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I just realized why I love Phoenix Wright games so much. There
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I just realized why I love Phoenix Wright games so much.

There isn't a single black guy in the entire series.
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>>335004384
What about that fish guy in the DLC episode of he worst game?
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>>335004384
k
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>>335004384
It's really surprising considering how large the black population of LA is.
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>>335004384
That's a pretty dumb reason to like a game series. Especially one set in Japan
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>>335004456
...Apollo Justice didn't have DLC
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>>335004834
Ooh my """"""god""""" stop saying AJ is the worst game you fricks!

I think AAI is worse though but it's definitely the second worst for me
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>>335004570
>japan
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>>335004552
>only black guy in the series is the best character

Hilarious
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>>335005171
Eat your hamburgers Apollo
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>btfo
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>>335005231
>rapper
>best
A shit taste of epic proportions.
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>>335004384
Zak Gramarye was black.
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>>335004456
Fuck, I just started Dual Destinies...I consider Justice For All to be the worst so far.
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>>335004384
That seems like a pretty stupid reason OP. Besides, the DLC in DD had a black guy and a lot of people liked that case
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>>335005231
He definitely had the best testimony
>>335004552
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I thought Apollo justice was pretty good, people just didn't like change
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>>335008278
It was ok, it definitely could have been done better in some areas, but I still enjoyed it
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>Godot best prosecutor
>Godot best hair
>Godot best taste in clothing
>Godot best gimmick
Just one reason why T&T is the best game
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>>335009518
>Godot's gimmick
Huh?
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>>335009840
Coffee bro
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>>335009518
>best prosecutor
Edgeworth
>best hair
Maybe
>best taste in clothing
MOTHERFUCKING EDGEWORTH, hell, even Phoeniz now has him beat
>best gimmick
What's that, fucking everything up and killing mothers?

Godot a shit
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>>335004384
>>>/pol/
No one gives two shits.
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>>335004384

Wow you're right, I just realized.

Huh.
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>>335008278
The big problem with it is that it feels like a rehash. Apollo is the same character as young Phoenix, Trucy is Maya with a worse character arc, and Gavin is like a mix of Edgeworth (friendly rival to the defense), Franny (young relative of villianous persecuter) and Godot (quirky supet cool guy).
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>>335010467
Trucy and Maya's personalities are completely different.
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>>335004552
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>>335009840
Coffee and all that philosophical bullshit.
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>>335011854
This is basically my only complaint about Marlon. Most of the character changes never really get this drastic, I think he'd have probably been fine just staying scrawny.
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>>335012593
Time to wake up and smell the coffee trite.
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There's this evil insane fuck who's Apollo's grandfather somehow
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>>335014716
Did Magnifi Gramarye have sprites? Or is this fanmade?
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>>335010636
Cute young ditz who makes eccentric observations, is learning a unique occupation and has a troubled family history related to said occupation.

The biggest difference is that Trucy rarely gets made fun of or struggles with anything which just serves to make her less likable.
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>>335015460

Fan made, there aren't exactly a ton of pictures of him
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>>335015512
The biggest difference between them is that Trucy is shrouded in mystery from the moment she is introduced. Another is that she doesn't ever need saving, or at least doesn't require the player to save her (until AA6). Lastly, Trucy is much more reserved compared to Maya.
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T&T=AA>DD>AJ>JFA
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>>335015979
T&T>AA>AAI2>JFA=AJ>DD>AAI
Thought about adding PLvsAA too, but I thought that was more of a Layton game than AA, and I'd honestly have no idea where to put it.
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>>335015979
Sorry to break the circlejerk on this one
AAI2>PLvsAA>DD=T&T=DGS>AJ>AAI>AA=JFA
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>>335016534
>DD that high
>Adding DGS a game most of us cant fucking play.
You bitch
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>>335016534
How did you play dgs?...It is good?
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>>335016673
Hey I liked DD. Honestly I didn't know it was supposed to be in "the bad ones" until I checked /v/ after finishing it.
>>335017097
Just imported a copy and played it with the region free launcher softhack. It's alright, not the best but it has some very cool moments.
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why do all the best characters die or get sent to prison?

fuck this shit
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Should I watch the anime?
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>>335017194
Don't get me wrong. I also liked DD.
In fact I like all of the games and all of them i feel are worth playing. DD just happens to be one of the weaker entries I feel.
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>>335017391
no
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>>335017454
At least we feel the same way about the series, I appreciate your mentality. I also think that all AA games are inherently fun and I will definitely play all of them as they come out. Maybe I was just seduced by DD's surprisingly good way of handling 3D graphics.
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>>335017454
DD is the best, because no possessions
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>>335017391
If you played the games and want something to laugh at how bad it is sure.
If you haven't played the games then no avoid it like the fucking plague.
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>>335015979
AAI2>T&T>AA>JFA>DD>AAI>AJ

