Could someone put the size of the universe of No Man's Sky into perspective? Personally, I couldn't even begin to fathom the vastness of it all
>No Missions
>No Cutscenes
>Not an MMO
Then what the fuck is it? It's just gonna be samey planets over and over till you get bored.
>>334981294
Almost bigger than an original Xbox.
>>334981447
This.
It's Space Engine for normies with a console.
I've done this over and over again.
Sure, it might have dinos/life on each planet or something but I bet the load times are god awful. There's a reason so little has been released about it not in E3 being played on a supercomputer.
It's overly ambitious even on good PCs. Let alone glorified gaming laptops.
I can't tell if these threads are supposed to be shilling or trolling
>>334981294
>look at the number of planets and shit!
>only 10% of them can be explored because inhabitability
What
The
Fuck
>>334981294
What's the point in having 18 bamboozillion planets if over 99.99% of them won't even be discovered.
>>334982121
space engine has better graphics
>>334981294
If you think that's crazy, you should take a look out into the actual universe. Not only is it real, but it's even bigger
>>334982653
So they can put that in their advertising and get idiots to think that's impressive.
>>334982121
theres no load times
>>334982912
>Not only is it real, but it's even bigger
proof nigga
>>334982803
It does. If your card has like 4 gigs of RAM then you can crank that shit up and have a good LOD as well.
Plus it's fucking FREE from some ruskie for everyone right now.
>>334982653
Same shit with Borderlands and their Bazillion guns advertising.
>>334983020
Have you personally been to a playing of it during E3?
Otherwise, I'll believe it when I see it and they conveniently leave that to the magic of E3 showcases.
>>334983058
you should have 4 gigs of ram by now....
>>334982629
Habitable=no life
You can still explore them and find resources, they'll just be barren, like the moon, or mars etc.
Also, it makes sense. If every planet was a lush, utopian world, it would get old real quick.
>>334983226
Tell that to the poor 970 purchasers.
>>334983058
explain the free part
>>334983197
no thats how the game works proceduraly, you couldn't have billions of planets stored on a disk you retard.
>>334983318
Meant uninhabitable.
>>334983368
http://en.spaceengine.org/
>>334983383
>you couldn't have billions of planets stored on a disk you retard.
Where did I state that? I'm saying it hasn't been seen outside of a showcase at an E3 functioning as they state it will.
It's shadow and mirror at this point to me.
Give me a functional demo that demonstrates just 20% of what they're going for that works in real time and I'd be hype. They don't do it though.
For good tangible reasons.
>>334983695
You were saying the load times would be long, which they would be if it wasn't procedural. I respect your cautiousness though your at least being rational.
Space Engine is not a game, but it sure is nice to look around and be comfy.
>>334983949
>>334983949
Let's set forth the desktop background thread.
Commence!
So what do we do in this game? I keep seeing it pop up without much of an objective. Cod is shoot people. Dark souls is shank people. Gta is rob and shoot people. Splinter cell is sneaking (and not shooting people you plebs). hitman is stalking people. What does this game do? Do you guys even know?
>>334984239
explore planets i guess
>>334982121
>>334983197
Try watching some of the developer videos. They explain how there are no load times quite clearly. Educate yourself or keep shitposting like a fag. The choice is yours.
>>334984071
There's just something about the atmosphere-less moons/asteroids that give the best looks and vistas.
>procedurally generated universe = huge universe
retards actually believe this
>wipe out a species
>lol that doesn't save to the cloud sorry :)
Why did they admit this and yet still say you can actually destroy planets/species?
>>334983695
They've shown off the game in many demonstrations outside of E3.
Imagine a grain of sand on a rainbow-colored beach
Now, imagine a speck one one-hundredth that size on that grain.
That speck is you.
>>334984475
Ah, isn't that how our universe works though?
>>334984347
>dev videos
Again, I'm not shitting on the game purely but how do you expect me to give one shit at this point?
Every dev lies generally and we've yet to see anything tangible yet. I'm not going to trust their diary to fans and expect anything at this point.
They gotta give something to get something out of me.
>>334984480
They said major changes to planets will be recorded.
>>334984690
Having no load times isn't a hard thing to do, given the low level of detail and low draw distance in all of the videos that have been shown. It's ok to be suspicious, but you're starting to doubt shit for no reason at this point.
>>334984690
try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kifCYToAU
>>334982121
I think space engine is space engine for normies considering it's not a $60 video game... and is completely free.
