>katana
>breaks easily
looks like 1,000 folds isn't so tuff
>>334966550
The sharper a blade is, the more fragile it is. It makes sense.
>Use it the entire game
>Bonfires restore the durability
>Not once did it ever come close to being broken
Wew
>>334966626
what's the point of the repair feature from the blacksmith if your shit never breaks?
you won't ever see that in western swords
katana fags btfo
>not carrying around one repair powder just in case of the worst
>>334966550
folding is bullshit
only thing is does is remove impurities from all the pounding. you can probably get away with 3-4 folds though
Were should I go after beating the diacones of the cathedral of the deep? I explored everything in there and I'm stuck.
Some guy told me to go to the tower of Farron, but I don't know what the fuck is that.
>>334966620
yeah but a katana isn't actually that sharp. every middle age sword beats the katana
>>334968239
I folded and pounded you're father last night and his butthole is even more impure now.
>>334968383
Farron Keep, it's below Road of Sacrifices. You get to Road of Sacrifices from the Undead Settlement
>>334966550
>having durability problems in DS3
Are you a shitter?
>>334966626
OP BTFO
What's the point of having a sharp blade if it's brittle?
japan's iron ore was so shitty that they had to fold it many times to make usable sword
so shitty sword in general btfo weebs?
>>334968514
In sharpness? No.
In sturdiness, Wieght, and usefulness against steel armors? Yes.
Medieval swords weren't for slashing, they were for stabbing and blocking. Apples and oranges, bruh.
>>334969123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVCaJdYZmCU
cuts through the tomato as good as the katana. weebs btfo
>>334968239
Japan had shit-tier gutter ore and needed all the folding. I guess at some point it became worthless showmanship and a selling point.
>>334969245
>two swords made 500 years after either kind would have been in use
meaningless
>>334969420
are you retarded, both the swords come from around the same time
>>334968913
it cuts better
until it doesn't
>>334969608
but it doesnt cut better, weebs are just fucking retarded
>>334966860
You never played DaS2, did you?
>>334966550
its not breaking its just folding for the 1001th time
i mean i cant fold a paperclip more than 5 times without it breaking so its still pretty impressive right?
The cutting edge of the katana is hardened.
The backside is softer allowing flexibility.
The hardening of the blade allows it to be more sharp than any floppy europoor "sword"
>>334969691
>a sharper blade doesn't cut better
>>334966860
No death or no bonfire runs.
>>334969602
Those swords were manufactured recently.
You can not use that dumb video to compare how actual period swords would have held up in the time of their use.
>>334966550
POST IT
>>334970005
every time
>>334966550
It clearly says why in the description.
>>334969872
see this >>334969245
>>334970005
weebs BTFO
Never had something come close to breaking. Was just das2 bug.
>>334970207
long island????
What is it about katanas that triggers /v/ so badly?
>>334969905
>no bonfire runs
>DaS3
Nigga
>>334970265
It doesn't prove anything.
You can make a piece of steel into whatever shape you want, with whatever kind of steel you want, of whatever quality you want.
>>334969245
Im not arguing a long sword from europe would beat a katana, but Katana's are sharper. You can have two sharp objects easily cut a tomato, now do the pig test and see how many bodies it can cut with one swing.
>>334969924
Both would have been weaker.
Even then, one hit on the side from the longsword and the katana is over.
>>334970207
Man, every time I see someone like that I get sad. The Souls games are so good, and I enjoy them so much, and while I get that it's not for everyone, I remember there was a time when I thought it wasn't a game for me either.
>Spend 40 minutes in a fight club killing people back to back undefeated for the entire time
>My crossbow broke before my sword didn't even get close to
Topkek
>>334970490
Weebs like to think that they are cool.
>>334970620
>Even then, one hit on the side from the longsword and the katana is over.
oh please
that dumb gif has one sword held hard in a vise, with a guy whacking it with the other as hard as he can.
if two people hit their swords against eachother, they would absorb more impact than their swords.
>>334970617
i could look up and post some coldsteel videos but i am too lazy, european middle age swords beat the katana there every time, with every test they have
>>334970883
He's doing the same shit with an european sword in the same video and it cuts through almost clean.
>>334970751
They are though.
>>334970913
>coldsteel
their swords are infamously historically inaccurate
>>334970751
But why does that cause such intense personal anguish for you and other people like you?
The 1000 folds is actually because Japanese steel is very shitty.
There's a myth going on about how Japanese swords are durable but they're really not. It's light and sharp and that's about it.
