![latest[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/z7hQe3a.png "latest[2].png")
So which one is it?
The sniper rifle, the GEP gun, or the crossbow?
I'll "stick" with the prod.
I can't go back to DX after HR. Just feels way too clunky.
GEP gun, find a crossbow a few yards away, and theres a man with a sniper in an alley, bam, you got all three right off the bat
I'll take the GEP gun for a silent takedown.
>>335012802
This is how I do it as well. Wasn't the next GEP gun several hours of gameplay away?
>>335012903
But you hardly get any ammo for the GEP gun in the first few levels.
The crossbow is worth it, just for the extra ammo it gives you.
>>335014302
Crossbow feels almost useless, there's no way to get a good instant knockout and they have enough time to either trip an alarm, or draw attention of OTHER people who can trip alarms
>>335012824
The GEP gun is the most silent way to eliminate Manderley
>>335012517
I'll take the GEP Gun... for those robots, of course, Paul. You understand.
>>335014942
Headshot them.
the daughter
>>335015816
This.
>>335015615
I always use an explosive crate for the robot, because I'm a sneaky cunt.
>>335015993
I'm actually planning to use it on thepeople
Explosive crates are fun, too!
>>335012764
HR is too yellow.
>>335012517
Is that Roman Reigns?
>>335016091
B-But muh pacifism.
The goals of the NSF are noble, and most of them are normal guys like you and me.
>>335015194
What's that?
>>335012517
GEP gun as always
No doors nor robots shall bar my path.
>>335016156
I like the yellow. DX is very blue. HR is very yellow. it adds to the contrast of the two eras
>>335016156
The only reason I haven't bought the director's cunt is because I enjoy the pissfilter more than I hate the bossfights
>>335016423
DC is buggier, the improved bossfights aren't all that good Missing Link really screws up the pacing
>>335016546
Missing Link was a mistake.
>>335016546
They patched so many bugs now, boss fights are also easier as a hacker/social/sneaker.
>>335012903
Next GEP is in Lebedev Airfield.
>>335014302
There is plenty of ammo.
>>335012707
Prod with the prod
Just in case though, we're police.
>>335012764
your loss
>playing lethal
what would paul think
>"I can't speak for command, but I'm gonna clean the place out"
What did he mean by this?
I love DeusEx threads so much
Why even give me options if you don't want me to use them?
>>335012517
Maybe you should get a job.
>>335016284
I have opened the mayor. When the power drops, go in, and go in, and GO IN like the US marshalls, and his three daughters, and we lose the vaccine.
>>335021370
Get PILLS against my orders! Get going!
>>335020823
Okay, where?
>>335012517
>JC the GEP gun might be-
PAUL.
I choose LAMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPgZD4S50z4
>>335016587
I really like Missing Link, but it should have been separated from the main story time-wise and not inserted in the middle of it. The series would have only gained if it took place between HR and MD. And there's not much that needs to be changed even, since Adam has no contact with the outside world for the whole mission
>>335014942
>>335016156
>>335016250
>>335016423
>>335016546
>>335016587
>>335019581
>>335023609
>ITT: Flatlander Women.
>>335023609
what happens in missing link and why does everyone hate it?
Welcome to the PROD
PROD with the PROD
>>335024368
It's not what happens there that bothers people. It just interrupts the flow of story progression (which is pretty time sensitive) to deal with a completely unrelated plot
I should really play Deus Ex one day.
>>335024368
You know the final boss with the three women in the supercomputer?
Missing Link explains where that came from.
The Director's Cut version of Human Revolution wedges it in between leaving Hengsha and reaching the lab with the missing scientists, so it's really awkward.
>>335012517
No regrets, my dear. As Ariadne told Theseus before he entered the Minotaur’s labyrinth: Always the GEP gun.. never sniper or crossbow.
>>335024602
I thought it was great. That shit is how you do stealth boss fights.
honestly I didn't even know it was DLC until I started reading up about it post-game.
