to avoid engaging the other one.
Keep a bit of distance at all times or you'll get fucked by his sidebite and camera fuckery. When he does the sidebite, roll out.
You can get like 3 hits in on his ass when he does lightning breath, and have time to avoid the sidebite.

What SL are you? I could perhaps help.
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Was a cake walk for me solo. I found pontiff, abyss watchers, gyndir and souls of cinder more difficult.
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>>335018029
Don't complain about me summoning for fights on my first run.

Most of the time the combat just isn't fun to me. Which sucks because that's basically the entire game. The map design, NPC quests and lore feel like a bloody mess.
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>>335015909
Had this quandary until I found out how easy it was to perform a visceral attack on them after striking their head. They went down in seconds
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>>335021429
why do you even play the game

I dropped DaS2 because of those reasons
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>>335021176
>>335021050
Only scrubs use shields.
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>>335021553
says the rolling scrub
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>>335021281
I solo'd every boss except Pontiff Sullivan (Had Anri with me, I thought it might affect her quest) and Champion Gundyr (Had Swordmaster with me, I wanted some shonen friendship against a stronger enemy).

Final boss was pretty tough, but I didn't die to him nearly as much as I did on Nameless King. Either he was easier or I got gud.
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>>335015640
He's one of the fairest fights in the game, get good
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>>335015640

>Mfw I beat him solo and using a slow 2h mace on top of that

I can ACTUALLY say get gud
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DaS3 is my first soulsborne and I managed to kill him in 20 tries, I did save him for last though, but if I can do it, anyone can do it.

He's a bitch for when you want to help out in co-op though, the stage is so big that when he draws aggro to someone, you'll often be out of reach for dealing damage.
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>>335016327
Why are people bad at Souls games so salty all the time? It's not a milestone you have to beat to be good, you can play other games. You can play co-op if you want, that's why the mechanic exists
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>>335021429
How have you not figured this out after 5 games
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>>335017874
what if the host has used all his estuses, the boss is almost dead, and said host has really low health? Happened to me with one boss
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>>335021563
>holding l1 is harder than timing rolls
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>>335021685
>spamming B is harder than timing strikes
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>>335016360
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>>335021685
>tapping circle is harder than conserving stamina
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>>335015949
>>335015676


There's another crack I use and I can connect to the official servers directly without creating a password (wtf)

REVOLT crack
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>>335021501
Theme. Mostly. I feel like they didn't put enough effort into the "hollows are exploding with abysall death arms, because reasons" motif that they used a few times near the start.

I liked exploring to see all of the things I liked about the map design of DaS1, though in this one it's mostly just "oh I can see that place, I've been there".

I'm doing a second play through to try and make some of the NPC quests work, because I find that aspect interesting, though they seem convoluted as fuck, and finnicky; hense my second play through because on my first I missed all but the first interactions with at least 5 different characters.
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>>335021971
>I feel like they didn't put enough effort into the "hollows are exploding with abysall death arms, because reasons" motif that they used a few times near the start.

you would like bloodborn
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>>335016360
you have decent int and an attunment slot, you should put hidden body or spook in there. They're both very useful.
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>>335021281
SOLO BOYS
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>>335016921
For a start, just know what it looks like when he's about to use it. It has a very distinct animation. At this point, turn the fuck around and RUN away until it stops. You will never get hit if you do this.
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>>335022029
Yeah, I've got Spook in there right now, hidden body might be cooler though, I'll have to see if I can cast it
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It's a bait thread episode
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>>335021932
It actually use the password RVT, anon.
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>>335021971
>I feel like they didn't put enough effort into the "hollows are exploding with abysall death arms, because reasons" motif that they used a few times near the start.
It's a manifestation of the corruption caused by the abyss. Any red-eyed enemy is succumbing to something similar. Some of the skeletons even die as a regular then pull back together abyssal.
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>>335018010
I'm playing blind

