Are you ready for legacy servers?
nope
You think I am, but I'm not.
Nope.
Sometimes I think I am, but the World of Warcraft Experience™ is just is not the same without expansion packs.
>>334976723
It's funny because the real blizzard shills aren't much less obvious than your post
>several superior MMO's on the market
>no one plays because no one plays it
Man both Secret World and Wildstar are so good... player base is too small though.
I was mostly playing wow because of the story, during Cataclysm Blizzard started fucking up. Going the easiest and cheesiest direction with the story. Now I just don't care anymore.
>>334976801
I have no idea what you are talking about, fellow enthusiast of the World of Warcraft Experience™
Blizzard does not hire people for "shilling" its world leading products, they prefer to let the hours of unmatched quality play time speak for itself.
>>334976979
Wildstar had its shot it was garbage.
>>334976979
maybe it because they are not good
>>334975960
>You think you are, but you aren't.
at least get the memes right anon
>>334975810
The majority don't want that.
>>334975810
>mfw it'll still never happen even after 500K sigs.
>>334977036
>>334977045
Naw, they're pretty decent.
>Inb4 they fuck it up like with tibia classic servers
>>334975810
I think I might sign, but I won't.
>>334977070
You don't think it be like it is, but it do.
>>334975810
>paying for legacy
>>334977139
[citation needed]
>>334975810
>Nostcucks still can't move on
>>334977270
>>334977360
I just don't get it they make fun of people who play retail when they want to pay to play.
>>334977360
>Retailcucks can't get over their dying game
>>334977360
Perhaps they should all delve into the world of Azeroth in Legion™ for the ultimate World of Warcraft Experience™. For the Alliance/Horde!
>petition
You realize this has absolutely no effect on anything right?
You agreed when you checked the box of the EULA that you would not use their assets to do anything other than play on their official servers, making a whiny petition on change.org will not get you out of a legally binding contract.
>>334977315
200k is the majority of over 8 million.
>>334975810
Blizzard was in their rights to shut down the server, it was still a dick move though.
They're definitely not going to make a legacy server. Sure 300k people may want it, but they won't risk drawing people away from their main servers. Especially to a mechanically and visually inferior version of the game.
>>334977360
>>334977485
ANNDDD HERE COME THE PAJEETS
Not even close to 500 posts yet lads, it's gonna be a bumpy shill ride
>>334977485
>You realize this has absolutely no effect on anything right?
>>334977612
>posting literally nothing
we did it reddit xd
>>334977485
I agree that the petition is pointless. However the EULA isn't a binding legal agreement, all it does is give Blizzard the right to ban your account on their servers. We could have a whole stretched out discussion about consumer rights, and how people have the right to the product they purchased, regardless of the "nature" of MMO's and expansions. But it would be time consuming and would go nowhere.
>>334976979
>wildstar
>good
>>334977612
Is that supposed to be a pic related post? He's doing us no favors at all and potentially damaging any reputable arguments the community as for private servers.
>more people want legacy servers than their new expansion
>more people want THE SAME GAME than the NEW VERSION OF THE GAME
oh fuck this is classic
if blizz shits out legacy servers it's basically an open admission that their game is SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>334977813
>more people want legacy servers than their new expansion
I don't think that's correct but we should ask blizzard to post the number of legion preorders.
>>334977612
>random dude who was some team leader for the development of vanilla
>doesn't even work for blizzard anymore
>going to call morhaim
That's precious
>>334977891
>we should ask blizzard to post the number of legion preorders.
You think you want that, but you don't.
>>334977813
They have 5 above average games, then there's WoW which is pretty much launch SWTOR tier garbage right now. They put all the shitty designers in charge of that game and it's gone to shit.
>>334977951
I love this meme. Better than Todd posting
>>334977925
Just like each penny that gets put into your account every time you make a shill post, pajeet
https://youtu.be/hhTTY4-5E1s?t=2235
>>334977783
when they voted him out firefall completely died. That was a great game killed by the new head. they only put out one major update since he got the boot. and it hasnt been updated once after that.
>>334978028
Thanks bro, first time I've been accused of being a shill on /v/, you popped my cherry.
>>334978028
>>334976995
>>334977579
>>334976723
Hello tom cruise
Even if Blizzard decides to launch Legacy servers, do you think it'll be anytime soon? They have to get Legion out first, and continue to support itinb4 lol Blizz supporting xpacs, so you are looking at another year before Blizzard will put any focus on Legacy servers. By the time they decide to even do it, people won't fucking care. And if Blizzard DOES ever do it, they won't be what people expect, and people will still be pissed.
>>334975810
>blizzard literally comes here to shitpost about its shitty nostralius server which it pretends to be totally not a product of blizzard
>nobody gives a shit about nostralius so blizzard shuts it down and blames the shutdown on blizzard rather than general disinterest
i'll admit this is mildly amusing, but please seek help
nobody believes your shit
and your games were never popular, post-diablo2
>>334978170
Not cruise poster but I wish he was here for this
>>334978185
People have been waiting a long time. They can wait longer. They just want legacy servers.
