HAHAHA
DRUIDS BTFO
>>334949290
is this shit for real?
>>334949690
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20097355/keeping-hearthstone-fresh-4-20-2016
Thank god for this one
>>334949505
Wow that nerf kills the card
>>334949784
>>334949864
>>334949951
>>334950059
There goes my full gold face hunter
Is the patch already out? or when is the release date?
>>334949864
>cast this
>now enemy have the mana to cast a counter for this next turn
>gets destroyed even before it can do shit
what's the fucking point?
>>334950559
Guess it's time for Wolfrider again
All these nerfs are ridiculously OP and only against aggro decks wtf
>>334950828
Yeah those changes to ancient of lore and molten giant absolutely neutered my aggro deck
>>334949575
Making rouge even worse, when rouge is already bad
Why?
>that feel when haven't spent a literal cent on Hearthstone
>>334951035
>autism the fucking post
>>334951110
>tfw sold my beta key
>hearthstone paid me money to play
I don't get heartstone at all. I've always sucked at it and still suck at heartstone
>>334949290
>nerfs announced
WHERE
HERE
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RE
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>>334949290
Force wasn't the problem, though, Savage Roar was. Old Force without Roar is a fair card, it's 6 damage for 6 mana mostly divided up how you want.
>>334951362
Everywhere, fucking google it.
>>334951286
There's a lot of luck to it, Mara. Not to mention that everyone can just buy an OP as fuck deck, but then again in which card game can't you do that?
>>334950332
>Still a reliable kill on any 7+ attack minion and a decent body
>Card is dead lol
Nigga no
This guy is going to devastate Old Gods.
>>334950559
>what's the fucking point?
same as when they castrated warsong commander.
blizzard cant into balance, so when they dont like a card they just make it unplayably bad.
blizzard "balance" at work. They just want you to play flavor of the season as usual
>>334951362
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20097355/keeping-hearthstone-fresh-4-20-2016
>>334951413
6 mana for 3 packets of 2 damage, with charge
That's insane value
>>334951638
I don't know. In that case they sort of accidentally did what they were aiming for. I could still pull off Grim Patron bullshit, just not as broken as it was before. They still went overboard though.
>>334949864
>completely destroying the tradeoff of being able to attack immediately in exchange for giving the opponent mana ramp
>BGH doesn't have any massive changes to it's effects, it only costs 2 more
What the fuck is going on?
>>334949784
This is retarded
For 1 more mana, Spellbreaker gains a +2/2 body.
Ridiculous value now.
>>334949505
>>334949951
Zero change to these.
BGH will still be played.
It's the same cost as Assassinate and comes with a good body.
It always trades better per cost.
>all these f2p deck/face cancer cards getting nerfs in favour of my armor warrior deck filled with legendaries
its good to be rich :^)
>>334951091
I think it is for the sake of new weapons for Rogue. Still, it doesn't make sense to nerf it in such a way. It's Warsong Commander all over again.
>>334952505
Or Buzzard.
RIP Hunter card draw
>>334952417
or lucky
>>334949290
Theoretically decent in token druid, probably not going to be played.
>>334949334
Wrong direction with the nerfs. Should have nerfed it to a 4/5. Now it's worse/on par with azure drake.
>>334949407
Have to see how valuable silence is post patch, but ironforge rifleman is garbage and this deals 1 damage more for 1 mana.
>>334949505
Still viable but now a tech card. no longer auto-include
>>334949575
Unless they introduce a lot of new rogue weapons this is pretty shit
>>334949650
whatever
>>334949784
they're costing silence at 1.5/2 mana now. why.
>>334949864
absolute shit
>>334949951
probably will see more flame jugglers
>>334950059
a pretty big nerf. might be borderline unplayable
>>334950151
virtually all classes are capable of doing 5 burst damage. should've made the cost 22-23
>>334950151
dat Holy Wrath buff doe
>>334949864
Three mana 3/4 is pretty much baseline, right?
How the fuck is +1 attack worth giving your opponent a mana crystal?
This is yet more proof that Blizzard has no idea how to balance with any sort of delicacy.
>>334949864
This is the only one that they completely fucked up(I'm willing to hold judgment on Blade Flurry until I see all the new Rogue cards). Absolutely unplayable, should've been a 4/5 or even a 5/5.
>>334953975
Well you can trade into a 3/4 with a 4/4 and survive with 1 health over, which requires some resources from your opponent to deal with it.
You can also kill 5/4s and 6/4s though Im not sure how popular those are going to be
>>334954406
Considering how many 4/5s there are at 4, it just seems overall retarded to ever play
>>334953403
Ancient is better than azure Drake with healbot leaving. The versatility is still good. It's still a 5/5 body with 2 good effects to choose from. I'd still play it
BGH is still neutral hard removal for most end game cards, still always trades up. It's still better than polymorph, and assassinate. Hex, equality, Hunter's mark, ping + execute are better removal, but bgh is probably still included in most decks.
>>334954406
Except your 3-cost has to deal with their 4-cost because you gave them an extra mana crystal.