Where is the speckled ring? I got all the others but missed this
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>>335021281
Solo. His 2nd phase really fucked me hard every time and good thing I put a message on the old demon king bonfire and it got rated in the middle of the fight. Would've lost otherwise
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>>335015640
I've not died more than twice on any boss so far. Most I did first try like Dancer and Pontiff which were apparently supposed to be hard. Do people not level up or something?
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>>335021632
If the host managed to use all their estus and still have low health despite sitting at the back of the fucking theater and watching the two people they summoned fight the boss with opera glasses, then they deserve to get struck by lightning.
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>>335022426
I had a ton of trouble with Pontiff because of the fucking input queueing system, but Dancer was a cakewalk
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>>335022426
Forgot to add I haven't summoned, obviously. The boss that's given me the most trouble is probably Deacons actually, which I did on my third try. I don't think anything else had taken more than 2 attempts.
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My covenant icon is surrounded by roots or something, what does it mean?
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>>335022746
Hollowing
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>>335021971
I don't like that a lot of the quests seem to require you to go to certain places you have no reason to go to and can be missed if you progress too far. Like summoning Sirris on the bridge, how was I supposed to know to run all the way back and summon her? Maybe I've been missing cues.
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>>335022832
Patches is really weird
>Have to get weirdly close to the well to discover Seigward
>Have to have not opened the tower door by that point which you can easily do before then (though going back still works, but why would you?)
>Have to open the main door out of the chapel, leave completely and then come back for him to be at the bridge
>Have to have not killed the giants by then which can easily be done
>Will just appear in an extremely out of the way location in Firelink
I COMPLETELY missed him on my first playthrough because I didn't even know about Siegward, and I had already done both of the other things by the time I'd gotten to that point anyway.
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>>335016274

>tfw 11 str faith build
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>>335023042
I didn't know about Siegward being in the well, rather.
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Why did they make shield useless, i cant roll for shit.
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>>335015640

Got him in 15 attempts, solo, SL85.
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>>335023246
People probably hid behind their shield too much in previous games so they were nerfed a lot here.
I recommend Silver Knight shield if you want good stability and still parry. Greatshield if you just want to block.
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>>335023463
Eh I wanted to use heavy weapon and shield, but the weapon is too slow for bosses and shield is pointless with their unlimited stamina attacks. At best i can just block them forever not even having 1 stamina to attack.
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>>335023794
>I am bad at the game make it easy for me
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>>335015640

mfw I killed him with a +1 longbow and standard arrows
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>>335023246
>>335023463
Shields were worse in DS2, since stamina regen was very slow and the shield stagger animation took like 3 seconds.
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>>335023794
Shield don't really work as your only defence against bosses. I use them as insurance as I dodge their attacks. I think heavy weapons require you to dodge more instead of defending.
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>>335023794
I use a 2H fume ultra grestsword and few hits missed.
I wasn't a blocking cuck though so maybe that's why I had time and stamina to attack.
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Im having a hard time on this also. Which is good.
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>>335024132
I dunno, I'm fairly sure defending at least cost less stamina which is a huge factor. Stamina regen shouldn't be problem as you should lower the shield while regaining stamina.
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>>335021932
>Pirates are playing in the ghetto
good
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>>335024019
I'm guessing you also beat Old King Allant by sitting at his fog gate and shooting arrows at him too.
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>>335023246
just upgrade any shield to +4, even the Grass Crescent Shield blocks pretty well
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>>335015819
It's managable if you don't suck. Did the fight with a claymore and washing pole for riposting when his poise broke and no phantoms. He's the hardest boss in the series but it shouldn't take you more than 10 or 15 tries.
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>>335024994
How useful is Iron Flesh in this game?
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>>335024343
>not gassing him for half an hour
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>>335025031
I don't know. I attuned it once and never actually tried using it. Probably really good with strength weapons, I had ~45% resistance to everything with it equipped and that was with the blood ring and shitty armor.
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>>335021128
did you just call me good you fag?
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>>335015819
Summoning 3 phantoms gimps you severely. More than 1 phantom and it becomes almost impossible to stagger him and he gains a ton of HP. It's not as hard as solo obviously but never summon more than 1 phantom for him if you're a fag who summons for hard fights, with 2 people you can stun him 4-6 times in the fight, with 3 or 4 you'll be lucky to stun him once.
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>>335015640
>whoops my ass more than any other boss
>switch to a straight sword and beat him in two tries