>it's a nostcuck episode again
>>334976979
>Man both Secret World and Wildstar are so good
I'm ready to play on some dedicated servers. I'd gladly pay monthly. It's just never worth it playing private servers knowing they'll get shut down one day.
>>334978185
This is what most people don't understand they think blizz is going to drop legion because of a petition with 200k signatures.
>>334978170
>He's in these threads enough to recognize the tom cruise poster
Basically admission of guilt at this point
>>334977813
>more people want legacy servers than their new expansion
>more people want THE SAME GAME than the NEW VERSION OF THE GAME
That is completely untrue. Half the faggots who signed this petition wouldn't even play the Legacy servers. They are just doing it because anti-Blizzard is 2 kewl right now. I would like Legacy servers too, but let's not pretend they are nearly as desirable as the internet is making them out to be right now just because we hate Blizzard.
>>334978326
to be fair he post the same stuff over and over.
>>334978326
and so are you. Nice hypocrisy, nostcuck
i signed even though i secretly don't want them to do it so i don't have to sink another 50+ days /played in to vanilla and tbc
>>334978310
People don't want them to drop Legion. They want them to launch Legacy servers paralell like Runescape.
>>334978363
>100k people signed a petition for the "cool factor"
Ever think it's just because retail WoW is fucking shit and people want Vanilla? Or does Blizzard not let you think of yourselves as part of the contract?
>>334978363
This. Did everyone forget already that there is no duplicate prevention and that sodapoppin got thousands of people who don't play and have never played WoW? The petition literally has no legitimacy. It's honestly sad that Mark Kern will print 5000 pages (yeah what a waste) of internet petitions
>>334978403
Except I'm not in here defending Blizzard - also you didn't deny it so hello shill :^)
>>334978069
>>334977783
Firefall had an amazing idea under Kern, and then once he left, they got some work done for a lot of things... But they killed the best parts of the game. Now it's a piss, level bound MMO without nearly as much freedom in terms of movement, combat, pvp, or crafting.
>>334978615
>also you didn't deny it so hello shill
every time, are you mentally stunted or just underage? This is literally what elementary school kids do
>>334978725
>ignored the :^)
trolled hard
>>334978725
>are you mentally stunted or just underage?
Which one should I put on my resume to increase my likelihood of getting a job like yours?
>>334975810
Morhaime is going to print out the email. Fold it up nicely. Then use it as toilet paper. And I will laugh.
Dumb nostalgiafags don't realise they are a large part of the reason Draenor sucked so hard and are the entire reason Wildstar flopped.
I am so ready for Legacy servers. I can't wait to ignore them.
i just don't understand why blizzard wont give us the servers we want.
there's literally hundreds of thousands of players who quit because we think retail wow is trash and will never ever sub to it again under any circumstances
yet if there were a decent tbc server people would flock to it, hell even people who never played vanilla/tbc who have to witness this commotion will try out the golden days of wow
>Its a Pirate fags vs Pay fags thread in disguise episode.
>>334978838
>WoD sucked
>It's Vanilla fans fault!
Fucking kekking, this one has gone rogue!
>>334978838
>haha look at those dumb fucks wanting to give us money while we are bleeding subs
>lets buy candy crush for 6 billion dollars
>>334978783
You're really pathetic, you know that? Everyone else can see how much of a fool you are. You're not smart or le epik troll xd if you think so. Anyway, it's pretty sad that you make shitposting threads and posts on /v/ shitting on blizzard, then begging for the chance to suck their dick for legacy servers
absolutely pathetic. Anyway enjoy your circlejerk with your buddy here
>>334978697
what do you mean they got work done they released the planned area dlc basically removed pvp and havent put out a single update. did I miss something? the test server has only done a few things but they never put it on the public.
>>334978957
More like one guy spamming shill thread
>>334978986
>this amount of mad
>>334978170
>He's so ridden with PTSD that he literally sees me everywhere he goes, even when I'm not even There yet
LMAO HOW BTFO DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO GET TO THE POINT YOU'RE AT
>>334978363
Don't just pick and choose certain things to reply to in my comment. I said I would like Legacy servers too. I was never arguing FOR retail WoW, or against Legacy, I'm just stating obvious things /v/ loves to overlook.
1. The internet is upset at Blizzard because of Nostalrius. It's fair to assume many signatures are simply out of spite.
2. It will take time to even make Legacy servers available. Blizzard takes their sweet ass time on everything. They aren't just going to ignore Legion, or the other two expansions they are working on, to rush out Legacy servers for a vocal minority.
3. This is an extremely successful company that's been in the business for a long time. They've discussed the possibility of Legacy servers before private servers gained popularity. People seem to think Blizzard is just giving up on potential money. Yeah fucking right, they know the pros and cons of their actions and exactly what they are and are not losing.