>>334981294
>I couldn't even begin to fathom the vastness of it all
Let me spell it out for you:
>procedural generation
>there are no missions or cutscenes aside from getting to the galaxy's center, which means there is no pre-written story content
>this means everything is randomly generated
>which means every planet and encounter is completely RNG-based
>which means everything will be simple
>which means after the first planet you visit there is actually nothing new and stimulating to discover in the game unless you're a dribbling idiot who gets excited over super simple cookie cutter shit because it's processed by a rigid algorithm rather than an intelligent and creative human being
Do you get it now? The vastness in actuality is that it has none. Procedural generation is fucking garbage, and hand-crafted world building will always, to the end of time, be infinitely superior.
>>334985496
Procedural generation can be done well.
Don't let a majority of lazy indie developers influence your opinion on that.
>>334985496
heres my thing though, what games are coming out that are open world and hand made that are good? So many hand made open world games that have come out recently have all been shit. With much less content than this game will have.
>>334985496
>rigid algorithm rather than an intelligent and creative human being
Stole muh words that I was thinking.
A hand crafted world is always better.
I still don't know how they'll pull this off. It's why I like Space Engine but I don't sit around fucking around on it all the time. It satisfies my Space fetish and exploration fetish.
This game seems like a pipe dream and it probably won't even have a main quest or anything to keep your average player focused enough to do anything. Again, no demo and little reveal. I don't even know what they're trying here.
>>334985032
wait so the planets don't change everytime i visit them? it thought it was totally random
This game is going to be Spore 2.0.
I fell for it the first time you bastards. I have no soul left for you to steal, so you can fuck right off.
>>334986353
its called research anon.
>>334981294
how is this not a peter molyneux game?
>>334986534
Because they haven't made any outlandish claims at all.
>>334981294
>fathom the vastness of it all
jesus christ its like i had flashes of the dude who always show NMS off.
so is there like resources to mine on planets or ancient ruins? or is it really just orange grass planet, green rock planet, etc.
>hey look a cave
>and it conveniently has an exit
>>334985683
>Procedural generation can be done well.
Not until it HAS been done well, which it hasn't been so far.
Personally, I don't think anyone will get close enough to writing an algorithm complex enough to create worlds as genius as a creative human being can, and if anyone ever does, it won't be for video games.
>>334985712
There's some good to great open world games, like RDR, Black Flag, Far Cry, Witcher 3, Mafia II, etc. and ZERO even semi-decent 100% procedurally generated games. Zero. There's no debate.
>>334981294
game is not even out yet, why speculate?
The most important question:
Will it have aplatinum?
>>334987179
Holy shit
That is the most beautiful image that i've ever seen.
No fucking joke
>>334986947
Yes and yes.
Also, poisonous blob ayy's confirmed.
>>334987014
Recently anon, excluding Witcher 3 which was shit anyways those are all old games. And yeah your right it hasn't been done right yet but people arent wrong for hoping they can get it right with no mans sky. Not everyone had their dreams shattered by spore like the people in this thread.
>>334982912
Why did i laugh so much to this
Its a whole universe of recolors and nothing to do
A glorified tech demo
>>334981294
Into perspective?
Yes. One planet with some minor space around it. Everytime you leave the the confines of space it randomly changes all the textures of the planet you were just on.
>>334987850
thats not how it works and you know it
>>334981294
>18,446, etc etc planets
realistically it's a lot smaller than that because most of the planets won't be unique except for the name...
>>334987596
p cute
>>334987897
Sorry. There's also a codex that record what the previous iterations of the planet were.
>>334987897
oh sorry, it changes the bump mapping too
>>334984512
>Corpse
Fuck you, the Emperor is alive.
>>334988029
>>334988098
nothing changes expect for changes the player has made and you know it
>>334988173
the fuck would anyone be interested in the morning and evening of the day it'd be nice to see you in the past few years ago and everyone else is unauthorized persons
>>334981294
Here OP. This is the best representation of the map size:
https://www.google.com/search?q=elite+dangerous+map&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibo_zn2Z7MAhUX1GMKHXlHARoQ_AUIBygB&biw=1408&bih=705
Also besides the new art style they are basically the same game.
>>334988365
except the player can't make any changes as the procedural generator works by loading the same static seeded planet
>>334988418
woah.... billions of planets and they're all completely UNIQUE?????
thats amazing!!!