>>334966550
I get that it has low durability, but i have never gotten it down past half way even when i explored the whole farron area and killed every enemy. It just wont break for me
>sword
>causes bleed
>>334971023
>>334970998
which proves that he got a katana with really soft steel, probably deliberately, because he's a german, and is biased towards favoring a sword that was used in his history.
>>334969123
Technically, medieval straight swords were for cutting and chopping first, thrusting second (many of the long swords make poor thrusting weapons).
Chopping fell out of favor when armor went the way of the dodo, hence you see sabers coming into use in Europe as gunz made armor too cumbersome.
All swords can be as sharp as one another.
Katana blades are good for cutting and thrusting. They're not that good at chopping.
>>334971037
Some people just don't like disinformation. And there is a lot of it with weebs and their katanas
>>334971037
I like to correct people when they are wrong.
>>334971248
Japanese steel is shit.
>>334970913
>coldsteel
Lol
I'm not saying the Katana wouldn't lose to a euro sword overall. Im saying the Katana is sharper, thats it. But sharpness doesn't mean shit against plate armor the euros had. Samurai vs Knight, a Knight would win.
But the Katana is the sharper sword.
>>334971234
I don't know what this is supposed to mean. I used to be into sword shit, and amongst both european sword fans and japanese sword fans, it was understood that cold steel stuff was not remotely authentic.
>>334971248
Technically, softer steel is better for swords, as they bend rather than shatter.
It's also silly to ever hit another sword or armor with a katana; they aren't made for that type of impact, unlike broader European [and Chinese] swords.
>>334968514
Medieval swords weren't particularly sharp in some periods since a duller blade is more effective as a blunt attack against armor.
Katana's were shitty steel, through and through.
Regardless of which type of sword is stronger or more practical in combat, katanas are OBJECTIVELY cooler than western swords.
Both in game and IRL.
>>334968720
If he found Cathedral of the deep, pretty sure he knows where Road of Sacrifices is.
>>334971248
but anon, japanese steel is softer, that is why they had to bend that shit so many times
>>334971354
Neither of those swords used in that video were made with actual period methods and materials, so that has no bearing on the accuracy of the results of that video.
Also, poor quality steel was folded to increase strength, as has been mentioned. That's not just a japanese thing either, early medieval steel swords were folded in a similar way. Higher quality steel basically negated the need to fold it, but it wasn't necessarily that much stronger.
>>334971594
yes i agree, i have a collection of 120 katanas, all of them folded over a thousand times
are curved swords shit or why does everyone always only talk about katana vs longsword
>it's a "HEMA buttboys circlejerk about how much they hate katanas" thread
>it's a "/tg/ crossboarders play deadliest warrior with two societies that lived on opposite sides of the world and never once met" thread
>it's a "soulsfags repeat information literally everyone on this website has heard a dozen times already" thread
Please stop.
>>334970661
This. I thought Bloodborne was shit, then I gave it another chance. Loved it.
>>334968687
GG fag you got poop on your dick.
>>334971820
>that one faggot that thinks he is smarter than everyone else
how does it feel to be you? kys
>>334971614
I know, I only realized that after posting so whatever
>>334971594
>cooler
That's like you opinion, man.
Long cross hilted straight swords look the coolest to me.
>>334971594
>cooler
More beautiful perhaps, but cool?
>>334971813
Curved swords only work against peasants in rags.
A falchion is a good sword, but Longsword is objectively the most efficient and practical in terms of versatility and killing power.
Katanas are curved because weebs prefere curved nigger cock. They say it feels better up their ass.
>>334969924
Why not? if made with the proper materials and technique?
>>334968514
They were sharp anon, they just werent very hard.
>>334972148
>>334971731
>but it wasn't necessarily that much stronger.
They were blades used for war, thus it was needed for your sword to not to break in the middle of the battle.
You could break a katana with your hands.
Any jokes aside, the Katana was a well-designed product of the circumstances of Japan at the time of its creation
>Sharp as shit
>Thin so it doesn't use much steel
>Folded so the low steel quality is compensated for
Head to head, it loses to plate armor and the longsword because it turns out that cutting power means little against steel armor and plate outside of anime magic. That aside, it doesn't really matter if you're not retarded, because the katana is an elegant solution unto itself of resource scarcity.
>>334972314
This
The entire art of the katana was to quickly cut the opponent in one attack, it relied on both fighters to follow a strict code of honor.
Ofcourse nobody else does this so whenever the Samurai got into a fight with anything that wasn't Japanese they got their asses handed to them.
>>334972078
European swords are more beautiful as well.