4. If Legacy servers come to fruition it will still not be enough to make the community happy. People will argue about imbalances, when patches should come out, how to expand on the game, etc. It will double the amount of negative feedback and workload they already have.
>>334979131
HE'S HERE!
>>334979083
>ahaha i'm so funny for pretending to be retarded
fuck off retard
>>334979148
Fuck, I tagged myself when I meant to tag >>334978506
>>334975810
>internet petitions
>ever doing anything
>Hey G would you make me a legacy server
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_gBVmaqYY
>>334979217
Calm down Pajeet it's just a bit of banter
>>334978506
I'm pretty sure if you faggots stopped constantly remaking Nostalrius threads people would stop posting pro-Blizzard shit.
>>334979202
What do you mean? He's been here the whole time, he just samefags constantly pretending to be different persons
>>334977139
literally doesn't matter what the majority wants
papa blizzard is ALWAYS right
>>334979310
>What do you mean? He's been here the whole time
I'll take his word over yours because I know that he isn't getting paid
fuck off neo-Vanilla retards
Nostalrius was as farther from its original spirit as possible
I REALLY want to see their reply
>fatfuck is printing 5000 pages
That's just retarded
>>334976979
If anything was actually "superior" to WoW then it would of matched or broken WoW's subs wom wrath.
nothing has come close. If the shit you liked was actually good then it would of sold more. Simple as that.
>>334976979
I'd play Tera, had their continued class releases not forced me to look like a loli fag.
And like 5% of the people that actually signed this useless petition would actually pay to play a Vanilla server. The people that would play would play for a few months until the nostalgia wore off and they quit.
Not fucking economical.
>>334979439
class restrictions are so fucking stupid
>>334979447
but vanilla bro come on it's the greatest thing ever
>Their "spokesperson" literally looks like a dad who wants his son to think he's cool
>The picture of him they used for that interview has him in one of the poses that "Hell yeah, motherfucker" kid did
>>334979392
The only one who says anything about who's getting paid or not is you, nobody else, i.e. your word is even more worthless. Keep being the epik thread trawl though
Why the fuck does it keep increasing the signatures required ?
It was at 250 000 this morning and now its 300 000
>>334977445
>"dying" game is still producing new content
>tie in movie in a couple months
>Just released new lore book for illidan that's sold like crazy
>"dying" game
>>334979447
There are far more people that want and would play legacy servers than would go through the trouble of begging for them.
That aside, Blizzard needs to either address this issue or create legacy servers. This situation is a PR nightmare for them and will ultimately cost them both subs and expansion sales without doing something about it.
>>334979439
>being on 4chan
>hating loli
pick one, this site was quite LITERALLY created because people couldnt post loli on SA's ADTRW board. if you don't like loli, you do not belong here, end of story.
>>334979606
>One mention of the cruise poster and he goes critical
>>334975810
>tfw what made vanilla servers great was the community and culture of online gamers at the time and we'll never get it back.
>>334977813
Two scenarios with private servers.
>blizz sees what people like on them, looks at their own new expansion and tailors it to really get it right. Legacy servers serve as a reflection of what they are doing.
>Blizzard sees legacy makes money over new content, stops pumping out new expansions for good.
>>334979681
>Blizzard needs to either address this issue
They have, every year since before cataclysm and this was last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhTTY4-5E1s&feature=youtu.be&t=37m16s
learn to accept "no". They don't have to do shit, their stance is the same as always
>>334976979
Honestly, MMOs are probably on their way out as a genre. No one seems to be able to make one that beats WoW, even when they've been continually setting the bar lower and lower every expansion. The real thing that killed WoW was the movement of young gamers from MMOs to MOBAs and the fact that most of the neckbeards who grew up on WoW have a life now and can't play it anymore. Of course, WoW sucking cock also helps a lot.
>>334979148
>double the workload they already have
>>334979802
There is another scenario
>blizzard shut it down for good
>>334978363
>anti-Blizzard is 2 kewl right now
>WoW is in the shitter
>Overcuck is gonna be a flop
>Hearthstone is p2w
So kewl :^)
>>334979807
>learn to accept "no".
>They don't have to do shit
Can't we just do the same thing as Blizzard is doing and not listen?
>>334979447
This is actually true. Most people probably only played Nost because it was free. Today's generation of gamers would get turned off over having to put actual effort into the game to get anything and the older players have gone on with their lives by now.
>>334979807
That and this are two separate issues.
Before they could just say "no" to any direct questions and be fine. Now they have directly attacked a huge part of their fanbase by shutting down this server and no one is talking about World of Warcraft on social media except about legacy servers and Nostalrius.
Their forum moderators have been working around the clock to delete threads related to legacy servers and Nostalrius on the official forums.