>>334954663
That's only if you're first player.
If you're second, your 3 is going up against a 5 now
Changes look reasonable to me.
The point of the update was removing obviously OP cards that literally everyone runs in their decks and I think that's a good first step.
>no Mr.Boom change
Just fuck my game up senpai
>>334955153
They're introducing Standard, like Magic.
So he's totally out of rotation unless you play retard mode
>>334955153
They are only nerfs from the Basic set.
>rogue main
>mfw blade flurry
>>334951091
>rouge
>>334954406
Arcane golem is a dead card now, the only time giving your opponent a mana crystal was worth it is if you were killing them that turn. All the decks that used golem will shift to wolf rider, reckless rocketeer, or leeroy
I got a golden force for reaching 5 last season.Do i get 1600 dust?
>>334953825
>"dat ____ doe"
Fucking kill yourself you annoying little shit.
>>334955363
>maining in hs
>>334955363
Mil rogue my buddy mill rogue
You have 5 seconds to state why freeze mage won't be unbeatanle in the standard meta
>>334955493
Nah, it was worth playing if you were gonna kill them in 1 or 2 turns too. But either way, now there's no reason to play it over Spider Tank or that C'thun cultist that's a 3/4.
>>334955514
Eh, new FoN isn't unplayable.
>>334954623
Most current druid decks don't run healbot since they tend to do okay vs aggro and run taunts. It seems that blizz is nerfing aggro and not printing a lot of them in WotOG and while Lore is still a decent card, druid has gone back to suffering from a lack of card draw.
BGH will stay in Druid and Warrior while priest will probably back to running SW:D or double entomb.
>>334955363
Deathrattle Control Rogue is looking decent.
I really wish they'd have moved a select few "notable" cards to Standard from Naxx and GvG, like Fiegn Death for Hunter and Oil for Rogue.
Nothing big like Dr. Boom, cause that shit needs to get out, though.
>>334955624
Mad Scientist and Healbot are out.
>>334955726
Loatheb reprint when?
>>334955624
>No Sludge
>No Free Secrets
>No Healbot
Freeze lost 2 of its stalling mechanics and now has to manually play every secret, which means more draw they have to slog through and less Mana to spend on other shit.
>>334949290
>all these changes
Hearthstone confirmed dead?
is it worth to buy some classic cards just for that sweet "free" dust ?
>>334949505
>mfw I have a gold BGH to DE for 800
fuck yes
>>334955520
you seem quite perturbed
>no change to bgh, it's still a good card.
>no change to owl, it's still a good card
>no change to knife juggler, it's still a good card
>no change to leper gnome, it's still a good card
why even bother?
>>334949290
youtube.com/watch?v=1awYz4U0BHQ
skip to 10:20
>>334956237
Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? Not all nerfs have to make it unusable.
>>334956112
what
if you craft them, you will just get your dust back
if you buy classic packs you wont get those cards
>>334954090
did you really think they were able at one point? Its blizzard they cant do shit balance since like 6 years
>Nerf old staple cards
>Release new sets with upgraded counterparts of old cards
>Just buy boosters and get the new cards you retards :^)
Classic business strategy. Force people to spend money to get on with the times.
First it was with them copying the MtG standard rotation.
Now they want to jew people even more to make old good cards obsolete.
>remove ramp
>dont give druids any new meme deck like priests got dragons or palading with murlocs
>>334956458
yeah its just so plain obvious
>>334956581
Blizzard really wants to make Beast Druid a thing but its pretty shitty with the current cards
I don't even know how this game will work now without such easy silence / removal.
Will it be better or worse?
>>334949290
The bulk of these are still auto-include, the rest are mostly dead in the water.
>>334956864
ask kripperino
>>334955261
they should change him anyway.
Honestly, these nerfs right now are pissing me off immensly, because it shows that Blizzard can fix all problems of the game with just one big patch, but yet they are sticking with the rotation crap
This is just lazy game design.
They tried to slow down the meta when they introduced the grand tournament. They gave very big value cards but failed to provide tools against the already established super aggresive meta.
Now they are just going
>fuck it, we just nerf everything into slow and force you to play like that now
>>334957571
THIS PRETTY MUCH! I FUCKING HATE HOW BLIZZARD IS JUST SO SHIT AT NERFING OR CHANGING THINGS.
as a handlock main, these changes aren't going to change much about my deck
i do run owls, molten giants, 1 BGH. i won't be removing any of them, but i may replace owls with spellbreakers
>expect cool effect changes, or twists and whatnot
>everything is just mana / health-atk changes
wew lad, i don't know why they pumped these changes so much and they seem like your average nerfs
>>334958789
every single one of these is better than the warsong nerf though
>>334958995
Is there anyone out there that actually thinks that was a "ok" nerf? there is a neutral card that does the same but it's for all minions, not even the charge guys
>>334955576
Not him, but when you lack mandatory cards for other classes, you main the ones you have them for.
who else
>reinstalling
I quit this game but man this is looking good
>>334956458
yup. Good thing I've stopped playing
only force of nature and arcane golem are unusable now.
blade flurry, master of disguise, leper gnome, knife juggler and keeper were all pretty strong and deserved the nerf. i may have made the keeper a 1/4 instead of a 2/2 though
all that free dust!