If JFA didn't have Farewell, My Turnabout it would be bottom tier trash
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>>335007608
You should play JfA again, anon. There is another case after the circus one.
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>>335018035
Literally Debeste character ever made
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>>335008278
I has the most shit case in the series and an underwhelming finale. The only good thing was the first case, the second is okay.
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>>335008278
>Best first case
>Best girl
>Best prosecutor
>Best Phoenix
>Best villain
>Best OST

Damn, why is Apollo Justice so fucking good?
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>>335018287
>Best prosecutor
>Best villain
I'll give you that the others might be subjective, but if you think the Gavins were the best then your taste is objectively shit. Extreme waste of potential, both of them.
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>>335018287
>>335018372
Gavin as a villain was really well done in the first case but it really was such wasted potential in the last case. It also didn't help that his entire motivation was "I got mad that Phoenix nabbed my client the one time."

Trucy is pretty good tho
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>>335018287
>Best first case
I agree
>Best girl
Good taste
>Best prosecutor
Edgeworth wasn't in AJ anon
>Best villain
Hell no
>Best OST
I agree
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His theme has been stuck in my head for 3 weeks it's so damn good man.
HA HA I DON'T HAVE A SON
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>>335018287
>best OST
My nig, that fucking jazz-inspired soundtrack is GOAT.
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>>335018372
>Best prosecutor
Maybe Edgeworth is better, I give you that. But what are the other options?

>Franziska
Muh reputation
>Godot
Hey Trite, hace you seen how cool I am? *throws coffee mug*
>Blacquill
Literally Sasuke

Klavier is just a nice guy who wants to find the truth. Can't see why he gets all that hate.

>Best villain
Only Manfred and the Mastermind could rival with him for this one. Whether you like it ir not, Kristoph is the most complex and fucked up villain in the entire series.
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>>335019041
>Blackquill
>Literally Sasuke
What?
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>>335019041
>>Blacquill
>Literally Sasuke
Are you retarded? Blackquill was barely a fraction as edgy as his design, the guy was a weaboo britbong who still cracked sarcastic jokes.

I personally think Klavier is the worst prosecutor because he's just a nice guy. He's extremely boring and barely reacts to his brother and band-mate being villains, it never felt like he particularly wanted to be a prosecutor. He's fine as a character, but completely ineffectual as a rival.

>Kristoph is the most complex and fucked up villain in the entire series.
>Complex
I'll give you fucked up since he threw the biggest bitch fit ever over losing a client, but he had build up that came to fucking nothing. In the end he came off as nothing more than a petty loser.
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>best villain
>not Dahlia
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>>335018287
>Best OST
I can't argue that.Apollos corned theme gets me pumped as fuck.
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>>335019198
>>335019347

Having an inmate as a prosecutor was a fantastic idea, but instead of making him dangerous and menacing they just made him extremely edgy with the hawk, the sword and all that samurai bullshit.

>>335019347
In the end he came off as nothing more than a petty loser.

The guy was absolutely insane, it was all about being un control. He even manipulated his own brother during years, that's why he went so mad when Klavier betrayed him.
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>>335018978
>>335019847
>Apollo gets a better objection theme than Phoenix
>Apollo's pursuit theme is up there with the original cornered theme
>Apollo never got accused of a crime
>Apollo never lost a case
>Apollo is now sharing the protagonist role with Phoenix
HOW DOES HE DO IT
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>>335020132
Blackquill is barely edgy at all, and is pretty fair when challenging you in court compared to Franziska and Godot. I didn't have high hopes for him because his design is edgelord incarnate, but he was a pretty good rival.

Kristoph was underwhelming, he was about having control over stuff that seemed really petty in comparison the pretty much every other villain when it came to motives and effort spent. By the end I was just tired of him and the Gramaryes, there was too much bullshit in that case.
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>>335020236
is it just me or does a lot of AJ's OST sounds like it would fit in a megaman X game?
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That's because the games are set in Japan. The US version just gave them English names.
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>>335020132
>Backquill
>edgy
Did you even play the game? He's a total weeb, he also gives you a fair challenge while Klavier is literally giving you hints. I understand that he wants to see justice served, but there could've been a better way to do it. Just look at Edgeworth during 1-3, 1-5, and 2-4.
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>>335020410
You're right, Blacquill was a good rival. I'm not saying he was a bad prosecutor, but he could have been much better.