>>334977612
Dont companies frown upon stuff like this? Open letter and a vid? It honestly seems like pressure, is this nigga going to lose his job over this? Lol
>>334979908
Yeah that could work, if only you had something to bargain with. Blizzard makes the product, not you
>>334979307
This. It's s fucking spiral of stupidity. One idiot posts bait and then a massive amount of idiots jump on the bandwagon on both sides. Just to troll each other.
>>334979447
This. This all fucking day. Why is /v/ just ignoring it? I would enjoy Legacy too, as someone who has played WoW since 2005. It would be awesome to relive some old moments. But I'm not naive, I know the demand isn't as high as the internet or this waste of paper petition is making it out to be. And what happens if we do get Legacy servers? Do the servers go through updates like they did in the past, and we go through BC/Wrath/Cata etc? Does it stay Vanilla forever? Are there balance adjustments to fix the things that were wrong in Vanilla? Do they add anything extra in the game, or keep it as pure as possible?
So much shit that people will complain about. Even the smallest, most insignificant shit will create uproar. "So it's cool we get Legacy servers Blizz, but I can't use all the mounts I've been collecting over the years? I spent money on these mounts and now I can't even use them." If you don't think people won't make arguments like that, you're kidding yourself. The whining and crying about WoW will double because people will have two different versions of the game to bitch about. The WoW community has been fucking cancer since Wrath.
>>334979942
>Most people probably only played Nost because it was free.
You mean with all the GREAT CHOICES of other private servers that aren't vanilla? Jimminy jee willickers!
Reminder that an inherent problem with legacy servers is that there's no unanimously agreed upon cut-off point. If they did legacy servers right now, assuming they were a thing by the time Legion is out, there's be 7 different versions of WoW that they'd have to maintain, all with the appropriate code on the appropriate hardware, and they can't just have a bunch of french faggots run it because it's illegal to have an unpaid workforce in California, volunteer or not.
It's not happening.
>>334979817
MMO's no longer have to "kill WoW". There are plenty of profitable ones available now.
The corporate cunts are finally accepting that MMOs aren't a get rich quick scheme.
>>334979986
>Yeah that could work, if only you had something to bargain with.
You mean this stuff?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money
>>334979945
No, it's still the same. and they delete and lock threads on the official forum if the threads are repeats of already answered topics, in other words people who don't use the search function or refuse to accept what blue posts have to say.
I just want to remind you all of Blizzard's idea of giving fans what they want:
- Burning Crusade 2: Casual Edition
- Illidan is a good goy
- Everyone gets an Ashbringer
- Garrisons are back baby!
- Even less buttons, now you can play with a controller
>>334980271
>now you can play with a controller
PLEASE TELL ME IT AIN'T SO
It's awful where it's at the point where I actually can't tell anymore
I just want to remind you all what nostalgiafags caused
-Warlords of Draenor
>>334980128
Hey, thanks for linking me this, let me link you something else
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_segmentation
Blizz is not beholden to you, learn to accept it
>>334979794
Nost had it back. I had more community interaction in the 3 weeks I got to play it then the whole time I played MoP and WoD.
>>334980338
You can in WoD if you play an Arms Warrior. Literally a four-button rotation.
>>334980391
You'd have to be a complete moron to think Nost was accurate to being in 2004-2006
Vanilla WoW didn't have only 2 server choices.
>>334980354
Good marketing strategy, I can't wait for it to kick in and see how good WoW can really be!
I'm ready for the massive backlash when Blizzard explains why they can't/won't do legacy servers. If they even say anything at all.
But honestly, I liked the vanilla community but the actual game was fucktarded. All I can think about are the specs that weren't at all viable and the gold sinks with regents and all that stupid shit. I don't want to farm soul shards again, I really don't.
>>334980354
If sub numbers keep plummeting the way they are they soon won't even have a "market".
>>334980578
You won't.
>>334979698
I'm LITERALLY dead. I LITERALLY can't even.xB
>>334980578
Yeah, it is indeed a shame for them that they can't get you as a customer. Oh well, you can always play something else
>>334980345
Yes, nostalgia fags asked for garrisons, because everyone loved those in vanilla.
>>334980065
Start with Vanilla as it was the natural starting point of WoW, progress though the content in the same cadence as the original game, each expansion launches at their appropriate time in the cycle, every expansion will become available eventually unless later expansions like Cata/MoP/WoD turn out to be unpopular.
>>334980729
'tis a shame indeed, me and millions of others.
>>334980829
then that's not fair to the people who did enjoy those expansions
I know some dumb faggot is going to greentext that and I don't give a shit, as a business you do NOT exclude people because what they liked wasn't popular.
>>334980737
Man, I can't believe what a failure Garrisons were. I went from, "This is pretty cool. I like new things, this is neat and different." to "This is exhausting and fucking terrible I am bored." In a month. I really didn't like where professions were in MoP and thought any change would be great, but it got 10x worse.
>>334977612
>Print 5000 pages
Enjoy wasting all that money
>>334980509
Lol as compared to now where you don't even have a server and just idle in your Garrison while queued in LFR?