>>335014942
gas grenate + tranq dart is an instant knockout. It's good for non-lethal, but it's not particularly god for being stealthy.
>>335024602
>>335024746
I agree that ML was great by itself. Personally, I put it together with Minerva's Den as one of the best DLCs ever made. Length, story, new environments (not recycled assets), multiple paths, third option.
But I played it as a standalone long after my first HR playthough. It doesn't really work well with the pacing of the game in the Director's Cut.
>>335024602
>to deal with a completely unrelated plot
It actually prepare the ground for MD, introducing Interpol and and the Juggernaut collective
>>335015993
>Explosiv create
>sneaky
Pick one
>>335025318
With silent run augmentation it can be.
>>335024165
Do you know how much of a mess you made, you laputan machine!
>>335025375
You silenc explosive crates from range?
>>335025515
if no one is alive to hear an explosion, does it make a sound?
>>335012517
Memes aside, always take the GEP, even if you're doing stealth. All the enemies on that level can be taken out with the baton, crossbow hits are almost never KO. It takes a longer to get the GEP if you don't get it here.
>>335025515
>Pick up boom crate
>Turn on silent run
>Run to corner and throw it into group of enemies
>Run off silently to a dark corner while crate is still in the air, giggling like a schoolgirl the whole time
>Crouch and hide for a bit to avoid any repercussions
I don't understand how that's not stealthy m8e.
Played through it for the first time a couple months ago, I did a non-lethal stealth playthrough on Realistic. I still took the GEP gun and it really helped with turrets and robots.
>>335012764
Good thing it's better in every regard to make up for that
Crossbow for them long rage takedowns.
>>335012517
>not playing the invisible war
electronic OLD MEN
>>335030212
Within the week, there will be old men... running the world.
>>335030758
No
Within six months
>>335017684
wait
you fucking tell me
right
now
where is that gep in lebedev
UNATCO?
>>335031437
U
UNATCO?
>>335023347
That will be your butt
>>335031501
no
s a v a g e
Why contain it?
S'cool.
Has anyway me here used the ENB for Human Revolution? Videos make it look way way better than vanilla, but maybe I'm imagining thing.
>>335019581
>pop head out of trap door
>Anna Navarre opens fire on terrorists
>saves the terrorist leader
>everyone calls you a murderer
>>335016156
I didn't actually realize it until i played on a different TV for some reason, but there is a fucking lot of yellow in HR
That has to be intentional, right?
What subliminal effect does yellow have on our minds?
Pussy cats... two-fifty
I use crossbow for most of the game, but you can get one closeby anyway, Go for GEP
>>335012517
GEP me all day.
>>335031858
I'll take a vial of people.
>>335031783
The effect only starts when Jensen activates his sunglasses augment after walking back into sarif HQ.
The prologue isn't pissfiltered.
>>335012517
>take the GEP gun
>see the UNATCO robot
>think it is an NSF robot
>blow it up
>>335012517
GEP Gun even if just for saving lockpicks
>>335012764
I feel bad for you, but when you play it for a while it actually has better controls, but I guess fags like you miss wallhuging where you can see over walls while remaining invisible instead of leaning and 5yd instant-KO move instead of actually sneaking up to enemy and hit him from behind before he turns around
>>335016156
The Black/Gold palette symbolizes the Danger/Promise of the augmented future :^)
>>335031000
Why contain it?..... S'cool
>>335032042
fair, but there probably is a reason they chose yellow rather than a different color, isn't there?
>>335031657
this is pretty rad. might reinstall just to dick around with this.
>>335012517
Now that the dust has settled...
http://www.strawpoll.me/10008012
>>335032405
wots enb
>>335012517
I like to pick 'em off from a distance.
>prequel has more advanced technology than the original
>>335012517
>There are people on this board playing Deus Ex without GMDX v8 right now
>>335018114
I like to pick my nose.
>>335031413
it's in one of the observation towers m8.
>>335032765
It's not more advanced, it just seems that way because of the updated graphics. Makes a huge difference.