He is hard but most of my trouble came from not having a opening to get some hits in. Really is a roll test, i dont know maybe great shields can tank him though havent used one yet.
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>>335024994
I found O&S harder than nameless king

though once you know how to do shit in DaS1 you can do insane damage trivialising most fights
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>>335022242
It's a cool thing, but when throughout the game only about 5 of these manifestations explicitly show themselves... especially after the first boss being one of them, the others just being the same enemy copy pasted to a few different places, it feels like they were trying to do something cool with the story, but then they decided to do something else with the main story and just keep them in there because reasons.

I didn't link the red eyed enemies or the vengeance skeletons to the same theme.

>>335022832
> Maybe I've been missing cues.

This is one of the major reasons I'm happy to do a second playthrough. I want to look closely to see if the cues are actually there and I'm missing them, or if it really is just obscure design.
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>>335025303
O&S are incredibly easy if you're not braindead and realize the pillars block Smough's charge.
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>>335025298
There's a lightning block shield along with crest/dragon crest now that makes him a lot easier
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>>335025359
and once you realize you can block all their attacks, including most of Smough's
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>>335025359
There's just a lot of dumb shit in the fight, like ornstein stabbing you through smough, smough's hammer being a huge box that pushes ornstein around, ornstein blinking about if he doesn't have a clear path to charge at you etc
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killed him solo after i stopped being a bitch and ran between his birds legs and faced him head-on.
I suggest you git good OP.
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>stagger and visceral him
>he gets back up and gets staggered instantly
>cheesed boss to death
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>>335015640
IF I summon my friend who is lot more leveled than me, does it affect invader levels too or does it just scale what level host is?
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>>335021281
I've summoned people for almost every boss without even bothering to check if the boss is hard or not.

I don't find it satisfying to do it solo (although I have no problem doing it solo) but I enjoy the co-op and invasion aspects more than the solo aspect.

I did complete dark souls 1 at sl1 just so I could become a dickwraith and kill low-levels at the undead burg. These days I just can't be assed to do shit like that anymore.
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>>335025289
Wrong. Stagger is not affected by number of phantoms at all, only HP. More people there is, more esy it is to make him switch attention and heal up.
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>>335025439
Sure if you use a shield. Only shitters do that though.
>>335025470
Why the fuck are you putting anything but a pillar between you and Smough? Why the fuck are you letting the two of them group up without running away across to a different pillar to lure Ornstein into a 1v1 while Smough slowly charges at the pillar? Why are you fooled by Ornstein blinking around when there's a good second or two between charges and he has to stop and turn to face the direction he charges? Why aren't you rolling out of the way of his charge or putting a pillar between the two of you?

It's not a hard fight at all if you've learned that the environment is the most important factor in a fight like the game just spent 10-20 hours drilling into you.
>>335025625
Stagger is definitely affected by the number of phantoms. Summon two phantoms for Yorhm and it will take more than one hit from Storm Ruler to stun him.
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>>335016360
Ninja Tune/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpMC2_SCY7w
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I'm up to the Demon Caves now and so far the game and all bosses have been a cakewalk.

When does the game get "really difficult", which I keep hearing people complain about?

I play offline all the time
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>>335025692
Yeah I'm just talking about my first experiences with the fight
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>>335025774
Depends what you define as difficult

DaS3 is pretty fair
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>>335025774
The people complaining about the game being "unfair and way too hard ;_;" actually mean "I can't steamroll everything in PvE with a strength weapon and heavy armor and turtle behind a greatshield" or "I can't 1-3 shot literally everything in the game with magic"
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How the hell do people have so much trouble with Nameless King, and the fucking first phase? The Dragon almost constantly keeps its head down at melee range, you can separately target the head and if you attack the head enough the Dragon even falls back, allowing you to perform a riposte-like grab attack and deal massive damage to it.