>>334980578
HAHA LMAO, GUYS. HOW CAN THOSE STUPID KEKS ON RETAIL PLAY THE SAME RAID FOR OVER A YEAR?
If only I could get MY servers, where we'll be stuck at the same patch and with the same raids forever...
>>334980937
If it's not financially viable and worth Blizzard's time, sucks for those people. People want legacy servers to get away from piles of shit like Cata+
>dumb faggot that'll do anything to be relevant again latches on to something he used to be a part of
>gets interviewed and trashes the game the way it is now
>admits to not having played the game for 6 years
>>334977612
>sodacucking
>nostfags
Why do they go hand in hand? Because they're both faggots.
I wonder if the shills know they would be better off not attempting to reply to every one ITT and instead just not reply and bump the threads?
>>334981545
dumb frogposter
I wonder if the nostalgiafags know they would be better off moving on with their lives?
>>334981545
How would they make 5 cents per post?
>>334981660
Forgot about that, thanks
NOSKEKS LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>334981283
he's fucking based but you wouldnt know that because you suck blizzards cock for a living.
>>334979629
>stock filename
hello marketer
>>334976979
Don't know about Wildstar, but Secret world was a hack of a MMO.
Most of the gameplay was solo oriented, which is the problem with MMOs.
Linear Story Solo Progression does not make a good MMO.
Good MMOs are based around large open worlds and exploring, with content that is best done in a group, and a chore to do solo, the problem with these MMOs is grouping up is usually a hindrance unless its forced.
Secret world was trying too hard to be a single player game with all the baggage buggy MMO grinds have tacked on, it would have been more polished if they just made it co-op rather then an MMO.
And Wildstar was a generic modern WOW clone, which focuses around end game content but the leveling process is a chore more then anything.
And this is the problem people don't know how to make good MMOs these days, they usually sit back and either copy WOW's metagame thinking "Well this has to work, right?" or make shoddy RPGs with MMO tacked on and expect people to sub for it.
MMOs are about worlds that players play in, together or against one another, grinding with achievable goals like a new item or ability that lets you do new things, not an infinitely scaling generic set of stats, and to have enough depth that players can experiment with for months if not years and find new ways to play the game, the setting can vary, the gameplay type can be radically different between them, but the core of an MMO is playing with or against many other people in a persistent online world, and many new MMOs fail to even have a fraction of that in the experience outside of queue based minigames that belong in arena games.
>>334981165
A progression server moves forward
Imagine if the next raid unlocked 3 months after the current one had been beaten, up until it's caught up to live. And then they start a new server.
Honest question to those who did play Vanilla/BC. Would you really invest time in playing Legacy? Sure, running Shadowfang Keep and Zul'Farrak would be fun again. You would think, "Oh man this is cool, it's challenging and we actually have to try and can't just push through shit with heirloom gear!" But how long before that runs off and it becomes, "This isn't that fun anymore. I've already done this 100 times in the past." There is no mystery to it, you already know the layouts and the fights, and that was part of why it was fun.
Nostalgia only works in short bursts to remind you of a fun experience or moment you once had. It doesn't work well in long doses. I don't know how many times I've restarted FFVII or Chrono Trigger or Super Mario World with the thought I was going to playthrough the entire game and enjoy old times and I end up quitting after a few hours because it gave me what I needed. I would much rather see Blizzard find a way to revive Azeroth and old dungeons and make them relevant to current WoW than I would having them create Legacy servers so I can replay content I completed 11 years ago. I want Blizzard to stop pumping out new content and letting all their old stuff just become irrelevant. There's a beautiful world out there to enjoy with little reason to do it. Achievement hunting and archeology isn't enough. Give me real incentive to revisit the Wetlands again. You know, world events and shit. Form a group of 10 players and fight some boss in the Wetlands for this week that drops something relevant to end game. Why can't they just do shit like this? It's not that hard.
>>334981896
>so terrible at his job he gets fired from being a CEO
he wasn't responsible for shit in Vanilla
>>334981637
I met my best friends in WoW. I played Vanilla, TBC and WOLTK with my GF.
I miss those days. It was simpler. Why won't you let me go back?
>>334982009
>Would you really invest time in playing Legacy?
Not really because the game wasn't that good back then and you can recreate the sense of community wow had back then and I wonder how long the raids are going to last with the experienced raiders we have today.
>>334982149
Because time machines can only go back to the point in time when they were invented.
>>334981896
He's not, don't be fooled by the "team lead" title he had, the guy can't make a game if his life depended on it and got cucked by his own employees. No bigger played like Kungen even knew he existed until a few days ago
The guy is trash and desperate to attach his name to any big mess like this, he did it with gamergate too
>>334982149
because your life sucks and you just want to run backwards instead of manning up.
>>334981637
I don't understand the problem you have with people who want to play video games.
>>334982009
>Nostalgia only works
It's not nostalgia. That's what you fail to understand.