>>334984239
>so what do we do in this game
>in every other game you just kill people
>if you're not just killing things in various ways, what's the point of a game?
>>334987692
>those are all old games.
Those games aren't even fucking more than 6 years old. You have a bizarre understanding of "old." Also, what difference does it make? They still EXIST, which is all that matters.
>Not everyone had their dreams shattered by spore
Those people are just not clever enough to realize that procedural generation will always be inferior to the creativity of human imagination. That, or you are just looking for something with endless content, regardless of how shitty the content is.
>>334985683
Procedural generation can only be done well for small areas like dungeons.
Making an entire world or an entire universe/galaxy results in boring shit with nothing interesting.
>>334988098
No, it works like other procedural games, i.e. a random seed determines the location of everything, so it will be the same every time you fly to a planet, regardless of distance travelled.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kifCYToAU
>No Man's Sky releases, it's fantastic
>Fly around the universe exploring 100's upon 100's of planets and galaxies
>3 years later I'm still playing it and I finally reach the center of the universe and find a single blue planet
>on closer inspection the land masses appear too familiar
>fly down to the planet and I see cities teeming with life, more than I thought the game could possibly display
>make my way to a familiar looking house and enter
>walk up stairs into the bedroom to see myself play NMS
>>334988509
wrongo
http://www.gamezone.com/originals/latest-no-man-s-sky-demo-answers-one-question-creates-ten-more-jwmx
>>334988768
XD
+1 brah!
>>334988768
>>>/reddit/
>>334986071
>I still don't know how they'll pull this off.
seeds within seeds. Each galaxy has a random seed for star systems, each star system has a random seed for planets, each planet has 3-4 environment seeds, each environment seed has 5-10 flora and fauna seeds. The idea is they just need to add enough different ways those seeds can be expressed.
minecraft has about four kinds of dirt, four kinds of rock, about a dozen kinds of minerals, maybe twenty kinds of creatures, twenty kinds of plants, three kinds of climate, one kind of water, one kind of lava, one kind of atmosphere. NMS's goal is to increase those numbers to exponentially increase the kinds of worlds that will be generated, and the game itself is a sort of competition among the players to go out there, find the weirdest ones the rng has spat out, and be the first to tell everyone about them. So you skim the boring planets on your quest for the planet where 'clouds' of iron and copper float above a viscous purple ocean world that's in direct contact with the planet's core, or what have you
>>334985032
>flies through a shitty low render distance minecraft map for 30 minutes
> literally says it just works at one point
>still no gameplay
wew lad
All these numbers and charts remind me off spore.
>>334989001
its not a gameplay demo its a tech demo ya dunce
>>334989001
>still no gameplay
Do you get anything out of pretending to be retarded?
>>334988983
exploring randomly generated minecraft worlds gets boring after about an hour anon, just because they paint the grass purple occasionally doesn't really change much
>>334983695
procedural generation you fucking retard jesus haha, does minecraft have load times you dumb fuck?
>>334989147
Do you get anything out of stupidly giving actual retards the benefit of the doubt that they're just pretending?
>>334989002
This is Spore 2.0. Twice the disappointment too.
>>334988640
Old as in I want fucking new rpgs that are good. Like ones coming out in 2016. And that arent downgraded and have cut content. This seems like the closest thing towards that to me. Lately human imagination has been replaced by greed dlc packs and season passes.
>>334989273
Really? I wasn't aware it released yet.
>>334989221
>does minecraft have load times you dumb fuck?
yeah, every time you load the game or travel to and from a different world (the nether, end, and overworld)
>>334981294
Just to put it in perspective, Daggerfall which is about the size of real life England could fit about a thousand times inside the No Man's Sky Universe.
I literally can't comprehend how someone was able to make a game of this magnitude, you will literally be able to play this game for all your life and still not have explored it completely.
I gues... this... is... the power... of... procedural generation...
Woah...
>>334981294
Every thousand years, this metal sphere, ten times the size of Jupiter, floats just a few yards past the earth. You climb on your roof and take a swipe at it with a single feather. Hit it once every thousand years, till you've worn it down to the size of a pea.
Yeah that may seem like a long time but it's only half a blink compared to going from one end of the No Man's Sky map to the other.
>>334989336
I'm from the future.
>>334989336
Why are you this fucking naive?
I mean its ok that you are excited for the game and all but just because you think it will be good doesnt mean it WILL be good.