>>334971820
Senpai desu, im washed for you
>>334972148
To be fair, curved and thinnish blades are good for cutting, and they tend to be nice and light to allow for long drawn out strokes (ha ha).
They suck for chopping, though, which is better if everyone is wearing armor and you have to chop for the weak spots.
Can you imagine how easy it would be to troll a /blacksmith/ board if YellowMoot ever made one?
>>334966860
Shit like the Washing Pole can break.
>>334972612
>>>/hm/
such a board already exists
>muh superior chink swords
No one actually believes this meme right?
>>334972078
>Dat claymore, dat hand-and-a-half longsword
UNF my boyuterus.
>>334972612
Just imagine posting the Pirate vs. Knight episode of Deadliest Warrior.
Instant gold.
>>334972708
Hand and a halfs are arguably the nicest looking swords ever, really
>>334972840
Anon your taste isgreat.
>>334970207
>>334970661
>loan best friend DeS and DkS1 since he seems very interested in the series (other friends and I would discuss them regularly)
>week goes by
>returns both of them to me
>"It was like an empty skyrim. Both of them. Combat was really weird too."
>goes back to playing vanilla skyrim on console for hours upon hours
>he suddenly wants to try New Vegas
>friend loans him his PS3 copy
>it gets returned a week later to him
>same "I didn't like it. Not as good as Skyrim."
I just...don't understand.
>>334972503
That shit must be like 150/150 physical/lightning with D and C scaling.
>>334973214
Fuck off souls autist
>>334973514
read the op again, more carefully this time.
>>334972976
They look just...right
One handers look too short in the hilt (not a fault of their practical use; they're made to chop whilst wearing armor)
Claymores and the big German stuff look obnoxiously big (again, they have their practical use)
Whereas hand and a halfs have a nice long blade with a hilt and guard that is in proportion
I've played around with most swords, and hand and a halfs feel like the most versatile too in regards to practical use
>>334966550
>anything breaking easily
>Dark Souls 3
Literally no one has ever broken their weapon in this game.
>surprised katanas break easily
japanese steel was shit, that's why it was folded so many times
>>334973514
>not allowed to talk about dark souls in a dark souls thread
>>334973214
Holy damage, actually.
>>334973027
do not associate with skyrim players. they are literally subhuman.
>>334973514
What the fuck are you even doing in this thread, retard?
>>334973572
>>334973709
>>334973796
Thanks for the (You)s niggers
>>334973027
Get a new best friend.
Nah, just accept his shit taste.
>>334973897
>t-thanks for replying h-heh
are you ok, dude?
>>334973897
You're welcome. Here, I'll even give you another.
>>334973897
"I-I was only pretending to be retarded" faggots are the worst
>>334973738
I don't think that sword saw the battlefield once.
>>334968383
When you're going through those swamps before the Crystal Sage, there's another island guarded by two exiles, these guys in some big armor. There's a ladder behind them that'll take you to Farron Keep.
>>334974648
Wow, what would lead you to believe that?
>>334966626
Was this some kind of meta commentary by From on western games vs eastern games?
>>334973626
Actually I had the katana break on me once. Not completely but I got it to the point where my stats were reduced
>>334966626
We need the Dark Souls 2 durability back, it was the only game where shit broke and you needed back up weapons.
Are there katanas in BB? IF so I might have to pick up a PS4. If not, no sale.
>>334974764
I swear I am not an autist but is this a legit question?
>>334975436
No it isnt.
Of course it didnt see the battlefield, ornate shit like that isnt meant for battlefield.
>>334975241
There is one.
>When the intricate, rippled engraving that spans the Chikage's blade is imbrued with blood, the sword sings in scarlet hues. However, the rite eats away at the wielder's very essence.
>>334968514
Almost no middle age sword was sharp, they were made for battering armor and breaking bones. Katanas were pretty much the sharpest swords outside of a few things in the middle east rather than the middle ages.
>>334975745
Edgy
>>334975783
mind posting a source for that?
My Uchi is at +8 where do I get Chunks?
>>334966550
i guess your science isnt up to par
science lies
> www.reddit.com/r/gangstalkingmkultra/comments/4fb98a/science_lies_relevant_to_mind_control/
nwo bloodline / state of the world 2016 / newspapers wont touch this data
> imgur.com/a/gr8iy
historical cases about reptilians
> archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/17571733/
science using human sacrifice / great filter theory
> medium.com/@bananaguy80/the-great-filter-theory-are-we-a-filter-f73a2f1e933f#.q7v891d91
matrix beds
> reddit.com/comments/3zacpy/
> video youtube.com/watch?v=aoQITEatw8I
mercury vaxx known toxic since 500bc
> reddit.com/comments/3za5e7/
worms_the_size_of_10000_galaxies
> reddit.com/comments/3zbtkb/
psychiatry is a medical fraud
> reddit.com/comments/4a4y1d/
Can you even click a link about aliens or would it alter your lifes timeline to shit? are they already in everybodys homes (coil-radio-mattress)?