>>334982009
I would seriously invest time into legacy. It's more than just "run this dungeon" and "run that dungeon" and then getting bored of them. It's cheesy to say, but it was more than a game - it was a community. You could play with your friends, see all the regulars, and even make friends (there's people I still talk to to this day that I met on Vanilla) there was a sense of community in Vanilla because of the mechanics and design in place at the time. Current retail WoW has the population, but no community. It feels like a single player game with other people around you, and party members for dungeons might as well be AI/bots that never talk.
>>334982252
No big player*
>>334982252
>No bigger played like Kungen even knew he existed until a few days ago
Who gives a fuck about that fag? I don't know whos more retarded you or the one you're replying.
I signed just because I want to see that bitch, Tradechat, off herself.
She was acting all high and mighty about Blizzard shutting them down.
>>334982205
With Naxx it would still take a few weeks if not months to clear due to the gear requirements.
Also OG 4 Horsement
>>334982217
Good taste in time machines.
>tfw this petition thing was just some screamer and an blizz's ex employee attention whoring
>tfw all of us true vanilla lovers got played
>again
>>334982009
Do you think people just forced themselves to play on Nost? People were in the process of opening the AQ gates, were they just there for laughs?
>>334982338
It's an example to show NOBODY FUCKING CARES. Kungen and sodapoppin among others are big proponents of the petition and yet they didn't even know who he was.
Btw, mike morhaime doesn't even follow him on twitter. The signs are everywhere, he's a cipher
Mark "$3 million dollar bus" Kern
>>334981896
Even if he agrees with your opinion, he admits that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
There is no difference between him and Anita except that you like is opinions.
>>334982267
I think about it a lot, actually. Things I could've done differently that would've kept me out of the place I'm in now.
WoW is definitely a contributing factor
>blizzard has 0 competent coders
>old code is gone forever
>blizzard takes 5 years to make a game
>even the absolute laziest expansions they shit out take three times longer to make than they would like
Not really sure how this would work.
>wanting retail-like cash shop, monthly fees and all the casual revamps
>>334982405
When blizzard say no he's probably going to announce his new game for all the loyal people who signed the petition.
>>334982481
Well anon when you're right, you're right.
>>334975810
I think i want to sign it, but i dont
>>334982562
thank you for this
>>334982304
Alright, so you'd be prepared to go years (the game will NEVER be updated past the last patch) without any new content?
When does that stop being fun? Fast, since people on retail can't stand the 1 year wait cycles between expansions.
And if it's something like this guy said
>>334982000
Does that mean the Vanilla experience will only last until TBC? You're just threading the past cycles, but eventually you're either going to start all over again, or stop.
It seems flawed.
>>334982503
Mark "Responsible for Starcraft, Warcraft, Diablo, and World of Warcraft" Kern
>>334982665
nostcucks think i want to sign it, but i dont
>>334982665
Loving this meme
>NOTHING will happen.
>"E-celebs" getting lots of attention and views ($$$)
>>334979859
>facebook integration
>major patch
Please.
>If it weren't for content droughts I couldn't play actual games in the period between the end of one expansion and beginning of another
it's better this way anyway
>>334982707
>responsible
Kaplan had WAY more to do with WoW's success than that turd
>>334982705
Probably would cut it off and push the rest button after WOLTK, allowing you to transfer off characters after your stats/achievements/etc are rolled into your overarching battle.net account
>>334982009
Despite the content being repetitive, it would still be the best MMO experience on the market.
Not saying its a -good- solution, but modern MMOs are really bad, like really really bad, unless you can stomach playing EVE or OSRS, vanilla WOW without any of the usual bullshit that private servers have like pay 2 win and boosted XP was for the time it existed the best MMO to play.
>>334982720
>People that don't even play the game are making money off the actual players.
lel dumb fucks
>>334979629
it's either bait or a blatant shill
>>334982707
>I literally believe Mark Kern is responsible for designing, writing, programming, rendering and marketing every single aspect of any game he's been involved in.
>>334982309
I agree with you. The community aspect is really suffering right now, and that's shitty for an MMO. I remember all the great interactions I had in Vanilla/BC and the fun world PVP that just doesn't happen anymore. Stranglethorn was a fucking blood bath, it was great. But they could create a sense of community again if they tried without the need for Legacy servers. Unfortunately that might never happen.
>>334982438
I know there's people genuinely interested, but I think the majority are people who actually never experienced Vanilla. It's not old timers screaming for Legacy servers as much as it's Wrath babies and Cata kids. I'm 30 years old, I've been playing this shit for a long time. I would probably dick around on a Legacy server in my spare time for fun, but I would much rather see them try to fix the current game and find new ways to re-explore old content. I'm not saying that will never happen, that's just my hope and what I would prefer.
>>334983029
>implying that's what I meant and not that he had a significant hand in the development of those games as team lead
top strawman shillboy
>>334975810
>asking for official servers instead permission to run their own legacy servers
>>334982707
Mark Kern was a producer, not a designer. Don't confuse "Team Lead" with Creative Director or Lead Designer. From Burning Crusade onward they removed the position entirely.