As long as you stay near the head it's easy. Especially when it starts charging the fire breath attack just go to the head's either side and you can land free hits. Only attacks harder to dodge are when it takes off and tries to slap you with its wings which can catch you off guard or Nameless King attacking with his spear from atop the Dragon.

The second phase is surely harder, but it practically works the same way as any other humanoid boss. Just learn proper dodge timing and remember that his weapon buff also summons a lightning bolt from the sky once it's done. Champion Gundyr and Pontiff are much more aggressive / have longer melee weapon range than the Nameless King.
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>>335025848
One of the best things about DaS3 is that it doesn't have bullshit like Ancient Dragon or Bed of Chaos. I thought the wyvern was going to be like that, but luckily it was more like the Dragon God.
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>>335016360
What is that Skilled infusion?
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>>335025995
Gundyr is way more predictable than Nameless King and so is Pontiff, and both can be parried. It took me 10 tries to kill Nameless but I parried Pontiff to death on my first attempt.
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>>335025995
>As long as you stay near the head it's easy.
If you actually read anyones posts instead of trying to be yet another "le I beat them all on my first try git gud xD" guy, you would know that the only reason anyone has trouble is because the camera freaks the fuck out because you can only lock on to their heads, and no the center of his body, so every time they move you get completely disoriented
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>>335026078
It was just the infusion that gave me the biggest bonus for my STR and DEX, apparently I need to swap it out for a different one though
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>>335025995
People are upset at the first phase because they don't understand the concept of manual camera control and must be locked on at all times to function. It's why people think the Lothric bros. fight is unfair.
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>>335025774
When you get all the lords of cinders to their thrones bosses will get a lot harder, especially the optional ones.
And even before that some levels like Irithyll Dungeon will give you PTSD.
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>>335025774
Think of it as From's final test.

If you studied the earlier games, you'll do fine and nothing will be overly difficult.

If you didn't, you're in for a shitty time exploring the tutorial graveyard. There's a reason the reviewer copies have shit with 3-4 times less hp.
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>>335025774
>play the bloodborne dlc before ds3
>struggled vs maria and orphan, but eventually beat them
>ds3 feels really easy after the hard as balls bloodborne dlc
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>>335015640
I killed him solo on my third try, try not sucking at the game shithead
Tip: never block his attacks
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>>335025570
Your friend will scale down to your level.

I set up a password with a friend of mine to help him deal with those two exiled on the stairs, and my health was like 1/4th of what it normally was, and I was doing shit for damage. I sincerely regretted setting myself up with some shitty loadout. I was trying not to steam roll it for him and make it too easy, but I almost ended up dying because my stats were all so low
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>>335026034
AKA a garbage, non-boss puzzle.

Ancient Dragon was still a boss, even if he was a bad and far too easy one.
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>>335026156
I've never seen it before. Are you playing in a non-English language or is there something I'm missing?
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>>335026301
A puzzle is better than whacking Ancient Dragon's toe for six months.
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>coming into a souls thread just to say "wow you suck, I had no trouble at all! You just need to get better, have you tried attacking him and not getting attacked?"
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>>335026248
The DS3 DLC is where we'll get some bosses that actually rape us for hours.
Hoping for ones at least as hard as Soul of Cinder and Namless King.
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How do I beat Old Demon King as a pyromancer when he resists my main source of damage?
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>>335026417
Dark pyromancies.
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>>335026417
Don't use fire
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>>335026417
Equip a weapon and start plinking him one hit/roll away at a time.

You shouldn't even have to ask this shit.
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>>335026372
DS3 is the least difficult and least bullshit out of all the Soulsborne games.
If you're not new to the series it won't feel difficult.
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>>335026417
Also, how do I beat brock when the only pokemon I've trained isn't effective against rock types?
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>>335026569
>Also, how do I beat brock when the only pokemon I've trained isn't effective against rock types?

You just use scratch over and over.
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>>335026548
I'm well aware, but my point is that there are hundreds of these posts every souls thread.
Its just a waste of a post and adds nothing to the conversation.

Its not like anyone is impressed, no one really cares at all, its just killing the thread faster. Instead of saying "Lol git gudder then noob, I beat him on my first try in under 2 minutes" they should be saying "well, I beat him pretty easily and all I did was X, maybe change up how you're approaching it?"