>By the end I was just tired of him and the Gramaryes, there was too much bullshit in that case.

The Gramaryes where fucking assholes, I give you that. At least we got Trucy thanks to them, so I guess it wasn't that bad.
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>>335018143
i really wish we could see him in a case, just to see how far he got
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>>335020481
Just make an 8-bit remix out of it and it sounds like it would fit in any Megaman game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOuXD7NJg20
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Are the nevest installments even good? I am tempted to buy 3DS
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>>335020481
an MMX composer worked on AJ OST
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>>335021212
>>335020481
http://aceattorney.wikia.com/wiki/Toshihiko_Horiyama
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>>335021161
Dual Destinies is shit.
DGS is fantastic, but isn't localized.
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>>335020752
By AJ we had already seen four prosecutors obsessed with obtaining a guilty veredict. Klavier was a good and necessary change.

Besides, he was an actually fun rival, not like Franziska with her stupid "fool" jokes or Godot with his tryhard memes.
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>>335021368
a kusoge! KUSOGE!
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Is the youtube playthrough of DGS complete?
I'm fed up with waiting.
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>>335021897
It's not. The guy who's doing it hasn't even got to the trial in case 5.
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>>335005369
>>335005369
She's as pale as a fridge
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>>335014202
It's kind of funny how he's skinny during the flashback and didn't go buff mode to try to save the captain
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>>335022712
Didn't drink enough grape juice in time
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>>335022712
He didn't chug a barrel of dead fish.
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>>335004552

That entire case was absolute bullshit as it could have been avoided by NOT leaving the everyone in the dark about the big twist in the first place.

Didn't stop main twist from blowing my mind.
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Best girl?
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>>335020236
Best lawyer, yet shit still happens to him
>Best friend dead
>Dad dead
>Mother left him
>Mentor is a psychopath
'Punished' Apollo
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>>335027307
They still treat him like shit too
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>>335020236
>>335027307
He's still lacking in terms of development. He's been in two games, and we know jackshit about him. Phoenix's backstory was revealed in the game he debuted. Hell, even fucking Athena has more substance to her than Apollo.
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>>335027307
Not only best lawyer, but also best toilet cleaner.
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Best defendant?
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>>335029094
More like defendant with the most punchable face.
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>>335029094
>Bad Badger shirt
best defendant
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>>335028904
>Hell, even fucking Athena has more substance to her than Apollo.

Athena should have never existed. DD could have developed Apollo in order to be a good main character but they decided to go full retard with the random anime gurl.
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>>335028904
I'm hoping his cases in AA6 would dwell into this.
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>>335029094
Best defendant
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>>335028904
I hope AA6 is a true sequel to AA4, where they wrap up Apollo's backstory. Fuck Athena and everything she stands for.
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>>335005369
>red hair
>black
That said this harlot needs to stay the fuck away from AA6.
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>>335029826
I saw this nigga's true form sprites everywhere without context before playing AAI2 that I was fully expecting him to be the bad guy in case 2. The whole case I thought the furcoat lady was a red herring but then they pull all the sentimental trust your client shit with Keys that I felt it was going to be weird exposing him as the criminal after all that pep talk. Then furcoat lady ended up being the only criminal of that case and I realized I already knew the final boss of the whole game.
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>>335029826
AAAAH
The fucker had me completely folled
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>>335029826
I still can't wrap my mind why Hwuang tried to kill him for seemingly no reason whatsoever
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>>335030219
Simon was the one who wanted to kill him.
Huang looked up, saw the balloon about to drop and instead of stepping aside, he tried to shoot at it
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Acro in JFA is black.
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>>335021372
>Klavier
>Fun
He really wasn't, that rock star gimmick got old quick, especially since it doesn't seem like he cares much about prosecuting.
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>>335030337
And he appears in the worst fucking case of the entire series.
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>>335030561
This is a meme.
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>>335030739
Give me an example of a worse case than 2-3, please.

Only valid alternative is 5-2[\spoiler]
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>>335030739
2-1 is the absolute worst, but both 2-3 and 4-3 are contenders for the absolute worst non-tutorial case.
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>>335031630
NO
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>>335030739
>yfw 2-3 was actually the best case we never ever replayed because clownphobic anons perpetuate the "2-3 is shit" meme so nobody ever goes back to reexperience it
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>>335032597
2-3 and Acro are both very underrated.
But come on, the murder in 2-3 is incredibly stupid.
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