Rob Pardo made WoW good in the first place. Mark Kern is a fucking hack who will only ever be known for Firefail.
>NOSTALRIUS HAD OVER ONE TRILLION ACTIVE ACCOUNTS! REMEMBER THE GAZILLION GOYS!
>only 200k sigs for their faggy petition
el em ay oh pham
@334983104
you shan't be harvesting any more (you)s from me
>>334977303
How do you make a gif like this?
>>334983104
>team leads had "significant hands" in designing the content
Well at least now I know Mark Kern posts here. Not like he has much else to do besides pretend he's relevant.
>>334975810
The entitled gamers strike once again.
WoW is literally the cancer that killed the Warcraft franchise, you're all fucking retards.
>>334983165
they always said 800k accounts, that doesn't mean active players. 200k signatures is pretty good for that.
>Please watch my stream / youtube channel, we want legacy realms back!
>Hey guys, I used to work for Blizzard, I'll help you get the petition to Blizz! Also my new game is coming out soon!
>>334983281
I agree, warcraft should have stayed an RTS or evolved into something else. Yet I can't stop playing because I love warcraft so much
>>334983281
I don't get it. We want to pay money for it.
>>334983157
>From Burning Crusade onward they removed the position entirely.
And from Burning Crusade onward the game has seen a significant decline in quality. Interesting.
Try to smear the man's reputation as much as you want, what's important here is that someone who was team lead during the development of the game said legacy servers would not only be cheap but easy to implement as well. Someone who was around for the construction of the game from the ground up and its eventual launch without a doubt knows the in and outs and the logistics of a project like legacy servers.
Hate it all you want shillcuck, you've been absolutely BTFO by the Kern.
>>334983281
WoW killed MMOs in general
>If you copy old WoW you get Worldstar or whatever it's called
>If you copy current WoW you go F2P within a year because you're not Blizzard
>>334983496
I don't.
I want my free server reeeeeeeee
>>334983348
Pretty much. It's gamergate all over again, just people leeching off the drama to get fame or money. Mark kern especially
>>334983398
When I got WOW for the first time i always though it was supposed to be like an RTS where players were the units.
Would have been cool if players built cities and towns and shit, I was always waiting for contested zones to become proper war zones, sadly that never happened and they just created BGs which are cancer.
>>334983508
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/20/rumor-mark-kern-removed-as-ceo-of-red-5-studios/
>>334983508
>And from Burning Crusade onward the game has seen a significant decline in quality. Interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
>>334983563
Someone post the Wildstar attunements pic
>>334983563
This is such a fallacy, any mmo would be happy with 250k subs or players or whatever. It doesn't need to be a large whale like blizz' WoW
>>334983563
Wildstar fails because it focuses entirely on WOW's end game from vanilla.
What made vanilla WOW was the initial experience and how even at the end game you still had quests to do and things to do with other people.
MMO's focus too much on the end game and not on the core epxerience as a whole.
Its why I was hype for EQN, there was no levels, just classes and gear with near infinate ways to customize your classes, with multiclassing, keyword based item mechanics letting you turn your warrior into a tank empowered by nature.
>>334983508
MoP and Wrath > Vanilla and TBC
Face it, faggot. Vanilla just sucks donkey dick. No one will play the legacy servers after the first 60 days.
>>334983508
>nostcuck so fucking desperate he latches onto mark kern
lmaooo. You're literally no better than SJWs, where they latch onto anita you latch onto some attentionwhoring faggot just because he agrees with your opinions
>>334983773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2UO0-pE9T4
>>334983654
>>334978069
>>334978697
retard
>>334983656
that wasn't the important part of my post. respond to the other portion.
>>334983563
An issue current MMOs face right now is most of them severely lack the polish that defines WoW in it's current state. Vanilla WoW was not polished, but there was already a fanbase from Warcraft and it came out at the perfect time, so players kept on and the game kept updating. Most MMOs come out now and require time and updates before they start feeling good, and by then people have already left. Everyone is so used to how tight and good WoW feels nobody wants to waste their time on something that doesn't feel like that from the get go.
FFXIV is the only other current MMO I have played that feels as polished as WoW, but it bores the fuck out of me.
>>334983853
>MoP and Wrath > Vanilla and TBC
>>334983868
fantastic argument
looks like I win
>>334983887
>Calling 3 people retards
good argument
>>334983853
>MoP and Wrath > Vanilla and TBC
oh am i laffin
>>334983973
Oh it was tom cruise all along. Please tell me again how you aren't samefagging ITT
>>334975810
Nope. Literally Goobergate 2.0. Go away Nostfag.
>>334984047
>shill getting BTFO by the cruise poster
Reminder that people said Rift was the wowkiller during Wotlk
you guys never learn
>>334984063
How does that corporate cock taste, Blizzdrone?