Instead of just hopping into the thread to be the 90th person to act as if they're some sort of hot shit for beating a boss in their 4th souls game, try and add some content to the thread, spark some discussion, help some people out.

Git Gud is a shit meme because it makes Souls threads fucking shit, it kills 90% of the talk about game mechanics because as soon as someone says their having issues with something he just gets bombarded with replies along the lines of "have you tried not being bad?"
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>>335018586
The dragon is really fun, though. The only issue is if they decide to fly up and breath fire, otherwise the only real danger is the camera. The moment they decide to land the dragon and start breathing fire in a stream, it's a pretty much guaranteed 2k+ damage with a +10 weapon followed by a critical.
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>>335015640
I beat him solo. His second form is a fucking joke. You can stun lock his second form then he takes a knee and you can just keep on comboing.
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>>335026248
Double crocodogs was way harder than double shark giants
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>>335027229
>Aggro gaping vaginadogs
>run back to ladder
>climb halfway up ladder
>when both vaginadogs are under you, drop down from ladder and use a plunging attack
>climb back up ladder while they're stunned
>repeat plunging attack until both are dead

This is how I beat them anyway, it was stupid easy
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>>335027229
I tried beating them both at once and almost did it but eventually I just said fuck it and shot an arrow at one from a distance. Very easy that way. The whale monsters were way harder one on one.
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As someone who's not played any of the Dark/demon Souls game is it worth it to buy DS3? Or should I start with one of the other games.
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>>335021281
Saved before I fought him. Solo'd him in one go with a sliver of health left as I killed him. Felt so good.

Reloaded the other day to get the Betrayal ending and managed not to die again. Never shield, just roll and punish, roll and punish.

I think monster hunters shitty roll invincibility made me good at this game before I started.
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>>335027405
at least play das1 first, skip 2 unless you want to appreciate 3 even more
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>>335027405

Play DeS and DaS

DaS2 is optional
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>>335015819
beat him on my fourth try, solo like the rest of the bosses.
Had more trouble with the first phase, the lack of terrain made it hard to gauge distance.

Stop being a deluded faggot, you're just shit
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Don't forget everyone. If you get invaded by, invade, or summon a cheater you will be banned for cheating as well!
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I'm convinced that people whom use the salt meme are below the age of 18.
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>>335027229
>>335027315
You know you can just use a bow and aggro one of them at a time, right?

>>335027405
They're all good games so you should give each of them a try. Release order is the best order. While the story may not be the main point of games, you won't get the same type of feeling from DaS3 or understand some of the last parts without having played the previous games.

Demon's Souls - Only on PS3. Plot wise unrelated to other games, but start of From Software's "Souls-like" games and later games have some small cameos. I'd recommend giving it a spin as well.
Dark Souls 1 - The start of Dark series. Do not skip. The PC port is the best version as long as you remember to apply DSfix fan patch. Remember to get Prepare to Die Edition as it includes the DLC.
Dark Souls 2 - Not that very plot relevant for DaS3, and level / boss design wise it's not as good as DeS, or DaS1 and 3. Again there's some cameo items in DaS3, though the future DLC of DaS3 could also introduce some plot elements from 2. Gameplay mechanics wise it has some improvements over DaS1, but also some retarded decisions like tying i-frames to a fucking stat. PC port is the best version and doesn't require fan patches. Remember to get Scholar of the First Sin Edition as it includes all the DLC.
Dark Souls 3 - Finisher to Dark Souls series, plot wise takes much from the first game and has the most refined core gameplay mechanics of the bunch. PC port is the best version as long as you remember to set Lightning in Video Options to Low, because otherwise some people (but not everyone) have otherwise been experiencing crashes and as far as I know the devs haven't patched it yet.

At the very least play DaS1 before DaS3.
Haven't played BB since I don't have a PS4, but I assume it's also good, though plot wise it's most likely unrelated to DeS and DaS series. Release order wise it's between DaS2 and DaS3.
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>>335015640
I'm planning to buy Dark Souls 3 for PS4 when they release a game of the year edition.
I'm not interested in online gaming and also don't want to pay for it.