>>334959334
hearthstone is garbage and this changes nothing
>All this shit and they still didn't fix BGH
You could make it a Legendary and cost 7 mana and people would still use it, the effect is just too ridiculous and needs to flat out be changed.
Blizzard is so shit at balancing, glad I stopped playing this garbage game.
>>334949784
HAHAHAHA
The adventures are really the only thing I give a shit about.
>Juggler
>Hunter's Mark
>BGH
Pretty much still fine
>Lore
>Keeper
>Leper
>Ironbeak
>Molten Giant
Not very good compared to other cards. May see rare play
>Arcane Golem
Absolutely unplayable
>Blade Flurry
This kills the class.
That nerf to ancient of lore is retarded. Azure drake is 4/4 draw a card and spell damage. Lore is + 1/1 for 2 extra mana.
Grove was never really that OP and didn't need a nerf either. The combo nerf would've been adequate.
why bother with the owl, you can just use spellbreakers instead. they fucked up
>>334960805
beast tribal, and the 1 mana difference may save your life
>mfw with these nerfs, i can finally craft those legendaries i wanted
>>334960805
owl is cheaper, you save two mana, two mana you can use to do more shit like develop the board or throw shit at his face
![[Laughing Intensifies].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CL3Erqo.jpg "[Laughing Intensifies].jpg")
>Arcane Golem went from niche to useless
HE'S LAUGHING HIS SICK FUCKING ASS OFF. HE'S A TIGHT-ASS. HE'S A SADISSSSSSSSSSST!
HE'S AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD. WORSHIP THAT!? NEVER!
As an arena payer this literally changes nothing. Not like I ever get fucken epics when i play Druid anyway.
>>334960770
You have the choice of +5 life which is worth something, but I really think they should've buffed the heal so it's at least worth a choice outside of absolute desperation hour.
>>334960805
>>334960864
I would've liked to at least see it become a 2/2 or something. You're losing a full 2 mana worth of stats just for the premium of saving 1 mana (and a Beast for Hunters/Druids).
>>334953403
>1 mana for free 2 dmg
it should have been a 1/1 from the start
>>334961174
Owl now costs 3 mana, so you will only be saving 1 mana.
For one more mana you get a 4/3 instead of a 2/1 with the same effect.
Or if Druid you get a 2/2 with Silence for 4 mana, which is effectively worse than Spellbreaker unless you are looking to use the 2 damage instead, which just makes it a really shitty ineffective Fire Elemental for it's cost.
So what is a good heartstone bot? I'd love to grind this game and then just sell the account to some chucklefuck.
>>334955604
Mill rogue is gonna be way worse without Gang up and Deathlord though
>Just Thistle Tea your coldlight!
>>334962052
>playing inconsistent gimmick decks
>>334962052
Gang up was brm you mong
Kek miracle rogue is dead, oil rogue is dead. All thats left is mill.
>>334962264
Tempo could be back without Deathlord, Belcher, etc., but Old Gods looks so slow.
>>334962052
can't wait for the inevitable video of someone Thistle Teaing a Burrowing Mine
>>334956458
Why are you people even whining about jewing?
Just use a fucking bot like everyone should. Free 140-200gold every day.
>>334962245
>Playing the only real fun deck in the game
>>334962264
My bad, there might still be hope
>>334962675
it was really 98% loss rate?
it was normally 50/50 for me
>>334962436
Tempo Rogue's shell is literally the same as Oil without Oil.
Rogue's next hope are C'thun or some Tempo Rogue with normal minion finishers enhanced by Shadowstep/Shadowcaster.
>>334951110
TFW I spend 400 euro on it.
TFW making 7k euro per month
TFW Got apartment as gift from parents
TFW I have too much money and end up buying games for people on friends list.
>>334963847
buy me stuff
>>334949505
>>334949505
THANK YOU BASED GOD
>>334950151
shouldnt frost giant be better now over molten?
>>334964132
No problem bro.
>>334949784
>this costs 1 mana more
>>334964770
>For 1 more mana you get +2/2
When you consider how Blizzard overvalues the beast tag it actually isn't as irrational as it first appears
>>334962052
There will be a niche for Control Rogue/Control C'Thun Rogue.
>If you make it turn 10
>That new Legendary into Shadowcaster into another copy of that Legendary
>Yields 2 Poisons now, 2 later
>>334961308
Yup, I'm sure as hell I'll need that 5 life with all these nerfs to aggro
>>334961308
Honestly, Ancient of Lore is basically worthless now.
Even Tournament Medic has a better heal, since it provides real presence and takes forever to kill.
Glad I dropped this game. Solforge, Duelyst, faeria are all better.
>>334965743
You're in luck, Kripp is streaming some hot, fresh ccg garbage for you to latch onto.
>>334956169
1600 actually, Golden Epics cost 1600 to craft.