>why lose to a species of germ that doesn't even wear pants?
>>334972465
>Ofcourse nobody else does this so whenever the Samurai got into a fight with anything that wasn't Japanese they got their asses handed to them.
Confirmed for ignorant, Japanese fucked up Coreans and Chinese pretty good when they decided to invade Corea, they got beaten at sea but fucked them up on land especially in infantry battles.
>>334976136
The dragon place has a bunch.
>>334976174
Which ashes give titanites?
>>334975745
Sweet, thanks. Sounds badass.
>help a bunch of people for Champion Gundyr
>but nobody puts their own signs down
Fuck everyone else.
>>334976387
>China.
>Corea.
Wew lad.
>>334966550
How come if a weapon is "almost broken" it will just auto repair at the bonfire? What is the fucking point of the repair if so? The weapon loses damage so there's no point to keep fighting with it at that point.
Katanas are made inflexible which is why they're more likely to snap than bend. There is no reason why a flexible sword would be duller than a Katana.
Also folding isn't like you think it is. They take a bunch of different pieces of metal and stack them on top of each other (let's say 3) and then heat it until it's red and cut it in half and fold it (so now you have 6 layers/folds) over and over. It isn't actually that labor intensive to fold something 1000 times if you started with something like 7 layers.
>>334976860
I'm surprised I managed to beat him on my first try. Rolled around like crazy waiting for openings but his kick/tackle attacks kept fucking me up.
The last 20% of his health were super tense. Felt tough but fair.
>>334976860
you cant see signs if yours is placed
That’s it. I’m sick of all this “Masterwork Bastard Sword” bullshit that’s going on in the DaS3 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I’m talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that’s about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I’m pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That’s right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the daS 3 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:
(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork
(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork
Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don’t you think?
tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in DaS 3, see my new stat block.
>>334977317
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20
Why don't nips put actually useful hand guards on their weapons, especially so if it's a dueling weapon
>>334977317
I was waiting for this, thank you anon!
>>334977317
How did you manage to fuck up the formatting on a copy and paste?
I think the sword Aragorn has in the LOTR movies is really cool.
>>334980783
I think you are really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
Skip to 1:33. Katanas have always been awful weapons.
I want the darkwraith set, do I really just have to farm two enemies outside the abyss watchers fight club?
>>334971421
It means he wants to call you out but he doesn't actually have an argument, so now he's just going to spew memes
How should I infuse my Astora Straight Sword? Mostly STR.
Guess what you stupid fucks, they made small, sturdy swords with really sharp, easily nicked edges because Japan has NO real resources at a point and every bit of steel matters.
All swords are cool, you're all huge nerds.
>>334977074
>inflexible
Confirmed for knowing shit all. There's a flexible core and a softer, sharper outside.
>>334971731
>>334972314
You just fold to get rid of imperfections.
They used every bit of ore they could because of the limited resources of an island nation.
I'm level 39 in the Profane Capital on my second character because I want Soul Spear. Am I doing this right?
>>334975615
its probably very valuable and it couldve probably net you 3 or 4 swords at the time if you traded it away
>>334986546
it was literally the sword of an emperor
MFW I hear about the Dark Sword
>>334971820
What's it like being single?
ITT: Weebs and eurocucks who don't know what they're talking about.
Is the Katana shit? As a weapon in terms of performance? Absolutely. That's not up to debate, due to Japan's lack of iron resources, the blades would have a soft edge and a hard edge. European, Middle Eastern, Central Asian (and maybe Chinese) swords would be hard edge. Places in Europe had a lot of iron.
With that said, the Japanese sword is a well crafted weapon and it's beautiful. But it's not a good tool.
>>334975615
>>334975436
It probably did, actually.
Its not like rulers actually fight in battles they attend, so they bring their fancy shit to chill in the back with the generals.
champion coming here
>>334990642
You are an embarrassment
>>334970661
I never played any souls game because my computer is too shit. Which is a shame because the architecture stuff is gorgeous, the mobs very imaginatively designed and the story is also great. Oh well.
>>334993328
it's a shame I am bad at the game because if I wasn't I would enjoy it more