So is it really impossible to beat a boss solo and they force you to pay for help?
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>>335028171
No, OP is a huge scrub.
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>>335028171
Of course not. I beat the boss by myself, despite it taking a few goes at him. Every boss is beatable in the Dark Souls games, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Nameless King is just one of the more genuinely skill-requiring bosses in the game compared to others.
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>>335028317
>>335028372
Thanks guys
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>>335028171
No boss in ever souls game needs a summon, even if its a 3v1.
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>>335026835
Because someone that thinks X is easy and try to tell someone far worse than them how to beat the boss is not easy.

Really. I told my friend to keep rolling into the first boss of DS3 and hitting him in the ass during his first stage but he kept dying during the first stage.

What am I supposed to tell him, in detail, on how to beat it?
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>>335027509
DS3 has more gameplay elenents from DS2 than from DS1.
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>>335026548
Straight bullshit. I play the games since DeS, and in comparison this game has more aggressive enemies and less predictable bosses with less cheese strats. Shields are also less useful. It's not a good point of entry at all.
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>>335028698
It has a nice blend.
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>>335026764
Don't make fun of Jones you shit, he's making it work.
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>>335026548
>DS3 is the least difficult and least bullshit out of all the Soulsborne games.

Flat out wrong, DeS and DaS1 are both significantly easier and much better entries into the series.
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IS there any point in buying multiple copies of the same spell in this game?
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>>335028909
DeS is easier for sure but DS1 unless you stack poise and know exactly in what rough order to do the areas can turn into the hardest.
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>>335028949
Seems that there isn't, I was hoping it would reduce FP cost if you had 2 copies of the same spell attuned.
Maybe they'll do that to buff magic in a patch.
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>>335028976
Only literal retards go into skeleton bay at the beginning and not think "wait this is hard as fuck maybe I'll come back here later"

The only difficult boss in (non-dlc) 1 is O&S
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>>335026103
Camera going out of control only happens if you go under him, in which case you are in wrong place or sometimes when he flies up, in which case you have plenty of time to take off lock on and look around manually.
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>>335028762
>Straight bullshit. I play the games since DeS, and in comparison this game has more aggressive enemies and less predictable bosses with less cheese strats. Shields are also less useful. It's not a good point of entry at all.

Might feel strange if you never played Bloodborne, sure. But DS3 is still the easiest Souls game. You can make direct comparisons and you'll find that DS3 is the least frustrating every single time.
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>>335029248
I found 3 to be less frustrating but more challenging
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>>335026103

>he uses lock on for giant bosses

AHAHHAHAAHAH

Any boss that is 3x larger than you, you don't use lock on. 5th game in the series and you havent figured that out yet?
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>>335022562
Iv had it where I used all my estus getting to the boss early game. Mostly because I didn't know there was a boss. I summoned phantoms and showed them I was empty by trying to chug estus. One guy threw a VERY GOOD stone at me and then we went in. It happens, but yeah if you summon and hang back instead of at least trying to fight then you deserve to get fucked. The only excuse is if its a VERY hard boss thats known to be hard as fuck. I hate trying to help as a sunbro and having the host die because he got greedy instead of letting me do the work.
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>>335015640
>tfw I just beat him solo
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Should I just leave Vitality untouched
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>>335029794
Unless you have a very specific set of armour you wanna wear, yeah leave it at base
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>>335029794
I'd say put some points in it, it's nice to be able to have two weapons equipped (the element of surprise helps a lot in pvp) alongside whatever armor you like without relying on havels ring.
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>>335029794
Vitality is useful if you get hit a lot. If you dodge everything then you don't need armor, but if you get hit a bunch then higher defence is very useful.
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I am at nameless king with a +5 weapon and sl80, any reason I am seeing fuck all summons?
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Is it bad if the final boss gave me significantly more trouble than any other boss in the game including nameless king? i dont know what it was but he just kept on whooping me. his attacks are so obvious and dodgeable but i kept shitting the bed
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>it's another "let's trigger dark soulsfags" episode
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>>335015640
I killed him on my second try. Just use the lightning resist ring and shield if you suck that hard. His moves are so easily telegraphed, rolling out the way was easy as fuck.
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>>335017915
There's a bonfire every two feet to compensate.
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>>335028676
If you don't want to say something worthwhile, then don't say anything. Easy.
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>>335030773
Except I just did. You can't make a blind man see.