>>334989237
Yeah, it gives me hope that people aren't actually that dumb.
>>334981294
Fuck off shill
>>334989147
>>334989237
holy shit, the buttblasted autistic No Gameplay's Sky squad came after me
stay mad because I pointed out your sixty dollar starbound's fatal flaw
>>334989273
How is it a disappointment? You were never hyped for it in the first place anon.
>>334981294
Sure, there are about a gazillion planets, but in actuality there is only about 10 with different trees and colors.
>>334981294
>all these numbers and supposedly impressive data
Yup that sounds like spore.
>the 'goal' is to get to the center of the galaxy and no one knows what's there
No scratch that it isn't spore. It is the fucking cube peter Molyneux game.
>>334989569
Except this has actual gameplay.
>>334989569
nah in spore your goal was to get to the center of the galaxy too
>>334988768
This was my hype before Spore.
This is my mind after.
>>334989324
>Lately human imagination has been replaced by greed dlc packs and season passes.
Careful with that edge, hipster.
Regardless, I would rather play Witcher 3 which "was shit anyways" according to you, or something like Dying Light, or the new Deus Ex or even The Division, than something that is 100% procedurally generated, which means it'll be 100% false glamour.
>>334989775
>hipster
???
>>334981294
Holy shit this image.
How fucking more obvious could shills possibly be? Like Jesus Christ just get a trip with, "NMS DEV" with something already, jeez.
>>334989438
Okay...that goes both ways, fuckstick. Just because you think it's gonna suck doesn't mean it will.
>>334989467
Oh, so you just like to enjoy the delusion.
People are that retarded and more. Deal with it, stop pretending.
>>334989775
But its not 100% procedural? Theres no point in arguing though you already have your opinion. Enjoy the Division anon.
Who here /goingtoplaynomansskyforvereratthelowpriceof60$/?
>>334981294
>>334982968
>>334982653
It's just the max size of a 128-bit datatype, which is standard. There could be even more if they used a larger datatype if they wanted, but I guess they were satisfied with something merely that obscene.
I'd be surprised if they could generate 18 quintillion interesting variations of planets, let alone a few hundred.
>>334987421
420broooooooo
>>334981294
Time to have you BTFO OP even though I admire your innocent optimism.
Skip to the 4 minute mark and notice how the kike jew sweats up trying to dodge questions regarding multiplayer that are repeatedly thrown at him.
ONE MAN'S BLUNDER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ORFgfhj_hM
>>334990678
not a single person here thinks this thread was made genuinely
>>334990856
Yea... OP is an obvious shill. Kind of sad really.
>>334987692
>Thinks that by calling Witcher 3 shit he'll seem patrician
Opinion immediately discarded. Better luck next time bud.
>>334983368
>>334983448
I love how he thought it was some kind of trick.
"Free software? That's impossible. I've been paying for it all my life."
This game is poised to be the most boring fucking game in existence. The infographic, which is supposed to sell the game, expressly tells you that only 10% of the 18 gorillion planets are habitable, meaning the 90% of the planets are not even worth landing on.
>>334992298
You might be right that the game will be boring, but your reasoning is crap, to be honest. Of course most planets won't be habitable. 10% is a retardedly high proportion of habitable planets. It's not like you're going to run out of habitable planets; 10% of 1.8e19 planets is still 1.8e18.
Not that the actual number of planets matters worth a fucking damn. Procedural generation makes the large number of planets easy as fuck, so they created a stupidly large number of them. But if there were only a million planets, nobody would know the difference.
In any case, if the game turns out to be boring, it will be because exploring these planets just isn't that fun.
I wonder if the "gaming community" will stop being a bunch of exploitable autists after this hyped up colossally fails.
Even if people become 1% more aware, that'll be a good thing. So please, enjoy the scam you're about to get to the fullest. Savor every moment of it.
>>334993095
>scam
we know exactly what we're getting
there's been no lies
>>334990678
Are you a fucking autist? The game isn't supposed to be multiplayer. The point of the game is to be a single-player experience you thick-skulled moron
Cant wait for half of the planets being named after the persons youtube and twitch
>>334992298
Habitable planets can be interesting retard
>>334994410
The human race as a whole could be dead before 25% of the planets are discovered
>>334994568
>implying anyone would bother sitting through all the generic permutations to even progress to 0.1%
You've seen one, you've seen them all.
Not even Minecraft players are autistic enough to try and push the limits of random seeds.