Look at the Star Wars prequels, you'd think they have a lot more advanced technology just because the graphics look a lot better. Same thing here.
>>335032803
Revision is better.
>>335032513
>>335032045
Aaaaaahahaha
Git gud son.
>>335033079
JC didn't have elbow blades..
>>335032897
REINSTALLING
>>335033101
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, not even close, prettier graphics that runs like shit on most hardware, smaller unnecesarilly butchered maps, division into 'chapters' and infinitely inferior gameplay/balance compared to GMDX, Revision is middle step between console version
>>335032765
> the albeit pitiful endings of HR explain that augs become illegal for civilians and are primarily used by the military which would
include UNATCO
>Nano augs have become a thing by the time of DX leading to a stigma of "mechs"
It makes sense
>>335032372
>"The pace of technological development is reflected visually by a Renaissance theme. Characters who support the advances of human augmentation dress themselves and decorate their homes in reinterpreted late-mediaeval Italian style, and the game as a whole has a sepia-tinted color palette reminiscent of historic manuscripts. In contrast, characters who oppose augmentation wear clothing that is more or less current-day."
We're 100% BLACK
>>335012764
I can't go back to HR after trying it once.
>>335012517
you can find xbow and rifle in the same level plus gep saves you plenty of lockpicks and multitools until you leveled them a bit
>>335033326
Not even talking about the augs and shit. Just walking around in the city you can see all this stuff that looks way more advanced. The computers, the cars, the subway station, seriously.
>>335033292
Good. Don't be a sissy and go for the rifle or crossbow, they're easily gotten in the game on many occasions.
Unless of course, you're doing a non lethal playthrough or something, which isn't as good as it sounds; especially after you get the Dragon tooth sword.
Also
>"I speel my drink!"
>>335033192
He didn't need them. Elbow blades are possible because Jensen's arms are both totally mechanical, which is already an inferior technology to the nanites. JC never needs to replace his entire arm with a metal one because he has virtually all the benefits of one still in his natural arm.
>>335024165
I am not a machi
the nameless mod was great
but maybe im biased because it's the only one voice acted, whose maps aren't shit and that makes exploring worth
>>335033474
>Get Master Electronics as I enter France Catacombs
>Doors requiring 2-3 Lockpicks everywhere in France
>Barely any Multitools required
Kill me now, though I guess the fact that my latest save became corrupted might give me the possibility of getting Lockpicking instead.
>>335033476
Again it's the graphics. HR is probably one of the most immersive games to come out in recent history and an insane amount of detail was put into world-building. The earlier games were limited by the technology of that time and could never have hoped to match the immersion that HR could bring to the table.
If they remade all the earlier games with HR's engine, it'd be a much different story.
>>335033457
Me too.
>>335033192
jc didn't have all his body minus brain and few other parts replaced
>>335033476
That's due to improved technology in our world, not in Deus Ex.
>>335031858
Bitch, I ain't goin back to jail.
>>335034059
What does that have to do with a change in aesthetic? The kind of cars and buildings and subways and shit in the original DX were a lot closer to our world. Why do they look more futuristic in HR when it's supposed to take place before the original?
>>335033991
the trick is realizing leveling weapons isn't worth so you have more points in other shit and that master level of any skill has insanely bad cost/benefit ratio so once you hit advanced or whatever second to last tier was called you can move on to some other skill
>>335034017
I just finished HR again for like the fourth time and I still can't love it. I really liked DE 2 because I thought some of the locations were neat, but I'm playing through DE 1 again and it just feels so much better than the others. More depth to the story by far, more interesting characters, more intense feel. The HR story is so weak and Alex is a boring character that is pretty cliche with his stupid haircut and wanna-be tough guy lines that just come across cringeworthy. JC was such a pimp and I'd always be looking forward to what he had to say because the script was so more better, I thought.
>>335034385
Are you deliberately ignoring >>335033079 and >>335034017 ?
Literally everything you're describing can be attributed to better video game graphics we have today as compared to when the original DX came out.