It's down to personal skill as well. You can write perfect and detailed guides on how to beat all of these games but people would still die repeatedly, especially the worse players.
So after a certain point there really really is nothing to add beyond "git gud", which really is just plain truth. You need to get better at the game. There's nothing wrong with the strategy and tactics people give, but the actual player being bad.
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>>335030327
Maybe upgrade more?
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>>335030773
>>335031046
I told my sister to try to learn the animations so she knows when to dodge in BB/DS and when there's an opening to attack. Sometimes people just do not know about simple concepts like these.
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>>335031046
Just because "there's nothing wrong with the strategy and tactics people give" doesn't mean it's worthwhile >.<

As you say, if a person lacks the skill, then it's not worthwhile to give them highly detailed guidance.

If you want to help someone then you have to cater your teaching method to their skill level. You can't just drop a twelvie into university level mathematics. You have to lead them along, and whilst "git gud" is often a solid summary of what is really required, it isn't exactly helpful for most people.
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>>335031576
>If you want to help someone then you have to cater your teaching method to their skill level.

Said teaching method is literally to get better at the game. The problem isn't knowledge.
If the key to beating a boss is to parry and the player simply sucks ass at parrying, how are you to teach said player to parry? All they can do is keep playing against the boss until they can parry. You can't adapt your teachings to this.

Comparing DS to math is retarded. Math is an incremental study. You start with a solid knowldedge foundation and then just build on it. There is no mechanical skill involved.
Comparing it to a martial art would make more sense. You can't simply give someone the perfect strats to beat an opponent, they also have to have the skill to use said knowledge. Otherwise they will have to keep practicing until they "get good" enough to apply said knowledge.

Some people are simply too shit at the game. No advice would be useful. For these people there are summons (but some people are still so terrible that they still die when other players do the work for them).
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>>335030540
THE FIRE
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How do you summon NPCs like Sword Master to fight bosses? I beat him at the start and still had to struggle against bosses like a shitter.
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>>335030413
I thought nameless king was the final boss so I was shitting my pants since I'm probably close to the end (reached the top of the archives).
Is it an optional boss then?
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>>335032745
Their summon signs are usually down near the boss if you have met the right conditions
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>>335032745
They show up in pre-set places. Sword Master can only be summoned for Champion Gundyr when you're embered.
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>>335032098
>Comparing X to Y is retarded

Oh dear, and here I was forgetting this was 4chan.

At any rate, I propose that comparing learning a games combat system, and learning mathematics, is not "retarded".

The scale of the information, skill and aptitude is perhaps different, with mathematics taking years and the game taking maybe only weeks, but the principles are the same.

You start off, not a clue in the world, maybe you're coming into this game after mostly being a call of duty kind of guy, or for maths, you might be coming into algebra after previously only being kind of alright at memorising times-tables.

Either way, you start off in a state of:
>WTF IS GOING ON!
>THIS IS SCARY!
>I WANT OUT!

at least, the type of person who really needs help with this kind of thing probably has that kind of mindset.

So you start off with the basics, you then start putting those pieces together, and as you discover (or are shown) new mechanics, you eventually get past the initial "fuck this I'm out" phase. Or you quit because the only advice you could find was
>"git gud"
or
>"well I didn't have trouble learning differentiation, so it shouldn't be so difficult for you"

Oh look at that, I compared apples and oranges again. Such a bad habit of mine...
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>>335016921
Just run like hell and you won't get hit. The real problem are the two giant magic orbs he fires off immediately after the arrow rain is over.
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>>335029248
I actually found BB easier because of the rally system, parries and you being fast as fuck.
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>>335032794
Nameless king and his whole area is optional but you are real close to the end you only have two mandatory bosses left
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