Are the paintings portals to places in the Mushroom Kingdom or are they self contained worlds that exist only within the painting?
the 2nd one.
>>334971643
this
They are portals from QPUs.
>>334971486
They're portals to other areas. One of the stages specifically has a spot that leads you right to the moat of Peach's castle.
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>>334971692
Explain this>>334971837
>>334971486
Pretty sure canon is that Bowser created the worlds within the paintings to with the power of the stars and then contained those same stars in the paintings. Not sure why.
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>>334971895
It's Mario. Don't gotta explain shit.QPUs would suffice tho
>>334972105
It's never stated that Bowser created those worlds, only that he trapped the Toads within the castle's paintings which could easily mean that he just threw them through portals.
Hell, some of the stages aren't even accessed through paintings which only gives further credence to the fact that they're portals.
>>334971486
I... don't know actually
I'm now genuinely curious, this riddle needs to be solved
>>334971486
I can explain it to you but first we need to talk about parallel universes.
>>334971486
the lore deepens
holy shit they're obviosuly portals why is /v/ so dumb
>>334972452
In addition to this, certain recurring characters appear in different worlds and I doubt they're just sneaking through the castle and fucking around.
>>334971486
self contained worlds that exist only within the painting
>>334971486
yes
Why were the bomb bombs at war with each other. Was the chain chomp a weapon for war?
There are various places in which it seems like they're actually part of the Mushroom Kingdom.
Dire Dire Docks can bring you right into the moat of Peach's castle.
The Metal Cap area will also bring you into a different part of the moat if you get taken away by the current.
You also fall from the sky if you die in that one area near Rainbow Ride.
>>334972747
As well as there being several friendly NPCs in the worlds. Why would Bowser create a mama & baby penguin or Bob-omb Buddies? Also shit like the Whomp King's grudge over his species' mistreatment wouldn't happen if he was created on the spot.
>>334971486
I feel like a good bit of evidence points toward the former, but there is no definite answer.
Are there more to these worlds? Is it completely indepth, with other places other than the ingame level to go to? Or are these places just floating in some sort of horrifying limbo?
While we're asking this stuff, what was the cosmology of Banjo Kazooie, Tooie, and DK64's levels? They had even less context than Mario
>>334972920
perhaps the black ones are possessed?
>>334971486
Lemme tell you about Parallel universes
ever briefly thought about jumping at a painting hoping for the off chance it's a portal?
Not places into the Mushroom kingdom, but places that do exist, somewhere.
>>334973295
Correct.
>>334973175
In Tooie you're just travelling to the places through the overworld. The entrances are a video game abstraction.
In the first game they're probably portals or something.
>>334971486
How were you supposed to know you had to look up to the ceiling to get the flying cap?
>>334973797
A big fucking beam of light appears after a point and all you can really do is look at it.
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>>334971895
>every time you enter that painting you actually end up in an another universe inside it, and so on
>>334973797
curiosity of a child
>>334973946
After getting 10 stars I think
>>334973076
Bowser has a god complex and is an artist and is master magician. He created those paintings as parallel pocket dimensions for his own satisfaction.
he doesn't actually travel through paintings. the entire game is mario fucked up on mushrooms.
>>334971486
they are self-contained universes.
and wet dry world is our universe (Earth) in the future after water level rises
>>334975216
i bet those houses in the town still have corpses of drowned children inside of them
>>334971486
They are parallel universes. This has pretty much been confirmed.
Remnants of older QPUS which were alligned specifically for certain areas. They're held in the form of a painting so you don't have to build up speed for 12 hours.
>>334973403
>you were actually visiting a Galaxy 2 planet in Mario 64
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>>334976210
why are the skyboxes more interesting than the game itself?
>>334976424
They're uncanny as shit.
Most are the latter but some are like >>334973074 says
>>334972496
Shouldn't it be "If you say we aren't"?
>>334976210
you would never see some of these in modern mario games. Boo stages are comical instead of actually creepy.
The manual says Bowser created them but so much shit has appeared since then they probably retconned it for convenience so they can shove Mr Blizzard into a game for the 50th time.
If they were self-contained, what would happen if you were to damage or destroy the painting?
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>>334973403
Can you guys just imagine this for a second? Real Mushroom Kingdom areas are probably heavily populated with a lot going on. Mario is hitting up all these lonely outskirt areas in 64. Imagine from his perspective, where there's no music. It's just wind and abandoned areas full of enemies
>>334975216
Mario is fine though. There is water in this water. Here's what really happened.
>Aliens invade earth
>maybe the aliens that you see in mario galaxy and mario 3d land (okay but seriously speaking, how cool would it be if they foreshadowed this for awhile and made a 3D mario game where the villains are a bunch of aliens?)
>The people of earth make a device to make it look like they're underwater.
>It's an illusion
>Sunshine portals
>Takes you to other places on Delfino
>Galaxy
>Takes you to other galaxies in the same universe
They're just protals
>>334971486
They exist inside the same universe, they just aren't all in the Mushroom Kingdom.
Remember that you go to Thwomp's Fortress in Mario Galaxy 2. Some of these worlds might not even be on the same planet.
>>334976762
for the most part you are right, except this ghost
>>334976838
I have the original manual right here and it just says that he trapped the power starts and the toads in the painting worlds. There's nothing said about him creating them.
>>334976896
How? If you try to use a weapon on it then it will just go through to the other world.
>>334979339
*stars
Stupid phone.
>>334979364
Take the frame off the wall and throw it? Rip it? Drop into the Fire Sea?
>>334979586
Consider in Mario Sunshine that paint becomes portals and can absorb solid objects.
Likely whatever's on the canvas or wherever the canvas is will remain the portal. Hence why there are some "paintings" that are just a giant pile of amorphous fluid(one of which is suspended in air), and some are just in solid colored walls.
>>334971837
Actually, two areas lead to outside Peach's castle; the Metal Cap Switch area and the Clouds & Cannons area.
>>334979927
Interesting. That's quite a conundrum. I guess we could take it into the real world and ask how do you destroy a wormhole or a black hole?
>>334980146
Being sucked into the Hatch in Dire Dire Docks also sends you to Peach's Moat...somehow
>>334980387
Dire Dire Docks is probably an underground lake underneath the castle. Which is weird because The Fire Sea is also directly under the castle.
>>334976985
You can turn the music off with a gameshark if you wanna try that out.
>>334980554
Fire sea is probably miles below Dire Dire Docks.
>>334971486
Wait, you can enter the paintings?
What the fuck
The canon is that Bowser uses his magic to turn the paintings into worlds
>>334971486
i always thought that level painting looked like a koopa face
>>334972630
>I can explain it to you but first we need to talk about parallel universes.
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Maybe the paintings are of real places but they've just been replicated in the painting. Which is why they are just a single place randomly floating in the middle of nowhere.
>>334980907
heh