>>335034549
Much*
>>335034397
I haven't leveled up anything in Weapons, I realized the first Pistol one was free if you removed a point from there.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2NOaB6j.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>335033991
>Not having master level low-tech weapons and combat strength maxed out by that point
I feel sorry for you anon, most non-reinforced doors with less than INF strength can either be bashed down or blown up with the GEP
>mfw finishing the game with full lockpicks and multitools.
>>335012517
Paul, I....I...
I Thought you were a GEP gun
>>335034627
>Are you deliberately ignoring >>335033079 and >>335034017 ?
Yes, anon. You don't know the difference between graphics and aesthetic and I simply don't feel like dealing with it right now.
>>335033953
i liked that you could play both "routes" and the characters/factions are fleshed out instead of having generic bad/good guys
except lamas and the other cult, that was just plain meme fanservice
>>335035010
that's horrible
>>335035010
I would not have known in a million years that the Deus Ex logo was supposed to be a D and an E without someone pointing it out for me.
>>335034723
It can be argued that in HR it's before shit's break loose, the world is before war so it doesn't look that shitty (but still is shitty, look at detroit) but in DX there's war practically everywhere and resources are probably getting rare so that's why you have old regular boring hospital or bar in hells kitchen instead of neon and flashy Hive Clubs and LIMB clinics that probably require far more electricity and other resources to operate, things in DX are going 'retro' because it's more cost effective and you can argue with this even with augs since you no longer have shit like icarus landing system and depend more on your skills(>>335032803), the upside is you don't need constant repairs and tuneups like Hermann and most importantly, you pass as human so you're useful for other missions than genociding everything, the color theme also implies this, Black/Gold= Golden Age, Rich people,flashy cities but some corruption, Black/Blue= no money, blue mood, depression, black, even more corruption
>>335012764
>go back
>clunky
Too bad for you only one of those actually really merits replaying several times to play differently, make different choices, take alternate routes, use different augs and discover secrets.
I like to pick my nose
So am I just doing something wrong or is HR primarily a stealth game?
>>335023392
Majestic 12
>>335034723
And you don't seem to understand that graphical limitations prevent the original DX from having the same level of world-building detail and immersion, or what you call aesthetic.
You say things in HR look more hi-tech, more advanced, even though it's the prequel. And you're right, they DO look more hi-tech and advanced, because the technology to actually make things look that way in video games has evolved majorly since the original DX came out.
We're talking about a video game; the limits of the graphics are directly tied to the kind of aesthetic a game can have or how well the game can display a particular kind of aesthetic. Hang your fedora somewhere else.
>>335035419
I do it out of necessity.
>>335035484
Maybe you should join Majestic 12 in a body bag.
>>335033782
i kno 1 soldier has the rifle when you start. and you can get a bow anywhere. gep is the only real starter just for utility
>>335028582
It wasn't THAT bad, but holy shit
>universal ammo
>loading screens
>small levels
>more loading screens
Nah.
>>335031580
Manderly raps.
>>335035484
>>335035585
I have some good news for both of you
>>335035482
Depends on how you built your character.
>>335035497
>the same level of world-building detail and immersion, or what you call aesthetic.
I don't think graphical limitations were what kept cars in the original Deus Ex from looking futuristic, and there are plenty of games that came before Deus Ex that did just fine making a futuristic aesthetic without the advancements of today. I don't know if you ever played Super Metroid but that power suit looked pretty futuristic. I don't know if you ever played either of the System Shock games but shit looked pretty futuristic in those as well.
The original Deus Ex had an aesthetic that was closer to the real world by choice, not because they couldn't make it look futuristic.
>>335035790
Tried to focus on combat. I'm not terribly far in the game, last time I played I killed what I think was the first boss, but it just seems to me like all the build options are much more in favor of sneaking around than in direct confrontation, which is often how I worked in the original.
![Luther[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ch7ZniA.png "Luther[1].png")
>>335012517
>>335012764
I played the original for the first time after HR. No regrets. Although, the first couple of hours were really rough, after that I started enjoying the game immensely.