>>334983930
>Modern WOW is polished
The art design of blizzard games are always top notch, but WOW's gameplay is utter garbage now.
And im not talking class/boss mechanics, because if you're zerging through 99% of the game with little challenge or effort, then i'd say the core gameplay is fucked. And you have to grind all to mythic end game to actually have anything that resembles a challenge or reward, and the rewards are less significant then blues from vanilla dungeons.
>>334984171
better than the 10 year old cock
>>334984010
I'm linking you to where your smearing of Kern gets BTFO by people who have actually played Firefall. retard
>>334984047
You got me. I guess having a conversation with people that requires multiple replies back and forth is samefagging.
>>334982514
speak english friendo.
>>334982252
except I watched a great game immediately after he got canned (Firefall) get so casualized everyone who liked it quit playing the game. And then they quit updating it after only a couple months. It has placeholders for like 8 chapters and only one got filled. The new guy came in and changed everything that made it a good game as soon as he was hired. fuck off blizzdrone.
>>334984063
what the heck does gamergate have to do with it?
that is some low effort bait
>>334984265
Firefall was shit to begin with, nobody cares dude
>>334984147
I loved how for a few years WoWkiller was such a powerful marketing term. It was the only way certain MMOs made any money at all. That term really isn't used much anymore, except in irony by shitposters. In fact, if a developer tried to lead with that to push their MMO it would probably backfire today.
Now the marketing strategy is: "We aren't trying to copy WoW's formula, we want to do our own thing." Still not working. I wonder what comes next?
>>334984246
>Defending a literal shitbag who nobody likes
I guess you can relate.
>>334984305
People are literally saying Blizzard is unethical for exercising their legal rights over their intellectual property.
It's literally "ackhtually it's about ethics in illegally emulating a game"
>>334983165
I remember when you were saying "only 10000!".
>>334984470
Yep, "you will never reach 200k!" the shills were spouting.
>>334984305
Sorry but vanilla is over and done with. If you want to play the vanilla experience? Make your own MMO without using any blizzard assets.
>>334984367
>he never played beta.
yup it was as soon as they fired him and the new guy and fucked every single good thing up about it. why do you hate him so much like really what did that guy do to have any consequence on your life for you to even have an opinion about him?
>>334984246
You samefag because you're an avatarcunt and then post anonymously defending yourself. Get your shit straight. The way you post gives it off pretty easily, you'd do a better job if you didn't attach "shill" to every post
>our first sulfuras was going to go to my shaman bro
>played his character every weekend for MC since he was working
>he was deaf so nobody knew it was me, I'd RP as him
>eye never dropped
>he died of cancer in 2014
I think I need to get one just for closure
>>334984470
>>334984537
That's not what I said at all, but it's okay, I know nostalgiafags have literally defective brains.
If Nost had such a MASSIVE community that rivaled retail WoW, how come it's struggling to get signatures? Wouldn't it have all 1 million accounts backing this?
>>334984623
You're probably only one on /v/ who did.
>>334984215
It's not the gameplay I'm referring to, but how it feels. Maybe I can't explain it very well. Just the overall movement of your characters, the interactions, the combat (despite being tabbed combat and getting dumbed down extremely, it still feels tight).
Playing other MMOs just feel sloppy in comparison. Things are too floaty, or heavy, or slippery, just feels weird. The gameplay is shit, but everything feels good. Or maybe I've been playing WoW for too long and I'm just so used to how it feels it makes everything else seem off.
if vanilla comes back i'm going to make a pvp video with a soilwork and sonic syndicate soundtrack
>>334984827
Nah you're right, there's something with other mmos that don't feel right when just walking or autoattacking
The world event system sounds a lot like GW2, was that any fun?
>>334984792
you sure are talking alot of shit about him for no reason then. were on /v/ right? everyone has to have some bullshit argument for no reason to be contrarian enough to fit in I guess.
>extraneous stats that don't make for good gameplay
>honor system was terrible
>class design was garbage
>companion pets and mounts took up bag space
>reagents
>ammo
>Hunters used mana
>3 seconds to get on a mount
>resist gear
>forced raid sizes
>attunements
>"We need 600k runecloth to open a door that'll make servers crash"
>only challenging raid was also the only one that barely 1% of players saw
How the fuck do people think WoW was good at any point in it's lifetime
>>334984780
>nostalgiafags
I don't care about the petition, just calling the shills out on the fact they got BTFO. Stay butt blasted, Rahul.
>>334984872
>my friend still has a 240p pvp video up with fucking dragonforce as the soundtrack
>it's just him in AQ40 hunter gear one shotting people
>>334985007
who cares if the gameplay is garbage, muh community muh chatting
>>334985076
>Dragonforce
>Not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8-sMJZTYf0
>>334977612
This guy is going to be escorted off the premises by security.
>>334985023
>shill
>rahul
yep, it's the thread samefag all right