>>335016156
>>335016156
I'm glad the glowing object are gone in MD.
>>335035817
All I'm saying is that when you compare HR to the original and start bringing in aesthetics, you are also necessarily discussing the graphical limitations and differences present when each game was created.
I firmly believe that if they did a HR-engine remaster of the originals, it'd look far more futuristic by comparison.
>>335036795
>he doesn't play on the hardest difficulty
>>335035817
Do you think the Star Wars prequels have a more futuristic aesthetic?
And if so, what if I told you it's because they had access to real and far more advanced CGI than the originals?
Same principle.
>>335036816
And all I'm saying is that having graphical limitations doesn't stop someone from achieving a futuristic aesthetic, and quite frankly it truly baffles me that you've chalked the entire thing up to graphics when there are thousands of games that pull off a much more futuristic look than Deus Ex with less advanced graphics. It was very clear that Deus Ex was meant to have an aesthetic that was similar to the real world but with some advanced technology here and there, which makes it silly that Human Revolution would have an aesthetic that belongs far past the original game.
Here's an image from Super Metroid. Inferior graphics, but you can clearly see that Samus' armor and starship are that of a civilization far ahead of ours in technology. Do you understand now?
>>335037385
Here's another example. Released two years prior, F-Zero X had hovering cars that race in tracks suspended above cities and other landscapes. Clearly the technology at the time was not limiting of the aesthetic at all.
>>335024785
>chocking on poison gas
>add in a poison dart
>non-lethal
if the enemy doesnt move ever again i wouldnt call it non-lethal
the only non-lethal way is to use only pepper spray and the taser to _temporarily_ stun enemies and all other items merely as distraction
and the ultimate hippie mode is to not cause any property damage
>>335037198
>Do you think the Star Wars prequels have a more futuristic aesthetic?
Not really, no.
Anyone else feel bad for having to kill Navarre and Gunther?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKGpgWNZFbc
>>335038173
Not even a little. They knew what they were doing.
However, I do wish I had skipped out on using Gunther's killphrase and just kicked his ass myself.
>>335035637
going back and playing it, it was a step down from the first DX, but it wasn't a bad game.
>>335038173
If the game let you continue with UNATCO, who would be the bosses instead of Anna, Gunther, and Walton?
Hmm... something's not quite rightOH MY GOD JC A BOMB
>>335038173
>>335038347
I love that at least Anna is flammable. Lit her up and watched her scream.
Though the LAM kills seem to look just as satisfying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImVGXg4_gP4
>>335039000
Why is violence against women this entertaining?
Does she even count as a woman anymore?
>>335038951
I dunno but Paul would be the final boss.
>>335039243
Because she's an antagonist no matter what you do in the game?
>>335038173
>Navarre
No, the story paints her as a sadist with no regard for harm minimisation, or due course of justice/fair trial
>Hermann
Yeah, he seems like a man that once had pride in what he did and protecting his country; now trapped in a downward spiral of anxiety about becoming obsolete in a world where only his performance was his only appreciable asset. After you kill his only reason for hanging onto his increasingly irrelevant existance (his relationship with Anna) all that keeps him alive is his anger and need for vengeance. Genuinely felt sorry for the guy and wished there was a way to leave him alive.
>Skul gun
>>335039368
It seems there was a lot more to Gunther's character than I picked up on.
>>335037734
>wake up inMJ12base
>the NSF you prod with the prod are being tortured to death
feels sad man, DX was some really dystopianrealismcompared to HR
>>335038951
I think the missions would be to assassinate Tracer Tong, and the Illuminati.
In Hong Kong, you'd probably have to at least fight against Gordon Quick and his boys before you can reach Tong.
I don't know how the names of Dowd and Everett will be found without Tong's assistance, but Page will probably find a way, and send you off to Paris. Toby Atanwe would definitely be a boss.
Paul Denton I assume would be a much later enemy, where you would have a brief conversation ("I thought you would have changed your mind by now JC. What a shame"). He would probably have the augmentations for Run speed, Cloak, Ballistic Protection, and Aggressive Defense System.
Either way, it would be a very different game.
>>335012517
STICK WITH THE PROD
PROD WITH THE PROD
>>335039930
>>335039000
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImVGXg4_gP4
>>335012517
>anything other than the gepgun
>other two weapons are found almost immediately before entering the statue
>gepgun doesn't appear until much later in the game
>>335016156
>>335036030
>>335039598
If you read his emails and listen into his conversations, it's pretty evident that he's a complex guy that just wants to prove his worth to his superiors and to society; he has a lot of fears and insecurities and isn't necessarily cunning or intelligent like Anna. His problems are compounded by the fact that the powers that be are frustrated and annoyed by his constant requests to be upgraded makes everything worse for him. Anna, on the other hand, due to her cunning, intelligence and ability to manipulate her superiors gets a free reign to act out her sadistic tendencies without reproach. When she's given the order to kill you, she relishes the chance; whereas Gunther seems to have genuine regret and hesitance that's tipped over the edge by the pure hatred caused by your actions in killing Anna.
All the guy wanted was recognition for his hard work.
>"No, I cannot forgive. No... not the killing of Agent Navarre"
>"I do not make mistakes of that kind"
>"well be sld at flee markets... old gray golems for scareing the children"
>>335041265
Agent Oh-range
>>335041380
Also, another point to make is that his dedication to Anna is almost like that of a dog. Despite her coldness, she has a lot of the elements that he lacks; so he feels like she completes him by compensating for his failings.
When you kill Anna, you kill the last part of him that's keeping him from losing his battle with his failings and that's what drives him to mercilessly hunt you down after the fact.
It still doesn't make me feel any better about killing him, it'd be great if i could have killed him at the subway in battery park so that he wouldn't have to endure the death of Anna; but unfortunately the game doesn't allow it.
>>335041590
Fun fact.
>>335042247
>>335042247
>polymelia
I am unfamiliar.
>>335039368
>Genuinely felt sorry for the guy and wished there was a way to leave him alive.
You don't have to kill him. You can just run away.
>>335042554
>Polymelia (from Greek πολυ- = "many" plus μέλος (plural μέλεα) = "limb") is a birth defect involving limbs (a type of dysmelia), in which the affected individual has more than the usual number of limbs. In humans and most land-dwelling animals, this means having five or more limbs. The extra limb is most commonly shrunken and/or deformed.
>>335042554
>>335043210
Eight legs, seven vaganias.
wouldn't it be great if there was a HD remake of DX with EVEN MORE plot choices and no load times
and a cuter sandra renton model
>>335043320
More like 6 stubs, 2 legs and 7 vaganias
>>335042891
It's an exploit though and likely the same as running out the door at UNATCO instead of fighting Anna (the game still recognises that you killed her.)
I wouldn't really count it though, as there's no way to confirm that he's alive or not if you manage to sneak past him anyway.
>>335043495
did you give her dad the pistol or shoot Jojo yourself?
Protip: What heppens to her at the end depends on that one decision.
>>335025910
>crossbows are almost never KO.git gud
>>335031756
>Decide no god damn it, I am going to arrest this guy by the book
>Knock him out
>Carry him all the way back to HQ
>Everyone thinks I killed him
>As I carry his unconscious body over my shoulder
>>335044148
i shot him, why?
>>335045768
It changes whether she stays in the 'ton or leaves.
>>335046263
noice, ty for info, that's a cool detail
>>335045768
>>335046263
You can actually kill Jojo and ignore the conversation where Sandra leaves. Or you can ignore the entire event between the three. That way, the next time you're in New York (meeting Dowd), she will be sitting in the Underworld Tavern and will not be living with the homeless people later in the petrol station level.
>>335044048
It's not en exploit really. With Anna you have to do something tricky IIRC, with Gunther you just run away, he can't keep up.
